Alice Thompson to Visit Two Weeks
Miss Alice Thompson daughter of Mr and Mrs J W Thompson 1743 Sixth Avenue SE will arrive Friday for a two week visit at the home of her aunt She has resigned as a teacher in Shelby Iowa and has accepted a position as a cataloguer at the Quaha public library She will assume her new duties June and will be given a leave of absence from February to June to complete her library degree at Columbia University New York Her mother who has been visiting relatives in Omaha will accompany her home.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Alice Thompson
J. W. Thompson
Sixth Avenue SE
Shelby
Qua Ha
Columbia University
New York
Omaha
Birthday Party Held for Frank Roper Jr
Frank Robert Roper celebrates his seventh birthday with an afternoon party at his parents home 2018 Sixth Avenue South. Guests include Larry Lee Larsen Mary Platt Deane Lindh Davie Ferguson Arthur Krebs Karen Anderson and Frank J Whaley.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Frank Robert Roper
Frank Roeper
Sixth Avenue Si
Larry Lee Larsen
Mary Platt
Deane Lindh
Davie Ferguson
Arthur Krebs
Karen Anderson
Frank J. Whaley
Round Of Parties To Honor Guests In City
Luncheons teas and dinners honor out of town guests as banners fly. Mrs Emma Watson Haskell of Pasadena was the guest at a Friday luncheon for twelve hosted by Mrs David Turner. Separate events include a dinner for Mrs Haskell by Mr and Mrs Harry Hunter and a buffet and dance at the Cedar Rapids Country Club for Lieut and Mrs R M Mackinnon. Additional hosts include Mr and Mrs H C Burleson and Mr and Mrs T Warrriner for visiting Californians Harwood and Mrs Warriner.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Robert S. Conks
Emma Watson Haskell
Pasadena
Calif
David Turner
Twenty-third Street
R M Mackinnon
Indianhead
Hawai
H. C. Burleson
Twenty-first Street
T Ro Warriner
Forest Drive
Harwood Warriner
Los Gatos
Junior League to Broadcast Health Program Monday
The Junior League of Cedar Rapids will present a program over station WMT Monday at 3:45 p.m. linked to the summer health round-up by the Parent-Teacher Council. The children's theater will dramatize Child Health Foundations with cast members Mrs. Donald FT Barnes, Mrs. Robert R Clark II and Edward M Sohoda Jr.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Junior League of
Cedar Rapids
WMT
Parent-Teacher Council
League
Children's
Child Health Foundations
Donald FT. Barnes
Robert R Clark II
Edward M. Sohoda
Billie Riordan Dances in Miami Recital
Billie Riordan, granddaughter of Mr and Mrs Edward C Clark, performed in five scenes at the Mae Rose Follies in Miami on May 17. Her solo piece Spirit of the Terpsichore showcased six years of study.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Billie Riordan
Edward C. Clark
Grande Avenue
See
Miami Beach
Fla
Miami
Billie
Mrs G A Kay Hosts Birthday Dinner for Mrs Linge
Mrs G A Kay of 2232 Country Club Parkway SE will host a dinner Friday for twelve guests to honor Mrs Carl K Linge on her birthday.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
G, A. Kay
Linge
G A. Kay
Country Club Parkway SE
Carl K. Linge
Granddaughter's Wedding Arrives Ohio Matron in Town
Mrs George Ross of Columbus Ohio will attend the wedding of her granddaughter Miss Elizabeth Melberg and William McLane Rae of Des Moines. The ceremony is Saturday at 12 30 PM with Mrs Ross to stay a week at 316 Nineteenth Street SE with Mr and Mrs Amos Melberg.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
George Ross
Columbus
Ohio
Elizabeth Melberg
William McLane Rae
Des Moines
Ross
Amos Melberg
Nineteenth Street
Mrs Raymond Wernimont Hosts Bridge Club Luncheon
Mrs Raymond Wernimont entertained members of her Windermere bridge club at her apartment with a luncheon and an afternoon of bridge. Guests included Mrs Wallace Lyon and Mrs Robert R. Clark JH along with members Miss Barbara Bloomhall and Mesdames Ed Breen William Covington Jack Durin John Greedy and Peter Ll.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Raymond Wernimont
Windermere Apartments
Bridge Club
Wallace 1
Lyon
Robert R. Clark JH
Barbara Bloomhall
Ed Breen
William Covington
Jack BK. Durin
Johnson C Greedy
Peter Ll. Topic
Teeters Visit Elderkin Home In Iowa City
Mr and Mrs W R Teeters of St Louis will arrive late Friday to spend the weekend with their daughter Mrs David M Elderkin and Mr Elderkin at 2417 D avenue NE Another guest will be Mrs Elderkin's brother Robert Teeters a University of Iowa student visiting Saturday and Sunday
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
W. R. Teeters
St. Louis
David M Elderkin
Elderkin
D Avenue NE
Mrs Palmer Returns from Club Convention in Milwaukee
Mrs Austin N Palmer of the Ausadie returned Thursday from Milwaukee where she attended the convention of the General Federation of Women's Clubs. Other delegates to the convention are expected to return this weekend.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Austin N Palmer
Milwaukee
General Federation of Women's Clubs
Miss Jeanne Anthony Visites Des Moines as Guest
Miss Jeanne Anthony daughter of Mr and Mrs Mark Anthony of 8385 Seventeenth Street SE is spending several days in Des Moines as the guest of friends.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Jeanne Anthony
Mark Anthony
Seventeenth Street
Des Moines
Tea for Hope circle of the King's Daughters
Mrs Lester Wright hosted a Hope circle tea at her home with Mrs Leonard P. Lyon presiding. Guests included Mrs Henry Houseman of Kenilworth and others as new officers were installed and devotions led. A history of last year’s work was reviewed and Mrs Donald Wilson was welcomed as a new member.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Lester Wright
J Avenue NE
Hope Circle
King’s Daughters
Leonard P. Lyon
Henry Houseman
Kenilworth, Til
A. J. Brockman
Henry Houseman, Jr
Ed McCoy
Wright
Lyon
Donald Wilson
T. M. S. Club Semiannual Meeting Report
The T. M. S. club held its semiannual meeting Thursday evening at Mrs. Olga Malls’s Marion home. A picnic supper followed by games entertained twenty five attendees including one guest. hostess helpers were Mrs. Jennie Shtink and Miss Margaret Hanzelka.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
T. M.S. Club
Olga Malls
Route Three
Marion
Jennie Shtink
Margaret Hanzelka
Mothersingers Hold Annual Picnic and Elect Officers
The Mothersingers of the PLT A. organization met Tuesday at Daniels Park for their annual picnic with 35 in attendance. Officers elected: Mrs J J Ford president, Mrs JL K McKee secretary, Mrs O W Wriebel treasurer, and Mrs F BK use conch chair. Elizabeth Sloan director and Olive Rules pianist received gifts. Neely Hill retired as council president thanked the group.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
PLT
A. Orgaization
Daniels Park
J.J. Ford
JL. K. McKee
O. W. Wriebel
Fbk
Use
Elizabeth Sloan
O | Thompson
Olive Rules
Chicago
Neely Hill
Council
Vol. Spohn
Court Oil
Omaha
B. Barnes
Peg Bowman
Helen Sperring
FT Baker
Isabel Jacobs
Harriet Wolfe
Irene McKee
Mildred June
Olive Ruby
Elsie Longley
Sloan
J. Ulch
Ruby
Catherine Hanley Feted At Country Club
Catherine Hanley, soon to wed Edward Ward on June 10, was honored at Marion Country Club by Equitable Life Assurance colleagues. Twenty three guests attended a bridal white themed dinner with lilacs and red tulips, featuring a mock Sadie Hawkins wedding and informal games.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Catherine Hanley
Edward Ward
Equitable Life Assurance Society
Marion Country Club
Sadie Hawkins
Addie Phillipson
Myrna Reifschneider
Edna Nissen
Margaret Eddy
Theresa Brecll
Dorothy McCann
Margaret Gould
Betty Starman
Ruth Heald
Lorraine Jorgenson
Beulah Bredfeldt
Georgia Beall
Beulah DeYoung
Malvina McKenna
Margaret Mackin
Nancy Borland
Mildred Hoadley
Libbie Reshons
Helen Hogan
Margaret Muhl Feted Tuesday as Bride-Designate
Mrs J N Wilson of Vinton and her daughter hosted a luncheon at the Terry home Tuesday honoring Miss Margaret Muhl of Vinton who will wed Edward Vanourny on June 1. Guests included Mrs Theodore Muhl C G Williams Filmer Hite Miss Marcella Muhl and Mrs Maurice Bordewick of Traer. A gift was presented to the bride elect.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Margaret Muhl
Vinton
Edward Vanourny
J. N. Wilson
Miausic Pupils In Recital Saturday At Coe College
The Coe college music department presents a recital Saturday at 7 30 pm in the S M Sinclair Memorial chapel featuring Miss Eleanor Houts Messrs Stanley Vesely Martha Leksa Prof Joseph H Kitchin Miss Alma Turechek Prof Max Daehler Prof Grace Surab and others with a program including works by Haydn Beethoven Bach and Schumann among numerous titled pieces and student performers.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Eleanor Houts
Stanley Vesely
Martha l Leksa
Joseph H. Kitchin
Alma Turechek
Max Daehler
Grace Surab
Coe College
S. M. Sinclair Memorial Chapel
Maye Kitte
Haydn Jesse Dorwar
Krublay
Mrs Sindahl Hosts Chicago Guests At Dessert Luncheon
Mrs HJ Sindahl entertained Chicago visitors at a dessert luncheon honoring her sister Mrs J L Keenan and Mrs VW Warning with Mrs Jennie Melgarlane. Guests included Pete McCracken Henry Petorsy Verne White Jack Lindley and others. Keenan and Lindahl are daughters of Mr. and Mrs. Simon Wehrman who celebrate their sixty seventh wedding anniversary Friday.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
HJ Sindahl
Forteenth Street
J .L. Keenan
Niore
VW Warning
Jennie Melgarlane
Chicago
Simon Wehrman
Lindahl
Wild Rose Lodge Fetes Mrs Crowder and Son
Wild Rose Lodge No 51 auxiliary to S A of NL A hosted a picnic at Waniels Park for Mrs Anna Crowder and her son Glenn before they move to San Diego California. Twenty three members attended and presented a signing away gift to Mrs Crowder who serves as lodge chaplain.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Anna Crowder
Glenn
Eleventh Street
San Diego
Calif
Wild Rose Lodge No. Sl
S. A
NL A
Waniels Park
Crowder
Cheskhia May Camp Fire hike honors cooking session
The Chesk chamay Camp Fire group hiked Wednesday at Indian Creek and completed cooking supper earning honors. Mary Grauerholts was elected secretary. Attendees included Glatha White Patricia Maroney Patricia Long Virginia Tou Reeder La Vone Chermak and Beverly Lawrence.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Indian Creek
Cheskchamay
Mary Grauerholts
Glatha White
Patrician Maroney
Patricia Long
Virginia Tou Reeder
la Vone Chermak
Beverly Lawrence
Otyokwa Camp Fine Group Plans Kolach Sale
The Otyokwa Camp Fine group met Wednesday at the home of Mrs. LeRoy Quinn to plan a kolach sale. Present were Rosemary Marsh, Mary Rink, Mary Malton, Dorothy Prout, Shir Jene Wright, Juan Doran, Kathleen Crowley, Mary Jane Delbridge and Ann Keough.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
LeRoy Quinn
Rosemary Marsh
Mary Rink
Mary Malton
Dorothy Prout
Shir- Jene Wright
Juan Doran
Kathleen Crowley
Mary Jane Delbridge
Ann Keough
Jane Ann Coler Hosts Bridge Club Evening
Miss Jane Ann Coler at 1835 Fifth Avenue SE hosted her bridge club on Thursday. Winners were Eleanor, Bert, and Miss Coler, with Jeannette Merveaux Georganne Dunshee Sarah Ann Angott Phyllis Horak Jane Watson and Blair Lines among the members present.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Jane Ann Coler
Fifth Avenue SE
Eleanor, Bert
Miss Coler
Jeannette Merveaux
Georganne Dunshee
Sarah Ann Angott
Phyllis Horak
Jane Watson
Blair Lines
Arthur P T A annual teachers party honors retiring president
The Arthur school P T A held its annual teachers party at the Commonwealth Tea Room Wednesday evening. Tables were decorated with spring flowers and lilies of the valley at each guest of honor plate. Mrs. JC Milner retired president spoke and introduced past presidents. New president Mrs. V E Lichtenstein presided over the rest of the program. Bridge prizes went to four members.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Arthur School
Commonwealth Tea Room
JC. Milner
Philip W. Shive
Raymond Klass
V. E.lichtenstein
Wayne Stookey
J. T. Utter
Milner
Lee Whitcomb
Orville Stucker
L. W. Platt
Louis Stevenson
J .L. Hicks
Truman Hanson
Farewell honors for departing Cedar Rapids residents
Local hostesses hosted farewell gatherings for residents planning moves to Champaign Illinois and Oklahoma City Oklahoma. Mrs T Z Markland Jr and Mrs Wood were among those honored with luncheons and bridge games at homes on Beveridge NE and 2310 Bayenue NE.
Bethany Congregational Mother Daughter Dinner Recital
Bethany Congregational held a mother and daughter dinner followed by a church program featuring Sunday school and church members. Opened with prayer, then songs, solos, poems, and a whistling piece, with readings on Mother's Day and tributes by multiple classes and members.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Bethany Congregational
Bethany Congregational Church
Byers
M. Blaine
R. Johnson
Barbara Birger
W. Money
Ruth Conrad
Po Lambs
Edna White
Geraldine White
Margaret Bottome circle elects new officers
Mrs Walter Kahler was elected president of the Margaret Bottome circle of the King's Daughters after a dessert luncheon at Mrs FY Nyhaver's home. New officers include Mrs EK Pappen vice president Thayer secretary and D M Robertson rep with Mrs Lester Martiniek reappointed as treasurer.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Walter Kahler
Washington Avenue SE
Margaret Bottome
King’s Daughters
FY N Yhaver
Seventh Avenue SE
A Ek.pappen
Thayer
D. M. Robertson
Jeanie McCowen
Lester Martuniek
Henry Haege
Robertson
Hacego
Public Health Nursing Association
Montrose
Camp Wapsie
Bever Park Dune 12
Joe Carberry
Fd Coler
Misses Gandfellow Brollier Wylie host Beta Sigma Phi meeting
Miss Jane Gandfellow Miss Inez Brollier and Miss Winifred Wylie hosted the Sigma chapter gathering at Miss Brollier's home on Mount Vernon avenue SE. Games were played and Miss Marvel Whitcher, president, led the business meeting with Miss Mildred Rathbun as a guest.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Jane Gandfellow
Inez Brollier
Winifred Wylie
Sigma Chapter
Beta Sigma Phi
Brollier
Mount Vernon Avenue SE
Miss Leuti Hostess At Club Evening
Miss Sylvia Tehti entertained members of her club Wednesday evening at 1932 Fifth Avenue SE. Prizes were awarded to Marjorie Lovelt and Jacqueline Bachman.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Sylvia Tehti
Fifth Avenue SE
Marjorie Lovelt
Jacqueline Bachman
Ida Mansfield Circle Holds Luncheon Meeting
Twenty attended the Ida Mansfield circle luncheon at Mrs J Adfutdh 1620 Washington Ave SE. Mrs Owen T Barry president led prayers and the Installation Service was given to Ethel Pantsen. New officers were Ben Peterson president J Roy Lavingstam vice president Mel Coon Teltier secretary and M G Morris treasurer. Major projects included furnishing 284 quarts of milk to Public Health Nursing and paying a 74 dental bill. Members worked on Red Cross tasks and the next yenue luncheon is set for June 4 at the Miks club.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Ida Mansfield Canele
J. Adfutdh
Washington Avenue
Owen 'T Barry
King’s Daughters
Ethel Pantsen
Fnllows
Ben Peterson
J. Roy Lavingstam
Mel Coon Teltier
M. G. Morris
Public Health Nursing Bureau
Red Cross
Miks Club
Birthday Surprise For Leroy Hollan At 841 Fourth Ave SH
Leroy Hollan was surprised on his birthday Saturday evening by friends at 841 Fourth Avenue SH. The party featured high scores in a game of five hundred and included many attendees from Chicago and local residents. Present were Mrs Glenn Suits, Ao Morgan, Buneo, Miss Mary Jon Paul n, Mr and Mrs Frank Hallan and children Low and Charles, Mr and Mrs Milo Pottla and their kids, Mary Louise, Dorothy, Milo John, Dick Staves, and LeRoy Hollan Jr.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
LeRoy Hollan
Fourth Avenue
Five Hundred
Bunuya
Glenn Suits
Ao Morgan Buneo
Mary Jon Pauln
RO Wotlan
Walter Staves
Chicago
Frank Hallan
Low
Charles
Milo Pottla
Fivelwa
Mary Louise
Dorothy
Milo John
Mes
A. W. Morgan
Dick Staves
LeRoy Hollan, Jr
LeRoy Holhin
Louise Leibert Circle Elects Officers at Dessert Meeting
Louise Leibert circle elected officers for the next term during a dessert luncheon at Mrs A N Hillingston’s home 400 Nineteenth Street NE Mrs F W Niesz was named president Others chosen include Mrs A E Killinger vice president Mrs Roo Chapman secretary Mrs AR Glasier treasurer and Mrs R S Prewitt Dr Jennie McCowen named representative Devotions were led by Mrs George Serovy Gifts were given to members Mrs Lt Owen Tisdale and Mrs W A Cash who will move to Marshalltown and Oklahoma City respectively.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Louise Leibert
King’s Daughters
Owen Tisdale
W. A Cash
Marshalltown
Oklahoma City
Bever Park Hosts Iowa Mutual Girls Club Supper
A pivenic supper was served in Bever park Wednesday evening for the Iowa Mutual Girls club. Hostesses were Barlamond Caller, Marie Skerik, Alice Schmidt and Velma Schlioe men. Prizes were won by Rene Powerrod Verna Thompson.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Bever Park
Iowa Mutual Girls Club
Barlamond
Marie Skerik
Alice Schmidt
Velma Schlioemen
Rene Powerrod
Verna Thompson
Miss Spencer Hostess With The Lotistic Notes
The Lotistic Notes met at Miss Maxine Spencer's home for a Thursday steak fry. Prizes for games went to Miss Maurie Lyzette and Miss Georgette Miras. Other attendees included Mary Bohac, Mary Frances Batten, Gladys Rejsa and Mary Lou Fieseler.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Maxine Spencer
Maurie Lyzette
Georgette Miras
Mary Bohac
Mary Frances Batten
Gladys Rejsa
Mary Lou Fieseler
Happy Go Lucky Club Welcomes Five New Members
The Happy Go Lucky club met Thursday for dinner with five new members Adeline Byes Marie Slaby Helen Slaby Lillian Hicak and Libbie Pospisil joining. Virginia Cook attended as a guest.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Happy Go Lucky Club
Adeline Byes
Marie Slaby
Helen Slaby
Lillian Hicak
Tlibbie Pospisil
Virginia Cook
Misses Erma Hostesses Lead Vivaopterers Drill Team Evening
The Misses Erma radecky Charideon Lorene and Mary Ann Krithick hosted Pis technicians at the Karli home on ZITO WJ street SW. The event included towel donations for the ZG BL J camp with many Mesdames and Misses in attendance.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Erma [Radecky
Charideon Lorene
Mary Ann Krithick
Pisteers
ZF Cob J Ytrist Dea
Karli
Zito WJ
Hemos
Frank Brejoba
Beyeard Machacek
Weneil Lippert
Robert Vanous
Edward Kuba
Jems Qrahov
Zal Ben Drahovastl
Falla Symek
Geraldine Lanka
Hea Pieseler
Mani Cubel
Maxine Brenterd
Mary Ann
Libbie Wind Muargurie Machacelk
Breakfast gathering of Wis and mens society at Grande Avenue church
Thirty five members of the Wis and mens society of the Grande Avenue United Presbyterian church met for breakfast Thursday morning at the home of Mrs. George A Clements at 2619 Wilson avenue SW.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Wis and Mens Society
Grande Avenue
SMCIEN CLUB MEETS AT MRS BANKS HOME FOR SEWING
The SMTCIEN Club gathers Thursday afternoon at Mrs Louis Bank 875 Oaklane Avenue NE to sew. The next meeting will be held at Toowath Myx Charlie Mather 1954 Sixth Avenue SE.
Pre-School Health Clinic Sponsored by P T A
Forty five underprivileged preschool children attended an annual health clinic at Memorial building sponsored by the Cedar Rapids Parent Teacher Council. Children were weighed measured tested for eye ear nose throat and immunized against diphtheria or smallpox and those needing medical care were referred to their family doctors.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Memorial
Edar Rapids
Holvenstat
Pt.a
Jarold Smith
Mra
Wilson High Band To Give Concert Sunday
The Wilson high school band will present a concert on the west side of the school Sunday at 7 3 pm. A band stand is erected and lights will be provided for the occasion. Public performances will be served by members of the student body with a full program of marching and band selections.
MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE
Wilson High School
Wib
Charis Baker Amepiegm Patras
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Frank Roper, JR
Hladey's Grocery & Market
4Th Ave
Dial
Mrs. Ross
Melberg
Wernimont
Teeters
Mrs. Palmer
T. M. S. Club
Mothersingers
Margaret
Dorothy Feanow
Adieu
Beethoven Helen Smith
Clarke Simmy Leacox
Lords Bentley
Little Duwarts
Bentley Nancy Hale
la Graziosa
Mary
Dane Hazlewood
Richter Dhnony McLain
Wallis
Mildred Harris
Tsibaikowsky
Pievvonka
Caroline Frbimitisten
Sehatte
Hetty Wolfe
Dees
Solly
Arlene Rose
Acralay
Donald Johanas
Massenet Rawson
Clotsch
Schumann Pansat Hinbucek
Tag All Stouttleworthy
Drbvssy Wilatha Shien
SU Rauss
Joan Hinerwadet
Puc
Elise Berethoven
Scoteh
Tone Prem
MacDawely
Marian ‘Taylor Acabesaue
MacDowr
Charles Loufek
Sindahl
Wild Rose Lodge
Cheskchiamay
Otyokwa Camp
Albert
P.T.A. Meetings
Arthur
Cechy Rapids
T. Z. Markland, Jr
Chaanpaen
LeRoy Kling
Jobin MM
Kunde
Paul Kelly
Asabert JL
Gardiner
Helen Fs Turner
Markland
Kelly
Stein
Bridge
Wallace GG Boyson
Card d
Doeser
Osea PO Ruseh
Ebaroed
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Stowras
Prewitt
WoOd
Coal
George W. Smith
Bayenue
Cash
Fred W Niesz
Ralph C. Chase
SIGMA
Miss Leuti
Ida Mansfield
Towa Mutual Girls
Miss Spencer
Vivopterers
Grande Avenue Group
Smtcien Club
Krebs
Dirlet
Gower
Zora Sporman
Mer
Wilson High Band
Kaybe
Second Avenue SF
Morgan Bros
Third Avenue
Second Ave
MJ B Co
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