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I have interrupted.Lord ASHLEY complained that a promise made to him had been violated, with reference to the factory com-mUsloD, by his Majesty's government. He had been promised that the whole of the instructions given to the commissioners should be laid on the table of that house before the commissioners should be sent on tbeir mission, and yet the commissioners had been gone from town sir weeks before the information he required was lairl before the house. He had wished to know even who the com* roUsionert were, and this he did not know until they had left London. He did not mean to say that he should not have approved of the gentlemen appointed, but he should have wished to have suggested some points for particular inquiry by them. He now begged to ask the noble lord (Alihorp), as an honest man, if he thought it right in the commissioners to exclude from the place of their inquiry a shorthand writer t All he (Lora Ashley) could say was, that unless every word of the evidence given before the commissioners was taken down in shorthand, and laid before that house, the whole proceeding would be nugatory And unavailing.Lord ALTHOEP said, that the instructions given to the commissioners were given with the utmost fairn ss and candour, and be had no doubt the commissioners would act with the tame spirit* He did uot say that the evidence ought not to be taken down by a short-hand writer, but he was decidedly opposed to the publication of any part of the evidence until the whole should be laid before parliament.Lord STORMONT said, that the bouse could hot receive the evidence at all unless idkere taken down by a sworn short-haud writer. They, could: not receive the mere representations of the commissioner* as evidence.Lord ASHLEY said, that a short-hand writer had actuslly been refitted by the commissioners to be ad. mitted*Mr* ROBINSON said, that be helievtd the whole commission wauuuhing. but a pretext for delay, and prevent the Factory Bill from pasting this sestion.An Hon* UiuBta Jttthit the commissioner* wear merely taking note* of the evidence, after the manner of Judge*' notes, which could never be received by that house as the evidence realiy ghreu.Lord ASHLEY said that he was empowered by all the operatives In the factories to support the bill that bad beenl brought in by him, without alteration, and he should certainly do so. (Cries of Oh, and^ Not all the operatives.)Sir C. PHILLIPS said, that in the present excited State of the public feeling on'this subject, it would be highly improper to have the proceedings made public.Mr* O'CONRLL sdftFthat the former investigation on ibis subjec was at the ftstsnce of the operatives, and they did not object to publicity; why now, therefore, should the masters object to publicity, on ah inquiry being instituted by them ?Lord ASHLEY said that the rtaionl.he bad been empowered by all the operators was, that be bad received bis instructions[fromdelegates that had been sent up to London from the operatives, and who had been elected by universal sufragv. He* however, begged pardon of the bouse if .he had said more than be perhaps ought toJuvesaidaato the powers vested in him on this occasion*
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London Guardian and Public Ledger
London, Middlesex, GB
Tue, Jun 04, 1833
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