burn osre, taereoy arousing puoiw scnumcni against the strikers.Zo tbe beginning of bis afternoon tastlmony Mr. Howard lold about the conference of labor leaders al the Drlw» louse otd said Mr. Dobs did not advise either Mr. aompers. Mr Sovereign or Mr McJIrtdo or any ether lobor leadore to oouniel men beneath them toatrlke.Mr. Howard advocated tho government ownership and operation of rotlronla to pro-rent nuch troubles in tho future. As to Arbitration, tbo tabor loader bud little faith In It# efDoacy unlere It was voluatnry.General Master Workman Sovereign, of tho Knights of Labor, followed, lie eUd he knew little Of the grievance# of tbo Illinois Central employes and coihparatlvoly little about Hie Book Island, cicapt that tho latter road was the subject of a dUouoolon In a contention at Deo Molico before tho (oaorol strike In Chicago-Concerning tbo vlolonco and destruction of property, Mr. Sovereign said bo bellered the burning cf tare was tho work of United State# dnputy marshall. Ho bod rood Information tiled with tbo mayor of Chicago by do police deportment which JwetlOed that belief.•“I do net believe arbitration will avoid such •trikes,” bn said in conclusion. Voluntary arbitrated is tco slow and compulsory arbitration Is not u remedy.Reread Day's Test mony.CaiCAOO, Aug. li.—It is a uoeatloo whether the eomtnleUon will Do able to got much Information from tbo railway managers. Tho commission has the power to summon witnesses, bst osonot compel them i© answer question* There U no doobt mat ti cargo M. Pullman. Vice President Wtckv, General Managers Bg»o, St. John and other corporation ofBdals will bo called. Whether tboy will testify or Dot Is quite another matter.Ueorge W. Lovwjoy, former ysrdm»ster at La Salle, III., for iho Bock Island, tuvtlfled that ho was discharged Juno 19 for reasons unknown to him. The employee of tbe Rook Island strcok hecauee of a loosl grievaaoo and of the Pullmaa trouble* Tbo Boek Island pooplo, tho witness declared, will nt employ a member of the American Railway union. Uls plan for preventing strikes was government ownsmbip of rniltcads. He thought compulsory srbltratloa unsatisfactory.Sylvester Heliher, secrolary of the American Railway umioa, was the oeif witness. He thought that tbo eauso of tho boycott was the grtevance of tho Pullman cmployoo. Tho Pullman employee were organised o# a lodge of tho American Railway union. To a committee of ths American Railway union which waited on them Man-ger Wlckes nod Mr. Pullman said tho grievances would be Investigated.wage* wste out severely and unequally. There was dlsiatlsUctloD with tbe tcoal administration ond with tho abuses of the foromsit The men did not hnio a reduction of tbe rent when tho nagco wore out. and the men felt that Jus-lioe oosld not bo received. Me. Pullman and Mr. Wicket are not so much to blame for tho ptoioal slate of affairs. The difficulty Is with tbo local administration If Mr. Pullman bod boon In elewer relationship with htt mea and If rent bad been reduced whM tho wages wero tbo strike would boro been avtsted. I don’t know how much tho rent should hive been reduced. Tbo Pullman company atnrts out with tbe Idea of a system of paternalism and tho sworn *## founded to Improre tbo worlclngmon. I contend thot tho comzany should not out tbo wages of their old employes, but oct from tbo standpoint of tho palerniliitlc system.Mr. Carwardlno went on to eipln how he had met tbo ooramlttoo of tho Pullman atrlkero ond hod Interviewed Mr. Deho ood endoavored to hove ibem declare tho boycott off. Ho woo cvm an advocate ot strikers, was Inclined much In favor of arbitration and tbo government management of railroad* Ho had been charged with being an anarchist un« a ooolollu. It wo# Impossible to bo both. Anarcly be repudiated entirely; he was what might bo called a Christian aocinl-Ut- Referring to tho strike ho sold be thought tho conduot of tho strikers bod been remarkably god Ho said ho know slily-four fam-illeo aero icon to be evicted at pullman. and a’ftcr bo loft tho stand tald bo wav in tho city to raise moooj aomo way to stop tbo ejectment proceeding!.Eugene V. Debs ban'telegraphcd tho commission that bo Is recovering from bis recent Illness, but« account of iho etcknei# of bis wife, ho *111 not bo able to appssr for exumln-atlon before tbo middle of nest week.R. G. DUN CO.'S OPINION. Ileport on the Business Slluatloa la Many Cities.n. O- Duo Si Co.’a weekly review of trade say*’Tho new tariff. If ilgnod by tho president n» expected, provides a detinue basis for busl-ne#« No lupplemenui legislation Is thought pins lb le until ceil year at least. Largo Improvement has been expected from any lettkmeot, tho more tecouso of a vast amount of business deferred from week to week la tbe hope of more dednlte oohdltlon#. Tho rush of surh business, or ores s pan of It. might easily double transactions for a Urns. It !• not to ba overlooked that tbe offset of now duties dgoo many twanchai of Industry anil trade is zretcomatlesl. and may be determined euly after some moetha of oicerlenoe.Pullman company's sintomtnt that thooom-piny’s books might be kokod over by tbo on* pisjos not merely a atnleinent by one of tbo olerk* When tho cmployw wsnt to Investigate tho books they were refused. Ho ■old ihat tho Pullman branih of tbe Amer.oon Railway union was formed dating tho last of March and tho month of April Nearly all of tbe «l»0 employes of the company Joined tho union. Bach man paid one dollar for tho prlv-llcgM of membership. Of all Iho omployes be-tweon earn and 3.CC0 lived la Iho horses of tho company.Min Xnry Abbott Wood, who' worked In tho •krtrlcst department at Pullman. woo tho Mil wlinoan. She sold ibo was n member of tho American Hallway unlea ond wav one of iho Pullman striker*. Hor father had died •ana Umo ago In the company's omploy. Sbo hoi to support her mother catho oco dollar a dsy she received freon tho Pullmaa company. She lived In one of the Pullman houses and paid *17.71 o month, kiss Wood showed tho commlstios a nctko ot ovlotlon, datod May S, she had received from tho com-piny. She tostltled that she had paid hor ron% to April 30. Tho company, by mlstako, bad credited the rent to her Uoter. When iho hiked for a rectlffcollon abc was rcfuasd. Sbo had act yet boon evicted Prank P. McDonald, a locomotive engineer on Ibo Chicago Great Wetlarn was ntxl called-Be said that sometimes bo was compelled to remain on continuous service from sixty to oovrety*iwo hours without ret* Mr. MoDon-old wont into an extended account of tho ttoubleon the Chicago and Great Wcsieru. It *ii couved by n refusal cf the company to restore wage*, which hod torn cut Mr. MoDonnld sold hn opznoei tho recent strlUo bocauso be thought the American Hallway ualon was not strasg enough to light the gtutal manager# In the hard tunes when #* many men wero out of work. He did not think tbe strike would be aucremfnl. Be voted for tbo strike only boo«u»o bo was so Instructed by his laoal union.“I am opposod lo striker In general. said Mr. McDonald, but when Ihs ledsrat govern-inoul will do nothing for us. and wo huve no wcapta but tho atrlke. we must uie It. If It were not for utrlkes tbe rallrosd men In this ooaniry would bo working lor oos-talf she pay tboy sro now getting.''Aaktd what bo koew abont the stoppago ot mill trains tho wltneu soM I bat the Chlcigo t. Gnat Western mall Irsln No. *on Juno Z* last wu killed by the management of that rood and It# crow wos used to take out an ox-cureiM train to Sv Clnlrv. This mall train wai cbatrooled by the rolluuy manogora and nee by the striker* or the member# of tho American Railway union.McDonald told how It was imposnlblo fori-i.n.lr it hi it,,pi i—.