Notice of merged State Journal subscribers
The Huronite and the State Journal have merged and the combined paper will be sent to former State Journal patrons on the list until further notice. The plan is to avoid doubling copies and to deliver only one copy per subscriber, with options to adjust by contacting the office or sending a letter. Suanyvon & Lonestarr.
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Huronite
State Journal
John Stattmann
Mary Stattmann
Augustus L. Belknap
Register of Deeds
Beadle County
Territory of Dakota
Huron
South Dakota
Court House
County of Beadle
South Dakotas
Augustus L. Be.Knapp
Joan L. Priz
Weather notes warn of more rain and wet spells ahead
A brief weather update mentions incoming rain and periods of wet conditions. It also notes varied forecasts and advises preparedness while casually referencing local names and a Playful phrase about Li as condensed lye.
Vermillion Fire Damages Property as Alcoholic Allegation Emerges
A fire caused about 4500 dollars in losses at Vermillion on the morning of the 27th. Authorities report no further details on causes or casualties.
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Vermillion
Gridiron Grumbles and Grippe Mentioned in Confusing Note
A terse, fragmentary line references Governor McKinley catching grippe in the south, while implying a misstatement about Li. The snippet hints at political chatter or misreporting but offers no clear event, date, or source context.
Drouth and Shortcrops Co Liquidates in Wet Times
The firm Drouth, Shortcrops & Co. has entered liquidation amid heavy rain. The scene is damp and quiet with frogs audible while residents lament the lack of an umbrella after Saturday's Huronite report.
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Drouth, Shortcrops & Co
Local Figure Skews State Politics This Season
A terse report notes Pratt avoids New York GOP paths this season while South Dakota prospects are linked to broader wealth gains. The piece hints at political shifts and regional economic stakes without detailing specific actions or dates.
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Boss Pratt
New York
Dakota County, Minnesota the wettest county in the state
Minnesota highlights Dakota County as the wettest in the state based on rainfall totals. Local weather data indicates higher precipitation compared with neighboring counties.
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Minnesota
McKinley Noted in Weather and Politics Rumors
The item mentions fear fading as McKinley did not say a quote. It also notes ex President Harrison is well enough to resume his work as attorney. A snow event is reported with a foot at Pierre Sunday night, highlighting heavy snowfall in the region.
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McKinley
Harrison
Pierre
Seed Time Harvest Returns Highlight Local Cycle
Seed time and harvest follow a regular annual pattern in this region, signaling dependable agricultural rhythms and seasonal work for farmers and communities alike. The note underscores the consistency of planting and reaping as a long standing local routine.
Madh corn to be planted this year in Clark county
Authority Pilot Review notes plans to plant Madh corn in Clark county this season signaling agricultural activity and local planning. The brief confirms local governance oversight and county involvement in crop deployment.
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Clark County
Reverend T M Shanafelt Plans Sunday Visit
Reverend T. M. Shanafelt will spend Sunday April 7 with Baptist friends of Clark as part of his schedule.
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T. M. Shanafelt
Baptist Friends of Clark
Pinkertons Capture Innocent Man Then Head South
Pinkertons captured an innocent man and were compelled to depart for Mexico, according to the report. The incident reflects tensions in law enforcement and cross border travel during the period.
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Pinkerton’s
Mexico
Taylor Refusal Marks Huronite Return In Scamp Note
Taylor returns a Huronite marked Refused. The act marks a notable dispute or refusal by a person named Taylor, described in terse terms as a scamp, implying contempt or unsavory behavior. The line suggests an official or personal exchange involving a labeled item and its return.
Harvest Weather Aweigh: Rain Could Save This Year
The brief notes that lack of heavy rain during harvest may keep the country on track for a decent year. It emphasizes rain risk but suggests favorable conditions could avert trouble.
Tights and Morality Entangle In Perplexing View
A quip notes that the main moral clash with tights lies in their signaling of looseness. The remark wryly challenges social norms by linking apparel to virtue and restraint.
Man Harasses Phoebe Cousins Amid Grief
A man follows Phoebe Cousins as she mourns, ignoring her pleas for space. Neighbors report repeated confrontations near her home, raising concerns about her safety and emotional well being. Local authorities are advised to intervene and protect her privacy.
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Phoebe Cousins
Witty Entrepreneurs Face Capital Shortage Challenges
Some aspirants trying to live by their wits may fail due to lack of capital. The remark highlights money as a critical barrier for enterprising individuals pursuing independent ventures.
Whisky Theft Case Sparks Theft of Millions Alleged
A landmark case accuses thieves of stealing millions from a whisky business, highlighting a breach of trust in production and sales. Investigators pursue multiple suspects and trace shipments, finances, and distribution networks to recover missing funds.
Anna Dickenson Through Adversity and Ambition
A troubled profile of Anna Dickenson described as a struggling figure driven by ambition amid personal turmoil and harmful influences. The narrative suggests a decline linked to internal conflicts and external pressures, portraying a life shadowed by volatility and aspiration.
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Anna Dickenson
Aberdeen News Urges Early Prayers for Good Crops
The Aberdeen News argues that prayers for bountiful harvests should begin early rather than wait until crop failures or drought threaten. The paper urges timely spiritual action to seek divine aid in farming communities.
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The
Aberdeen News
Missing Person Appeal for William Walter Taylor
A notice offers a fortune for information on the whereabouts of William Walter Taylor and asks anyone with knowledge to provide details to authorities or the family.
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William Walter Taylor
Heavy Showers May Disturb Circus Schedules
Frequent heavy showers threaten to disrupt performances and travel for circus companies in the region. Organizers fear delays and postponements as demand remains uncertain and outdoor acts depend on clear weather.
Minot House Fire Kills Five Children
Fire at a Minot North Dakota residence on the 26th destroyed the building and caused the deaths of five children. Local authorities reported the tragedy and initiated emergency responses.
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Minot
N.D
Keep Your Matches Out of the Grass Beware Fire Hazard
A safety notice warns residents to discard lighted cigars and pipes safely and avoid sprinkling embers that could ignite dry grass. Authorities urge caution during dry spells and outdoor activities to prevent fires.
The Cisterns Were Not Ready for Rain
A reflective line questions how long the world would wait for universal readiness before rain arrives, highlighting the impracticality of waiting for perfect preparation.
British Defaulter Evades Venezuela Trial
A British defaulter reportedly fled to Venezuela with 35 million dollars, leaving South Dakota out of the matter as authorities pursue recovery and accountability.
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Venezuela
South Dakota
State fair worthy effort needs broad public aid
Editorial urges statewide support to elevate the state fair to fitting prominence. It advocates collective effort from all residents and leaders, emphasizing civic pride and shared investment to improve facilities and programs.
Outgoing Treasurer Walter Described as Efficient
The late Walter is characterized here as an efficient outgoing treasurer, noted for a smooth departure and effective management of duties.
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Walter
Blixt Murder Trial Set For May Fourteenth
Blixt, who confessed to killing Catharine Ging, will face trial in May with the case scheduled for May 14. The proceedings will determine guilt or acquittal based on the evidence presented.
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Blixt
Catharine Ging
Old Connecticut rule on church membership questioned
A historical Connecticut rule restricting eligibility for office to nonmembers or unconnected clergy would, if applied today, be considered awful for churches and governance, highlighting debates on church membership and public roles.
Wind mill irrigation on from one to five acres
The Huronite expects a busy season as wind mill irrigation on small plots ranges from one to five acres and may face notable failures.
Wolves or Foxes Suspected in Kingsbury Bounty Talk
A De Smet News correspondent reports fears that in Kingsbury two thirds of wolves listed for a bounty may be foxes or yellow dogs, raising doubts about the hunt.
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Kingsbury
de Smet News
When Bob Person and Dick Halladay Go to Hold Office
A satirical notice claims that Bob Person and Dick Halladay will maintain current newspaper operations while pursuing office. It accuses readers of being deceived and asserts assurances are false.
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Bob” Person
Dick” Halladay
Whisky trust seeks preacher to expose misused penny collection
The speaker urges finding a preacher who has misappropriated a penny collection to highlight that large thieves sometimes infiltrate their own business, diverting attention from bigger crimes.
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Whisky Trust
Death notice of Rev Edward Brown and kinship
The De Smet News-Leader notes the Rev Edward Brown death and identifies him as a first cousin of Old John Brown. It describes him as radical on human liberty and temperance issues and as a leading radical “We're a state” advocate during South Dakota statehood efforts.
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Edward Brown
de Smet
John Brown
South Dakotas
Judge Edgerton Favored for Huron ITE Amid Rumors
Column notes Judge Edgerton’s health improves and hints at a pending succession plan including Judge Fuller stepping up, Judge Gaffey to join the supreme bench, and Judge L T Boucher of Eureka to fill the Gaffey vacancy. Speculates on Regents’ vacancy and Major Moore’s potential appointment, with a caution about publishing sensitive state affairs.
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Edgerton
Arkansas Gazette
Little Rock
Pierre
Fuller
Gaffey
Supreme Bench
L. T. Boucher
Eureka
Board of Regents
Major Moore
Mitchell
Kopplin family notes dryland struggle and hopeful plans
Alfred Kopplin, with a young boy and girl, visits town amid dry conditions. He reports scarce profits, but says he came with nothing and now owns stock and crops planned for 75 acres of wheat and 100 acres of corn. His 10 year old drives a team and they keep 65 hens to earn some income.
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Alfred Kopplin
Alfred
Huron Tre
Republicans Rally Behind Allison in Des Moines View
The Des Moines Register places the presidential Republican nomination race between Allison and McKinley, noting Allison holds the edge in the paper’s view.
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The
Des Moines Register
Allison
McKinley
Dry season winds drive costly fire record in ten days
The article notes the ongoing dry season and high March winds causing extensive fires over the past ten days. It urges vigilance and caution to prevent further damage.
Madison Daily Leader women edition shines with wit
The Madison Daily Leader stands out among women editions for wit and charm. Gifted women and skilled printers create a winning combination at Horoyire table.
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Madison Daily Leader
Irish Son Defies Microbe Jest at Morning Talk
A cheerful young Irishman quips to the editor about back pains as a joke on microbes. He vows to don his own mock priestly robes once he is far from such taunts.
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Erin
Bagorra
Mike
Kentucky Train Robbery Reported as Most Successful
A western Kentucky incident near Greenwood describes a rail raid where robbers pierced the train with bullets after a tip to the crew. Two fugitives fled to the woods. if captured or killed, the heist would be deemed complete. No injuries occurred and the delay was about ten minutes.
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Greenwood
Archbishop Ireland Calls Americans to Vote or Be Exiled
The Huronane editor advocates universal suffrage from teens to the elderly and urges compulsory voting. Archbishop Ireland supports this stance, declaring that nonvoters deserve disfranchisement or exile.
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The
Huronane
Archbishop Ireland
Foreign tensions hint at looming conflicts with the United States
The piece suggests Spain may harbor hostile aims and notes multiple powers may plan to trouble the United States. It warns that war days are not past and that a struggle for mastery could occur between continents in the near future, praising American reciprocity statesmen from Monroe to Blaine.
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Spain
Uncle Sam
Monroe
Blaine
Auditor Hipple Earns Legislature’s Consideration
The writer lauds Auditor Hipple as a conscientious official deserving fair consideration by the legislature. He has acted against odds to create clear auditing practices and to resist corporate pressures seeking state advantage, urging ample support for his continued work.
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Hipple
Quarrel Between Comstock and Alderman Ends in Blows
Brookings special reports a clash between Lee Comstock and Editor Alderman Allen that led to physical blows. Comstock claims Allen offered to push a council bill for a larger payment if he would divvy. The alleged criminal offer reportedly occurred last year and timing suggests election‑season disclosures may be suspect.
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Brookings
Lee Comstock
Alderman Allen
Comstock
Allen
Charley
Public School Tongue Tied by Round Roast Temptation
A brief note laments student distraction as traditions of roasting circulates in public gatherings, with many boys likely to be excused or not justified due to the lingering round of taunts and temptation.
Rain Water Declared Harmless for Children to Learn
A curious town moisture fills ditches and depressions with rain water. Citizens are reminded it is harmless and suitable for education of modern school children.
Agricultural College Collegian March 23 Report
The Huronite notes the March 23 issue of the Agricultural College Collegian as a premier example of a genuine college paper. It praises clarity, organization, and the quality of content in the student publication.
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Agricultoreal College Collegian
Governor’s Compliment To Ex-Treasurer Sparks Debate
Cartoonish jab accuses critics of persistent nagging about a governor’s praise to ex-treasurer Taylor. The writer notes Taylor’s absence at the time of the compliment.
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Govenor
Taylor
Sins and Promises Stir Rumors in Taylor Beliefs
The text suggests talk about bogus school bonds centered on Taylor and hints at moral scrutiny of a supposed sinner. It mentions possible marriage promises involving Phoebe Cousine, framing social rumors around local figures and futures.
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Taylor
Phoebe Cousine
Editors face test of keeping farms as editors
The piece notes that constant farm improvement is a test of good farming and that the Letcher Blade believes editors face the same standard.
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Letcher Blade
Minnesota Capital Fight Heats Up Between Twin Cities
The contest over the state capital between St. Paul and Minneapolis grows into a stupendous affair with Minneapolis posing a serious challenge to St. Paul. The tug of war intensifies as both sides press for city advantage.
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Minnesota Capital
St. Paul
Minneapolis
New Government Ship St. Paul Launched Amid Scrutiny
Authorities launched the new government ship St. Paul, a bold venture amid questions about its seaworthiness and overall feasibility for service. The scene drew attention to the project as officials push forward with the vessel’s rollout.
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St. Paul
Printing appropriations for legislature set at fifty thousand
The Capital reports in The Washington Olympian that Hopp and Secobey claim the legislature has only fifty thousand dollars allocated for printing this year after seventy thousand last year, highlighting cost control.
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Washington Olympian
Hopp & Secobey
Capital
Educators Eye South Dakota for Jobs Amid Migration Skepticism
A writer notes educators see opportunity in South Dakota and nearby regions. Many from the South are willing to move to the bleak region for work, signaling readiness to relocate for better job prospects.
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South Dakota
Engine Troubles Hit Renfield Observer Reporter
Brother Milton from Renfield Observer notes a gas engine problem. Burleigh suggests excess success may harm the establishment. The engine appears to be losing ground against competition.
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Bro. Milton
Renfield Observer
Burleigh
Edgy Exchange Blames Editor Over Plump Hen Tale
A sharp exchange claims a near sighted hen mistook sawdust for corn meal and hatched a nest of wooden knobs, forming parlor furniture in three weeks. The note adds the editor of that exchange should be arrested for Taylor.
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Taylor
Creameries Likely to Pay Dividends as Lane Continues Interest
The creameries managing Ex-Treasurer Lane may pay fair returns or quit. It is fortunate for the straggling people that Mr Lane keeps involved in these enterprises. He does not wish to rush to make a million this season.
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Lane
Huvronite Seeks Growth in Pierre Investment Plan
The speaker states a wish for Pierre to become a 50 000 population city within five years while noting a large investment in Huron. He argues the area should reach 60 000 residents rather than 4 000 to improve dividends, contrasting Pierre and Huron prospects.
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Huvronite
Pierre
Huron
Weathered Real Estate Talk On Wet Land Conditions
A customer asks about the land’s dampness, and a real estate agent explains heavy rains and raw weather made it seem wet. He predicts dryness within three days once sun returns.
Rain Water Declared Rich Find by Local Experts
A reported rich discovery in the lower town is declared by local experts to be rain water. Samples will go to the Agricultural college for analysis. If results justify neighbourhood faith, the lead will be worked. Pure rain water can be worth more than gold by weight.
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Agricultural College
Neighbborhood
North Dakota budget saves students from debate disruption
The North Dakota governor’s tight-fisted measures spared local college fellows from a heated confrontation. A planned debate with South Dakota University students was cancelled due to reduced ND appropriations, a setback the ND students may call a fortunate escape.
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North Dakota
South Dakota University
North Dakota University
N. D
Swift elected mayor in Cutcae election
In Cutcae on election day Geo B Swift Republican won the mayoralty over Democrat Frank Wentner. The Populist vote fell below expectations.
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Geo. B. Swift
Cutcae
Frank Wentner
South Dakota Faces Large Scale Moisture and Melting Concerns
The report notes vast moisture conditions and melting impacts across South Dakota, highlighting widespread environmental effects and potential infrastructure concerns as warmer weather accelerates melt.
Unclear Fragment Signals Taylor Move from Crawford
Fragmentary text hints at Taylor breaking away from Crawford and possibly moving during a Chiliday period, but details are unreadable and no concrete outcome is provided.
Joe Greene topen Irrigation Book Preview
Disturbed by rumors, officials say the distinguished Hon. Joe Greene is writing a book on irrigation. Observers expect it to be a strong work given his interest and standing.
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Joe Greene
Clyde township creamery opens under Lace management
A new creamery in Clyde township begins operation this week under the general management of Ex-Treasurer Lace and is run by local capital.
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Clyde Township
Headline Trickster Claims News Costs Money
Bashfield of Miller Press tries to hoodwink delinquents into believing running a newspaper costs money. The remark frames the editor as exploiting readers with a supposed financial claim.
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Bashfield
Miller Press
Basford Returns to Ministry as Politician Turns Focus
The Madison Sentinel notes Hon. O. S. Basford’s retreat from political disappointments to the ministry and suggests Hon. Karl Gerner, an early day preacher, as an example of such a path.
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The
Madison Sentinel
Basford
Karl Gerner
Growth of a new state outgrows local jealousy
The author argues jealousy harms new state growth and predicts rapid urban growth. He notes South Dakota’s largest town will reach 100,000 people soon, and says Huron will then have half that population, illustrating competitive urban development.
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South Dakota
Sioux Falls remark sparks times on party editors
The Sioux Falls Forum mocks Republican editors calling them party pups and party poodles. The piece notes Buck’s feelings, described as tender as an old fine shirt, and suggests someone hurt him with the remark.
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Sioux Falls
Buck
Government directs seed distribution through land offices
The Secretary of Agriculture informs the president of the Agricultural College that no seeds may be sent there for distribution. Any seeds supplied must be handled by land offices, and the college should not receive further applications. Existing applications will be forwarded to the land offices promptly.
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Secretary of Agriculture
The
Agricultural College
Help the neighbor town to gain a capable rival
The passage urges staying self serving only when it does not harm others. It advocates aiding nearby towns that offer good opportunities, and helping the next person who wants the business if you cannot do it yourself. It warns against a dog in the manger attitude.
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Number One
Number Two
Editor Allen Affair Quietly Settled By Editors
A minor dispute between Allen editor of the Brookings Press and another citizen flared briefly but was resolved. The parties cooled their heat of debate and settled the matter themselves, letting the issue fade from public view.
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Allen
Brookings Press
Watertown Public Opinion Turns Sixteen With Persistent Voice
The Watertown Public Opinion marks sixteen years of operation. The note compares its enduring run to its founders and longtime readers, joking about its "Ancient Order of Regular Slayers" and the ongoing work of Hou-RONITE proprietors. The piece ends with a playful wish for continued longevity.
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Watertown
Fraternal Wisdom Urges Economic Boycott Against Germany
Republican protection and reciprocity call on every citizen to refuse to buy any German made article until American meats can be exported to German ports. The Herald-Democrat urges a national boycott to support domestic industry and leverage trade restrictions.
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Herald-Democrat
Germany
Reverend McCaslin Praises Indictments Against Underage Cigarette Sellers
Rev D S McCaslin of Bethlehem Presbyterian spoke at a prelude last evening urging the grand jury for indictments against sellers of cigarettes to boys under 16. He cautioned his audience that the issue requires vigilant enforcement and public awareness.
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McCaslin
Minneapolis Journal
D. S. McCaslin
Bethlehem Presbyterian Church
John Longstaff Praised for Prompt and Thorough State Printing
John Longstaff of the Huronizez is commended for promptness and thoroughness in handling state printing. The report notes he “plays ball” and avoids delays in public work.
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John Longstaff
Huronizez
John
Death of Hill Beckwith Senate Page Saddens Chief
Iroquois Chief reports the death of Hill Beckwith a senate page who spent winter at Pierre. The bright boy earned money for a widowed mother and his loss grieves the community.
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Pierre
Hill Beckwith
Senate
Hill
Time Will Heal The Seed Time Harvest Message
A brief editorial style note urges patience and renewed energy. It frames time as a force that will straighten things and bring harvest after seed time. Readers are urged to shake off discontent and push ahead with perseverance.
Brookings Opinion Piece Praises Sound Sense and Gospel Truth
A reader comment from Brookings is praised for its plain speaking and strong moral stance. The writer questions whether the author is an elder, a youth, or someone in between, but affirms the piece carries solid, universal wisdom.
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Bro. Cochrane
Brookings
Sterling and the League in State Press
The name of Hon. Wm. B. Sterling is frequently mentioned by state papers for a seat in the National Republican league. He is described as a representative Republican, a bright man and would honor that body.
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Sterling
League
Pierre Capital
Wm. B. Sterling
National Republican League
Professor Orders Hugronare Stopped For Personal Condemnation
A self described professor condemns cigarette sucking as personal and orders Hugronare halted. He warns that continuing will reduce sense and limit free roaming among echo children, underscoring a bizarre dispute over behavior and decorum.
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Echoo
Hutchinson Secures Northwestern Hicks Weather Agency
G. S. Hutchinson, famed traveling map man, arrived with exclusive northwestern agency for Hicks the weather prophet. He promises copious rains in this region in dune time to ensure abundant crops for the coming year.
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G. S. Hutchinson
Hicks
Revered Early Settler Rev Edward Brown Dies at 81
Rev Edward Brown, long a De Smet pioneer who arrived in 1880 and helped organize the Congregational church, died March 23 and was buried at West Superior after making it his home for two to three years. He was eighty one. An outline of his life work will follow next week.
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Edward Brown
West Superior
Mr. Brown
de Smet
Congregational Church
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