Fruit men in Baltimore charged with conspiracy to defraud
John H Seward and associates including Robert Whiteford and others were arrested on December 28 in Baltimore on charges of conspiring to defraud the U S government through fraudulent fruit weighing at Mount Clare yards. The scheme allegedly used water soaked slush and sawdust as weighted fruit to evade duties, with officials claiming thousands of dollars lost. Seward and Whiteford denied guilt, and all faced January 15 Commissioner appearance.
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John BH. Seward
Baltimore
Customs Service
John H Seward
J H. Seward & Co
Robert M. Whiteford
United States Customs Department
Hdward Satterfeld
F A. Little
Seward
Stepaenana
Thomas Jackson
George Lewis
United States
Foreien
Mount Clare
Baltimore and Ohio Railroad
Wakeford
Rodgers
Special Internal Revenue
Cullom
Secretary of the Treasury
Whiteford
Shaw
Philadelphi
New York
Sues actress and manager over theater ejection incident
Three damage suits for 5000 dollars each were filed in Circuit Court by John W Sands and Francis W Buckman and Thomas J Powell of West Virginia against Eve Tanguay and R G Herndon manager of the play A Guo Yellow After the Grand Opera House audience ejected the three men during the second act Miss Tanguay identified them and ordered them removed Herndon advised their exit and briefly touched Sands The men refused but left later A warrant for Herndon on assault charges was posted and he paid five dollars and costs The case moves to Grafton where the papers were sent tonight
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Washington Post
Wo Ve
John W. Sands
Wheeling
Francis W Buckman
Thomas J Powell
Monongah
Wva
Eve Tanguay
R. G Herndon
Grand Opera House
Miss Tanguay
Herndon
Sands
Warant
Grafton
Arrest for Syrians Death in Virginia murder case
Special to The Washington Port Petersburg Va Dec 28 James Davis one of the negroes charged with the murder of Joseph Saleeby a Syrian of this city at Dendron Surry County last Wednesday afternoon has been arrested and sent on to the Circuit Court after a preliminary examination He was committed to the county jail William Wilbert alias Smith another negro charged as a principal to the murder and who escaped is at large He is thought to have gone to Norfolk where his mother resides Sheriff B D Edwards of Surry County left for Norfolk to apprehend him if possible The remains of the murdered man arrived there last night
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Washinton Port Petersburg
James Davis
Joseph Saleeby
Dendron
Surry County
Thal
Wiliam Wilbert
Smith
Norfolk
B.D Edwards
Two Charged With Assault In Maryland Case
Washington Post dispatch from Hagerstown Maryland reports William Curtis alias Yorky arrested by Constable Bratiper at Pinesburg for assaulting sixteen year old Nora Mowen daughter of Samuel Mowen. Curtis awaits a hearing before Justice Reitigell at Clear Spring. Samuel Mowen has also sworn in a warrant against Melvin Lesher for attacking Nora Mowen. Lesher is identified as the girl’s suitor.
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Washington Post
Hagerstown
William Curtis
Yorky
Nora Mowen
Samuel Mowen
Charlton
Miss Mowen
Young Lesher
Believes Son Was Murdered After Hunting Party Find
A seventeen year old, Jesse Smith, was found dead near Advance, Davie County. A shotgun wound to the stomach and chest suggested foul play. His father claims murder and a coroner's jury investigates. Smith was nephew to Morgan Smith of Pittsburg. The youth hunted Wednesday with others and was last seen at noon.
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Washington
Winston-Satem
N C
Jesse Smith
Advance
Davie County
Smith
Morgan Smith
Pittsburg
Edward Smith
Turnpike Men Meet at Maryland Turnpike Meet
The Maryland Turnpike Association held its fourth annual meeting in Hagerstown with officers elected including Dr J H Billingslea president and George Albaugh vice president. Attendees included most major turnpike firms and the group discussed amendments to state road laws and a township system as solution to road problems.
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Washington Post
Hagerstown
Maryland Turnpike Association
J. H. Billingslea
Westminster
George W. Albaugh
Oliver © Warehime
Frederick
George KR
Denma
A. P Snader
Samuel Hoop
Carroll County
Arthur Towson
Samuel Strite
Forty Unopened Letters Seized From Virginia Firms
Police recovered about forty unopened letters from rural Virginia districts after a short closure of W H Palmer & Co in Alexandria. Letters were turned over to Post Office Inspector Smith. stamped envelopes bore the firm name and former address. Also reported: assault on Richard Edmunds near Duke Street, and local bank dividend declarations, funerals, lodge news, and court notes from Alexandria.
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Virginia
Washington Post Bureau
King Street
Alexandra
North West Street
Alexandria
W. H Palmer & Co
Orm
Gar
Smith
Washington
Virginia Weddings in Loudoun and Tidewater Areas
Leesburg wedding reports: Robert L. Washington of Lorettaville marries Maude Kalb of Hivan at the Methodist Episcopal Church with Rev A J Gfel officiating. They plan to reside near Lovetialie after leaving for Washington DC. multiple local nuptials follow in Fredericksburg and Fredericksburg area noting attendees, officiants, and venues.
Mrs Breslin's Garber Stenographer Claims Pullman Wife Status
A reported case in New York Children's Court reveals Lilian Mason Pullman Breslin once claimed to be the wife of George H. Pullman nephew of Pullman parlor car founder. She alleged marriage and son Edmard Pullman with stakes tied to a $50,000 legacy, while recounting assaults and travels with Miss Clara Barton’s Red Cross circle.
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Lilian Mason Pullman Breslin
New York City
George H Pullman
George M. Pullman
Edmard Pullman
Children’s Society
New York
West Side
Poverty Hollow
Washington
Clara Barton
National Red Cross
Miss Barton
Armenia
Cuba
George H. Pull
Pullman
National Red Cragg
Lilian Mason
Pullian
Baltimore
Miss Mason
Key West
Fitzhugh Lee
Dr Culpepper's Death Shocks Portsmouth Community
Norfolk Va Dec 28 Dr C L Culpepper a leading physician of Portsmouth was found dead in his office with a bullet wound and a pistol beside him The inscription broken health was found on a postal card on his desk Earlier he signed two deeds of gift transferring valuables to his wife and then requested clerk’s open time for record His body was found after his office was broken into by his colored driver and two drug clerks He was prominent and wealthy His wife was formerly Miss Mary C Harwood of Richmond
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Norfolk
C. L. Culpep
Iper
Portsmouth
Culpepper
Mary. C. Harwood
Richnfond
Baby Found in Snowdrift After Christmas Dance Mishap
Special to The Wasraton Pest Wheeling West Virginia December 2 A two year old lay in a snowdrift behind a boarding house at Benwood with almost no clothing. Frank Doral found the infant at midnight during a Christmas dance. The child is severely hurt and likely to die. The parents left their sons aged six and eight at home and the mother, unaware of the incident, threatens self harm if the baby does not recover.
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Wasraton
Wheeling
W Va
Benwood
Frank Doral
Frank Ooparth
Bar Association Adjourns After Busy West Virginia Session
Special to The Washington East Elking West Virginia Bar Association delegates wrap two days of reports and arguments. Congressman Joseph Holl Gaines presided at a banquet where lively remarks followed. The group did not endorse replacing elected judges with a system of exchange. They discussed ballot form, primary reform, gas waste, oil and gas transport, forest protection and the fee system, but made only recommendations to the legislature.
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Washington East Elking
W. Va
West Virginia Bar Association
Randolph County Bar Association
Joseph Holl Gaines
West Virginia
Woman Fatally Beaten Near Peru in Alleghenies
Special to The Washington Post reports from Harrisonburg Virginia that Dorothy Ween known as Harpman, living with Vance Simons, was brutally beaten while ill with typhoid fever in Peru West Virginia. She died Monday in agony. Two young men are under surveillance as suspects. Heavy snows hinder communication in Hardy County.
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Tne
Washington Rex
Harrisonburg
Hardy County
W. Va
Peru
Allegheny Mountains
Dorothy Ween
Harpman
Vance Simons
Small Mountain
Pert
Keyser
Bowmen
Herbod
Abductors Fined In Forced Virginia Wedding
In Clarksville Virginia on December 2, Robert El Chandler father of Bessie Chandler and his cousin known as Texas Bob Chandler were fined for abducting Rich Elam the groom. Elam and the minister faced pressure from the Chandlers during a gunpoint marriage. The case followed a dramatic abduction through which Elam was compelled to marry. A suit to annul the marriage may follow.
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Washington Post
Clarksville
Robert EL Chandler
Bessie Chandler
Rich Elam
Chandler
Texas
Bob" Chandler
Elam
Young Blam
Miss Chandler
Chandlers
Fire wipes out Freedom Oil plant in Wheeling
Special to The Washington, Wheeling, Dec 28. A boiler explosion in the engine room started a fire that burned for over 30 hours, destroying the Freedom Oil Company plant, a Standard subsidiary. Manager Frank McGill, near the engine house, was fatally injured and taken to the city hospital. Two large oil tanks exploded, oil streams burned high into Wheeling Creek, threatening the Schmulbach Brewing Co. complex as firefighters fought multiple blazes and the city paid a $10,000 loss.
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Washington
Wheeling
W. Va
Freedom Oil Company
The
Standard
Frank McGill
Wheeling Creek
Schmulbach Brewing Company
Funeral of Dr Smith in Norfolk for Bishop Smith
The body of Bishop A Coke Smith of the Methodist Episcopal Church South, who died in Asheville, N C, will arrive in Norfolk tomorrow morning and the funeral will be held at Epworth Church in the afternoon. Rev Dr B D Smart will preach the funeral sermon. Pallbearers will be laymen from Epworth Church. Raleigh notes report the Bell and Interstate Telephone Companies uniting as Capital City Telephone Company with 2000000 capital stock. W T Gentry named president. L A Carr vice president. directors include George W Watts Julian S Carr A B Andrews jr A Maupin Hunt Shipley. Merger effective January 1.
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Norfolk
A Coke Smith
Methodist Episcopal Church South
Asheville
Epworth M. E
Epworth Church
Washington Post
Raleigh
N. C
Bell and Interstate Telephone Companies
United
Capital City Telephone Company
W. T. Gentry
Atlanta
Ball Company
L. A. Carr
Durham
Interstate Company
George W. Watts
Julian S Carr
A. B. Andrews, Jr
A. Maupin
Hunt Shipley
Obituary notices from Virginia regional papers
A Virginia obituary roundup reports deaths of Rev. Lewis T. Lampe of Lovettsville, Md born, longtime pastor turned cashier at Somerset National Bank. Madison Dailey near Gap State. J W Robertson of Charlottesville, civil war veteran and merchant. Malcolm Winston UVA student, Culpeper County return. Samuel F Stapleton Parkersburg attorney and former chief court judge.
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Leesburg
Lewis T. Lampe
Frederick City
Somerset
Ir. Lampe
Reformed Church
Lovettesville
Phenix
Ariz
Somerset National Bank
Grimith
Lancaster
Pickett
Fifteenth Virgins
Malcolm
Winston
University of Virginia
University Hospital
Culpeper County
Parkersburg
W. Va
Samuel F Stapleton
Italians and Bird Protection Stir Audubon Society
The Audubon Societies urge laws to penalize alien hunters after reports of Italians drifting across the United States to kill song birds. William Dutcher, president, notes thousands of birds killed yearly by foreign hunters and calls for licenses and penalties. Deputies and officers have been attacked or killed while defending wildlife in Pennsylvania Wisconsin and New York.
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United States
America
Italy
National Association of Audubon Societies
Association
William Dutcher
Ite
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin
Audubon Organization
Rockland County
New York State
Comrades to Bury Veteran in Confederate Ceremony
The Confederate Veterans Association will take charge of the body of Richard Waldron, a longtime shoe-string vendor who died at Central Union Mission on Christmas morning. Waldron, once an inmate of the Confederate Home in Richmond, came to Washington in 1897 to work in printing and later sold shoelaces. John McD. Carrington said steps would be taken to dispose of the body, with burial likely at Richmond’s Confederate Cemetery.
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Confederate Association
Richard Waldron
Central Union
Confederate Veterans’ Association
Waldron
Confederate Home
Richmond
John McD. Carrington
The
Confederate Veterans of Washington
Not Enough Colored Pupils Oppose Brookland School
White residents of Brookland oppose constructing a new school for colored pupils, arguing too few colored children exist to justify a new building. A hearing before the board of education committee featured A F P Kinnan and Dr M J Holmes for the white side against M S Keonce and B F Petway for the colored supporters. Building committee members were Admiral Baird Captain J F Oyster John F Cook and Dr A T Atwood.
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Board of Education
M. J. Holmes
Association
M. S. Keonce
B. F. Petway
Admiral Baird
J F. Oyster
John F. Cook
A.T. Atwood
His Troubles Are Manifold Goes Home to Spend Christmas
Former Charlotte policeman Cog bill, now in Norfolk, traveled to Charlotte to spend Christmas Eve. His visit has seen three warrants issued for disorderly conduct and indecent language, assault with a bottle, and affray with his brother in law. He posted a $100 bond for morning court and faced attachments on his bondsmen.
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Washington Post
Charlotte
Ed L Cogbill
Norfolk
HL. J. Muse
Hendrix Palmer
Thas
Cogbill
Brandham Dies of Wounds After Shooting
Winston-Salem man Brandham died from pneumonia linked to exposure after being shot Monday night. A coroner's inquest heard witnesses, including fat John Gordon, who claimed to see the shooting and subsequent exchange of shots. Brandham begged to see his mother before burial at Woodland Cemetery.
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Winston-Salem
N. C
Brandham
Woodland Cemetery
Big Stone Gap
Pfhol
Lockett
Fat John Gordon
Andham
Gordon
Fireman Dies of Injuries in Shipyard Blaze
Special to The Washington Fos reports Holdie Holdine, a fireman at the Newport shipyard, died at the hospital after a fall during a fire. He never regained consciousness following an operation to relieve brain pressure. His mother Mrs. S. E. Eddins and brother L. Eddins of Richmond were present. the body to be moved to Richmond for interment.
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Washington Fos
Newports
Holdie Holdine
Obituary of Capt Levin J Houston on Maryland’s Eastern Shore
Captain Levin J Houston a leading Worcester County figure dies at Stockton at age sixty five from pneumonia. He was twice elected sheriff and once county commissioner. His son Levin J Houston Jr an assistant engineer for the Baltimore water commission.
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Snow Hil
Levin J. Houston
Eastern Shore
Stockton
Worcester County
Levin J. Houston, Jr
Baltimore
Sailors Dance at Armory in Center Market Hall
A gay social event by the District Naval Battalion drew sailors to Center Market Armory on Thursday night. Yard-arm signal flags decorated the hall and National Guard band provided music from a balcony draped with American flags. The social occasion marked the first shore party dance by the battalion, formerly hosted on ships, with light refreshments and an arrangements committee led by Lieut. Joseph A Dempf and Ensigns J B Dalton and F P Noel.
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Center Market Hall
District Naval Battalion
Natonal Guard Brigade
Liew
Joseph A Dempf
Joseph B. Dalton
F. P. Noel
RL. Fryer
Willam C Herforth
S. W Stratton
J A Dempf
J. D. Carmody
Walter Burt
HL Mittendorf
John L Johns
WG. Neumeyer
F, Durston
J. B. Dalton
K. Clements
R. L. Fryer
P. Noel
Deserted Boys Kept House Near Bronx Protectory
Three boys aged fifteen to seven and their ten year old sister, living alone for six weeks, were found by Children's Society agents in a dismantled Bronx house near the Catholic Protectory. Father John Marion, a prosperous builder, is missing. mother sent to a Sullivan County sanitarium months ago. Michael Marton, William, James, and Margaret spoke of foraging food from a grocer who owed their father money.
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Washington Post
New York
Children’s Society
Catholic Protectory
Bronx
John Marion
Sullivan County
Michael Marton
William
James
Margaret
Michael
Papa
Shoplifter I8 Fined In Police Court Case Details
Frances Nowkling Isertha Lee and Grace Benjamin faced Judge Mulloway on shoplifting charges. Nowkling received a $60 fine and 60 days jail if unpaid. Bertha Lee and Benjamin had multiple counts, demanded jury trials, and faced bonds. The Nowkling case was postponed due to a matron reporting drug-related illness.
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Frances Nowkling
Isertha Lee
Alas Trimmer
Grace Benjamin
Mulloway
Bertha Lee
Taft Pridey
Nowkling
House of Detention
Cornell Gets Dr Webber Leaves Agricultural Department
Dr H J Webber head of Plant breeding Investigations in the Department of Agriculture will leave government service to accept a professorship at Cornell University. A new department of experimental plant biology is to be created at the university. Webber has worked with the department since 1892, contributing to numerous fruit and plant varieties and improving existing ones.
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Agricultural Department
H. J. Webber
Department of Agriculture
Apline
Cornel
Webber
Jonadab Watch Meeting Sets Second Annual New Year Event
The Fraternal Sons of Jonadab finalize plans for their second annual New Year watch night at a yet unspecified start time Monday evening. Over 500 invitations issued. pledge to abstain appears likely. Resolutions back hospital for inebriates and praise Juvenile Court alcohol laws. speakers include Dr J P Keller and several local leaders.
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Sons of Jonadab
Eugene &. Hannan
St Martin's Catholic Church
Willam H de Lacy
Juvenile Court
William F. Downey
Good Samaritan Home
Andrew 3. Burt
A. Tethed
James L Feeney
The
Bookbinders’ Society
J. B. McLaughlin
Zed H. Copp
J. P. Keller
A B. Sertven
G. WH. Beller
F K. Beller
W. A. Hickey
A. Offatt
WA Blackstock
A F McCabe
William Lydddne
R EL Y Brien
J. J. O'Brien
Sunday School Enjoys St Martin's Christmas Party at Hall
A large audience attended St Martin's Sunday school Christmas party at Carroll Institute Hall. Teachers and pupils, aided by the Drury Lane Dramatic Club, presented music, literature, and three sketches. Proceeds benefit St Martin's Catholic Church Bloomingdale. Participants included Catharine Mullaty Edith Lovelace Elizabeth Reynolds Stella R McFadden Roy McIntyre Jessie Good George A Finch Bernard Focke Jr Regina Sullivan George Melling Dorothy Montrose Gertrude C Lyddane Loretta Sullivan Pilas Mey A Melling John J Carroll Charles Osborne Elmer Dyer Marie Strudley Joseph Grady Katherine Trotter Mabel Cassell Charles Ray Harold Efforth Harold and Gilbert Dyer Arthur Lanigan Marion Rooney Sarah Farr Edna Strudley Ethel Rooney and the Sunday school chorus.
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St. Martin's Sunday School
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Bloomingdale
Catharine Mullaty
Edith Lovelace
Elizabeth Reynolds
Stella
Gilbert Dyer
Arthur Lanigan
Marion Rooney
Sarah Farr
Edna Strudley
Ethel Rooney
CITYS POOR HELPED
John Joy Edson treasurer of the Associated Charities lists donations received for city relief. Names and gifts include F J Lewis five dollars, Anna Capp one hundred dollars, Rudolph Wert $35, A and G1 310, and numerous smaller contributions from individuals and households noted by the desk.
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Associated Charities
Board of Managers
All Street
Desk
F J. Lewis
Jastelia Parquhar
A. C Addison
Julie J. Pitkin
Prd
A. G Wilkinson
Anna P Capp
George F.stand
Edwards Alexander
Bice Twurn A. Skinner
Leds Melninger
Call
Hutchinson McCarthy
Rudolph Wert
Mary Spencee
H, Wilcox
How John Alden Slipped the Lemon to Miles Standish
A curt sketch in verse recounts the tale of John Alden slipping a lemon to Miles Standish as part of a playful retelling. George Ade embraces blank verse with vigorous Edwardian English and vivid character portrayal.
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John Alden
Miles Standish
George Ade
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