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New Braunfels Herald Zeitung (Newspaper) - October 9, 1980, New Braunfels, Texas Thursday * Taylor Communications Inc. 25 cents October 9,1980 tole of lim Center Como. r. 0, Box 1*5*06 wallas, 'I’exai 75235 MB BM    |H|    BM    Mj^A    J rterald-ZeitungLands Park: how do we perceive it? Vol. 89 - No. 77 24 Pages — 2 Sections (USPS 377-880) New Braunfels* Texas An Aggie shares a laugh with Minnie Wight after park conference Architectural landscape students outside Lizann building pool information on Landa Park that question, as you can see.” Q: “What exactly do you want to accomplish? Do you want to create more revenue, or do you want to eliminate people just driving through sightseeing?” Winkler: “Well, it cost us $300,000 last year just to maintain the park, versus $16,000 revenue from renting picnic areas. That’s peanuts. We want to create a little revenue and in the process control the crowds.” Carroll Hoffman, Wurstfest Association director: “We don’t mind having tourists in our hometown. It’s great to go in and get everything free. But on Monday mornings during the summer, they spend two or three days cleaning up the trash left over from weekends. Nobody paid to throw it down, but somebody has to pay to pick it up. Another expense coming up is the water problem. That river used to be IO or 14 feet deep. It’s two feet, now. It’ll cost anywhere between a half a million and a million and a half dollars to clean out the sludge and sediment from the floods. Our biggest expense for the next IO years will be that lake. Somebody has to pay for it. The city can’t have that burden around its neck.” Q: “How sure a supply of water do you have? What guarantee do you have the springs will flow?” Leroy Goodson, Guadalupe-Bianco River Authority director of planning and development: “There is no guarantee. Nowadays recharge and usage is on an even par. The more people that use water from the Edwards underground watershed, the more urgent the need for surface water facilities.” Minnie Giesecke Wight, private citizen: “I’m trying to absorb all there is to know about this tremendous water problem. Do you know, the latest Texas Water Rights Commission report states flatly that ‘it will not be feasible to save the Comal Springs?’ Well, I want to save the Comal. I live on it and go swimming in it every day.” Q: “Don’t people know about these problems? Why isn’t there more concern?” Wight: “No, people don’t know. In San Antonio, people are saying ‘we’ll never have a drought problem — we have the Edwards underground water system.’” Goodson: “San Antonio, as far as I know, has not met their (surface water) responsibility. They’re going to utilize every drop, until they have a problem.” Q: “Is aquifer pollution a problem? Do businesses in the area discharge wastes that find their way to the park?” Hoffmann: “You can’t tell. They just started monitoring the water from test wells. The problem is, an individual owner of a piece of land can drill his own well for irrigation. These five counties (in the Edwards Underground Water District) live off each other, and they all depend on the water for different reasons. Uvalde and Medina use it for irrigation. New Braunfels and San Marcos depend on it for tourism. Who’s going to say who has the first right to that water?” Q: “What are the principal problems the city is trying to solve for luanda Park?” Tieken: “Overusage, and an understaffed park department.” Engineer Ed Ford: “The park can accommodate only so many people. Once you get one more person than ifs designed for, you’re open to vandalism. Yes, overusage is the primary problem.” Winkler: “Vandalism is one minor problem that could have been major. For a while we were paying $75 a month per commode in repair or replacement expenses.” Joe Alvarado, a member of the city's Riverwalk Committee: “It’s a matter of numbers. Most park users appreciate the place. Bul you get one person out of 500 — that one person is going to ruin what 409 are trying to keep.” Q: “Are you narrowing the whole problem down to overcrowding?” Tieken: “We are devoting so much of our park budget to picking up junk. That’s why some kind of token fee is necessary. People, unfortunately, appreciate what they have to pay for.” Q: “Say we designed you a perfect park. What would the city do to keep it that way? What kind of campaigns do you run to educate people against littering or vandalism?” Winkler: “We’ve put up signs, only to see them torn down. On July 3 we put in new seats in the gazebo overlooking the water. By July 4 they were in pieces. You wouldn’t believe it.” Q: “Is there anything on paper in terms of a declaration of the purposes of the park, who it’s for?” Tieken: “That’s an interesting question. It forces us to make the choice: either for the people who live here or for the people who come in from out of town.” Q: “What type of social character do you want the town and park to reflect? Winkler and a panel of knowledgeable citizens, As the sun went down, the Aggies finished their briefing and trooped into the Lizann Building. Their questions, and the answers, were revealing. When the meeting broke up an hour and a half later, Winkler’s main reason for cooperating with the study — the infusion of fresh perspectives and ideas from outsiders — had partially paid off, even before the results were received. Here are a few of the questions asked: Q: “Do you plan on doing something about the amount of people who come through here? I mean, this isn’t just a design problem, it’s a people problem.” Winkler:“By next year we’ll have implemented a plan requiring an admission charge, maybe two dollars. There are a lot of other ideas in the mill — it may require blocking some entrances, or making some of the roads one-way. None of it is final, so don’t let anything I’ve said be a barrier to your creativity.” Mayor Pro Tem Barbara Tieken:“There’ll probably be no charge to locals.” Q: “Wouldn’t an ID card be tough on people who are used to just driving through? What kind of identification system would you have to set up to tell the natives from the tourists?” Tieken: “We’re going to put tattoos on everybody, (laughter) Well, obviously we’ll have to have something. A card would be easiest.” Q: “Are there any plans for rerouting the traffic of people who aren’t there for the park, but just to get through from one part of town to the other?” Tieken: “In my opinion, the admission charge should be only during the summer months on weekends. During the week, and during the offseason, I would hope those areas would still remain open. People like to ride through the park even if they don’t stop. It’s refreshing.” Winkler: “I disagree. If we charge at all, it should be all week long. One guy will come in on a weekend and not remember having to pay the last time he was here. He’ll sit there and argue for five minutes. We haven’t resolved By HENRY KRAUSSE Staff writer It’s amazing what students can learn about a town in just one day. Some 45 members of a Texas A&M landscape architecture class huddled on the lawn in front of the Lizann Building at the entrance to Landa Park, and compared notes. They were researching how Landa Park and its section of the Comal River fit into New Braunfels in the minds of the townspeople, and they must have asked a lot of pointed questions. “The lower, more run-down type homes are in this area here,” one student announced with remarkable candor while pointing out an area southeast of the Missouri-Kansas-Texas railroad tracks. “And this ravine here is called Panther Canyon. It’s where the high school kids go to — oh. I don’t know, to get away from authority,” the young lan continued with a smile. “Upriver from the park, it’s private property. There’s no easement for tourists; the homeowners own right down to the edge of the water,” another Aggie revealed. “The city is thinking of eliminating traffic circulation through the park and putting parking lots outside,” one girl reported. The students were pooling their information for a class project, and an ambitious one at that: they will make recommendations to the city on the future of the park and possible solutions to the problems of overuse, vandalism, traffic, erosion and crowding. Individually, they will take a small .section of the river and make a “design study,” complete with drawings on what, ideally, it should look like. To do that, they had to know how New Braunfels views its major tourist attraction. So when they were through walking around the park and visiting City Hall, the planning and zoning director’s office, the parks and recreation department, the Herald-Zeitungoffices, and everywhere else they could think of, they concluded their field trip with a question-and-answer session with Mayor Max Staff photo* I guess that s what we’re really here for tonight.” Tieken: “Well, aside from city-wide functions away from the park, I, for one, have always felt the need for a youth center. Teen-agers here have nothing. The Lizann dress shop here is vacant and it has potential. I should mention that vandalism occurs all over. It’s not confined to New Braunfels.” Q: “We’ve been all over town, and we’ve got varied answers to our questions, but I felt there was some resentment toward outsiders.” Hoff maun: “They don’t mind sharing what they have. They just want people to help take care of it. We want to encourage your kind of person to visit. You have discipline, you want good, clean fun.” The empty building magnified every noise: coughing, voices, the flip of notebook pages. There was an audible rustle now as the students smiled knowingly at each other. Hoffmann continued: “You’re outsiders, coming here to enjoy yourselves. When you start working on this project, ask yourselves: what do you want from the park, and what will you do to enjoy it? We’ve been here so long we can’t see the trees for the forest, sometimes.” Tieken: “We don’t want you to get the impression things are always negative when we talk about luanda Park.” Q: “What kind of linage are you looking for the park?” Winkler: “We want this to be a place for family fun, for getting away from the boob tube and radio. A chance to get outdoors for all people of all ages.” Fred Clark chairs local Reagan-Bush committee Fred Clark, New Braunfels attorney and Rotary Club member, has been appointed by Gov. Bill Clements to be chairman of the Reagan-Bush Campaign in Comal County. In announcing the appointment, Clements said: “Fred Clark is part of the top-notch statewide campaign team we are putting together as we organize all 254 counties in order to carry the State of Texas for Gov. Reagan and our fellow Texan George Bush. Each county is vital to our success, and we are waging an aggressive campaign from one end of the state to the other.” Clements added, “Ifs absolutely astounding the way momentum is building in Texas for Gov. Reagan and Ambassador Bush. Every day, more and more Texans — including many, many Democrats and Independents — are joining in active support of the Reagan-Bush ticket.” Among Texans endorsing Reagan and Bush are former Texas Governors John Connally, Allan Shivers and Preston Smith, as well as former Lt. Gov. and former Speaker of the House of Representatives Ben Barnes. Inside CLASSIFIED......... ____1215A COMICS............ 10A CROSSWORD........ 10A DEATHS............ 16A HOROSCOPE ........ 10A KALEIDOSCOPE...... 1 8B OPINIONS........... 4A RELIGIOUS FOCUS 2B SCRAPBOOK ........ 4B SPORTS............ 6 7A STOCKS ............ 16A TV LISTINGS......... 8B WEATHER.......... 16A 17 persons are indicted One case was passed and 17 felony indictments were returned by the October term of the Comal County Grand Jury which met yesterday from 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Passed for further investigation was Benno Wilke. Indicted for burglary of a habitation was Michael Dwayne Wimberley of Wimberley. Hilberto Ortega Aguirre of 614 Bavarian Drive, Apt. 701 was indicted for aggravated assault with serious bodily injury and for burglary of a vehicle. Ixrnis C. Garza Jr. of Star Route, Ganado, was indicted for unlawful carrying of a weapon on a licensed premise. Ronald Gene Eastman of Rt. 6, Box 432, was indicted for burglary of a non-habitation. Robert Madia of 1223 W. Mill was indicted on two counts—for burglary with the intent to commit rape and for burglary with the intent to commit sexual abuse. Burglary of a non-habitation charge was returned against Dennis Dale Wiatrek of 3227 lasses, San Antonio. Pedro C. Escobedo Jr. of 274 N. West End was indicted for robbery. David E. Gonzalez Jr. of 1245 W. Hopkins, San Marcos, was indicted for burglary of a non-habitation. Francisco Cardenas, 2026 W. San Antonio, was indicted for burglary of a vehicle. ;