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New Mexican (Newspaper) - January 28, 2005, Santa Fe, New Mexico Friday January 28 2005 THE NEW MEXICAN A3 CLOTH Continued from Page Al a look at the Shroud of Turin Rogers had never heard of it The priest sent booklets that told about a 14VfooMong linen cloth wrapped around Christ after the Roman cru cifixion It bore his imprint They were sopious I just about threw them Rog ers said of the booklets Rogers noticed a photo graph that made him curious It showed scorched spots on the cloth caused by a church fire in 1532 if the shroud was a fake made with paint of some kind the material wouldnt look like that An expert on how heat affects materials Rogers knew this He agreed to join the Shroud of Turin Research Project He brought 32 samples from the shroud which is stored at a museum in Torino Italy back to his home in Los Alamos and published articles But he quit after the leader of the project screamed at him Ray you are not a soldier for Christ In 2000 new information prompted him to reopen the case Some true believers NIH requests probe of Alzheimers researcher Los Angeles Times WASHINGTON Ethics specialists at the National Institutes of Health have requested an outside investi gation of an Alzheimers dis ease researcher who accepted more than from a drug company without seek ing permission or reporting the income to the agency as required according to gov ernment officials familiar with the matter In response the investiga tions unit of the inspector generals office at the Depart ment of Health and Human Services has opened a probe of the researcher Dr P Trey Sun derland III the officials said The inspector generals office is empowered to sub poena documents and to ques tion witnesses It also may refer a matter for criminal prosecution to a local attorneys office or to the Jus tice Department Based on interviews and public records the Los Angeles Times reported last month that Sunderlands paid services for Pfizer Inc often overlapped with his govern ment role For instance at the same time Sunderland accepted consulting and speaking fees from Pfizer he led a study of Alzheimers patients in which the com pany collaborated In the spring of 1998 Sunder lands NIH staff began provid ing the company with samples of spinal fluid that the govern ment employees collected from elderly patients who visited the agencys research hospital in Bethesda Md The research collaboration with Pfizer spanned about five years sent him a paper that sug gested the samples tested were from a section rewoven in medieval times I can prove theyre full of blank blank Rogers recalled thinking I still had archive samples from the right In a peerreviewed scien tific journal Thermochimica Acta he published startling findings on Jan 20 In the 1980s scientists from three universities concluded the cloth wasnt very old The linen sheet was determined to be a medieval fake But this month Rogers said he determined the cloth was between and years old which could have easily put it at the time of Christ I was really embarrassed that I had to admit that these people were Rogers said This patched area was not chemically or physically similar to the rest of the cloth I could prove it in The samples used in the 1988 tests came from a sec tion of the cloth that was rewoven in the Middle Ages according to Rogers Chainsaw MonFri 85 Sat 812 Santa Fc Power Equipment Sales Wr Wf Sl 471 R6JO fl77 221 the best New Mexican Cuisine in town Lunch Buffet 11 Off Your Dinner with purchase of or more after pm with this ad ad expires 416 A g u a Fria 9885991 Rogers said he hasnt become an instant believer however At 78 and battling terminal cancer hes sticking to science Here youve got blood spots Youve got a real shroud You draw your own he said 1 am not a theologian I dont want to be a theologian I want to keep my objectivity toward this thing and so I dont go past this Rogers admits he can neither prove nor disprove many things He has deter mined the drops of blood are authentic but until he gets results from the DNA tests he ordered from a international expert he cannot be sure a human shed that blood Another problem Jesus wasnt the only man crucified And Rogers has struggled with the authenticity of the Bible I cannot accept any of the written stuff the biblical accounts of Christs death as Rogers said But I can say the scientific evidence does not rule it He knows he is walking a fine line And hes nervous about it I say I know a lot about the Unlimited CRANES WINTER WRITE SALE 328 S Guadalupe 9822181 chemistry and the physics of this object Its not like a UFO or a ghost I could pick this thing up and look at it under a microscope and I could take samples of it Its not one of these spooky things Its a real piece of he said If I could reject the hypoth esis that this was the shroud of Jesus I would have done it But being an honest guy and its embarrassing some times to be honest when what youre finding out agrees with the lunatic fringe or the true believers but to be perfectly honest Id have to say at this moment that I cannot prove that this is not the cloth that was used to wrap the body of Jesus that was Journey to Turin Long ago Rogers wanted to be an archaeologist When he was a chemistry student at the University of Arizona he wondered why the archaeology field wasnt mak ing more use of chemistry He considered becoming an archaeologist but his archaeol ogy professors said hed make Lunch Dinner 402 N Guadalupe 9849112 a better living as a chemist But he took classes with top archaeologists When he could he ran tests on the resi dues inside ancient pottery His career took him to Los Alamos National Laboratory where he was a chemist from 1952 to 1988 And word got around that he was willing to look at odd samples When he could he tested artifacts One day Norris Bradbury then the lab director stopped by to talk Rogers said Brad bury gave him permission to analyze materials for archae ologists and museums even though such research wasnt part of the labs mission The thermochemist got drawn into major discover ies He became an expert on earlyman sites in the South west I did so much of it they elected me to be a fellow for he said referring to an esteemed status given to some lab scientists At work explosive com ponents of nuclear weapons were Rogers main focus What he learned about the radiation effects on organic materials and the chemi cal properties of polymers served him well with the shroud research he said But in other ways he was not prepared for this high profile artifact It is the most frustrating and in some cases degrading thing Ive been involved Rogers said At the lab his colleagues were what he described as eth ical rigorous hardnosed scien such as Enrico Fermi When he got involved with the shroud investigation he saw some of the shallow est most idiotic science he had ever seen There were people who have been work ing on the shroud who would have sold tickets to the cruci he said There are an awful lot of dishonest people involved in He says hes an old and his body doesnt feel as good as hed like But at least his mind is active His fascina tion is swelling again He is full of ideas for more research papers to write on the shroud You always have some ammunition you havent fired Rogers said American Pine Table 10L TRAVEL BUG Coffee Shop Sama DUO Mini Sat Jan 29 M pmSlide Show Sea Kayaking in Bajas Magdelena Bay NOW THROUGH SUNDAY ENTIRE STOCK OF FALL WINTER PERMANENTLY REDUCED CLEARANCE TAKE AN EXTRA Mens Ladies Juniors Kids Apparel Shoes Intimate Apparel Accessories Home Discount taken at register Sorry no price adjustments given on previous purchases Discount is off of ticketed price Discount applies to permanent markdowns only Selection varies by store Limited to stock on hand We cannot accept phone or mail orders on clearance merchandise Basic nonseasonal merchandise is not included EHllaids lo credit approval restrictions apply SAVE 10 nn The first day when you open a Dillards 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