January thaw brings muddy roads and high streams in Warren
Our January thaw last week made muddy roads and raised streams to a high stage with the Allegheny river at nine feet Saturday. Ice was harvested before the thaw, leaving time for a big crop before robins nest again. Methodist street lamp in front of First M E Church praised as better lighting than electric. Warren Odd Fellows to open top-story rooms in Beaty block with parlor and dining spaces. Sanderson & Thomas busy painting and decorating.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Allegheny
M. E
Warren Odd Fellows
Second Street
Sanderson & Thomas
Republican primaries set for April seventh in four counties
The Republican county chairmen of Venango McKean Cameron and Warren counties met at Bradford and agreed to recommend Saturday April 7 as the primary date in each county. Primaries for Congressmen must be held on the same date across the district.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Venango
McKean
Cameron
Warren
Bradford
The American Girl at Library Hall by Geo. F. Hall
Geo. F. Hall presents The American Girl at Library Hall with a strong company. The comedy follows American girl grit through hardships. Two young actresses play key roles and win audience favor. Matinee 10 and 20 cents. evening 25 to 75 cents.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Library Hall
Geo. F. Hall
COLONIAL EXPANSION DISCUSSED AT SOCIAL SCIENCE CLUB MEETING
At a Warren Social Science Club gathering 21 members heard Col James C Parmlee discuss colonial expansion in depth. Refreshments followed the talk as members debated the topic with broad support for expansion. In the same issue Burgess candidate Henry Park was endorsed as Republican nominee for Warren borough.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Social Science Club
W. W. Davis
Jas. C. Parmlee
Farmers Institutes outline two-session program next week
Ackley on Monday and Chandlers Valley on Wednesday host condensed programs for Farmers Institutes. Speakers include W B Critchfield on Clover, farm horses, poultry, drainage, and Wm Frear on stable waste, clover rotations, bread, meat, and nature study. Luther Gates covers mechanical education and soil improvement. Local topics at Ackley and Chandlers Valley address orchard care, education, home nursing, dairying, and country home life.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Farmers’ Institutes
Ackley
Chandlers Valley
W. B. Critchfield
Wm. Frear
Luther Gates
R. J. Weld
Residence of Charles F Schwing Hazel Street for sale
The residence of Charles F Schwing on Hazel Street near Water is for sale. Call at his jewelry store for terms.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Charles F. Schwing
Hazel Street
Water
Desirable Farm for Rent in Warren with Smithy and Implements
Immediate possession offered by George Ball of Warren Pa. Farm advertised with Pudding sets and berry sets plus china and dishware. The Struthers Hotel Barn, run by John Stinger, will serve farmers with horses and transient guests. no livery on site. Wood chopping crews sought. C W Freeman, Kushequa foreman for Klisha Kane, offers $1.25 per cord for 50 inch logs and seeks 25 000 cords this season.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
George Ball
Warren, Pa
Struthers Hotel
John Stinger
C. W. Freeman
Kushequa
Klisha K. Kane
McNett Undertaking and Embalming Services
Notice states Mr and Mrs T W McNett offer dedicated funeral services with personal attention to funerals not affiliated with other businesses. Office phone 120k and residence 119k. night calls answered promptly. China cups and d saucers glasses and mugs BALUBO PAwesven avs.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
T. W. McNett
Local Notices and Social Updates From Warren County
Allen fits feet at 221 Liberty street and Mrs S W Waters hosts a luncheon on Thursday. Various townsfolk travel, attend church meetings, and celebrate or mourn events including a death, a health recovery, a wedding license, and a new bank paper. The Daily Mail notes banker activities, school staff additions, and local commerce updates.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Allen
Liberty Street
Tiona
Kinzua Bridge to be rebuilt and local projects spark activity
Franklin plans a paper mill with Gen Charles Miller backing the enterprise. In Randolph the town hosts eleven war study clubs. Chautauqua Assembly reports large natural gas flow at 350 feet powering lights and heat. Marriage in Custer City links Havens and Briggs in a 4th marriage for each. Oil City rail and trolley expansions, and a Tionesta lumber railroad charter boost regional industry.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Franklin
Charles Miller
Clarion Normal School
Randolph
N. Y
South Africa
Chautauqua Assembly
William Havens
Lewis Run
Mary J. Briggs
Bradford
Custer City
Save Doctors' Bills With Foley's Honey for Infants
Public notice urges use of Foley's Honey and Tak for infants and children to prevent pneumonia or croup, claiming these illnesses are fatal to many babies. Legal blanks available at the mail office.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Foley
Woman Claims Kidney Cure After Five Doctors Fail
Mrs Frances L Sales of Missouri Valley Iowa reports years of severe kidney trouble and unsuccessful treatment by five doctors until taking three bottles of Foley's Kidney Cure which she says effected a perfect cure.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Frances L. Sales
Missouri Valley
Iowa
Foley
Miss Agnes Abbott Visits Warren Friends
Miss Maude Williams married C. N. Rickerson of French Creek at the bride’s uncle S. C. Smith home by Rev. Perry of Busti. Twenty guests attended with a bountiful wedding supper. Borough council in Youngsville passes curfew ordinance. Osborne attended grandfather’s funeral in North Mills Mercer county. Mary Lilley returns to Johnsonburg school after vacation. Frank Pierson now resident of Seattle working on the Great Western Railroad. G A R open camp plans for February 12 to honor Lincoln with committees named.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Sugar Grove
Agnes Abbott
Warren
Maude Williams
C. N. Rickerson
French Creek
S. C. Smith
Rev. Perry
Busti
Youngsville
Osborne
North Mills
Mercer County
Mary Lilley
Johnsonburg
Frank Pierson
Seattle
Washington
Great Western Railroad
American Woman Health Claim Promoted By Barosma Ad
An advertisement asserts American women have degenerated health and promotes Thompson's Barosma as a remedy to refresh complexion, energy, and overall vigor. It claims the product strengthens all organs and builds up the system with pricing of $1 per bottle or six for $5 at druggists.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Thompson
Dinner Sets and Tableware Prices Highlighted
Dinner sets from 7.85 dollars at LaMPs and globes updated stock and sharp price drops. Fruit dishes china plates celery dishes offered across twenty fern dish styles.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Fehlman Bros
Miss Dell Richards Visits Cory And Local News
Jan 23 correspondence notes Miss Dell Richards of Cory visiting Uncle Jack Hughes and family. Eddie O Brian of New Castle Pa returns home after over a year away with the W N Y P R R Co. Fred Walters reports their West Virginia establishment is busy. Republican caucus nominates Olson Swanson Somers Gasper son and Preston Mead Weaver for local offices.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Dell Richards
Cory
Jack Hughes
Eddie O’brian
New Castle
Fred Walters
West Virginia
Frank Olson
Chas. A. Swanson
Geo. H. Somers
A. P. Gasperson
A. Preston
G. L. Mead
Mr. Weaver
Local Notes and Upcoming Cream Station in Colegrove District
January reports from Union City note Frank Burt visiting friends and Arthur Trantum in town for his mother’s illness. Local sick list shows gradual improvements. Prominent octogenarians seen in streets despite storms. A Colegrove cream station will be built this season by Frank Hardinger. James Hassett plans to move his meat market to Corry. Republican primaries were held last Saturday. L. C. Baker campaigns for Assembly nominating.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Frank Burt
Union City
Arthur Trantum
Jamestown
N. Y
Althea Trantum
W. B. Howard
S. D. Wilcox
Hall
Milton Skinner
Ben Dean
David O. Smith
Chauncy Spencer
Henry Tillotson
Colegrove
Frank Hardinger
James Hassett
Corry
L. C. Baker
Assembly
Local residents visit friends over the weekend
Ackley couple Mr and Mrs A J Walters were guests of H A Putnam and wife. H E Stanton and family called on friends. C W Stanton and Miss Minnie Hinsdale visited L H Phillips. Lillie M Ellis spent Sunday here. W S Marsh and D J Mahon entertained relatives. E C Rickerson and family from Russell spent Wednesday here. James Frizzle returned home from Jamestown Pa after clerking two years. C W King visited L P Scranton and wife. S L King and family called on Marshtown friends. Dr Cowden of North Warren was on the Hill. Asa Stanton of Marshtown visited parents.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
A. J. Walters
Ackley
H. A. Putnam
H. E. Stanton
C. W. Stanton
Marshtown
Minnie Hinsdale
Lansing Hill
L. H. Phillips
Lillie M. Ellis
North Warren
W.S. Marsh
Lander
D. J. Mahon
State Road
E. C. Rickerson
Russell
James Frizzle
Jamestown
C. W. King
L. P. Scranton
Snow Fervor, Celebrations Vary in Three Bridges
Jan 23 notes show Florence Borntrager and Nellie Fitch visiting Three Bridges, Mattie Meadon starting work at Maple Grove, and many youths attending Torpedo church. Eighth District residents report snow longing and a Cutter in town. Rev Fullam missed Sunday due to illness, L Blood back out, and Feldhausens celebrated their 14th wedding anniversary with forty guests including out of town friends Ray Morse Della Hull and George Green.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Florence Borntrager
Nellie
Rube Fitch
Three Bridges
W. F. Parker
Mattie Meadon
Maple Grove
Torpedo
C. Boyd
Erie
Eldred Centre
Mr. Fullam
L. Blood
Jacob Feldhausen
Ray Morse
Little Son
Chapel Hill
Della Hull
George Green
Grand Valley
Funeral Services for Nellie Wright Stuart Held at Home
Funeral services were held January 17 at the Wright family home for Nellie Wright Stuart who died January 13 after a long illness. Rev. Hamilton of Youngsville led the service with solos by Clyde Wright and Clyde Wilcox, and organ by Olive Wright. N. F. Wright rented his farm for five years to Mr. Wells and sold farming implements January 20. Thomas Yates remains ill. G. A. McArthur continues duties and listened to piano in Philadelphia. Hannah Marshal visited town. A. Wright comments on her as woodland. A wrecked cart appeared on Sunday morning and Nels Johnson, driving late Saturday, mistook hotel steps for road and was thrown out, but walked home.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
L. F. Watson
Philadelphia
Syms
Illustrated
Buffalo Express
R. H. Lynn
Pueblo
Colorado
Ada Grace Zittel
Warren
Jamestown Journal
A. M. Kent
Chapin Wetmore
Astatula
Florida
Franklin
D. I. Ball
May
Emil Lampe
Warren National Bank
Grandpa Meacham
Will J. McConnell
O’mara
Catherine
Ackley
Buffalo
Howe
Kane
Penn’a Bankers Association
D. L. Gerould
A. B. Kehr
George
Kehr
Fuellhart
Smutz
Tidioute
Warren’s
Janet Wilson
Edna Siggins
Inez Brownell
Shelmadine & Dunham
Shepherd Farm
Enterprise
Titusville Herald
National Association of Postmasters
Eben Brewer
Erie
United States
Cuba
Postoffice Department
Pennsylvania R. R. Co
Pennsylvania Division
Barsett
Boston
Keystone State
New York
Margaret C. Brownfield
Clearfield Two
Butler Co
Warren County
Citizens Traction Co
Oil City
Franklin Street Railway
Titusville
Pleasantville
State Department
Harrisburg
T. D. Collins
Mayburg
Sheffield
Tionesta Creek
Mr. C
Tionesta Republican
Lake Erie
Dunkirk
Olean
Salamanca
Wellsville
Hornellsville
Fayette County
California
Rainey
Beal Farm
Uniontown News
Nellie Wright Stuart
Mr. Hamilton
Youngsville
Valley of Rest
Clyde Wright
Clyde Wilcox
Olive Wright
N.F. Wright
Wells
Thomas Yates
Vern Price
West Virginia
Fred
G. A. McArthur
Hannah Marshal
A. Wright
Dora Akers Named New Graded School Teacher at Glade Row
Corydon report notes Miss Dora Akers elected to a position in the Glade Row graded school succeeding Miss Sig gins who left for Warren schools. Postmaster E D Everts had a frightening sleigh mishap on icy roads last Saturday when his horse spooked at the creamery turn and dumped riders onto the ice.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Corydon
Dora Akers
Glade Row
Glade
Siggins
Warren
Akers
E. D. Everts
Local notices and meetings fill Hollister week
Rev. Mr. Jones aids Protracted meetings in Barnes. L. C. T. M. installation praised with banquet. Measles suspends Miss Lela Hill’s Corydon schooling. Roy Schobey’s son born. Republican primaries list official nominations. Percy Marsh calms frightened horse at Kinzua. Meek events include L. O. T. M. officers, Young Peoples Aid gathering, and a fundraising Meade’s Hall Measuring party. Rumor says justice candidate offers free marriages with a kiss.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Lela Hill
Stickney
Corydon
Roy Schobey
J. M. Turney
R. H. Duntley
Jos. W. Berys
C. C. Flatt
John Odell
J. M. Green
C. D. Clawson
Benj. Crooks
Jeff Bowman
Jesse Morrison
Percy Marsh
Kinzua
Mr. Marsh
Miss Bennett
Cornplanter
Corydon School
Homer Marsh
Potter County
Glenn Tome
Doughty Bro’s
Nellie Lounsbury
Young Peoples’ Aid
Ida Forbes
Mead’s Hall
Justice
Local Notes From Sugar Grove Jan 23 Update
George Hall moves into the Jones house on West Main. William Dalton injured after being thrown from a load of hay. R. J. Weld travels to Harrisburg for the State Board of Agriculture meeting. Mrs. H. C. Leet of Jamestown visits Sugar Grove. Mrs. Martha Johnson returns from Freehold. Miss Ola Wright from Freehold visits Miss Carrie Cummings.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Sugar Grove
George Hall
Jones House
West Main Street
Wm. Dalton
R. J. Weld
Harrisburg
State Board of Agriculture
H. C. Leet
Jamestown
Dorcas Jagger
Martha Johnson
Freehold
Ola Wright
Carrie Cummings
Hall's Catarrh Cure Reward Ad Claims Cure
One hundred dollar reward offered for cures of catarrh not cured by Hall's Catarrh Cure. F J Cheney and Co Toledo owners. Endorsements from West Truax Walding Kinnan Marvin Toledo wholesale druggists. Cure taken internally. price 75 cents per bottle. testimonials free. Hall's Family Pills recommended.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Hall
F. J. Cheney & Co
Props
Toledo
F. J. Cheney
West & Truax
Walding, Kinnan & Marvin
Real Estate Transfers Week Ending January 24 1900
Malvina Easton et al to Jennie Allen Sheffield 1 Ellen Parker to R C Parker Farming ton 1 Gust Peters and wife to J W Peters Sugar Grove 314 Irena N Morgan to J D Morgan and wife Columbus 100 Margaret Graham Estate to Susan J Blackiner Pittsfield val con Arvilla E Brown et al to Robt Siggins Pittsfield 10 Susan J Blackiner to R A Siggins Pittsfield 250
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Malvina Easton
Jennie Allen
Sheffield
Ellen Parker
R.C. Parker
Farmington
Gust Peters
J. W. Peters
Sugar Grove
Irena N. Morgan
J. D. Morgan
Columbus
Margaret Graham
Susan J. Blackiner
Pittsfield
Val Con
Arvilla E. Brown
Robt. Siggins
KEHLMAN BROS Gas Portables and Chafing Dishes Ad
Gas portables for natural gas at KEHLMAN BROS. Buy before you see ours and you’ll regret it. Prices are very low. Also selling chafing dishes spoons forks and toasters.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Kehlman Bros
Fehlman Bros
Stage Notes From The Theatre World This Week
Marie Dressler acts in Fifteen Minutes In Shirt Waists while Mrs. Neil Burgess seeks bankruptcy relief for about 100000 dollars. London and Berlin stages announce Don Juan and operatic turns as Maude Adams plans Rosalind and Juliet in New York. ANew York theater maps changes for Johnnie renamed The Johnnies and Red Pottage adaptions. A frosty Snowman at Lyceum worries Frohman. Also a fireproof asbestos paper advances in lanterns and waterproofing.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Marie Dressler
Neil Burgess
Martin Harvey
Herman Merivale
Prince of Wales Theater
London
Jules Perotti
Budapest
Lothario
Berlin
New York
Metropolis
Helen Redmond
the Ameer
Maude Adams
Rosalind
Juliet
Joseph Arthur
Kinsey Peile
Mary Cholmondeley
Lyceum
Charles Frohman
America
Muslin Underwear Sale At Low Prices
Anticipating price rises, the retailer touts muslin underwear bought last fall and offers white skirts at 39 50 75 98 cents 1.49 and other low prices to beat higher material costs.
Local Banns and Marriages Notice 1900 Warren Jamestown
In Warren on January 23 1900 Charles W Noyes of Pleasantville PA and Ada Grace Zittel of Warren wed at J G Brower home by Rev J C McDonald Also in Buffalo NY January 23 1900 Henry Schimelfeng of Instanter PA and Maude D Kime of Ridgway PA married by Rev Loch In Jamestown NY January 17 1900 Frank Clyde Brown of Jamestown and Minnie P Lauffenberger of Warren PA united in marriage by Rev W W Cookman
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Noyes—Zittel
Warren
J. G. Brower
J. C. McDonald
Charles W. Noyes
Pleasantville
Ada Grace Zittel
Brown—Lauffenberger
Jamestown
N. Y
W. W. Cookman
Frank Clyde Brown
Minnie P. Lauffenberger
Obituaries Chronicle Community Losses from Jan 1900
In Warren Julia Jacobs aged 60 dies from acute asthma and is buried in Oakland following a Sunday service. Glade Run Bert Storum dies at 33 and is buried in the Storum cemetery. Farmington Tp James Ruland dies after a few days illness at about 34. Jamestown Mrs Margaret Jane Stilson dies aged 65 by burial in Sugar Grove. Sugar Grove Tp Rev William Cadman dies aged 71 after long illness. survived by wife Permelia Houck and five daughters. funeral at Stilson Hill church conducted by multiple ministers. burial service includes community mourners.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Storum
Glade Run
Bert Storum
Ruland
Farmington Tp
James Ruland
Stilson
Jamestown
N. Y
Margaret Jane (Page) Stilson
David Stilson
Sugar Grove
Benninghoff
Bedow
Brunson
Bennett
Markham
Mausie
Ball
Pike
W. Sheldon
W. Allen
Etta Ball
Local Cure Claim Highlights Foley’s Honey and Tar
A Champaign resident claims a year of coughing and fear of consumption ended after using Foley’s Honey and Tar. He previously consulted doctors and tried many remedies and now reports no further trouble.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
C. Unger
Maplestreet
Champaign
Ill
Foley
Erie Railroad Excursion Tickets to Far West at Low Rates
Erie R R offers one way and round trip excursion tickets to Washington Oregon Montana North Dakota and South Dakota at very low rates from this section. Tickets and schedules available from D B Rowe Corry Pa or F H Garfield Jamestown N Y. Glass vases all ir prices at Ehlman.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Erie R. R
Washington
Oregon
Montana
North
South Dakota
D. 8. Rowe
The
Erie R.R
Corry
F.H. Garfield
Jamestown
N. Y
Thirty One Days Tour by Pennsylvania Railroad to California
The Pennsylvania Railroad offers a special personally conducted tour leaving New York and Philadelphia February 27. The trip uses a Pullman drawing room sleeping car and connects at El Paso with the Mexico and California Special returning by March 29. Round trip tickets with all expenses are $375 from all PRR points. For info contact ticket agents or listed passenger agents in New York Brooklyn Newark Baltimore Washington Pittsburg and Philadelphia.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Pennsylvania Railroad Company
California
New York
Philadelphia
el Paso
Mexico and
Pennsylvania Railroad
Broadway
Court Street
Brooklyn
Broad Street
Newark
N. J
B. Courlaender, Jr
Baltimore
Colin Studds
Southeastern
Washington, D. C
Thos. E. Watt
Western District
Pittsburg
Geo. W. Boyd
Old Mexico
Montezuma
City of
Mexico
Broadstreet
Colin Studs
Washington, D.C
Western
Geo. W. Bord
North America
Colorado
San Antonio
Tampico
Guanajuato
Guadalajara
Queretaro
City of Mexico
Cuernavaca
B. Courtaender, Jr
Pennsylvania Railroad Florida Tour Leaves February Sixth
First Pennsylvania Railroad seasonal excursion to Jacksonville grants two weeks in Florida. Departure from New York and Philadelphia February 6 with round trip rates from New York 50 dollars and from Philadelphia Harrisburg Baltimore and Washington 48 dollars. Travel agents offer itineraries and tickets at offices in New York Brooklyn Newark Baltimore Washington Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Jacksonville
Florida
New York
Philadelphia
Harrisburg
Baltimore
Washington
Pittsburg
Broadway
Court Street
Brookly
Broad Street
Newark
N. J
B. Courlaender, Jr
Baltimore District
Colin Studds
Southeastern District
Washington, D. C
Thos. E. Watt
Western District
Geo. W. Boyd
Old Mexico Twenty Three Days Tour Details
A special Pullman train tour titled Old Mexico Twenty three Days will depart from New York and Philadelphia on February 12. The itinerary includes visits to major sites in the Land of Montezuma with five days in Mexico City. Estimated expenses are $300, with tickets available through multiple Pennsylvania Railroad agents and offices in Newark Baltimore Washington Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
Anti Diuretic Claims Quick Help for Bedwetting
A drug called Dr. E. Detchon’s Anti Diuretic is advertised as worth over $100 to parents with children who soil bedding due to nighttime urinary incontinence. The商品 promises to arrest the trouble at once and is marketed by Hertzel and Saner druggists in Warren, Pennsylvania.
Wedding announces and printing equipment sale at Warren
The notice promotes wedding invitations and calling cards at the Mall office with neat work at low prices. Also offered is a Backus Water Motor 3 hp in good order priced at $50 with feed pipe and valve, suitable for printing offices and running under eighty pounds pressure. Contact the Mail Office in Warren, Pa.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Warren
Jardiners and fern dishes at low prices from Frhtman Bros
Readable text notes jardinieres and fern dishes in all shapes at low prices offered by Frhtman Brothers.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Lace
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Warren Mail
Home Matters
Burgess
Henry Park
Fifth Ward
Park
Balubo
Pawesven Avs
F. Henry
Colorado Springs
E. D. Wetmore
Buffalo Morning Express
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Canada
Capt. Gridley
John H. W. Gridley
Marine Corps
McKinley
Gridley
Annapolis
Admiral Dewey
President McKinley
H. A. Jamieson
Oakland Cemetery
Quincy
Mass
Hope
Foley Bros. Olean
Penny
Pittsburg Press
Co. K
James Young
Mai
Irvington
Putnamville
Sanford
Wrightsville
Heal
E. C. Burt, Curtis & Wheeler
J. & T. Cousins
Eberhart & Miller
Water Street
Hunter’s
Teerms Cash
O.H. Hunter & Son
Ehlman
Frhtman Bros
NEW Variety Store
Maybank & CO
Carver House
Dexter Luck
Dexter
New Boston
Johnson’s Exchange
Liberty Streets
Robert H. Johnson
C. Smith & Son
Baker & Bowman Co
Utz & Dunn
Levis & Pifer’s
Ladies’ Fine Shoes
Goker & Son
Golden Horse Shoe
Second St
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