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London Pues Occurrences (Newspaper) - November 24, 1847, London, Middlesex �oi. XLVI. PlJE's O CCURR RNCES. From TU �SX> "November the 34th, to SATURDAY November the 28th, 1747. ,.rroI of the Proceedings and Debatct of the l'ciiticaj Club continued.- ltn4 h �ur Ijfi. wui i\ fellfW!. K'f I wert ro have a greater Regard for Popularity than for m� Duty as * Member Ot this Ho-.iff, I (hov\d certiinly join thole who oppoic the Bill now before us> . bur while I have the Honour of a Seat m Aff.mbly, i ih*n always defpife courting* TititDt tltcem among the Vulgar, when I think incontinent with the general and lading intei-ofmy Country. I believe, it will not be delta t in al'ticft every Commodity we deal m, !,e ait underlolJ at Foreign Mai kets, by the French, , iuT,e other ot our Neighbouis upon the Con-�nJ i� 1 believe, be allowed, that the t'lr'rv confluence of this muft at la ft be, the R.inof oui Foreign Commerce, ifnot pre* i,y a fewe tf>; mod penurioufly, bar and will Work to: 'he Jeaft Wages, or icll the leaJr Profit-. (jenrler.en may talk ot efta-|ili(hrng proper Regulations.^nd introducing good ,o(ioms, for coirtcting this Extravagance; but pity will rind it no ealy Matter to alter the Tem-ier of a whole People. We have many and Uriel iws tor letting nil idle Peep'e to Work, and for uniting the Wages ot StrVoi.cs in almolt all Sorts ttBulinels; but tne Fxecution of thole Laws has Iways been found in-practicable ; and, I believe, f we had ever endeavoured to have put them ricfly in Execution, we fhould have ruined infold of improving our Manufactures. Trade hates "onftraint ot every Kind, and will always fly [roma Country where they attempt to lay it in peters. There is no way of making People work, but by rendering it inapoffible for them to fabfift cichouc working; theie is no way of making Peo-),e �oik for (mall Wages, but by Multiplying the lumber of Workmen; there js no way oi' cot-jetting the Extravagance of a People, no more tj�n that of a private Mao, but by depriving tstmot the Means of being eirravaganr, and this l\Sl�,y t5bC*u,! by n"� one a great LNomber ot Rivals in their Bufinefs; for it will tnenbe impoflible tor them to get higher Wages or ft Prtht?i tban are txrrty lufneient for their 5rtlittence; Jtany one asks higher Wages tiwnhis Kinu, no one will employ him; if he asks higher 'one wrjii buy of him; and a Multitude in the fame way of Buftoefa, will always, by Dt-Itees, under-work and under fell one another, till their Wages or Profi tt be brought Jo low a* to afford but a bare Sublicence, according to the Rank whith (uch Men hold among Mankind ro fce-{nerai. Whether ourPeopk herein England live bet* iter; that is. more extravagantly, that the Peoptt cfe-jiKl Rank-do in atvy other Country; is* Fa�, Sir, that cannot admk ot any Prootj therefore I �vwy Gentleman mulVjadge according to what he r t�Wmftlr heard a"nd obierwd s but this is�rtam, ' thir It either is'fo, or is not fo. Le* tne tten firft itppofej that it Is l'&e a great Difcourageroent to Foreign Journeymen, bfcaul'e they can eind no Maftcr of their o* n C^anrrv herc-, to whom they may be tecomrnended and from whom, they may expecl Employment as loon as triey arrive; for'ev�n luppole, wehav;- fome For-e gn Mafters made Denitcns and Icttied aniongft us, they can give no great Encourage men r to Foreign Journeymen to come over, fxcaufe no fuch Denizen can have at a Time above two luch Journeymen. Befides, it is a great Dilt-ourag roeni to Foreign Journeymen to come to a Coun/ry where they can nev^r propofe to be Ma ft is, let their Skill and Succtfs be never lo great, without puling themfelves ro the Lxpen>.e of a Naturalization Bill, or of Letters of D^niracion. Remove thele Impedimcrns, Sir, and if the Peo* pie ot this Country live bttttt th�n ?eople of the fame Rank do in any other Country, the certain conltquence will be, tbat many Foreign Tradesmen, ooth M fters and Journeymen, will come to leuie in this Country. Thole who like good living will come over here, b:caulc they prob-�%le, that thefe Foreigners taugbt G�r Peoglc not on.y the Art of Matnafaotuxesr but alfo laduftry and Frugality } for co'nfidering, tne warlike. Spirit that had been propagated*/and had reigoed among our Peopk feom the T�oe the RonaiTgieit us-to that very Time, and, indeed for Iooqc Ge^ierations at* ter Edward* lild, wc-can hardly ijUWjpie, thqt our People, in genend were much irKimcdj either to Indulrry or Frug^jtyj but as to thriW^r&'^ti^ft happened in aVisTii-jCjOr afrir h"ijYtai%V between FratKe ami us, or the Civil Wars "tpa-| b*pi>eiieil afteirwards bctwetntlie Haufesoi Vorjt,*t>d Lm-' jSafter. thefe Foteigncrf could- have no!grea.t Con-* sero, and'eomcgnendy thefe Wars could not jprevent thxir lettlfi in a Country jwhere they -met witt* lo^mu*;h �aeouragen�ehr. from all which! mult concIudc,,*Sir, that jt the 'Peopk of dtoglahd live better, that is, more ex-'travagantly, than cbc People or cjjiaI junlt in any neirh'-ioiirir.g Country, rfiis Bill will l^e of great Service t-� us, ar.J m;y be a Me^ns of rerif-v?n; lever.iI Branches of our foreign Commerce, which are n^w lo(*, or very mnc+i in Decay. But now, Sir, I ihalJ iuppcfe, thar .he Prop ; of the Kingdom do not live herre-, or rrore extravapsnrly, than the People of equal Rank in anv other Country. In this C-iie, f fhiH grant, that the BiTl will have very little Fff ft as to the bringing over oJ any foreigo Tradpfmen to lettle amcntfr but c^o it, even in this Cafe, have anv had Effctft ? I h:v". heard no one fufg'fted, except that it may fill our Army with foreign S^lJiers j rod is in the T/rrre of a foreign War, whi.hrcay continue God know? how long, I cannot look on tsk bid Eff c?f. Ir rtiy bring into our Army a Number erf foreign Soldiers, but the Act of Ser* tie men t wifl prevent any of them fiora being mid? Officers; and however merry Genriemen may be ibout oar Offi cis being crhploytJ to ratie Re* c uits i-t G-'rmmy, I vv,l]j, that in Time ot Ws-r we had ny Method of recrafring our Armv, rather thin trhrbf htv'mg our Offi�ers (piead over the whole Ifland anJ employed in tr-tpmni-g otn* young Artificers and Libbirers into the cervtce$ rof i: is certain, thar our Miffer Tradelmen in all Softs cf Bufinefs, and Hsewjie oar harmers, begiri already' :o feci thf Bid FftVcts or this pTicr.ce, In Time of Wir thcretort, f cannot think it wOiili be any D.f*'!v Thtc rh- Army fh*il be disbanded, excepting Inch Repimems, Troops, and Cormpanjes, confifhng onif of his M^fty's nattfral born Sub/r:fs, a| fhatl bf parrJcnUriy cjprelfcd in hs M felty's Pro* climatiot). HowevtY, rf Genrleicen think, that evert irr rhe Time of War we owot not to htve any' foreign SoiJierj in oar Army, it can be rto Objection to-'tht? BiU,- bectfafe it nny be gmrded agirnitby a pr ,per Clajle for that Purpoie, AnorH�r Aprrehfr>fiori' Has; indeed, been fu�� ge/feti, bur it H I'trh a one as there is not rher lc*(f Foimdatiori'tar, and' if there were, hr migftc be eafiiy girarded agsinft by a t�* Words interred in; tft^ BiD It has Wen ruggefted, that by the general Wdrds in thfe Bin* that Claufc m tbe Aftot Setfleroertt nwy berfpealed, whereby if is provided, tfelt no ^oteigfler, Chough naTura'Htr'rd, (hall be cf the Privy Council, or Member' of eerier Hdure, or er.jdy ariv OffiOf, Or P.�*ce cR Tru This1 EfdS, it it be a bad oney may, I'fay, 5tt, b8 eifily guarded afn'nft; but however unpopular JC mary be, t mutt deol re my Opinion-, iluc this E * bit Ccttalcffiot be arrended. with any big Confe� qjerJCet to the Nation So geneiat. Tne Rt, Fron, M^nlb^1 j'Of fh.* "th.-rH&ule triy perh*p a^prehentf tri^ffft^,'b be or no'ra*rrh*r'e'l' Weight, becaule ii chcy are i)ry . >eifidnssof'anr Wc igut "tr*ey nay be cafiVy guaTce* a-ainft, bya few p\vper Words in tt>e uiv.. But tttete h two Obkciions ot a private Natuie, 'whr.t* 1 think mytelt obliged to t*ke Nvcuc ut, ttio' I looic upon them both to be ot the fame Nuu.fl with tic Obfection fr*dc by th; L'niiei t,xc.s Atneos, a^aioft a Pbyficha wrtg tu� l�uu w�t a ;