John Abraham Versus Elmer TurngrenVtgt 4 — THE TRIBUNE — Sunday, March 31.Go On Record...[The following are Interviews conducted recently by Tribune staff members with Harvey mayoral candidates John Abraham and Elnier Turngren. The interviews, tape-recorded, ran considerably longer than thrt space necessary; consequently the material was edited of considerable extraneous conversation. Every attempt was made to preserve both Mr. Abraham s and Mr. Turngren's stands on the various issues. Parenthesis within the content of the interviews are words added by the Tribune for clarity. The unedited interviews are on file at the Tribune office for public inspection.]Q. Would it be possible and said, well John, we do ELMER TURNGREN I w ith this as a common ob- not make a 145 horse-power jective of the city council engine, but this year it is i that the small savings that only 135. I say, well O.K. we health nurse? And from I could be effective in every should have changed the j department would contribute specifications to 135 hocse-* to this thing. It wouldn’t be power or over, but according quite fair to expect you or to the bids they bid on the whoever it might be. the car and the specifications I commissioner of P u b 1 i c called for 145 horse-power I Health and Safety to provide and they didn’t have it so, for a nurse for the total therefore, I didn’t want it. amount of $6,000 a year. It wasn’t right. Now in any- this subject with a number of 1 A. This would have to be thing we do, as you know, we people and including some of with the cooperation of all are allowed up to $1,500 be- the health center people andn . if the need is there we I thing to provide it, in accord-(horribly neglected and i\Are you in favor of should do everything to pro- ance with the need ahd in ac- lowed to deteriorate to ahiring a full-time public vide it. cordance with what the quali- point where it s shameful forQ: Do you think that the fied people who are handling anvone to come into the citvfacilities at the library are this particular function find hall and see its present conciiinadequate? If they are in- I in their good judgment to be tion. However I think a goodadequate, what could be necessary. jiook should be taken at ourdon.lt;j jat d? yo“th!:k I Q- Would you adhere to I present piece of property tocould be done to rectify the a rigid poiicy of awarding see whether or not it can howhat source of revenue would you meet her salary, if you feel one is necessary? This is a subject that seems to have been brought up during the primary campaign.A: Well, I have discussedsituation? Now I would pre-JOHN ABRAHAM happened, why, I can’t anQ. Are you in favor of suer. I don’t know whv. _________hiring a full-time public Q. The reason was that she of the commissioners, the fore we have to have a bid apparently they do have ahealth nurse0 asked for a raise and the maor and h,s department, on anything. It used to be need for it, but my first ques- A. Yes. I am. I have facts funds just weren’t there to and every department, I $500. tion was, if the need was here .and figures to show why we retain her, so she quit and think that thls a tying wej Q. During the primary now, IS here how, why wasn’t Ineed a public health nurse, took another job. ad have reaze and set campaign, each of the candi- this determined a number of,I jur-t received these and I Personally, myself, I think down an economy in all de- dates for mayor, as a matter years ago, and some stepsthink that this is a thing that that the amount of citizens Par*ments bu* 8lve them of fact I think candidates for taken? 1 understand that the Li' a must as far as the city and the amount of help that s the services that they are every office, came out in fa- health center has undertaken fof Harvey is concerned. needed by a public nurse is ent,tled t°- Now. one reason vor of doing something about to finance what program they ' .F r example, there has very essential. For this rea- wby u,waSua i^ua8ainst the city hall. If you are elect- have now, with the use of %been premature babies the ~ u'“ *u ———amount of 56 born in the city of Harvey and who called for follow up care and togive them advice on a premature baby. Doctors are not always available, not that a nurse would always be available; but we could send her there quicker possibly than we could get a doctor to them. We have a lot of mentally retarded children in the city of Harvey and who tio we have to give them advice. what to do, where to go, the help that they need? Now we have 121 cases of TB reg-i'tcred in the city of Harvey.Yhere are 18 active cases, 10 new cases, less than 20 per cent of the population are x-rayed for TB. Whether you j *—son even if it costs the city of a Pub,ic health nurse some edt do you plan to do any- funds coming from the time ago was for this reason, thing about It and how would United fund. There was some 11 would like to see a public y0U g0 about planning for a question as to whether the health nurse hired but the new cj(v hall, remodeling of United fund would provide I city would only have the ob- the present facilities or any the means for keeping up ligation to see that the sal- „ther ideas that you might even what they have now. Of ary was there for her. We have Which at least would course, this necessitated look-have qualified people on the gjve tls SOme kind of a feel- ing to other sources of in-Harvey Health Center board, fag {j|at we can t,P proud ftff come for a public nurse, butI could go on and mention rather than one you’re it seems to me that this bears sume that this means both (people who have devoted a ashamed to take people to? some real investigation and! in number of volumes and jot of time strictly under | ^ -^ye|| here s my ^ink- certainly ^ the need exists,! maybe in the physical plan, their supervision and not • ajong {j,at jjne ajrter Eet. and I’m not sure that it does, i A: Well, actually I am not»rtv£ tThi«C‘iUm!XthfnltifnF,in* *n,° ,his tbin8 mQre and if “ hadn't «xsted for four!too much acquainted with the advice. This is my thinking more pjrst j think that years* hut if the city is re- problems that confront thecity work or the purchase renovated and at what cost of equipment to (he lowest tt can be renovated and if it bidder who meets the spe- is possible and practical and cifications? feasible to explore that pos-A: I think that only rea- libilty; however, don't over-sonable, provided that we can l°ok the fact that maybe we encourage our local business- ne?d a more adequate facil-men to bid and to come in the *ty and maybe we need a new ball park. I would certainly facility. If we do, certainly give first consideration to our go into it from every possible local businessmen, and hope aspect to make certain that that they would cooperate to we don’t make any false the extent that they could be- moves on it, that we select come the lowest bidder and the proper site, that the cost awarded the contract. I think is within reason, that the we should patronize our local whole program be properly people and we should give publicized so that the people each one as equal considera- know what we’re getting tion as we possibly can. into and why we re getting Q: During the primary into it. Certainly no moves in campaign, each of the can- .that direction would be made didates, not only for mavor, °n my part until a thorough But I think the whole field. 111 1had something to say about the wav down the line to con-a new city hall. Do you be- sider the best and most eco-lieve that there is a neew nomical wav in which to pro-for a n e w city hall, or vide adequate facilities for would you have some other i housing our city offices, plan of remodeling the And here again I would present facilities and if favor combining forces and elected how would you im- (taking the health center-r !,h.in„g-,bie„C,anUS(ti.STn!.' the citv in itself, all over the dul1red t0 furnish u •«« llbrar-v and here again is an plement your plan for city (where were paying rent onririnnJLf City, not just the city hall. fee* ,a an asset and * avenue where the thing hall Improvement: that, and taking the water dothen you get into politics as .. there ,hou.d hp \ 'needed thing, then we could • .............far as the city nurse is con- ^“up. a LTer d»‘his and I think it could beO Jn ether werdc If vn« ' PlannPr hired- to °Ver a °Ut ? “k*®Q. In other words, If ou , f nrnhipm* Whpr* I income, primarily becausehire a city nurse, her respon- ‘1° “hK ^ece meal lt;bat selt;?™ be the fundsH^v‘Health* (Vnter'ind whlch has been done before, ithat provides for the contin-®.7/„.?7 5 £% J™’ in trouble. In the first I he nty Now. ofknow this or not, but this is I JOHN ABRAHAM Wfact. These are 1961, not'1962, figures. Harvey about approximately, could ttM between tte Ctty Cww.1^-^ ^ l«llmlMting or eeonomliing inof cancer but who didn t hir» a top-notch city nurse, ell and the Health Onter citv hal| at ,hp ,lmP tha, an other areas a n d perhapshave the amount {necessary] to keepnot to the C ity Council. The ^ th ‘ e shouid have course. I think this should beHo. between ^LT^Coun' been’a combination police coupled with a good look atell and the Health 'Venter and fire dePartment plus the ehnnnatmg or economizing ,nho didn't ■« a P-noicn city nurse, ell ad the Health Center cj ha|| ^ th# u other areas and perhapsof money Q. The second part to this ol these ,hi»8a w*re done. elinVnatm« J°bs that ar«......... thn«iP Question: Previously, the 1 °«nen and tne noara or tne t needed where we might beamount of people in the hos- health center has had to de- Health (\nter- This *» what t thTcify is go?ng to ghivf overloadod ,n the other de*pital to help them, give them pend on the United Fund °« ^ean- {J u a mnlt Partments- 1 think certainly,advice, show them what to and the Community Chest for A. They are qualified peo-do. and I think the public their support to keep grow- pie on there. I know that. * 8 8nurse would be essential for ing. Now if we should hire a Q- s«ond ®n#.the;f’ help and the coo^rati^n of that job. Chronic diseases we full time nurse and the Unit- th. the fa‘ the A C I because^there areh.,ve no count of but we do ed Fund feels that .« simply «h. lihr.ry .e. J* AXJ „have [of] venereal diseases, cannot assume her salary as aapquaie. mI is a known fact there are an obligation, this then A. No. I have talked to Rnow . * yM times the number report- would become a city obliga- several of the people over . . . ma.tpre i that have it which the tion. Now if we had to pay a there, and of course the li- . h 9 , doctors do not report girl $6,000 where do we get brary has progressed in the fine ”e .veHealth supervision in pa- ** ««ney? last six. seven, eight years to Irochial schools in order to A. As you know we had a a P°mt. Of course, the town 'etc goin„ to acomply with the state law surplus of money. The mon* J* Jf I m not mis- tw* fr pr0«ram mjghtevery school must have a ey that belongs to the people, taken, thev did stop people ^ ^ jo-year program wherenurse to supervise the health I think it should be spent ^rom out-of-town onmmg in t- R f 1Q- -am. St John the Bap- for the people. I don't say here a lot or they had to pay ^ *0rk for 10 yearashould be thoroughly investi- A: Well, I would say that partment where we re paying gated, make a determination there exists a need for some rent on that and trying to where we are, what we think more adequate facilities than combine them into one facil-we have to do, devise a plan we have. I would say that our ity where we can economize to do it, and then do it. But present facilities have been (Continued on Page 51 I am not now in a position to | say what should be done because I haven't studied it ade quately to give an honest answer on it. One comment I would like to make in con junction with that, is that like anything else in this city, if the need is there, again, certainly we should do every-tist church. St. Susanna, Sev- you should go in the red, but f extra fee 1 think some ^hevkhavekdone^n the*water en Day Adventist schools do I say that each department h‘^8 can be done to see thatnot have these. Ascension head should watch. Every the P™per books the proper pfaPnar,h^,hey ve been work has a nurse a half a day a three months he would be supervision over there which |^n0„ ih,t w S uTby week. St. John the Baptist given a resume of what he * {“»* 1,5 raally ,h“wed lb Ray Robinson and Harold church actually took over spent, how he’s spending his in lhe last two ears- Wetmore to each year do t , t section of Phoenix over money, so that he doesn't go They are Processing but. moref and waterthere. They had no Cook overboard. Of course, you Jhey need help along the j8 essential as ftr as industryr *: * * msc. The Cook get yourself, well, you might | \ if concerned t0°- You have* . v iurse used to go in have a couple of squad cars of ^hlf,ther £unds would to have that or you can gett Seven years a : we that are smashed up or same- available, where you could industry.1 i a public health nurse in thing like that which you add an add»lion to it or what q y ’ . . .. - uty of Harvey._What dj _L %,Z.....! Tr^LTdTnT.g^ALWAYS IN STYLENIELSENHARVEYOVER 2000 NEV AND USED CARS SOLD EACH YEAR BY NIELSEN CHEVROLET Hert Mr* tom* of tb* rtatont• NIU Service — Open 1:10 a m to 9 p.m. Mon-day thru Friday• Free Taxi Service to * from I.C. 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