Verdi Opera Trovatore at Chester Park Tonight and Tomorrow
Verdi's Il Trovatore replaces The Bohemian Girl at Chester Park this evening and tomorrow with Miss Adelaide North as Leonora prima donna. Thomas Evans Green sings Manrico, Ellen James Azucena, and Ottley Cranston Arthur Dean alternate as Count di Luna. The cast includes Miss Thornburg, Miss Louie Collier, and Henry Taylor in other roles. The Bohemian Girl resumes Thursday night and closes Saturday. Trovatore repeats Friday and Saturday amid favorable weather assurances.
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Chester Park
Adelaide North
Leonora
Faira
Thomas Evans Green
Miss Norwood
Chester
Manrico
Ellen James
Azucena
Miss Thornburg
Inez
Ottley Cranston
Arthur Dean
Count
Honor Memory Of Early Scientist In Class At West Point
A classroom at West Point honors the memory of an early scientist. The tribute reflects on contributions to science education and a pedagogy rooted in historical context. Students engage with the legacy through a commemorative lesson and discussion.
Centennial of Ormsby Mitchel Birth Highlighted in Cincinnati Note
A 1903 reminiscence recalls the centennial of Ormsby Mitchel, founder of Cincinnati Observatory. It covers his West Point class with Robert E. Lee, his move to Cincinnati, founding the observatory, and his scientific publications, with details on sponsors, site donors, and early funding. Also mentions Mitchel family background and early career.
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Ormsby McKnight Mitchel
Cincinnati
Xenia
Greene County
United States Academy
West Point
Judge McLean
Thomas Ross
Congress
Robert E. Lee
Mitchel
Academy
Europe
Pennsylvania
Cincinnati Observatories and Civil War General Mitchel
An engineer associated with the Ohio Stee Caitrae road and later linked to war service rose to general in the Civil War. He died of fever in service and is buried in Greenwood Cemetery beside his wife. The Cincinnati Observatory on Mount Lookout remained under Prof J G Porter and later became a tax supported city institution.
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Ohio
Cincinnati Observatory
Stiluli
Mount.Lookout
Cincinnati
Turnfest Fireworks Set for Friday Night at Chester Park
The Turners plan a Friday evening display at Chester Park after Il Trovatore to allow opera patrons to view the exhibition. Manufacturers promise a display surpassing any seen in the city with many new pieces debuting. Portraits in fire include Henry Hoefle August Herrmann and Robert Nix, plus a gigantic Turner in action on a horizontal bar. Motion pictures of the Frankfort Turnfest will also be shown Friday night.
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Chester Park
Chester
Henry Hoefle
August Herrmann
Robert Nix
Frankfort
Germany
Bohemian Girl Impresses Chester Park Audience
The Bohemian Girl played last night at Chester Park in brighter style than Sunday. Several hundred telephone girls formed a large theater party, enhancing the atmosphere. The opera will return Thursday evening and Saturday matinee for further performances.
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Chester Park
Opera House
The Turners Attend Kyrl Band Concerts at the Zoo
The Turners and daily visitors enjoy Kyrl and his band performing at the Zoo with concerts held in all weather as readers savor the rich musical programs.
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Turners
Zoo
Kyrl
Willows Lose 1 0 In Hard Fought Kentucky Game
The Willows travel to Cynthiawn Kentucky and fall 1 to 0 in a pitchers duel. Perry Linville allowed three hits for the visitors while Fowler yielded two hits for the Willows. A eighth inning Texas leaguer scoring on a runner on second produced the lone run.
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Willows
Cynthiawn
Perry Linville
Blue Grass League
Fowler
Texas
Secord
Schiol
Linwood
Dayton Lily Brews
Dayton
Norwood
Lily Brews
Selby Folks
Fitzsimmons Seeks Johnson Fight After Return
Robert Fitzsimmons, former world heavyweight champion, arrives in New York aboard the Minneapolis from Europe where he staged exhibition bouts. He predicts Jeffries cannot be beaten in fighting condition and expresses a desire to fight Johnson, insisting no man has taken his middleweight and lightweight titles.
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New York
Robert Fitzsimmons
Minneapolis
Europe
Fitzsimmons
Jeffries
Johnson
Fitz
Chicago Auto Club weighs repeat of West race
The Chicago Automobile Club considers repeating the major West auto race next year despite small attendance and defects in the Friday and Saturday events. President Ira M. Cobe says it is entirely probable the races will be repeated in 1910.
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Chicago
Chicago Automobile Club
West
Ira M. Cobe
Havekor Denies Buying Chicago Ground for Baseball
Milwaukee owner E Havekor says he did not buy land in Chicago for a baseball park. He claims the deal was his own real estate purchase and denies any connection to the American Association.
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Havever
Milwaukee
Wis
Chicago
American Association
E. Havekor
Milwee
Wiamwener
Sullivan Suspended Reported by Umire Owens
Milwaukee reports on June 21 describe Louisville infielder Sullivan being suspended amid a developing baseball incident. The brief item notes initial details from sports writer Owens with no further names or outcomes provided.
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Louisville
Owens
Milwaukee
Wis
Sutor
The Hustler at Lagoon Opens Week of Vaudeville Fun
The New York Musical Comedy company began its Lagoon engagement with The Hustler a two act musical farce. Rain failed to dampen the performance as Marie Barry Edith Fabbrinth and Bradley drew praise for solos and specialties. A dual sketch by Charles and Marie Heclow entertained between acts. Special ladies matinees are planned Tuesday and Thursday with free park admission for women and children on afternoons except Sundays and holidays.
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New York
the Lagoon
Marie "Barry
Edith Fabbrinth
Bradley
Charles
Marie Heclow
Cincinnati Views From the Queen and Princess to Coney Island
The ten mile daily steamer ride from Broadway to Coney Island showcases the Cincinnati panorama. Kentucky hills and the Miami valley frame a scenic rural approach as the Queen and Princess carry visitors on regular trips. Turnfest visitors seek this out-of-town experience to see the city’s most alluring countryside view.
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Coney Island
Broadway
Cincinnati
Kentucky Hills
Miami
Middle States
Coney
St John’s Sunday School Picnic At The Lagoon
The Covington St John’s Sunday school holds its annual outing today at the Lagoon. Teachers and parents accompany the children by special cars. a suitable program is arranged and Sunday school members have free admission to most amusements for a joyful day.
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St. John's Sunday School
Covington
Lagoon
May De Sousa to Star in New Musical Comedy
Miss May De Sousa daughter of a Chicago police detective will star next season in a new musical comedy written by Victor Herbert and Harry B. Smith for Klaw and Erlanger. She recently returned after several successful seasons abroad.
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New York
Miss May de Sousa
Chicago
Klaw
Erlanger
Victor Herbert
Harry B. Smith
Sembrich Bids Berlin Farewell as Rocina in Seville
Mme Marcella Sembrich gave a farewell performance on the Berlin stage today as Rocina in The Barber of Seville. She received an exceptional ovation, with the audience calling her name thirty times before the curtain. Flowers showered from the wings and she tossed blossoms into the crowd. Between acts she sang Johann Strauss Spring Song and other pieces, receiving enthusiastic encores, before concluding with a Polish song accompanied by her own piano.
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Mme. Sembrich
Berlin
Mme
Marcella Sembrich
Rocina
Sullivan Infielder Suspended by League President
Louisville American Association infielder Sullivan received a three day suspension from President O'Brien after delaying the game in St Paul yesterday and using improper language on the field. The action followed a report by Umpire Owens.
Rich New York Girl Joins English Suffrage Campaign
Inez Milholland daughter of New York capitalist John E Milholland plans to campaign for English suffragists. She is currently en route to the British Isles and says she will speak at numerous meetings, visiting many English cities this summer.
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Inez Milholland
New York
John E. Milholland
Miss Milholland
High Seas
British Isles
England
Weston Arrives at Midlake Station After Overnight Ride
Howard Pay son Weston left Ogden at 1:00 am and reached Midlake, a small station on the trestle over the Great Salt Lake, at 1:45 pm after a 37.5 mile westward journey from Ogden.
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Ogden
Utah
Howard Payson Weston
Midlake
Great Salt Lake
Johnson to Box Tory Ross in Pittsburg June 30
New York June 21 A six round heavyweight bout has been set between Jack Johnson and Tory Ross to be held at the Duquesne Gardens in Pittsburg on June 30.
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New York
Jack Johnson
Tory “Ross
Pittsburg
Duquesne Gardens
Covington Health Board and City Council Clash Over Ordinance
Covington council and the health board clashed over an ordinance on married guides and related matters. The council passed the ordinance after a tie vote, with several members voting against. Other actions included director approvals for the Newport and Covington Bridge Co and tax refund measures for former Central Goving farm residents.
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Walter Cleary
Covington
City
John E.i Shepard
Whith
Council of the Health Board
Atonig
Shepard
Sopinis Rm
Rogers
Taylor, Knott, Besterman and Decker
Covington Y M C A Officers Lead Subscriptions Drive Banquet
Richard P Ernst presided at a banquet honoring teams chosen to run the subscription drive for funds for the Railroad Y M C A building at Seventeenth street and Madison avenue. S. L. Thomas of Richmond outlined the solicitors' plan. Ernst and E. P. Goodwin lead with ten captains each directing ten men. The campaign ends next Monday night.
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Richard P Ernst
Seventeenth Street
Madison Avenue
S. L. Thomas
Richmond
Ernst
E. P. Goodwin
Exhibition Scores From Johns Town and Altoona
In Johns town Pennsylvania on June 21 Brooklyn defeated Johnstown 3 to 0 in a National League exhibition. In Altoona Pennsylvania on June 21 New York beat Altoona 7 to 2 in another National League exhibition.
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Johnstown
Brooklyn
Altoona
New York
Capablanca and Marshall draw in twenty six moves again
New York June 21 The eight game match between Jose Capablanca of Cuba and Frank J Marshall ends in a draw after twenty six moves. It remains Capablanca seven wins to Marshall one.
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New York
Jose R. Capablanca
Cuba
Frank J. Marshall
Newport Covington Bridges board takes charge of structure
Jacob Buchert presides over the newly formed Newport and Covington Bridges board with Joseph Roch as secretary and treasurer and Monte Myers John Hearn George Buschmiller and John Hogan as collectors. Detectives study Bud Smith in Lexington for possible ties to three Covington robberies. Funeral services announced for David Cree at Shinkle M E church. he died at 72 from a hip fracture two years after an accident. William Callahan dies at 54 at his West Fifth Street home. funeral plans pending. City treasurer H W Percival notes taxes with penalties due by June 30 and street assessments on Wallace St Louis Madison Howell Willow Broad William Eighteenth and Sterrett avenue due.
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Newport and Covington Bridges Company
Jacob Buchert
Joseph Roch
Monte Myers
John Hearn
George Buschmiller
John Hogan
Newport
Luella Sullivan
John Sullivan
Atherton Gray
Covington
William Sandford
Lexington
Bud Smith
Smith
James Higgins
Emma M. Hamilton
Havey
Walker
David Cree
Nineteenth
Garrard Streets
M. E
John B. Williams
William Callahan
West Fifth Street
Wallace
St. Louis
Madison
Howell
Willow
Broad
William
Eighteenth
Sterrett Avenue
H. W. Percival
Lundgren Sold to Kansas City by Toronto Club
Toronto announces the release of pitcher Carl Lundgren formerly of the Chicago Cubs to the Kansas City team in the American association. The move was disclosed in Toronto Ontario on June 1.
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Chicago
Toronto
Ont
Toronto Baseball Club
Carl Lundgren
Chicago Cubs
Kansas City
Jersey Kilts Bustle and a Grecian Bend Fashion Talk
A fashion feature notes the Longchamps gown as a forerunner of the bustle jersey and Grecian bend styles. It argues for hip emphasis and the return of the 19 inch waist, predicting a shift from extreme slenderness to curvier silhouettes praised by designers and hygienists.
Kenton Court Notes
Hattie Fuhr was granted a divorce from William E. Fuhr yesterday. Judgments and orders of sale were issued in multiple cases including Daniel Trapp vs Hannah Gill and others, Virginia Shipps vs Laura Shipps, and Jeremiah Driscoll and others vs Margaret Driscoll and others. Maggie Lucas denies a warrant for James M. Dial arrest on embezzlement charges.
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Hattie Fuhr
William E. Fuhr
Firth and
Johnson Streets
Daniel Trapp
Hannah Gill
Highland Pike
Virginia Shipps
Laura Shipps
Oak Street
Ludlow
Jeremiah Driscoll
Margaret Driscoll
Maggie Lucas
James M. Dial
Dial
Beloved Pastor to Farewell From St An Catholic Church
Members of St An Catholic Church West Covington announce a formal farewell for Father Libsie De Waspenasre who will leave Wednesday to assume a pastorate in Lexington Kentucky. During four years at St An he built a new schoolhouse improved the church and organized a choral society. He fostered liberal school policies physical culture and outdoor exercise and his removal grieves the parishioners who plan a farewell reception arranged by Dr William Healy.
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Sing. Sing
Musqueer
New. York
Indianapolis
Chicago
Senta. Barbara
Cal
California
Harrisburg
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Alton
Ill
Amarillo
Tex
Johnstown
N. Y
Automobile Club
Lakeside Boat Club
Augusta
Royal Automobile Club of England
Brooklands
Herrera
Columbus
Salvation Army and Volunteers of America
St. An Catholic
West Covington
This
Wistrich Sevcouparea
St. Anh’s
Lexington
Cngregation
William Healy
Fort Mitchell Becomes Sixth Class Town
The Commercial Tribune reports Fort Mitchell was officially created yesterday as a sixth class town by charter from Circuit Judge Harbeson of Covington. Twenty one residents along the Lewisburg car line signed the petition and the judge appointed trustees J A Brownfield William Reilly A G Sim rall sa P Colvie and F D VanWinkle with EB M Gumpf as police judge Albert Marquamarshal and Philip Queal as assessor.
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Commercial Tribune
Fort Mitchell
Harbeson
Covington
Lewisburg
William Reilly
A. G. Simrall
Sa P. Colvie
F. D. VanWin
Kenton County Fiscal Court Takes No Action Meeting
Kenton county fiscal court met in Independence yesterday and took no action on proposals for a new county courthouse and a county high school to be located in Independence. The matters will be considered by the incoming county commissioners. County Clerk Yates asked for filing cases for records in Covington. County Attorney Tracy said it is Covington’s duty to furnish them.
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Kenton County Fiscal Court
Independence
Yates
Covington
Tracy
Judge Stephens Files Candidacy for Re election
County Judge H P Stephens confirmed he will run again for county judge and no other office. The announcement ends retirement rumors that swirled during the Democratic campaign and is welcomed by Republicans who expect a strong candidacy in the county.
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H. P. Stephens
Judge Stephens
Good Roads Talk Set for Independence July 3
Kenton County Good Roads association met in Independence to plan a Washington soil department attache lecture on good roads. The illustrated talk will be July 3 in Independence and again that night in Bird's hall Latonia. Magistrate W H R Wheeler spoke to the group.
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Kenton County Good Roads Association
Independence
Department of Agriculture
Washington, D. C
Bird's Hall
Latonia
W. H. R. Wreeler
Promoters Raise Over 5000 in Stock Subscriptions
Over five thousand dollars in stock subscriptions were secured by the promoters of the Lexington, Louisville and Maysville Traction Company at an open meeting in Independence. W T Blackburn, president, presided and James Blackburn of Franklin Ohio spoke on benefits from the Louisville to Maysville line through Kenton County.
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Lexington, Louisville
Property Transfers Include Crescent Springs Lot and Erlanger Road Acreage
John P Heins and Sophia Brinkman transfer to Katherine A Givens as of the west side of Holman Street. John and Mollie Oppal transfer to der Clutterbuck Lot 22 Block 17 Crescent Springs subdivision. Robert and Susan Beker convey two acres on Erlanger Road to Martha Souther.
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John P. Heins
Sophia Brinkman
Katherine A. Givens
Holman Street
John
Mollie Oppal
der. Clutterbuck
Crescent Springs Improvement Company
Robert
Susan Beker
Martha Souther
Erlanger Road
Latonia man jailed for concealed weapon offense
James Hill was fined fifty dollars and sentenced to thirty days in jail by Police Judge Carlton for carrying concealed weapons. The defendant’s residence was listed as unknown.
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James Hill
Carlton
Payne denies quitting sheriff race in Campbell county
James Payne former Newport official and longtime Republican worker says he remains in the sheriff nomination race despite rumors his withdrawal. Joe Dietz and Fréd Koustmer also vie for the ticket. party executives have not acted on any slate.
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James Payne
Newport
Republican Party
Campbell County
Sheriff
Counseilman
Joe Dietz
Fréd Koustmer
Soace
Executive Committee
Stevens Draws Fine in Campbell Circuit Court
Judge Yungblut presided in Alexandria over the Stevens case in which J. O. Stevens pleaded guilty to a lesser offense for shooting at his brother in law William Smeltz. He was fined 25 dollars plus court costs. Jury commissioners J. J. Wright Fred Rachford and C. Gosney were appointed for the year. The Alexandria session neared end with Newport court to resume tomorrow. Herzog was arraigned on a writ of lunacy and adjudged.
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Yungblut
Campbell Circuit Court
Alexandria
J. O. Stevens
William Smeltz
Commonwealth
Stevens
J. J. Wright
Fred Rachford
Gosney
Newport
William Herzog
Effort to Contest Café Trial Highlights Defense Counsel
A fragmented report notes counsel’s bid to contest the cafe case before the jury. It points to arguments portraying Herzog-Peas as dangerous as the trial proceeds.
Attorneys Protest Tax Limitation, June 30 Extension Granted
Campbell county lawyers argue delinquent taxes cannot be collected beyond five years while Collector Andersen cites no statutory limit. After meeting with collectors, attorneys representing property owners receive until June 30 for further study of state law on delinquent taxes.
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Campbell County
Andersen
Anderson
Report of DeMoss arrest in Amelia unsettles Campbell county
Residents in Melbourne and Campbell county were excited by a rumor that John DeMoss, who killed Louis Filhardt, was arrested in Amelia Ohio. Authorities could not verify the report by late night. Magistrate Quehl spoke by long distance with an Amelia officer, but the description did not match DeMoss.
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Melbourne
Campbell County
John DeMoss
Louis Filhardt
Amelia
Campbel
Quehl
Highlands
DeMoss
Manual Training Adopted in Newport Schools
The Newport board of education approved a manual training program for public schools. They elected R. L. Covell from Middletown as supervisor for Newport, with a salary of 1200 dollars. The decision came by unanimous vote following committee recommendations.
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Newport Public Schools
Board of Education
R. L. Covell
Middletown
Newport
Newport News Notes Highlight Local Meetings and Obituaries
Esther Temple initiations and officer elections in Newport tonight. Educational talk by Ellsworth Regenstein at Kentucky State Educational Association session opening at Estill Springs. Rev Homer Noble accepts charge at Newport First Presbyterian Church succeeding Rev Whitehead. Engagement announced for Rosalia O Shaughnessy and Samuel Bates of Memphis. Bellevue sewing class outing planned at Ludlow Lagoon. St Joseph's Alumni banquet at Altamont hotel with Frank Ostendorp master of ceremonies. Funerals for George Beyer and William McNamara noted with local dignitaries attending.
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Esther Temple
Pythian Sisters
Newport
K. of Pnall
Ellsworth Regenstein
Newport Public Schools
Kentucky State Educational Association
Estill Springs
Regenstein
Kentucky
Homer M. Noble
Lane Seminary
First Presbyterian Church
Whitehead
Wellsville, O
Peter O’shaughnessy
Upper York Street
Rosalia O’shaughnessy
Samuel O. Bates
Memphis
Peoria
Lora Lindsey
Lydia Casey
Seattle
George Beyer
Aliie Beyer
Speers Hospital
Corpus Christi Church
Evergreen Cemetery
Newport Camp
United Spanish War Veterans
William McNamara
Michael McNamara
Church of the Immaculate Conception
Order of Hibernians
John Barton
William Cain
Thomas Fitzsimmons
Michael Beckstein
Thomas Flannery
John Flynn
Joseph Conlan
Robert
Bellevue fines case appeal in Campbell County Court
The Union Idight Heat and Power company appealed a $50 Bellevue police court fine for allegedly supplying gas and electricity without a license. An order sought to appoint a special judge to hear the case, with Judge Yungblut recusing himself. The Girty estate action includes sale of land near Fort Thomas. City suits seek delinquent taxes from Koehler, White, and Mauget. Decree granted in Harris v Harris with restoration of maiden name Stella Secrist. Joe Maynard pleads guilty to fare dispute on a Newport street car. costs assessed.
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Union
Idight, Heat and Power Company
Bellevue
Circuit Court
Bardo
Willson
Martin J. Girty
Mary Ellen Cronin
Yungblut
Girty
Fort Thomas
Baker
Gus Koehler
John White
Marie Mauget
Lilian Stella Harris
Joseph Harris
Newport Real Estate Ledger Item
A fragment notes Harris and Lucille Coffin with husband John Ss in a Newport real estate context. The unreadable text suggests a property transfer or listing involving a local company.
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Lotta Harris
Lucillee Coffin
John
Fe Ee Company
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