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Lethbridge Herald, The (Newspaper) - October 9, 1909, Lethbridge, Alberta THE LITHBRIDOt DAILY HERALD, IATURDAY, OCTOBtR I, I Ml. PAGE NIMC RINGING SPEECH WHICH AROUSED ALL ENGLAND FAMOUS LIMEHOUSE ORATION BY HON. DAVID LLOYD-GEORGE WHICH SET THE BUDGET BALL A-ROLLING-MASTERLY EXPO- SITION OF GOVERNMENT'S POLICY. all this hostility and animosity is that part which deals with the tara- worth let him ;pty taxer on The Case of Boo tic. Now, there ate several of these cases that I want to give to you. Take the town of Bootle, a town cre- ated very much in the same .way as these towns in the East of purely by the commerce of Liverpool. In 1879 the rates of Bootle were tion of land. Well, now'let us ex- a ground rents were, amine it. I want to invite your attention to a number of con- crete cases fair samples to show you how in these concrete illustra- tions our Budget proposals work. Now let us take them. Let us take first of all the tax. on undeveloped land and on increment. Not far from here, not so many years ago, between'the Lea and the But a police-station means security for property. (Laughter and Not at 'all. The total population of Carnarvonshire is not as am not sure it is as the popu- lation of Limehouse alone. It is a scattered area; no great crowded populations .there. And yet they de- manded for a piece of land which was contributing 2s. a yeas: to the rates, an acre All we say is "If their land is as valuable as all that, that the landlord was let it have the same Value in the as- receiving more from the industry of scssmmt it seems the community than all the rates de- j to possess in the auction room." rived by the municipality Cor There are no end of tnese commerce increased Responding to many requests to do so, the Herald reproduces in extenso 1 the famous Limehouse speech by the Right Hon. David Lloyd George for the Budget League. The Right Hon. Sydney Buxton, M. P-, Postmaster- General, presided. Mr. Lloyd George, who on rising had an enthusiastic reception, said few months ago a meeting was held not far from this hall, in the heart of the city of London, demand- ing that the government should launch into enormous expenditure on the Navy. That meeting ended up with a resolution promising that those who passed that resolution would give financial support to the government in their undertaking. There have been two or three meet- ings held in-the city of London since. attended by the same class of people, hut not :ending up with a resolution to pay. On the we are spending the money, hut they aCre has been.selling; within the last; breathing space, plenty of room for won't pay. What has happened since lew-years at an acre, the workmen 'at the end of their to alter their tone Simply that we Jiave sent in the bill. (Laughter Thames, you had hundreds of acres- of land which was not very useful even for agricultural purposes. li- the main it was a sodden march- The- and the trade of -London1 under free trade (loud tonnage of your ship-- ping went up by hundreds of thous- ands of tons and by millions labor was attracted from all parts of the country to cope with all this trade and business which was done here. What happened There was no hous- ing accommodation. This Port of benefit of the town. In 1898 the rates had gone up to a improving the place, constructing roads, laying out parks, and extend- ing lighting and opening up the place. But the ground landlord was receiv- ing in ground rents It Is time that'he should pay for all this value. (Cheers.) A case was given me from Richmond which is very in- teresting. The town council of Rich- mond recently built some workmen's cottages under a housing scheme. The land appeared on the rate-book as'of the value -of and- being agricul- landlord' only paid half the rates, and you and I paid the rest for.him. It is situated on the extreme edge of the borough, therefore not very accessible, and the town council naturally thought they cases, A Landlord and Straight Shooting. There was a the other day. case fram Greenock The admiralty want- London became overcrowded, and the [would get it cheap. But they did not seaiow the landlord. They had to pay opportunity, of the owners of the j an acre for it. marsh. All that land become valu- The result is that instead of having able "building land, and land which j a gOOd housing scheme with plenty used to be rented at or an of gardens and open space, plenty of _ 1_ _ __ ..-1 il _ f j_'i r j't i j r f J and cheers.) We started pur four Dreadnoughts. eight mil- lions of money. We promised them four'more they cost another eight millions.. Somebody has got to -pay, and then these gentlemen say, "Per- fectly true somebody, has got to pay, but we would rathex that some- body were somebody else." We start- ed building wanted money to pay for the building so we sent the :hat sent it round amongst workmen, and the miners of Derby- the weavers- of High Peak and- 'the Scotchmen of Dumfries, who, like all their countrymen, know the vslns of money. They all dropped in their an'acre, ah acreV an days, forty cottages had acre. Who created thei'; Crowded on two acres. Now, the landlord (Cries of ue Was.; it his energy Was; it his brains Who -made that golden Was land had been valued at its true val- that landlord would have been at any rate contributing his fair share -a very bad look-out.fbr the place if "the public revenue; and it is just it his forethought? It; -.was -'conceivable that- he might have been purely" the combined eSbrts of all the I people engaged in the trade and com- merce of the Port of: trade, i merchant, shipowner, dock laborer. everybody 'except the land lord. (Cheers'.) Now, you .follow with driven to sell at price. An illustration From Wales. I do these not want to weary cases. of that 'Land' worth ;OE But I could give you many, I or an acre running up to thous- ands. During the time it was ripen- ing the landlord was paying; his rates and his taxes not on an acre. It "was agricultural land, and because it was agricultural land coppers. We 'went round Belgravia, i a munificient Tory government and there has been such a howl ever voted a sum of two rail- sinc'e that it has completely deafened lions to' pay half the rates or those poor- distressed landlords and you Old Age Pensions. I and I. bad to pay taxes in order to But they say, "It is not so much enable those landlords to '-pay half the Dreadnoughts we object to, it -their rates on agricultural land, is pensions." (Hear, hear.) If they objected to pensions, why did they promise them (Cheers.) They won forts electipns on the strength of their am. a -member of a Welsh county council, and landlords' even in Wales are not more reasonable. The police committee the other day wanted a site for a police station. Well, you might have imagined that if a land- lord sold lands cheaply for anything it would have been for a police sta- tion. The housing of. the working is a different matter. ed a torpedo range. Here was an op- portunity for patriotism (Laugh- ter.) These are the men who want an efficient navy to protect our shores, and "the admiralty state that one efficiency is straight shooting, and say: "We want. a for practice for torpedoes- on the coast of Scotland." There was a piece of land there. It was rated at something like 10s. a year. They went to the had to pay for now, just you guess, whilst I am finding it out. It had a rating value of 2s., and it was-sold to the nation for And these are the gentlemen who ac- cuse us of robbery and spoliation! Now, all we say is this "In future you must pay one half-penny ,in the pound oh the real value of your land. In addition .to 'that if the value goes up, not owing to your you spend money on improving it we will give for if it goes up owing to the industry and the en- ergy of the people living in that lo- cality, one-fifth of that increment shall in future betaken as a toll by the state." "Cheers.) They say Why should you tax this increment landlords and not on other classes of the They say: "You are taxing 'the landlord be- cause the value of his property is you g0ing Up through; the growth of pop- ulation, through the increased perity of the community. Does not be the the landlord it a gentleman who not earn his wealth. He does not even take the trouble to receive hie wealth. (Laughter.) He has a of agents and clerks to receive it for him. He does not even take the trouble to spend his wealth. He has a host of people around him to do the actual spending for him. He never sees it until he comes to: enjoy it. His sole function, his chief pride is stately consumption of wealth pro- duced by others. (Cheers.) What about the doctor's income? How does the doctor earn his income? The doctor is a man who visits our homes when they are darkened with the shadow of death who, by his skill, his trained courage, his genius, wrings-hope out of the grip of de- spair, wins life out of the fangs of the Great Destroyer. (Cheers.) All blessings upon him and his divine art of healing that mends bruised bodies and anxious hearts. (Cheers.) To compare the reward which he gets for that labor with the wealth which pours into the pockets of the land- lord purely' owing to the possession of his monopoly is a they will forgive me for saying in- solence which no intelligent -nan would tolerate. (Cheers.) Now that is the half-penny tax on unearned in- crement. The Reversion Tax. Now I come to the reversion Aax. What is the reversion tax You have got a :.system in this country which is not tolerated in any other coun- try in the world, except, I believe, Turkey the system whereby land- lords take advantage of the fact that they .have got complete control over land to let it' for a term of years, spend money upon it in build- ing, in developing it. You improve the building, and year by year Vhe value passes' into the pockets of the landlord, and" at the end of sixty, seventy, eighty, or ninety years the whole of it passes away to the pock- ets of a man who never spent a penny upon it. In Scotland they have a system of 999 years' lease.- The Scotsmen have a very shrewd idea that at the end of 999 years there get a shilling an acre for agricultur- al rent, is let to quarrymen for the purpose of building houses, where 30s. or a house is charged for ground rent. The quarryman builds his house. He goes to a building society to borrow money. He pays out of his hard-earned weekly wage contri- butions to the building society for ten, twenty, or thirty years. By the time he becomes an old man he has cleared off the mortgage, and more than half the value of the house has passed into the pockets, of the land- lord. You have got cases in London here. There is the famous Gorringe case. In that case advantage was taken of the fact that a man has the Duke of Westminster. laughter and hisses.) Oh, these they har- ass us (More Daughter.) The Famous Gorringe Case.' Mr. Gorringe had got, a lease of the premises at a few hundred pounds a year ground rent. He built up a great business there. He was a very able-business man, and when the-end got his royalty. put their money .These capitalist! in, and I said. "When the cash what did landlord put He simply put in the bailiffs. (Loud laughter.) Tht capitalist risks, at any rate, tilt; whole of his money the engineer puts his brains in the miner riikr his life. (Hear, hear.) Have been down a coal mine (Cries of- Then you know. I was tell-: ing you I went down other ,day.' We sank down into a pit half a mile- deep. We then walked underneath the. 'mountain, and we did about quarters of a mile with rock ant: shale above us. The earth seemed vtp- be us and above crush us in. You could see the built up a great business, and they say "Here you are, you have built pit-props bent and twisted and suni up a great business here you cannot take it away you cannot move to other premises because your trade and goodwill are .here your lease is coming to an end, and we decline to renew it except on the most oppres- sive terms." The Gorringe case is a very famous case. It was the case of dered until you saw their fibres in resisting the pressure. Sometimes they give way and then there is mu- tilation'and death. Often a spark ignites, the whole pit is deluged ii fire, and the breath of life is ed out of hundreds of breasts by the consuming flame. .In .the very next colliery to the one I descended, just a few years ago, 300 people lost their lives in that way and yet when the prime minister and I knock at the door of these great landlords, and say to them "Here, you know these. fellows who have been "digging up royalties at the risk of their lives, of them are old, they the value of a doctor's business go up j will' probably be a better land sys- in the way The .Doctor's Increment. selves for a moment What is the landlord's increment Who is the landlord? The landlord is a gentle- have not a word to say about him in his personal tern.: :in 'existence and they, are prepared- to i take their chance'of the millenium Ah, fancy their comparing them- i coming round by that time. But in this country we have sixty years' leases. I know dis- Wales where a little bit of barren rock where you could not feed; a goat, where the landlord could not it was going up" every year "by of pounds through your' ef- and the efforts of your neigh- promises. It is true they never car- ried them out. (Laughter.) Decep- bors. Well, .now that is coming to an end. On the walls of four's meeting last Friday were the tion is always a pretty contemptible "We Protest against fraud Vice, but to deceive the poor is thojand (Laughter.) So do I. meanest of But they (Great cheering.) These things I arri say, "When we promised pensions tel1 have only been meant pensions at the expense of the Possible up to the present through the people for whom they were provided. We simply meant to bring in a bill to to contribute to their own pensions." If that is what they meant, why did' they not say so (Cheers.) The Bud- get, as your chairman has already so reminded you, is introduced not merely for the purpose of raising 'fraud" 'of the few and the "folly" of the many. Now, what .is going to happen in the future In future these landlords -will have to contribute to the taxation of the country on the basis of the real val- one halfpenny in the pound Only, a halfpenny And that is what all the howling is about. But there barren taxes, but taxes that are little tax called the mere- tile, taxes that will bring forth fruit mcnt ta security of the country which is j naPPen For the what will e mean to value all the paramount in the minds of the i !and in the kingdom. (Cheers.) And provision for the aged and deserving; tllere you can draw no distinction be- poor it was time it were done" twcen agricultural and other land, It is rather a shame for for the simPlc reason that East and a rich country like probably Wci5t Ham was land a the richost in the world, if not the f cvr And if -land goes up richest the world has ever that in the future by. hundreds and thous- it should allow those who have toil- ed all days to end in penury and possibly starvation. (Hear, It is rather hard that an old workman should have to find his way tomb, bleedine; anas an acre through the efforts of the community, the community will get 20 per cent, of that increment. (Cheers.) (Cheers.) Ah what a misfortune it is that there was not to the gates of the ____, and footsore, through the brambles Ithls and thorns of poverty. (Cheers.') We cut a new path for easier one, a pleasanter one, through fields of waving corn. We are raising money to pay for the new and to widen so that paupers shall be able to a chancellor of the exchequer who did thirty- years ago (A voice "Better late than Only thirty years ago, and we should now be enjoying an abundant revenue from this source. (Cheers.) More Examples of Increment. Now I have given you West Ham. Let me give you a few more cases. join m the march. There are many j Take cases like Golder's-green and in the country blessed by providence other Cases, of a similar kind where with great wealth, and if there amongst them men who grudge are out of thsir riches a fair contribution to- wards the less fortunate of their fel- low-countrymen they are very shabby rich men. (Cheers.) We propose to they are, broken, they can Duke of Westminster, and he said earn no move. Won't you give some- thing towards .keeping them out -of want 'Will you renew my lease I to carry on my business here." He said, "Oh, yes, I will but I will'do it on condition that the few hundreds a year you pay for ground Tent shall in the future a In addition to, that he had to pay a fine fine, mind you and he hajk'to build up huge premises at enormous .expense according to plans submitted to; the Duke of Westmins- ter. All I can say is it is confiscation and robbery for us "to say to that duke that.'be- ing in need of money for public pur- will take 10 per cent, of all you have got, for that purpose, what would-you call his. taking nine-tenths from Mr. Gorringe? These are the have got to deal with. Look at all this .leasehold system.' This is the system I am at- not not busi- is blackmail, (Loud cheers.) I have no doubt some of you have taken the trouble to peruse some of those leases, and they, are 'really worth reading, and I'will guarantee dowa ness, it the workhouse they scowl at you. arid we "Only a just a copper." They say, "You thieves'." And they turn their dogs on to and you can hear their bark every morning. (Loud laughter and If this is an indication of the view taken by these landlords of their re- sponsibility to the people who, at the risk of life, create their wealth, then' I say their day of reckoning is "at hand. (Loud cheers.) The Duties of Ownership. The .other day, at thex great Torv .meeting held at the Cannon street hotel, they had blazoned on the walls. "We protest against the Budget in the name of laugh- and justice." Where does the democracy come in in this landed system Where is the seat of jus- tice in all these "'I claim that the tax impose on land is .fair, is just, (Cheers.) They and is moderate- go on threatening we Proceed they their benefactions will, cut and dis- charge labor. What kind of labor What is the kind of labor they" are that if you circulate copies of some building and mining leases, at Tariff, Reform .meetings, and ifisomS "to choose for dismissal? Are you can get the workmen at those meetings-and the business men to read them, they will come away sad- der but much'wiser men. What are they Ground rent is a; part of it- fines, fees; you are to.make no alter- ation without somebody's consent. Who is that somebody It is the agent of the landlord. A fee to him. You must submit the plans to the landlord's architects, and get his consent. There is a fee to ;him. There is a fee to the surveyor and then, of course, you canno't keep the law- (Laughter.) He always And a .fee to him. Well, that is the system, and the land- lords come to, us in the House of Commons, and they say "if you go on taxing reversions we wiU grant no more leases." Is not that hor- rible (Loud laughter.) No more leases, no more kindly landlords. (Laughter.) With all their retinue of good surveyors, law- yers ready always to receive yer out. comes in. they go ing. to threaten .to devastate rural England by feeding and dress- ing themselves Are they going to reduce their gamekeepers Ah, that would be sad (La'ughterO The ag- ricultural laborer and the efarmer might then have some part of 'the game which they fatten with their labor. But what would happen 'to you in the season No week-end shooting vwith the Duke of Norfolk or anyone. (Laughter.) But that is not the kind of labor-they arc going to cut down. They are going to cut .down productive .builders and their they are go- ing to ruin their property so that it shall not be 'taxed, ownership All 1 can say, is of land is not merely ,an enjoyment, it is a steward- ship. (Cheers.) It has been reckoned, -as such in the past, and if they cease to discharge their functions, the se- curity" and defence of the country, looking alter the broken in their vil- lages and in their neighborhoods rents, fees, prem- then those functions which are part iums, fines, more, nev-' of the traditional duties attached to er again i (Laughter.) They will not ownership of land and which have do it. We cannot (Laughter.) They persuade them. givcn to won't have it. i discharge if they cease to those functions, the time (Renewed laughter.) The landlord has threatened .us that if we ceed with the Budget he will take his (loud laughter) clean away will come to consider the conditions under which land is, held in this country. cheers.) No coun- try, however rich, can permanently from the hopper, and the grain which j afford to have quartered "upon its we all are grinding our best to fill1 revenue a class which declines to do his sack will go into our own. Oh, I cannot believe it. There is a limit the duty which it was called upon to perform since the beginning. (Hear. even to the wrath of outraged ]and-ihear-) And- therefore, it is one of lords. We must really appease them; we must offer up some sacrifice to them. Suppose we offer the House of Lords to them (Loud and prolong- "ed cheers.) Well, you seem rather to agree with that. I will make the suggestion to them. The Tax on Royalties. Now, unless I am wearying (loud cries of "No, have just one other land tax, and that is a tax on royalties. The landlords are re- ceiving eight millions a year by way of royalties. What for? They never deposited the coal there. It was not they who planted these great granite rocks in Wales, who laid the foundations of the moun- tains. Was it the landlord (Laugh- ter.) And yet .he, by some divine right, demands as his mere- ly the right for men to risk their lives in hewing these millions a year Take any coalfield. day, and they pointed out to me many collieries there. They said "You see that colliery there. The first man who went there spent a quarter .of a million in shafts, in driving mains and levels. He never got coal, and he lost his quarter of a man spent he .failed. The third man came along and he got the coal." What was the landlord in the meantime? The first failed but the landlord got his roy- the prime duties of statesmanship to investigate those conditions. But I do not believe it. They have threat- ened and menaced like that before. They have is not to their in- terest, to .carry out these futile men-, aces. They are now protesting against paying their fair share of the taxation of the land, and they are doing-so by saying: "You are bur- dening industry you are putting burdens upon the people which they cannot bear." Ah they are not thinking of themselves. (Laughter.) Noble souls (Laughter.) It is not the great dukes they are feeling for, it is the market is the builder, and it was, until recently, the small holder. (Hear, hear.) In every debate in the House of Commons they said "We are not worrying for ourselves. We can af- ford it with our broad acres bat just think of the little man who has only got a few and we were so very impressed with this tearful appeal that at last we said "We will leave him out." (Cheers.) And I almost expected to sec Mr. Prety- man jump over the table when I said on my neck and embrace me. (Loud laughter.) Instead of that, he up, The budget., is more unjust th'an ever." (Laughter and cheers.) No Burdens on the People. We arc placing burdens, on the alty the landlord got his dead-rent a very good name for it. Thej second man railed, biit the landlord broadest shoulders. (Cheers.) Why should I put burdens on the people Page.) ;