Ex-Service Men Guests At Church Services
Members of High Point Post No. 619 Veterans of Foreign Wars and its Auxiliary will attend a 7:30 p m service at South Main Street Methodist church. Ex-service men are invited to assemble at 7:15 p m. Other churches hold services. First Methodist Protestant details include 9:45 a m Sunday School directed by J H Jennings, 10:55 a m worship with sermon Triumphant Grace In The Early Church by Rev R I Farmer, music by Beulah Moton and J D Koonce Jr, vesper at 6:00 p m with subject The Pure Heart And Restored Joy and more music. midweek studies and Christian Endeavor topic How To Master Temptation. North Main Street services list 9:45 a m school, 11 a m and 7:30 p m messages on The More Abundant Life by Rev J F Moser, Bible study Wednesdays.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
High Point Post
Veterans of Foreign Wars
South Main Street
First Methodist Protestant Church
North Main
Richardson Streets
J. H. Jennings
Sullivan
Blount
J. D. Koonce, Jr
Schuler
Farmer
Schumann
Scott
Margaret Curry
Harings
Christian Endeavor
Josephine Ferguson
Roscoe Sowers
J. F. Moser
First Reformed Church Sunday Services Outline
At First Reformed Church south Main and Russell Rev W R Shaffer will deliver The Shadow of the Cross at 11 am The Joy To Be Found In Worship at 730 pm Lent emphasized first Sunday Sunday school at 945 am Devotional leader presents The Helpful Jesus Young People's Christian Endeavor meets at 630 pm discussion led by pastor A church membership class for Palm Sunday will study Walking and Working With Christ during Sunday school Prayer service set for Wednesday at 730 pm
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
First Reformed
First Reformed Church
South Main
Russell Streets
W. R. Shaffer
Jesus
Young People’s Christian Endeavor Society
Christ
Salvation Army Sunday Schedule for Services and Meetings
Salvation Army outlines Sunday events with times for Sunday school at 9 45 a m and morning preaching at 11 a m Adjutant John O Beirne to lead Morning programs continue with Young People's Legion at 6 30 p m and evening evangelistic service at 7 30 p m Adjutant John O Beirne in charge.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Salvation Army
Young People’s Legion
John O’beirne
St Marys Episcopal church announces Sunday services
St Marys Episcopal Church schedules school at 9 45 Sunday morning prayers and sermon at 11 high liturgy at 8 am for Young Peoples Service League events at 6 30 pm each Sunday rector Rev Howard Hartzell to speak Wednesday at 4 30 pm and communion Thursday at 10 am public invited to attend services at the corner of the church.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
ST. Mary's Episcopal Church
Young People’s Service League
Howard
Hartzell
St. Mary’s Church
Corner
Meaning of Birthdays Sermon at Emmanuel Lutheran
Emmanuel Lutheran Church advertises Sunday sermons with Meaning of Birthdays at 11 AM in the morning service and Testimonials Endorsing the Great Physician at 7 30 PM in the Re Making Men series. Sunday school begins 9 45 AM.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Emmanuel Lutheran Church
Sunday school and services schedule announced
The article lists Sunday school at 9 45 a m led by Bascom Moffitt. The fourth Sunday evening services are at 2 30 and 7 00 with Rev M A Pollard preaching. Prof RE Hamilton of Greensboro to conduct a singing. A weather dependent plan sets Monday night at 7 p m as singing time, else Tuesday night at 7 p m. The public is invited to attend all services and urged to attend the singing.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Bascom Moffitt
M. A. Pollard
RE. C. Hamilton
Greensboro
Springfield Friends Church Services and Youth Sessions
The pastor Miss Clara I. Cox will deliver the 11 a.m. sermon titled Christ of Salvation at Springfield Friends church Sunday. The Senior Christian Endeavor society meets at 6:30 p.m. with Douglas Purcell leading, and the Junior society follows at the same time.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Springfield Friends
Clara I. Cox
Springfield Friends Church
Soul to be Lesson Topic in All Christian Science Churches
The article notes that "Soul" will be the lesson sermon across Christ Scientist churches and societies this Sunday. Services occur at 309 North Main Street with a Sunday school at 9 46 am and reading rooms open Wednesdays and Fridays from 2 to 4 30 pm.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Churches and Societies of Christ, Scientist
North Main Street
Taylor to preach at North Hamilton Street Church of Christ
Rev. Nixon A. Taylor will speak Sunday morning at 11 o clock on The Christian's Leader at the North Hamilton Street Church of Christ Disciples. An evening message at 7 30 will be A Sure Anchorage and Bible school meets at 9 45 with Christian Endeavor at 6 30. Mid week service Wednesday at 7 is open to the public.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Church OF Christ
Nixon A. Taylor
Hamilton Street
Church of Christ (Disciples
Reformation Church announces services with Rev. George Cooper
Reform ation Church of God invites the public to morning worship at 10 a m. preaching at 11 a m. by Rev George Cooper of Charlotte. The Young People’s Society meets at 6 30 p m. The general service at 7 30 p m features another sermon by Rev George Cooper.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
George Cooper
Charlotte
Young People’s Society
Pastor Falk Leads Sunday Services On Rewinning Souls
Rev. A. Lincoln Falk will oversee both morning and evening services this Sunday. The morning sermon tema tically discusses Rewinning Souls, while the evening continues a Ten Commandments series focusing on the second commandment. Sunday school starts at 9 45 am and B P U at 6 00 pm.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
A. Lincoln Falk
Gospel Tabernacle Sunday Schedule and Talks
Sunday school meets at 9:30 a.m. Rev. T. H. Willey speaks at 11 a.m. on The Cross. The Booster Band, ages three to thirteen, performs at 7 p.m. Mr Willis speaks at 7:30 p.m. on The Deceitfulness of Sin.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Gospel Tabernacle Sunday School
T. H. Willey
Willis
Welch Memorial M. P. Sunday Services and Sunday School
Welch Memorial M. P. holds Sunday school at 9 45 led by W W Frye with superintendent in charge Preaching at 11 am and 730 pm by Pastor Dr J D Williams morning topic Nothing Too Good For the Upright C E B society meets at 615 pm Public invited to attend These notices mirror a local church service schedule and invite the community to participate.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Welch Memorial M. P
W. W. Frye
J. D. Williams
C. EB. Society
First Presbyterian Week Services Schedule
Sunday February 18 features 9:45 Sunday school 11 am morning worship with Dr Joseph Rennie preaching 5 pm vesper service with Dr Rennie in the pulpit Choir under Prof Dan W Smith to sing Joy Joy Is Theirs and God Shall Wipe Away All Tears as offertory solo Dichmont Peace I Leave With You by Irma Suits. Young People's Council meets 6 15 pm in social rooms with light supper and speech by Prof Wade Marlette.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
First Presbyterian
Joseph Rennie
Rennie
Dan W. Smith
Stoughton
Field
Plan Classes for Industry Workers in Southern Area
Mrs. Louise McClaren of Baltimore visited to discuss inaugu rating adult education classes for workers in industry in cooperation with a federal program. She held conferences before Salisbury to study expansion and possible employment to teachers, noting North Carolina classes attract industrial workers and plan to spread in southern centers once organization is perfected.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Louise McClaren
Baltimore
Southern Schools For Women Workers In Industry
Salisbury
McClaren
Woman's Auxiliary Plans Monthly Meeting on Good Sportsmanship
The group meets Monday at 3 PM in the Gleaners' room with all members urged to attend. Mid week prayer service is Wednesday at 7 30 PM and choir practice follows at 8 15 PM.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Woman’s Auxiliary
Gleaners
Wesley Memorial Services Preview by Dr Lambeth
Wesley Memorial Methodist church will hold both morning and evening worship with Dr W A Lambeth preaching at 11 AM on Learning By Experience and at 7 30 PM on The Golden Rule In Practice Special music is planned for both services The church school begins at 9 45 AM inviting visitors and new members A 6 30 PM supper meeting for the young peoples department will feature Miss Virginia Frank giving a violin recital continuing a series of local artist appearances.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Wesley Memorial
W. A. Lambeth
Wesley Memorial Methodist Church
Young People's Department
Virginia Frank
Lebanon M P Church Plans Sunday Worship and Vote
Lebanon M P will conduct services at 9:15 Junior C E 9:45 Sunday school 11 preaching by Rev W Taylor 6:45 Intermediate and Senior C E 7:30 Women’s Auxiliary program featuring the Chisholm Sisters A church hut building vote will be held at the morning service and a favorable majority is needed All members urged to attend the public is invited.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Lebanon M. P
C. E
Central Friends Church Plans Sunday Services
Horace Hawworth will supervise graded classes starting 9 45 a m with Brotherhood class led by D H Parsons. Rev Tom A Sykes preaches at 11 a m on If You Have Not the Spirit of Christ. Evening talk What Is the Biggest Thing in Your Life led by Sykes with Brotherhood chorus singing. Friday 7 30 p m Senior and Junior Co E groups hold program in their rooms.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Central Friends Bible
Horace Haworth
Brotherhood
D. H. Parsons
Tom A. Sykes
Christ
Miss Blair
Fidler
Sykes
Looking In The Right Direction At Green Street Baptist
Green Street Baptist Church will hold Sunday School at 9 30 tomorrow morning directed by Superintendent B G Leonard. Rev J M Hilliard will lead both morning and evening worships with the morning theme Looking In The Right Direction and the evening theme Trusting in the Lord.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Green Street Baptist
Green Street Baptist Church
B. G. Leonard
J. M. Hilliard
Ward Street Archdale Church Services Proclaimed
Services at Archdale church at 11 o clock with subject Live Dis ciples. Ward street 7 o clock service carries Prepare to Meet Thy God. Sunday School at 9 45 o clock at both churches. Public invited.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Ward Street
Archdale
First Wesleyan Methodist Church Hosts Guest Speaker
Rev. Dewey O. Miller of Hendersonville N C addresses young people at seven o'clock tomorrow night. Sunday School is at 9 45 with A R Tucker in charge. Rev J L Sisk fills the eleven o'clock sermon. Wesleyan Young People societies from nearby communities meet tomorrow at two with a quartet and solos. Public invited.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
First Wesleyan Methodist
Dewey O. Miller
Hendersonville
N. C
First
Wesleyan Methodist Church
A. R. Tucker
J. L. Sisk
Wesleyan Young People’s Societies
First Baptist SermonTeases Strength and Beauty Theme
Dr A B Conrad pastor of The First Baptist church announces the sermon subject Strength and Beauty for his next service. The notice hints at spiritual reflections and a focus on character and faith in the church program.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
First Baptist
A. B. Conrad
First Baptist Church
Thirty Days That Rocked the Nation Review
The piece surveys Day Four and Day Five on February 17 18 with notes on a tense Arkansas House caucus signaling repeal passage and state handling of liquor. It contrasts Nebraska farmer protests at Lincoln and Michigan bank strains amid quiet bank withdrawals and waning public alarm.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Willis Thornton
NEA Service
Arkansas
Nebraska
Lincoln
Michigan
Detroit
True To His Work Even Unto Death
In Copenhagen Arnfast, editor of the Aarhusposten, died by his own hand at 6 A M just before the noon edition. He left a note stating he could not earn a decent living honestly and that the paper would learn of his death with the news he wrote.
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Copenhagen
Denmark
Arnfast
Aarhusposten
Sunday church activities and services announced
The church schedules a morning Bible school at 9 45 with classes for all ages. A solo by Miss Margaret Sloan is planned for the morning service and evening services include Satisfying Water at 11 o'clock and youth meetings at 630 P M The W M S meets Monday at 3 o'clock with sixteen Greensboro girls appearing and a social to follow The prayer service is on Wednesday at 730 P M An invitation is extended to non worshippers to attend any service.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Margaret Sloan
Greensboro
Jail keys found at Alleghany outlaw home
In Winston Salem on February 17 police report finding a complete set of Alleghany county jail keys in the home of Ransom Brooks, alleged leader of a regional gang. Also recovered watches auto parts tires jewelry a cash register and a typewriter as investigators link the group to raids and an auto theft ring across Blue Ridge counties.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Winston-Salem
Ransom Brooks
Alleghany
Alleghany County
Charles Farmer
State Highway Patrol
L. P. Harris
State
Lieut. Croom
Greensboro
Department of Justice
Blue Ridge County
Carrick Service Station Certificates Declared
Postmaster O R York announced yesterday afternoon that the Carrick Service Station and H L Parrish were awarded sign certificates. The notice confirms certification details and the entities approved under the program.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
O. R. York
Carrick
H. L Parrish
President Banks Headed for Principle in Bankhead Bill
President advocates principle in Bankhead cotton bill. He says the measure would prevent chiseling by farmers not joining voluntary acreage reductions and would discourage overproduction. Senator Bankhead notes limited foreign competition, citing Argentina and Egyptian and Indian cotton as non-competing or inferior to U S cotton.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Bankhead
Kleberg
D.tex
Argentina
Rites Held For Mrs. Joe E. Hill At Mitchells Grove
Funeral services for Mrs. Joe E. Hill were held at Mitchells Grove M. P. Church with a large turnout. The rites were led by Rev. J. T. Williams Rev. E. W. Jones and Rev. D. D. Broom. Pallbearers included Will McGhee Robert Young Edward Jordan A. L. Stevenson Frank Gladden J. S. Ingram. Flower bearers listed. Interment followed at Mitchells Grove cemetery.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Joe E. Hill
Guilford County
Mitchell's Grove M. P
J. T. Williams
E. W. Jones
Hickory Chapel Wesleyan Methodist Church
D. D. Broom
Henderson
N. C
Will McGhee
Robert Young
Edward Jordan
A. L. Stevenson
Frank Gladden
J. S. Ingram
Margaret Bowman
Fannie Bowman
Lillian King
Bessie Cashatt
Pearle Frazier
Hazel Myres
Verna Cashatt
Agatha Misenheimer
Dorothy Misenheimer
Mary Wall
Callie Billings
Ira Mae Kersey
Dasie Wall
Keara Holton
Ruth Day
Mitchell’s Grove Cemetery
Death by Own Action Verdict in Union Case
A coroner's jury at Union returned a death by own action verdict for Mattie Lee Inman 14 daughter of the late Dr and Mrs Henry Inman after viewing the body found fatally shot through the abdomen with a rifle.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
UNION
8. C
Mattie Lee Inman
Henry Inman
Post Office Fight Over Title Sparks Valley Dispute
Grimshames Cashiers valley post office trims its pride as Uncle Sam’s smallest but a dispute emerges when Mrs Mack Stewart postmistress of the Bessie office claims her mail depot sits in a cubbyhole on her front porch and seeks the official title.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Cashiers
Grimshawes
Cashiers Valley
Uncle Sam
Mack Stewart
No Settlement Reached in Spindle Strike at Stonecutter Mills
Spindale February 17. No settlement reached today in the strike of 75 workers at Stonecutter Weaving mills. Workers walked out earlier this week citing heavy workloads. Deputy sheriffs guarded the mill after threats of active picketing. no disorders reported so far.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Spindale
Cal merchant signs certificate of compliance
A California merchant has signed the certificate of compliance with the Presidents Reemployment evens.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Cal Merchant
Austrian Socialist Leader Denounces Use of Artillery
Julius Deutsch, Austrian Socialist commander, denounces government artillery against Socialist strongholds in Vienna’s civil conflict. He fled to Bratislava wounded and questions the death toll, suggesting thousands may have died while criticizing the government for attacking apartment houses.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Bratislava
Czzechoslovakia
Austria
Julius Deutsch
Deutsch
Socialist Party
Associated Press
Dr. Deutsch
Rieve to Speak at City Meeting Monday Night
Emil Rieve president of the American Federation of Hosiery Workers will address an open meeting Monday night at 7 30 in the Central Labor Union hall on North Wrenn street announced by Henry I Adams local representative of the A F H W Rieve who spoke here yesterday then went to Belmond after addressing Hatch Full Fashioned Hosiery Mill workers in Belmont which had been idle for a week following a strike Tonight he will speak in Salisbury and join a convention of textile and hosiery workers from across the state
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Emil Rieve
American Federation of Hosiery Workers
Rieve
Salisbury
Absence of Operators Delays Alcohol Syndicate Inquiry
Bragg ran alcohol pool operations through Smith’s account 296 at W E B Hutton and Company. Pecora hints at resuming hearings Tuesday. Russell R. Brown says officers secretly backed a 40 000 share stock issue, with Bragg leading the syndicate and others acting as fronts.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Bragg
Smith
W. EB. Hutton and Company
Pecora
Russell R. Brown
American Commercial Alcohol Corporation
Brown
K. B. Phagan
Cc. C. Capdevielle
R. H. Grimm
Philip Publicker
H. 8. Brown
L. B. Manning
E. L. Cord
Roof Fire Near Willowbrook Street Brief Fire Extinguished
Firemen raced to 423 Willowbrook Street at about 7 am to douse a roof fire. Damage was negligible and no injuries were reported.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Willowbrook Street
Not the Same Reynolds Seeks Clarification
John Reynolds of Washington Street asks The Enterprise to note he is not the John Reynolds who faced Municipal Court earlier this week. The request underscores a mistaken identity involving a local case and clarifies his residence.
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John Reynolds
Washington Street
The
Enterprise
Pleuromonas jaculans Described As World’s Smallest Animal
A fragment notes Pleuromonas jaculans as a microscopic creature, claimed to be the smallest animal with a body under one three-thousandth of an inch long, though surrounding text is garbled and unclear.
Arrests of Willie Weaver and party Provoke City Police
Willie Weaver of 614 Undershill street was arrested on assault with a chair and resisted by seven officers and the night jailer. Junior White arrived to help and four more Negroes aided his escape attempts, prompting a larger roundup. Bonds set at 900 for Weaver and White, 300 for Medley family members, with multiple resisting arrest and interfering charges.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Willie Weaver
Underhill Street
Weaver
Junior White
Punch
White
Whits
Ernest Medley
Willie Medley
Claude Ewing
Mary Graham
Annual Educational and Birthday Rally at St Mark M E Church
St Mark M E church observes its annual educational and birthday rally with a series of educational sermons and guest pastors. Programs run February 12 through February 25 with multiple church leaders delivering services and choirs.
Ethiopia at the Bar of Justice staged for Negro History Week
The seventh grade class at Leonard school presented Ethiopia at the Bar of Justice to mark Negro History Week in High Point. The play drew strong audience reaction as characters plead before the Bar of Justice, praised as a true depiction of American race problems. Fairview boys basketball to face Reidsville Monday at 8:00 on the Fairview court.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Ethiopia
Bar of Justice
High Point
Leonard School
Fairview
Reidsville
Ex-Pennites Club to Sponsor Negro History Week Program
The Ex-Pennites club voted to observe Negro History Week at its regular meeting. Prof. W. L. Gibbs of A. and T. College Greens boro will speak on Negro history at 3 30 Sunday afternoon at the First Baptist church.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Ex-Pennites Club
Talmes Moore
W. L. Gibbs
College of Arts and Science
A. & T. College
Greensboro
First Baptist Church
Prizes Awarded in Negro History Test at Fairview
A Negro History test for grades 4 through 7 yielded thirty two perfect scores. After elimination, first prize went to Saesar Chatman and second prize to Ruby Fussello both of Leonard Street School. First prize was the book African Myths by Dr Carter G Woodson and second prize a framed portrait of distinguished Negroes.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Fairview
Leonard St
Saesar Chatman
Ruby Fussello
Carter G. Woodson
I W A Meetings at Highland and Pickett Mills
Tonight at seven o clock all workers of the Highland and Pickett mills are invited to a meeting at the I W A hall with D W Bradley as speaker. Members and non-members may attend. Sunday afternoon from two to four there is a singing at the hall and the public is invited.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Highland and Pickett Mills
D. W. Bradley
Autumn Driest Season Notes Rain Patterns
A clipped observation states autumn is the driest season while summer, not spring, is the rainiest in the United States, reflecting regional climate variability and seasonal shifts.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
United States
Joint convention gathers hosiery and textile workers in Salisbury
National labor leaders and more than 600 workers convene in Salisbury for a two day joint meeting of hosiery and textile union locals. Emil Rieve predicts a 30 to 32 hour work week within six months as the NRA remains in place. Speakers include George Googe Francia J. Gorman and Louise McLaren.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Salisbury
North Carolina
Emil Rieve
Philadelphia
American Federation of Hosiery Workers
National Hosiery Code Authority
George Googe
Atlanta
William Green
American Federation of Labor
Francia J. Goreman
United Textile Workers Union
Louise McLaren
Affiliated
School For Workers
Lawrence Hogan
Burlington
Hosiery Workers Union
Henry I. Adams
Sartori Speaks at Moose supper in Greensboro
Albert J. Sartori of Spokane headlined a Moose supper in Greensboro with state and national dignitaries present. He praised Southern fraternal unity, highlighted Mooseheart and Moosehaven, and lauded the local lodge’s progress as guests from North Carolina lodges and Legion members looked on. Charles W. McAnally served as toastmaster.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Albert J. Sartori
Spokane
Washington
Loyal Order of Moose
North Carolina
Sartori
South
America
Moose Lodge
Mooseheart
Order
Moosehaven
Triggett Giles
Legion of the Loyal Order of Moose
Washington, D. C
Robert Varnon
Greensboro
Hewitt
Winston Salem Lodge
Miles
Tar Heel Legion of
George Younce
Greensboro Lodge
Klutter
North Star
Tar Heel Legion
Danville
Charles W. McAnally
Protests Over Foreign Air Mail Contracts Persist
Philpp Johnson president of United Airlines says contracts were won by competitive bidding and not collusion. T A A counsel Smith says the firm would carry mails free for 380 days and endure any penalties. Judge Knox notes the case targets the United States and declines jurisdiction without consent to sue.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Philpp
Johnson
Nited Airlines
Farley
Smith
Charles A. Lindbergh
New York
John C. Knox
United States
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M. E. Church
Farriss Avenue
Main
Masons
Call Communication
KH. T. Howard
W. M
M. Gueth
Sec
Max Bones
N. Main St
High Point Ice and Coal CO
Emmanuel Lutheran
Christian Science
Church OF God
N. Main Baptist
A. H. Jeffers
L. E. Lowe
N. E. Russell
D. A. Brooks
L. L. Lavender
League of Nations
Manchuria
Central Labor Union Hall
Colored News
Church News
St. Mark M. FE
Boy Scouts
A. & T. College Glee Club
L. A. Brown
Brook
Brook's Memorial
J. E. Melton
Calvary Baptist Church
C. H. White
Cherry Street Presbyterian Church
F. R. Mason
J. F. Dunn
St. Stephens Metropolitan A. M. E. Zion
Mr. Phelps
St. Paul M. BE
Church of
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