Boehne’s tough line and Newlin’s provocation in Indiana
The piece discusses Indianapolis editor Warren Worth Bailey and Vincennes papers, noting Evansville Mayor Boehne threatens to close saloons for noncompliance with the law after January first. It attacks Boehne as vain, cites C E Newlin’s prohibitionist tactics, and recounts Mitch ell marshal Enoch Cheek nearly assaulting Newlin in Mitchell.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Warren Worth’. Bailey
Indianapolis
Vincennes
C. E. Newlin
Indiana
Newlin
Enoch Cheek
Mitchell
Cheek
Co. E. Newlin
Masked bandits rob Linden station and steal $506 in cash
Eight masked men held up the Monon station at Linden night action seizing agent Tesse Williams tied and gagged him, blew the safe, and took $506.28 in cash and railroad papers before riding off. Sheriff deputies and Monon officials pursued, but band split up with unclear identities as the chase spread.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Linden
Hin
Lafayette
Chicago
Indianapolis
Non
Johnson
Mononan
Democratic tax law of 1891 and sinking fund critique
Vincennes contends the 1891 tax law was not revenue making but for equalizing taxes, while praising Republican governance for debt payments and fee receipts. It claims Democratic years yielded $291,854 in net fees versus $1,242,454 under Republican rule, highlighting alleged fiscal differences.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Vincennes
Padgett Says Demand for Taggart Resignation Rises
The Indianapolis Star quotes Alvin Padgett noting no demand for Taggart to retire beyond what Republican newspapers report. Democratic and independent papers largely call for his resignation, while the Sullivan Times in Padgett’s district criticizes Taggart’s continued domination and hints at an early retirement.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Taggart
Independent Press
Padgett
Sullivan Times
Jackman Family Reunion Near West Baden and Shoals
A Jackman family reunion was held at J M Jackman’s home with thirty people including J M Jackman W O D and A S Jackman and Mrs Ella Scarlett sister of Hagerstown Indiana. Attendees shared memories sang old songs and enjoyed a meal while group photos were taken by Ray Palmer. The gathering linked descendants of Albert and Hannah Jackman who lived near West Baden at the Civil War era.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
J. M. Jackman
J.M
W.od
A. S.jackman
Ella
Scarlett
Hagerstown
Albert
Hannah Jackman
West Baden
Murfersboro
Stone
Martin County
Ray Palmer
Kipe
U. B. Church
Knipe
Enj
Miri
J. H. Scarlett
Jackman
Shoals
Egsie Bedster
Charles ‘Scarlett
Indianapolis
W. D. Jackman
Washington
Charles Jackman
J. Tidd
G. K. Gilley
Thomas Williams
City
Insurance loss total peaks at 132 million in San Francisco
The New York superintendent of insurance cites an investigation into the San Francisco loss placing the total at 132,823,067. The combined insured value across all companies is listed at 222,36,307.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Insurance of
New York
Sa Francisco
Jackson window unveiled in Roanoke church memory
A handsome memorial window honoring General Stonewall Jackson was unveiled at a Roanoke Virginia church. The pastor attended a Sunday school session led by the Confederate commander’s memory.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Stonewill Jackson
Roanoke
Fractured Skull Fatality Shocks Louisville Transit Spot
Anthony Winter of a prominent St. Louis family was found with a fractured skull on the Louisville station platform at First and the river after a Sunday incident. The discovery at the L and N platform near the river involved a high profile local figure.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Anthony Winter
St. Louis
Louisville
Troops Mutiny in Pottava Russia Reported
A battalion mutinied near Pottava in Russia and fought loyal soldiers. Several men were killed before the mutineers were captured. A postal car incident is mentioned in the chaotic event.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Sar Pottava
Russia
Everal Men
Robbery Near Warsaw Seized $110 000
A Saturday night robbery near Warsaw yielded $110 000 in cash. Police believe the suspects secured the loot and fled the scene.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Warsaw
Bedford mayor hears Mitchell riot cases postponed
Several Mitchell riot defendants appeared before Bedford's mayor Saturday with judgments deferred to the next Saturday. Defendants Joe Tracy George Terrell Ajex Joe Stevens James Clouse remain out on bond. Henry Love’s case was dismissed for acting to quell the disturbance. Frank Gault remains the only rioting defendant yet to be tried. Jesse Knochs was brought over Friday and jailed on a conspiracy charge to be heard later. Most defendants also face conspiracy to murder charges tied to July Fourth events.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Mitchell
Bedford
Joe Tracy
George Terrell
Ajex
Joe Stevens
James Clouse
Henry Love
Frank Gault
Jesse Knochs
Indiana G A R report highlights posts and finances
The semi annual G A R report sent to Washington shows 14 309 veterans in good standing in Indiana across 399 posts. In the year 240 veterans were fed 403 suspended 150 mustered in 126 transferred and 339 reinstated. Post property valued at 104263 84 dollars total receipts 63888 72 disbursements 61829 03 charity expenditure 560 74.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Indiana Department
Washington
J. R. Fesler
Indiana
Johnson and Mitchell Hil wed in Jeffersonville home
A. Johnson son of James M. Johnson of Cosby street and Miss Beryle Mitchell Hil married at the bride's mother Mrs. J. C. Rous home in Jeffersonville township Thursday night. The groom, known in Washington and southern county, studied at Bloomington and Indianapolis, works as a telegraph operator, and plans to live in Idaho with his bride.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Weak A. Johnson
James M. Johnson
Cosby Street
Beryle Mitchell Hil
J. C. Rous
Jeffersonville
Washington
Bloomington
Indianapolis
Idaho
Tragedy Near Vincennes: Pedestrian Hit by Train Switch
Harl Shelburn, 25, of Petersburg, was struck by a switch engine of J. B. and O. Southwestern at Vincennes after sitting on the track near McDonald's lumber yard. He suffered a scalp cut and hip bruise. Dr. T. H. Maxedon treated wounds. Gardiner's ambulance conveyed him to a hospital.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Harl Shelburn
Petersburg
Southwestern
Aseline
Vincennes
Shelburn
McDonald’s Lumber Yard
T. H. Maxedon
Gardner
Anani
Injured woman hurt leading fractious horse
Mrs Bridget Lundergan of Barr fowdship was badly injured last week while guiding a horse to water. The horse suddenly jerked the halter rope, wrenching her hand severely and nearly tearing it free.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Bridget Lundergan
Barr Fowdship
Peru president seeks Pan American basis for friendship
President Pardo of Peru asks Congress to support a regional approach to settling international disputes on a basis of friendship and equity. He notes shared South American interests and says the principles will be discussed at the Pan American Conference.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Pardo
Peru
Congress
Big Increase in Indiana Corporate Property Valuations
The state tax board of Indiana reports a 16.4 million dollar rise in corporate property valuations. The Louisville and Jeffersonville Bridge Company sees its assessment jump from 12500 to 700000 dollars.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
State Tax Board
Indiana
Louisville and Jeffersonville Bridge Company
Found After Death Inquiries Lead to Relative Ads
After ten years of disappearance, John Oldwell’s family in New Albany Indiana learned of his death through advertisements in a local paper. Relatives located the grave via a public notice and a series of classified ads.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
John Oldwell
New Albany
Indiana
Elizabeth Acton and Miss Cyrillus Relocate to Liverpool
Elizabeth Acton and her daughter Miss Cyrillus are moving to Liverpool to reside. They recently relocated from their former home to this city.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Elizabeth Acton
Daugh Miss Cyrillus
Lbpsootee
Aygved
Three Drownings Reported After Lake Incident
Three people drowned and three survived when a sailboat capsized on Lake Fopatcoaz in New York Sunday. Rescuers saved three others from the water.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
iPhide
Lake Fopatcoaz
N. Y
Woman abducted at Centralia party rescued
Mrs Oliver George was abducted by unknown men during a party in Centralia Illinois and was later rescued.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Oliver George
Centralia, Til
Mountaineer Caudill Dying in Letcher County Home
Stephn J Caudill a noted Kentucky mountaineer dies at his home in Letcher County after long illness. Family and local residents mourn as doctors bid him farewell.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Stephn J. Caudill
Kentucky
Fatal Shooting in Vincennes During Mussel Camp Rivalry
Willam Kepping a 31 year old mussel digger and member of Kepping Brothers of Vincennes was fatally shot by Walter Johnson 19 at a mussel camp along the river. Johnson was captured near daybreak and jailed in Knox County. Kepping died Monday after surgeons failed to remove the bullet.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Pearl and Shell
Kepping Brothers
Vincennes
Walter Johnson
Anna Bell
James Gee
Kepping
Russellville
Johnson
Knox County
Wabash
Wedding at Mitchell Bridges Past and Present Love
The Bedford Democrat notes a Mitchell wedding at the Moore home featuring Harriet Hyatt Parker, sister of Mrs. Moore, and Rev. Charles Hudson of Frankfort Kentucky. Hudson, formerly at Franklin, wooed Parker while she was once widowed after a brief first marriage to Parker. They departed Saturday for a wedding trip aboard the Monon line.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Bedford Democrat
Harriet Hyatt Parker
Henry H. Hyatt
Bedford
E. L. Moore
Mitchell
Moore
Charles Hudson
Christian Church
Frankfort
Mr. Hudson
Franklin
Monon
Hudson
Miss Hyatt
Parker
Socialists Nominate Full Ticket at Raglesville Convention
The Socialists met at Wadsworth Grove near Ringlesville and named a full ticket led by Joint Senator Adam C. McFadden of Plainville and Zimti M. Garten of Odon for prosecutor. Henry P. Herr of Washington as clerk and Ira A. Correll of Odon as auditor headline a slate that includes John Wadsworth for treasurer, Micheal M. Zinkan for recorder, John A. Overton for sheriff, Thomas S. Wirt for assessor, John S. Robinson for surveyor, C. F. Ageton for coroner, Wesley M. French for commissioner of the Second District, John L. Garten for commissioner of the Third District, and Harry Bray of Washington for district posts. About 200 attended. From nearby areas, Herr, Zinkan and Bray were present. Stephen M. Reynolds spoke in the afternoon as state party secretary.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Wadsworth Grove
Rnnglesville
Adam C. McFadden
Plainville
Zimti M. Garten
Odon
Henry P. Herr
Washington
Ira A. Correll
John Wadsworth
Raglesville
Micheal M. Zinkan
John A. Over
Stephen M. Reynolds
Terre Haute
Henry Herr
Michael Zinkan
Harry Bray
Meteor over Evansville Lights Night Sky
A large meteor raced across Evansville at about 9 10 Friday night dazzling observers on horseback. It exploded near the outskirts with a loud boom causing fear among local residents including Black inhabitants who prayed, while others searched for the falling object. The body appeared to be tall about fifty feet in length.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Evansville
Contempt Discussion Roils Indiana Political Circles
The piece describes a furor among Democratic leaders over possession of Pijito chips held by Governor Hanly J W Holtzman and W R Hearst. It notes debates on citing them for contempt of court and mocks the idea while detailing officials’ reactions and claims about how chips were obtained and circulated.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Hanly
J. W. Holtzman
W. R. Hearst
Buskirk
Holtzisian
Hearst
French Lick
West ‘Baden
Eledt
C. C. Hadley
Hadley
Het
Deel
Pluto
Death of Malacha Madden in Barr Township
Malacha Madden of Barr township died Friday night from tuberculosis of the foot at age thirty five. He was never married and died at his mother Mrs Helen Madden widow of Joan Madden home. Funeral services were held Sunday morning at St Marys church Barr township with interment at St Marys cemetery.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Malacha Madden
Barr Township
Helen Madden
Joan Madden
Sts Marys Church
Buring
St. Marys Cemetery
Tragic Discovery: Mrs. Laurie Foy Hangs in Fremont Barn
The body of sixty year old Mrs. Laurie Foy was found hanging from barn rafters near Fremont Nebraska. The fall through the loft caused her dress to snag on nails leaving her suspended head downward until rescue efforts ended.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Laurie Foy
Freemont
Neb
Thayer to Resign From B and O Board
Rumor says John B. Thayer of Philadelphia, fourth vice president of the Pennsylvania Railroad, plans to resign as a director of the Baltimore and Ohio at the executive committee meeting to be held in New York on August 2.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
New York
Baltimore
Ohio
City
John B. Thayer
Philadelphia
Pennsylvania
Iain
B. &Jd
Eight Drownings After Yachts Capsize Near Anglesea
Eight persons drowned when two yachts capsized near Anglesea New Jersey. Captain Henry S. Ludlow and his Hereford Inlet life saving crew heroically saved many lives.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Anglesea
N. J
Henry S. Ludlow
Hereford Inlet
Rev Mr Laye Recovered. Returns to Church Services
Evansville Courier reports the Rev. Mr. Laye pastor of the First Christian church has recovered from illness and will resume services in the church.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Evansville
Laye
First Christian Church
Preacher Killed in Carbide Tank Explosion
The Rev. D. I. Lewis former pastor of the Christian church at Qodont was instantly killed at Greenfield Thursday night by the explosion of a twenty gallon tank of calcium carbide. His helper, George McMeenus, was killed and his son, Harry E. Lewis, was badly shocked.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
D. I. Lewis
The
Christian Church
Qodont
Greenfield
George McMeenus
Harry E. Lewis
Arrests on Grand Jury Indictments Inked
Louis Padgett and Ertle Wadélof Elnora were arrested on grand jury indictments. Padgett charged with selling without a license and Wadélof Elnora for failing to a minor.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Louis Padgett
Ertle Wadélof Elnora
Meteor Falls in Warrick County Near Ohio River
A meteor passed over Evansville and northern Kentucky and apparently fell in Warrick County near the Ohio River. Geologists confirm the impact location in Warrick County based on observed trajectory and debris.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Meteor
Warrick
Evansville
Kentucky
Boonville
Warrick County
Ohio River
Bissey Family Reunion Near Cornettsville
H. K. Bissey and family of Velpin joined Newton Holton and family of Algiers at a Bissey family reunion near Cornettsville.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
H. K. Bissey
Velpin
Newton Holton
Algiers
Bissey
Cornettsville
Two Men Die in Vincennes Paper Plant Boiler Explosion
A blast tore through the Vincennes Paper plant on the Wabash riverfront early Monday, killing Harry Borders and Lafe Lichman and seriously injuring Arthur Callins. John Durks and others were nearby as debris shattered windows and toppled structures.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Vincennes
Wabash River
Loflers
National Rolling Mills
Harrison
Edward Shepherd
Harry Borders
W. A. Borders
Lafe Lichman
Arthur Callins
Western Union
Borders
Lichéwan
EB. R
Stocker Morgue
B. & O. Southwestern
Doctors seek to shame nonpayers with blacklist plan
At a Daviess county medical society meeting a committee was appointed to prepare a blacklist of residents who do not pay their family doctor bills. The physicians discussed this plan about three years ago and revived it to pressure debtors.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Washington
Daviess County Medical Society
Mit
County plan aims to protect doctors and families
The text notes a countywide protocol prepared for every physician to ensure safeguarding of medical staff against mistreatment and to uphold professional integrity within the medical community.
Canning Factory Set to Open Next Tuesday
The first work at the cannery will begin next Tuesday with tomato canning for two months. Pumpkins to be canned around November. This year 120 acres of tomatoes produced a record crop with unusually large, uniform fruit. About seventy workers will be employed, forty women and thirty men, peeling and processing tomatoes while others handle remaining tasks. Work likely to end mid December.
Schofield Family Reunion at Maysville
The Schofield family gathered at the home of Mr and Mrs Robert Schofield Sr in Maysville on Sunday for a reunion. After dinner the group walked to the river and attendees included several Schofields, Mrs Alice Bailey, Mrs Alice Schultz and daughter Gladys of Cincinnati, Mr and Mrs Samuel Schofield, Mr and Mrs Joseph Schofield, Mr and Mrs John Gathenby of North Hampton Mississippi, and Mae Schofield Pearl Treon and Ruby Russell.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Schofield
Maysville
Robert Schofield
Alice Bailey
Samuel Schofield
Joseph Schofield
Alice Schultz
Gladys
Cincinnati
John Gathenby
North Hampton, Mess
Mae Schofield
Pearl Treon
Ruby Russell
Mrs. Corey Granted Divorce and Child Custody in Reno
Mrs. William Ellis Corey wife of United States Steel president was granted a divorce and custody of their son at Reno Nevada. She testified that she and her husband had agreed on a financial settlement through their attorneys. A sister of the defendant said he was not fit for custody due to an infatuation with New York’s fast life.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
William Ellis Corey
United States Steel Corporation
Reno
Nev
Miss Florence Jordon Enters Deaconess Home in Fairfield
Miss Florence Jordon daughter of Rev. J J Jordon of Elmore township left Tuesday for Fairfield to enter a deaconess home of the M E Church. She was accompanied to Seymour by her brother Elmer Jordon who will return to Mitchell for a short visit.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Florence Jordon
J. J. Jordon
Elmore
Tneday
Fairfield
Ann
M. E. Church
Seymour
Elmer Jordon
Mitchell
Ambassasdor George L. Meyer to Succeed Bonaparte as Navy Secretary
George L. Meyer, ambassador to Russia, is said to be the choice to succeed Charles J. Bonaparte as secretary of the navy. Moody, the attorney general, plans to retire from President Roosevelt's cabinet to return to law practice.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
George L. Meyer
Russia
Charles J. Bonaparte
Navy
Mr. Bonaparte
Moody
Roosevelt
William J. Ryan to Outline Campaign Issues in New York
In New York at Madison Square Garden on August 30 William J. Ryan will outline his conception of the issues to guide the next Democratic national campaign. The address signals a broad policy framework and campaign strategy.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
New York
William J. Ryan
Madison Square
Gardan
Hately Appeals Dowie Followers for Zion City Relief
John C Hately receiver for Zion City Industries called on wealthy followers of Dowie doctrine to donate to relief efforts for the destitute in the community.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
John C.hately
Zion Quity Industries
Comedian John Lawrence Toole Dead at Brighton
English comedian John Lawrence Toole died in Brighton. Dickens once advised him to take the stage as a profession while he worked as a wine house clerk.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
John Lawrence Toole
Charles Dickens
Brighton
England
Special court to try Negro charged with Mrs Broughton murder
Barbourville Kentucky convenes a special term of court next Monday to try the Negro accused in the killing of Mrs Broughton. Troops will be stationed to prevent lynching.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Barbourville
Broughton
Irish cottage bill advances in Lords after amendments
The Irish laborers' cottage bill passed the committee stage in the British House of Lords. Amendments opposed by the government were carried by large majorities before the bill progressed.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
House of Lords
Switzerland France reach understanding on commercial treaty
An understanding has been reached between Switzerland and France on a commercial treaty. The status quo remains in force until November 20.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Switzerland
France
T. P. A. Picnic At Shoals August 25
The T. P. A. will stage the First Annual Summer Picnic at Shoals with headquarters at Vincennes. The event is set for August 25 and aims to bring members together for a community outing.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Post H
Vincennes
Shoals
Georgia Senate Passes Child Labor Bill
The Georgia state senate approved the child labor bill without opposition on Monday. The measure now awaits the signature of Governor Terrell to become law.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Georgia State Senate
House Child Labor Bi
Terrell
Mutual Life Officer Declines Reelection
Hamilton McK Twombly declines reelection to the Mutual Life Insurance company’s administration ticket, according to a New York paper. Twombly’s decision alters leadership plans for the insurer ahead of upcoming governance actions.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Hamilton McK. Twombly
New York
Mutual Life Insurance Company
Telephone Lineman Alleges Deception In Damage Suit
Alleges he was deceived into signing an unconditional release after an on the job accident in Terre Haute in which a rotten pole caused a electric shock leaving him paralyzed. He seeks 30000 damages from Central Union Telephone Co citing misrepresentation and medical expenses. Company counters the injuries resulted from his own negligence and says a settlement of 192.94 closed the matter.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
United States District Court
Norval G. Little
Central Union Telephone Company
Daviess
Little
Tlephone
Liftte
Liftie
Indiana melon crop acreage varies across counties
Indiana farmers raise watermelons and cantaloupes with Vigo Knox Gibson and Spencer counties reporting the largest acreages. Vigo has 2084 acres of watermelons, Gibson 1962, Knox 1098, Spencer 1172. Sullivan 985. Daviess Posey DeKalb show smaller totals. Marion adds 34 acres of watermelons and 148 of cantaloupes. Canteloupes are notably strong in Glen Gibson and surrounding counties.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Indiana
Joseph H. Stubbs
State Bureau of Statistics
Vigo
Knox
Gibson
Spencer
Sullivan County
Daviess
Posey
DeKala
Marion County
Cantaloupes
Glbgon County
Arg
Sullivan
Davies
Taggart Eyes Elms Hotel Site Purchase in Excelsior Springs
Thomas Taggart, Democratic National Committee chair, holds an option on the Elms hotel site near Kansas City Missouri. The deal requires building a hotel of under 200 rooms and maintaining the surrounding twenty acres. Excelsior Springs, once famed for gambling, faces renewed scrutiny as a grand jury is urged by Governor Folk over alleged gambling linked to Democratic convention attendees.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Thomas Taggart
National Committee
Excelsior S Rings
Kansas City
Taggart
Folk
Grain crops seen abundant despite scarcity talk
Reports on grain crop conditions indicate no scarcity this season and that crops will be among the heaviest in years with strong demand expected.
Explosion kills two in Marysville Tennessee cabin
A dynamite blast near a cabin in Marysville Tennessee killed two Black men and startled residents who heard the explosion and found the structure destroyed.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Marysville
Tenn
Man Confesses Assault as Mob Forms in Louisville
Allen Matthews, described as a negro, admits to an assault on Ethel McLane at Mayfield, Kentucky. He was brought to Louisville Sunday as a mob gathered.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Allen Matthews
Ethel McLane
Mayfield
Louisville
Cape
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the Times
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