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Lethbridge Herald (Newspaper) - April 30, 1910, Lethbridge, Alberta TEe Lethbridge Da3y Herald Volume III. Lethbridge, Alberta. Saturday, April 30,1910. Number 118 MINTY REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS Claimed Privilege-Says Clarke Made Nothing On Bond Deal-Was Philanthropic Wmnipcg, Apr. 29.-A flat refusal by O. D. Minty to answer certain ()Ucstions asked him by R. B. Bennett, K.C., was the feature of the Alberta and Great Waterways Investigation yesterday afternoon. Mr. Minty based his refusal on the ground that he was solicitor for the Canada West Construction Company, and everything he had learned in that capacity was privileged. Judge Scott aslced him whether he would answer the questions in case the commission should rule they were not covered by ppivilege. To this Minty replied that he would not, and there the matter was allowed to rest for the present. In the course of his evidence yesterday afternoon, Mr. Minty said that he assumed that as a coloni/'ation road the A. & G. W. would have aid from tbe Dominion Government but he did not know anything about the negotiations. His letter to Mr. Woods of .lanuary 8, 1909, on the subject was merely generally in its character. In tMs letter he said to Mr. Woods : "Owing to the short time I had fir seeing you, I overlooked asking you what arrangements Mr. Cross bad made at Ottawa regarding aid from the Dominion in so far as the Alberta and Great Waterways Railway is conoerned." Mr. Minty said he must have known Mr. Cross was going to Ottawa but lie could not remember. "When you saw Mr. Clarke after his return from England, did he tell you he had arranged for marlfcting the bonds ?" "He told me everything was progressing satisfactory. I don't know that he had completed arrangements, but everything was going in satisfactory shape, so that when the government passed the legislatSon, he could proceed to completion." A telegram was sent by W. R. Clarke to Mr. Minty under date of  Ian. 30, 1909, saying : "Friend has already started cast. My information indirect. Will wire you news when definite but not now. Will need you soon." Cross Was the Friend The "friend" he referred to was Mr. (;ross. There was an understanding as to meeting Mr.- Cro.s.s in cdly so," replied Mr. Minty. "It was done for the purpose of complying with the act.' "Did Mr. Clarke ever tell you that any member of the government of the legislature of Alberta was interested in this railway project ?" "No, not at all." "Or was interested in the bond issue?" "He never told me so." "Or had even paid or promised anything out of the bond issue otherwise?" "He never told me such a thing. The only reason he ever told me it was not so was on account of the charges made by Mr. Bennett in the legislature." Did you ever have any conversation with any member of the government or legislature with respect to their having an interest in the scheme?" "Certainly not. Except Insofar as Mr. Cornwall told me that he had a part interest in the railway or was doing so." Judge Harvey remarked that W. R. Clarke seemed to be a sort of philanthropist since there appeared to be nothing for him in the construction of the railway. Mr. Minty replied that W. R. Clarke was, he largely understood, interested in the development of the country and if there was a profit in building the road he was ready that his brother, B. R. Clarke, should get it, leaving to W. R. Clarke the benefits to ultimately come from development. In further answer to Mr. Bennett, Mr. Minty said W. R. Clarke was to get a salary for three years and his $50,000 .stock. Mr. Minty did not know what interests W. R. Clarke had in that coimtry at pscsent. "Have you any knowledge of any sums W. R. C;iarke had expended in the .matter ?" "I don't know any of the details." "Do yon know appro.ximately how much 7 Was it $50,000 ?" "It must have been more." "Do you know if he made any contributions to any campaigns during the progress of the negotiation;* ?" "I don't know." "You don't know whether he took care of the boys ?" asked Mr. Bennett." Do you mean yourself ?" 4! your knowI"(l(;e gees i t-omniissioners to require an answer. tbi'Tc is only one'agreement ?" "I am j "As.suming that we don:t uphold absolutely satisfied there i.s only , your objection," asked .ludge Scott, one." "would you submit to the railway "Di"Mr. Clarke made his own airangcments with the bank, an overdraft." tion Company" "1 see," said Mr. Minty. ".\ow we have got the cor-It was I rect term for tlie railway company, I although sonu' call il a sewer pipe in Rush For IWogatioii Is Being Made-Railway Leglshtion Ottawa, April 29.-A determined effort was made In ..ue House today to clear the order paper of minor government bills, with the result that by the time adjournment came, close upon midnight, much flotsam and Jetsam which had been down for consideration for many weeks was disposed of and the way paved for the supply at Saturday's sitting tomorrow. The desire to bring about the prorogation on Wednesday next was shown in the manner in whicfh legislation went through. Criticism was cut short and small mercy was shown any member on either side who evinced a wish to orate. With the working clothes, the House showed w.liat it could do in the way of sending legislation to the Senate when it felt disposed and although the upper house Is still indulging in the pleasure of floating the Canadian navy on a sea or words, there is little doubt that their honors will forget oratory long enough to float it. Mr. Graham took up some time with his railway act amendment and in this be incorporated the bills of thiree private membei-s. The bill as introduced originally by Mr. Graham extended the Jurisdiction of the railway board to work already commenced to simplify tlie procedure In the matter of stringing wires over tracks, and to extend tlie ixjwers of companies with regard to granting passes. An additional clause to the bills, however,, was added the proposals of Messrs. I.,iincas-ter. .Melgbton and Papineau, introduced much light in the .session as public bills. Mr. Lancaster's bill limited the rig'ht of appeal from the award of the board by limiting the time to thirty days in which such action may be taken. (Mr. Leighton's bill enlarged the liabilities of railway companies respecting the granting of tracks, and .Mr. Papineau's bill provides that In the case of property being set on fire by sparks from locomotives the company is responsible for losses over the amount of insurance, but this liability is limited to |5,000 if^the engine is equipped with efficient spark preventors. Tliis composite bill was Ijassed. Cornwall's Reward If He Got Federal Subsidy Winnipeg, April 30.-On the open-iug of the AiberU railway commission this morning W. L. Walsb announced tfiat he had secured an order from Mr. Justice MacDonald yesterday giving the commission the power to call the following witnesses, J. D. Mc-Artbur, E. A. James, H. H. McMahon, N. G. Leslie, G. Munro, H. Parsons and T. R. Whitley. The witnesses would be called in the usual way. .Mr. Bennett resumed the examination of Mr. Minty, asking him as to his visits to Edmonton In connection with the dltterent charters, witness giving the dates of the visits. Cernwair* Reward Mr. Minty said that J. K. Cornwall was to get 1600,000 stock if he secured a Dominion stibsidy of |3,200 a mile. Mr. Bennett wanted to know If witness knew anything of the distribution of 1544,000 mentioned by Mr. Kmerson and Mr. Minty replied that he had no recollection of anything t>elng said about It at the Syndicate meetings. Witness prepared the document on April 22, when .Mr. Cornwall renounced his interests In the Syndicate. ^ The Matter of Mileage Mr. Bennett produced a document written by witness l.n which he snld that the minimum jwie ag> tor which a government guai^Sntee should be asked for should .be 250 miles. Mr. A'lipty could not say how the mileage was arrived at. Mr. .Minty said that the first time he met A. D. Bowen was when he came to Winnipeg with a letter of introduction from Mr. J. K. Cornwall. The letter referred to Cornwall's option on Mr. DaNidson's interests in the Syndicate and stated that .Mr. Minty was letting Mr. Bow-en take it up. Mr. Bennett pressed witness to say that Mr. Cornwall and his Winnipeg friends were endeavoring to secure control of all ihe options In the -�Vthabasca Syndicate. iWIifness would not, however, admit this. Mr. Cornwall again wrote .Mr. .Minty asking him if Bowen had taken up the interests and stated that money was hard to get. A letter Was read from Minty to Cornwall, addressed to Athn-basca Landing, stating that he had interested .Mr. Bowen in the enter- + + + + + + + + + + + The Banks of the city, Instead of closing all day Monday, .\rbor Day, will close at twelve o'clock on Monday and also on Wednesday, when the baseball season opens. The schools will observe .Arbor Day on Wednesday. SANKEYESIS REALLY AIM Ronrkakk Cue Of Mis-takn iMlnlily-Vicliii Ihbm Sam Keyes is not dead and he yet speaketh. This morning he called up the Herald from .Monarch to say that he is still very much alive and has no notion of being run over by a train. He says, moreover, i*at he is the man who worked for J. .M. Redding and Is known by .Mrs. A. G. Needham. both of whom identifled the dejid man as Keyea. He has not been out of .Monarch since a week ago Thursday. D. M. Ross, of Monarch, in speaking to the Herald, stated that Fred Dalzell who lives across the river from Monarch on the day before the man was killed, had a man at his home for dinner and afterwards rowed him across the river. The man was walking to Lethbridge and inquired as to the mines here. He had evidently been drlnKlng and was a miner. I'Yoni the description he has of the dead man Mr. DaUell is sure that is the man who was killed. W. J. Keyes, traveller for Messrs. Miller and Hicliard, of Winnipeg, arrived in the city last night. The Herald looked him up and learned that he was a cousin of the Samuel Keyes supposed to have been killed. The Herald informed him that the mounted police had ascertained that Samuel Keyes was alive and on a farm near Monarch. Monarch was phoned and a rig sent out from there to the farm of Jack Desmond, where Keyes is working. He came into Monarch and satisfied W. J. Keyes that he wa� bis cousin although the two had never in their lives met personally. The miner, Dan Slavin, who is supposed to be able to Identify the man, has gone to the coast and the police have not been able to identify the man as ottier than Sam Keyes, who he certainly is not. The mounted police are practically UPROAR RAISED IN HOUSE OF COMMONS Hon. Wm. Putfsley Centre Of Stormy Scene -Witness Refused To Answer Questions J. Ottawa, Apr. 29.-Uproar charac-fi terized the meeting of the public accounts committee this afternoon and when Chairman Warbuiton left the chair at 6 o'clock be terminated the. stormiest meeting of tbe session of this body. Tbe cause of the prolonged trouble was Mr. Pugsley, who was charged by tbe opposition with acting as defending counsel for the witness on the stand. The members ot the opposition told the minister of public works that he was not only doing what he knew was absolutely wrong but he was blocking information to which the committee �^as entitled and which the committc was determined to get from the witness, even though a minister of the Crown was acting as defending counsel in a case which affected the honor of his department and the proper j expenditure ot public money. The case before the committee was that of the rental by the government by the Canadian and Woods building on Slater street, Ottawa. The rentals paid for these buildings have been before the committee previously this session but to-day Major Sam .Sharpe probed into the cost of lighting the buildings. The auditor-general's report for 1908-09 shows that the department ot public works paid to Woods and Tate for lighting the Canadian and Woods buildings the sum ot $9,465.91. The cost to tlie Woods estate for the light which they get from the local light company is declared to be less than $3,000, and therefore the contention is that too much profit is made in selling the light to the government. Mr. Linton, the manager of the Imperial Realty Company which manages the Woods' estate, at to-day's meeting,>d to produce the contract with the lighting company, and in this he was sapported hy Mr; Pugsley. There was a stomy psMm-age of arms ev�r this, Ifaivr Sam .Skarpc accusing Mr. PMgclejr of ac^ ing a.^ deff^ndant for the ivitaesft la the box. Mr. Pugsley said he kad a perfect rigbt Ut ebjeet to wroag procedure. Finally the ihairsnaa when appealed to, ruled that thr. contract aeeii jntt be produced. The nekt moHKnt aaotker teaipeii% broke. aSajer Shaipt cMlteUMi him examination et Mr. lialM Mr. Pugslejr said it was aai a proper question to ask and the witaess aieed not answer it. Mr. Pugsley �aid his sole desire cs to sec tbat pi�(�Mlng� are caiiieii on in a fair end pjnaper aunaer. It has been ruled tiy ike chairaaa thai the old contraei made years ago between Mr. Woods and tbe Electric Light company ceed toot be produced; and now it is being trMt* get this information by ilknal queations Finally, after further eHorts had been made lo make soaie progress and Mr. Pugsley was coatiaiuaUy prompting Mr Linton not to aaswer Mr. Blain askf'ti witaess whether he bad been ad^isvd before be cane to the committee, tot to aaswet q/mh tions touching uiKm the price paid by the Woods people to the cHf for lighting. Mr. I.^inton saiif the solicitors and officials of tbe coBDpany had UM ftim he need not answer these qneatioiH!. Then Mr. Warburion, the ohairdiftti, refused the ijuei^.ion which Ma|or .Sharpe put to the witaess, aadagaht-there were strenuous obJectionR. Major Sharpe and Mr. Middlebro elined against sueh methods. The witness was in the box and it wit not for the i-hairman or Mr. Pug�-ley to prompt hinn. J. W. SCARBEKRY WAS ACQUITTED prise and had introduced him to a: certain that tbe man is a miner from SHERIFF VAN WART IS CHAIRMAN "On what security was tFiat $50,-^ our country." 00(1 overdraft arranged for?" "On; The salary ot .taS.OOO a year to W. Mr. Clarke'.s securily." I H. lUarkc as President of the Rail- "Thc only sum which wa.s to be I way company would be paid, said Mr. credit of the company on the sceoml | Minty, by the Construction Company of Oi:tolier was the sum of $50,000?" j during the period of construction, as "Yes." I part of the expenses of construction. "Then the $50,000 was chetiued out ' The $25,000 a year to Dr. Waddell as to Mr. Clarke?" "Yes." � consulting nigineer, the $75,000 bonus "Do you know what was done with i which Dr. Waddell was to receive on that chi'que 7" "1 believe he took ; the completion of the road, and the up the overdraft." I $12,000 a year to be paid to E. A. "The bank always had a pretty strong strine on that money," remark ed ludge Scott. "Oh, yes, undoubt- .James as general manager were all to come from the Construction Company. Board Of Conciliation At Frank Is Now Complete Calgary, .April 30. - SlicrilT Van Wart ycstei'ilay received notice of his aiipointnient as chairman of the board of conciliation to enquire into the trouble, existing between the .'Vm-crican Coal Co. and the miners at Frank. With him Colin MacLeod will .sit as representative of the company and Clement .Stubbs, of Coleman, representing the men. No date has been set for the board to meet. number of people. Mr. Minty had no recollection of having a letter from Bowen on .May 31 and said he could not refresh his mind on the subject. He bad no control of his tile of letters. Bennett asked witness was it not u fact that Bowen liad j written to him to secure all the outstanding interess of the Syndicate. \\ ilne�s replied that he got in touch with the members of tJie Syndicate to see what view tliey would take aa to selling out at par. .Mr. Minty further e.xDlained tliat lie was acting for the nieniber.s of the S.vndlcate and not lor Bowen. Bennett wished to Know whethei- in May, I'JOX Minty kinnv .VIr. Bowen acting for .Mr. fit'rUe. .Mint.v reolied -that it was l.-ler than that date when he learned ttiat .Mr. Bowen represented Cl.trk? .Minty said all the outstan'llng iii'i--esls were not gatbeietl in tor sale ,\... Bowen on June 5. Kernie, although they have no idea o:' his naine. MONARCH HOTEL SOLD FOR A BIG FIGURE Yesterday a deal was completed whereby Richard Urcb sold hi% hotel a; .Monaicli to ,)olin Weaver of Fved-ericton, .N. B., tor $:ia.O00. .Mr. Sutherland, of the Wilton Hotel, Claresholni, will manage the house wliich will omm 111) on .Ma.v n. ARTILLERY BOYS WILL GO TO CAMP EXTRA DAILY TRAIN PUT ON Drill Instructor Coming-Full Equipment-Special Train Jury Gave Prisoner the Benefit of the Doubt Yesterday lohn W. .Scarberry, the Wainer man, was acquittal by the jury last night of the charge of rape preferred against liifm by Mrs. I'earl Carpenter, who, with her husband, was employed on Scarberry's farm. The ease was held in camera. The evidence given for the .IOURNED Only Two Cases Heard- S�*ar�*ity off Judges the t'iiftiiiMe .Supreme Court ;idiuiimed last nig�ti . with only two ciisirs, the Sinms and .Scarberry cases heard, out ot the large ilockei set tlvwii tor bearing. One other civil ease, the Moellering vs. Simms, was announced as settled, hy counsel, and tb*'- rest were held over until a special s-ittiag to be held by Mr. .Justioe Beck in the first week of June. The reason lor tlie adjournment is that thrw jiwi^^s tif the Supremo Court are enga>;e�l uu the Royal Con*-iiiission enquiring- 'iut� the Alberta 4c Great Waterw.'iys luatber, leaving ott-ly two judges t.o k>ok alter the regular court bdsines"; of the province. Chief .hisVicc Sllton .sits in Edmonton on Monday ALEX. M. Mf^aUEEN 1)1 Et^ YEHTERDAY POLICE COURT I Following are the cases tried in! tlie police court before Magistrate' .Vlac.dougall this morning: i Mr. Kropenik. charged wltli allowing two cows to run at large on Bailey street, pleadenocking was heard upon the Itecruitiiig will start about .May .'� door They immediat^'ly tiled into iiiul on .May i:! Sergt. Instructor Clil-^ court, and through their foreman re-ford, of the R.C.H..A., Kingston, will, turned a verdict of "not guilty.' turive. �o that the men may ipceive a course of Instruction lor a month before the corps goes to camp. Full iMiuipment is expected tor this camp, 'llie corps has engaged temporary (luarters on DutTeriii street lor two years. .�\ sjiecial trtiin will leave Lolhbiidgo at nine o'clock on the morning of .lune 14 to take the Cardston s(|uad-ron arid the l-.ethbrldge battery to Calgary. There will be a thousiiiid men in ili(> Calgary camji. FORTY THOUSAND MINERS WILL RETURN TO WORK I'itt.sburg, .Aiuil -'I'he controversy between the 40,000 union miners and the operators of the Pittsburg soft coal district, which has resulted in a month's suspension of mining, was settled late tonight. The miners will return to work on .Monday. THE LAST BOONE .Marietta, Oa., April lU).-Captain W. li. Boone, the last descendant of the famous hunter, Daniel Boone, and a prominent banker of this city, died at his home here last night after an illness of sever.-.l weeks. Ye.-iterda.v -.lie dt^aii.h took place of .\le.\ .VI. .McCJii-. dr:'.w. 4- + + + LOCAL F!R-;c Land & Coal t!o. have io iuK the C. P. ft. with p�.sl.s ams l+teK'i'Pli poles to lli�-amount of !(8tl,t. >lr. Nogar, w'l)�> is an experienced mill man, iDtt^nnl- piitUug ia an up to-|Hu I41 'take orders for ail kinds of IkoIiIidj', aititorial, bridtts. etc. 4- + 4' + + + + T + + �J- + + BUILDING PERMITS C. 10. Prossf!, IrtcHtiy fitreet, dw�H-ine, SiOflt). .v. W, Cray, !.''l ling, %'^b(i. T. Kennedy. Miinl