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Lethbridge Herald, The (Newspaper) - October 7, 1908, Lethbridge, Alberta THE LETHBRIDGE WEEKLY HERALD HON. FRANK OLIVER DELIVERS FINE SPEECH city. And it is especially a pleasure! the scheme had to be amended on of doing so on behalf of my friend, j terms "less favorable to the nation Crowds Gould Not Get Into the Hall To Hear the Minister Of the Interior Meeting Was a Splendid One C. Simmons the Only Other Speaker Mr. Simmons. The elections which is to be held on (Oct. 26 will not only decide who shall be elected but ac- cording to what principles and prac- In, regard to the Crow's Nest Pass railway I need only call your atten tioa to the campaign which is being carried oil throughout eastern Can- tice the country shall be governed, i add where Premier Koblin standing It is therefore important that the electors should know definitelv what on the platform of the leader of the Opposition advocating the return of each party and each candidate stand] his friends to power has seen fit to for. I am here tonight to place be- speak of it as the Crow's Nest steal, fore you arguments to show that what Mr. Simmons and the Liberal party stand for is better than what his op- ponent Mr, Magrath and the Con- j servative Party stand for. People are apt to be misled by the state- j ment that there is no serious differ- i ence between the two political part- i It is my business to point out that there is .a great difference. The classes, which in the broad -r and several of its members were fined. Liberal Party, as the experience of sense of the word includes the farm- er as well. These form by far the Labor Legislation greatest .u. uv wr raore Darticularlv of the '-io part of this great country is the number of ctors of Canada, j labor legislation, Mr. I evidence of that policy more clearly "They have, been enfranchised the Simons stated that in the first pro- ercise their franchise carefully and I bor interests should not be consid- intelligenily, as I have no doubt the? ered prominently until after the great questions of the school system and the public lands were settled. These j quo Although not in the 'best of form ow-j ing to a bad cold, the ''first man of j the as Mr. Simmons called! him. delivered aa excellfnt speech, with not only because! of the incontrovertible facts present- ed, but also because of the evident. frankness, sincerity and honesty of! statement arid purpose. j Mr. Simmons' address, though short, was a" clear exposition of the J (From Saturday's Daily.) The cause of Liberalism in Leth- bridge and the candidacy of W. C. Simmons, the 'Liberal candidate for the Commons, received a decided-im- petus in the meeting held last night. Oliver's Hall was packed to the doors j same everyone else, and if they ex- j vincial elections he thought that la- and bayond by an attentive crowd anxious to hear the Hon. Frank Oliver, Minister of the. Interior, dis- cuss the questions at issue In the] present electoral contest And they! were satisfied. Men who had an idea that there was something in the made by Ames and other} Conservative scandalmongers, went j Away convinced that the administra- j tion of affairs at Ottawa was as clean j and straight as it was humanly pos- j have llieiii. jVlr. Oliver show- j eu conclusively that there is a distinct r difference between the Liberal and i Conservative parties in matters of policy, and that the policy of the for- mer was the policy of progress, de-i vclopment and equal rights "to all.! this Western country shows, stands progress and-'development, and in shown than right here in Lethbridge. Those of us who were here in 1896 when the Conservative, tion which had held office, was dis- placed, will remember that the Liber- al government's first act of the de- were'settled by that election. When j velopment of Western Canada was to' ithe membc-r for Lethbridge, Dr. the construction of the Crow's and has accused the Liberal Govern- ment of participating in one of the most gigantic cases of graft and loot thai any government could possibly be guilty of. There is no justifica- tion for this campaign. The govern- ment is satisfied that it has done well and the Crow's Nest Railway lias amply justified the results. I ask the people of Southern Alberta to whom it has brought the first of prosperity to judge between the two parties. and cast their votes ac- cordingly on October 26th. Protected the People The government, it is true, grant- ed a large subsidy, but it did so on conditions that protected the inter- ests of the people and gave to. the pany. And the company would not consent unless the elevator was of a kind and description which suited thii convenience of the railway com- pany. No person was allowed more- over to ship grain at that station unless they shipped through that ele- vator. There were stations at which there were elevators and farmers who wished to slap grain at such stations but it was always found that there were. not any ciurs available. These conditions necessarily resulted in throwing the grain into the hands of a few men whe had erected elevators. The farmers were consequently under the domination of the railway mon- opoly on one hand and the elevator monopoly on the other hand. To re- lieve the situation the Manitoba grain act was passed. This provided that any person who wished to establish an ,elevator should be permitted the privilege of establishing it on the right of way of the railway company. And anyone who established an ele- vator there was compelled to give-; storage facilities to whatever grain was offered providing of course there was room.' The railway company was compel- producers of the plains a reduction led to accept goods.jrom such elevator f was promoted to the Senate, i he became the Liberal candidate. At that time, the other questions hav- ing been settled, he considered the labor were o? Two q-aes- Crow's Nest Railway All those who w he-re at that of three cents per hundred pounds on wheat and ten per on cer- tain I cannot concieve that the electors and where there was no elevator they were obliged to build a landing from which the farmers could load their srrain. Provision was. made that ques paramount importa.nce. lions he considered of the greatest; i importance. One of these was I eight-hour law and the. other was the} banl_ Compensation Act. be-' fore he was selected as the can Ik'n'e which then prevailed. Lethbridge a town of magnificent distances will support a man who is identified the distribution of cars, each farmer! with a party that attacks" the con- j -should have the same right as any j l_e struction of a' railroad which was other company or organization so that from sale, and only put up timber for suie when the circumstances make it advisable to do so. Formerly any- body could have a limit put up for But now such is not thy case. The government will use its own dis- cretion in the matter, and the tim- ber will not be put up for compe- tition by tender, but by public sale by auction. The change was not made because we thought the former regulations were not right and pro- per. We believed that they were eminently suitable to .the i! the country and were instrument- al in getting money invested in the lumber industry, which resulted in an adequate supply being manufac- tured for the uses of the settlers. As to the charge of politica-1 favorite- ism I have not the time to cover all the points. But I will give you instances which show be- yond all question that there was no graft or favoritism under the Liberal government. I have a list of the tim- ber limits disposed of from January 1st, 1906 to January 1903 and it is open to inspection of any one who may choose to examine, it. This list contains among others the following A. t n. miles secured by Wm. Hum- were six tender built for their benefit. on the car order book the farmer's member of the audience inter-' name stood for a car just the same as j riipted and asked how it was there elevator owner's name stood for a. T i ht- pledged himself to see that laws Passed dealing with these two j matters' The first thing he did after j Ks election was to bring them bc-. j run- the Liberal government an-1 tlK 1 I caucus at Edmonton. He had hopes of achiev- ing anything of that nature. It be- came necessary in the estimation of! the Liberal government that there should be railway communication be- tween the 'prairie and the Kootenay mining country. It is I think, that the prospects held in re- gard to any enterprise of a large VH-V little difficulty m convincing thj ture havg been SQ justified as was so much grain lying along the railroad. A Fins Retort Mr. Oliver, "Then.- was not any grain to lie out before 1896. (Laugh- ter.) There was no car shortage before -1896. (More laughter.) These was not any money that grain would buy before 1896. (Great applause.) car. I do not clairii that this "legis- j lation is perfect, but I do claim that it is a valuable measure for the pro- tection of producers in the West whose interest will always receive first attention at the hands of the Liberal government because they art at the foundation of the country's prosperity. Liberalism for Develooment was that of Senator T. 0. Davis, 320. Mr. Humbertson is a lumber man who so far as I am aware neve'r cast" a Liberal vote in his life, and never intends' to. Senator T. 0. Davis is an ardent supporter of the Liberal government, yet. he loses the limit for a difference-of Berth, 1275. forty square miles, se- cured by W. Anderson at Text lowest.. H. Finger of Port Ar-" thur, prominent liberal and lumber man, The Liberal politician loses th? limit for the sake of h T i- of the government of thel Jn connecyon with, the Here is a serious condition of affairs. 1 In' all Liberalism is for the j man who had no party claims HON. FRANK OLIVER Minister of the Interior justit-e of such legislation. While I the speaker con- Crow's railway. have a marvellous production of individual right and development.: There has been a in South- ('wealth and thcra is certainly inade- 1 Conservatism is against the Individ- tt W 1 Vi_l AiA 1. V i "that the government or Vl-jern Alberta that is certainlv aston- a policy and record of the Liberal party ia pertaining to. the man. Hfe Basked -to be judged on his record in''this'regard, and his recep- tion, by the workingmen present would indicate that their judgment on Oc- tober 26 would be of the most favor- able'kind. Long .before the time announced for the opening of the-meeting" the hall was 'full. The Citizens' Band provided a good musical programme in the meantime. Across the front of the hail was a streamer, "Oliver, the West's Best Friend." On either side were other streamers, inscribed "Laurier, Oliver, Simmons and Vic tory" and "Let Laurier Finish His- Work." will, they will wok after their In- is the best -friend the members of the goveromen terests fully as well as the earful in any .kgis- does after his. And It is to you men, I affecting the rights of any men you workiagmen that I wish Hon. Mr. Gushing, t'> ularly to speak tonight. If I cannot' 1- of Public Works, under ihuw that the government ha? Xrrcse charge such legislation weald doing well for you, it is for you to b.-.. a commission rs-lfgate them out of power. But if I i the question thoroughly. Tlus can show you that they have attempt- was done and the result is well ed to solve the questions, and have j known. Upon the statute books oi tried to. legislate so as to give you Alberta there is an eight-hour law j-jur. share in the profit of your pro-, that is acknowledged by the labot duction, I claim that the' leaders to be the best in existence has a right to your support and I; shall ask you for that support. similar result obtained in the Work- "Everycne should be judged'by his men's Compensation Act'but merely say that now with that law in opera- The chair was occupied by W. A Buchanan, president of the Leth- bridge Liberal Association. With him were Hoa. Frank Oliver, W. C. Simmons, Senator De Veber, J. W. Woolf. H. Ostlund A. H. .McDuffM Kobort Ibey Jas. Marsh (Wood- Fred Turner J. Poweilson J. C. Christian Dr. Cragg, F. Kenny, J. Wolsey, and others. The Meeting Opens W. A. Buchanan, the president of the Lethbridge Liberal Association, was chairman but' refrained from making any speech. He expressed his pleasure at seeing such a large audience as it showed that. the peo- ple of Lethbridge were interested and wanted to hear' just such a clear ex- position of the public questions of 'the day as they would get. LetV bridge's progress during the pan twelve years was but an instance to show the result of the enterprising and progressive policy of the govern- ment. The Department of the Inter-. ior had done much toward the pro- gress of this city. Without further re-j marks from the chair. j The Liberal Candidate W. C. Simmons, was then introduced. He addressed himself chiefly to the workingman and reviewed the labor le- gislation by the Liberal party, ap- pealing in conclusion to them for support upon the grounds of his honest endeavor to give the working- man his just dues. He said in beginning that it was not necessary to prove that during the past twelve years of Liberal rule Canada had enjoyed a period of un- precedented prosperity and expansion along almost every line. The pro- phecy of Sir Wilfrid Laurier when he said in the House of Commons, "If I come to power and the principles of Liberalism rtre put into operation by a Liberal government, it. will not be necessary to have figures to prove that Canada is prosperous." had own re-cord regardless of his party. But I am proud to say that the pro- vince'of Alberta, though only threj tion the workman does not have to take the time nor bear the expense years old, and the Liberal government 1 of carrying his case from court to in Alberta though in power only years are far ahead of any other in regard to doing away with the differ- entiation that exists against the -la- boring man." Abolishing Monopolies In discussing tae efforts of die Al- government to abolish the mon- opolies held by the moneyed Inter- ests, Mr. Simmons told how the Conservative Government at Ottawa ago gave the Bell Telephone Company a monopoly in all provinces and in all cities, towns, and rural municipalities. This vas done r. gardiyss of the interests of the people arid without as much as asking 'by your from them. court in order to get justice." Legislation at Ottawa Mr. Simmons regretted that he had not time, to deal with the work of the federal government in labor mat- ters except in a most cursory man- lier. The Liberal soon after it came Into powere recognized- the importance of labor interests by appointing a department and minister of labor and established a labor bu- There has been a develop- candidates offer no reniedy. and competition. At least such is .its of. the mining indusary' the government however, does. It history in this country. There are Southeastern British Columbia that is a matter of pride to every Canadian and of profit to Canada as a whole. This railway has made possible the smelters in.the Kootenay country and the operation of mines 'of very low grade ore which could' not have been touched had it not been for the -es-' tablishment of those smelters. .And those smelters would never have been established had there not been ac- cess given to the coal mines ofFernie. The development of the Kootenays says that its policy is to increase the transportation facilities. The only policy -the Conservatives have to of- to meet the requirements of the' country is a rnud slinging and slan- der p'olicy whereby th.3 characters of their fellow citizens are besmirched. They have not a word to say about the necessity of making provisions for the grain lying out on 'the prai- rie unable to get transported to mar- ket. Yet, no doubt, they expect in- telligent and enterprising people .who has had its effect in providing a mar-t that Srain to vote for ttiem ket for the produce of the plains, and from end to end .tha work has been a most abounding success. Guarded Lethbridge Interests The government did not forget the interests which were .established at different points along the proposed iine including the interests of this city. Those who were here at that time will remember that there was every expectation that the Crow's Nest Pass railway would not touch Lethbridge, but that it would leave the line between Lethbridge and Dun- more at a point east of on Oct. 26. Liberals Against Monopolies The Conservative, party are against competition and for monopoly. The Liberal party are for competition and against monopoly. The Conservative party opposed the Grand Trunk Pa- cific and more recently fought the pro- posal of the 'Great Northern to enter southeastern British Columbia.r The government gets the limit. William Cowan, of Prince Albert, Conservative candidate in the pro- vincial elections -of 1905, tenders fif- ty thousand and fifty dollars for the some statements which may have! limit, and the next, lowest tender..-.'is- IT -1 T J i transportation, yet the Con-ual right and against development published that require some at- tention at my hands. It is not a pleasant feature of this campaign that instead of Discussing great ques- tions for the good of the country we are compelled to discuss slander and that of Thomas Mackie, Liberal M. P. of North Renfrew who offered Mr. Mackie ceftainly had claims on the Liberal party If any man ever had and yet his a Conservative gets the limit for only all that goes to make public life dis- j -twenty-five dollars more than creditable in the eyes of honest peo- ple The Scandal Campaign To those who see fit to drag poli- tical life into the dirt I have nothing to say, they choose their own posi- tion but I do believe that those who can find nothing higher than the prac- tice of maligning their fellows are not the people who are entitled or who will receive the trust of the peo- ple. (Cheers.) Honesty in a government, is, I ad- mit, a first necesity, and if a charge of dishonesty is maintained, it must be fatal. But I also want Mr. Chair- company of course, had to come to j man- ladies and gentlemen, to enter a for honest politics and to ask that while we offer to you an honest reau and now Sir Wilfrid Laurier has When the Liberal government was making this bargain with the C. P. promised to make a department spedal provision ,vag made labor separate from other vegted interests of tMs established and to put a minister in charge who town should be protected by lhe Tail. shall be the equal of any mmister to Parliament for sanction, and the mat- ter was referred to the railway com- mittee. The Liberals have a major- ity on that, committee but the Con- administration you demand from our Opponents honest arguments in ad- servatives turned out in such numbers vancing their cause. As you would judge us so be they condemned If we are proven dishonest in the dis- that the vote was 60 to 60 and the Liberal chairman gave his casting vote for competition. It will be 0fjcharSe of our dutv' I ask to con' interest to Lethbridge to know them if they are dishonest in tht ir representative voted with bis hh- charges that they have way being compelled to give facili- j for railway monopoly. in the cabinet. Among other legisla-1 Lethbridge, and from'that day tion that the federal government had j Fortunately and without, any appar- passed is a law establishing a fair em intent of the government no wage in all government contracts and backs into Lethbridge sta- to this, when the.C.-P. R. train be- tween' Medicine Hat and Kootenay Public Development There have been a good many slan- ciause was regariun tneir tiir ao i on of the sweating sys The main attack that is being made I dt'r5 uttered the Llbsral f .on the government is because of its! eminent, but I have not time to deal Here is another instance ,which vast expenditure on western'railway Ivith them a11' but we Wl11 take I tion you. have the evidence of the i developments. This is and ie, with 'timber limits. those ia connection First there is i of Liberal government in death struggle between, the two par- j -travacrance am proud of the record .of the I protecting your interest. and of the two must go down an.a e? .___; I Liberal government, both in the Macleod people thought themselves tbe contest- The party. gent interest been taken berta. I do not claim eral and provincial .he said, j wiser than the government and made "and in no part has .such intelli-i their own bargain and it took some as in AH years for them to retrieve their mis- iliat all the'take. The Liberal governiiieiit's pol- statutes are perfect or absolutely sat- icy stuod for progress and develop- isfactory. Eut such acts as the Lem- ment, and as there can be no progress ieux Act and other, although they or development without railway con- have failed in some instances, in the! struction, the government's policy great majority of cases work-J naturally revolves around the trans- yd with perfect satisfaction and have j portaiion question. We have aided done much to improve the condition! the C. N. system, actuated created it of the workingmen and prevent ser-! until today it has-some fifteen hun- ious loss to him. .Canada led the i drod miles of railway in the three however, considers it is acting in the waste in disposing of the timber lim-j its and next there is a general charge true interest of the country, and de- of Political favoritism, and graft. spite the large expenditures already accused of havmS hm' incurred, it intends to build the Hud-iilf al .And son Bay railway. (Cheers.) We ask you to endorse what we have done and we propose to j do. The Hudson Bay railway will cost many millions but if you vote against the expenditure you vote against the railway. What does the Hudson Bay railway mean to the people of Lethbridge? It means that Ol way in the providing for amicable settlement of labor troubles. The Liberal government at Ottawa has led the world of nations in labor matters and Alberta, in legislation for the benefit of the workingman is in prairie provinces and at the last ses- sion of parliament the government entered into an arrangement with it that will add in the next year or two seven hundred miles more to the system and give further devel- the lead of all countries, all prov- and accommodation to the inces and all states." Mr. Simmons brief speech was well received and was interrup- ted by hearty applause. C. SiMMONS, M. P. The Liberal Candidate Hon. Frgnk Oliver In introducing the speaker of the western country. The G. T. P. The G. T. P. project is another that owes its existence to the policy of the Liberal government, which in the election of IS04 pledged itself to the railway built. The railway who acquired the limits, afterward Mackie bid. Berth 1251, secured by C. A. Rob- ertson for next lowest- tender T. A. Burrows. Mr. Burrows loses the limit by I have seen' it stated in possibly you. have heard it from this that Mr. Burrows never tendered and did not succeed. The suggestion was' that Mr. Burrows had been given; aa unfair advantage. When that state- ment was made theae documents were available to every person whe wished to consider them. They were within the.knowledge of the man who mada the statement. He Knew He Lisd When he made the statement he lied, and he knew he lied. (Cheers.) A never made that state- ment. He said that he only failed once and that is the time he failed. The Honorable Frank that was just as false. Mr. Burrows tendered twentjvfive times and he made. got eighteen limits. There were seven times he tendered and did riot succeed The man who said he lost only once lied also. (Cheers.) is somewhat different, but equally Illum- inating as showing the absence of graft and favoritism: Limit 1296, secured by W. A. Charl-" ton, formerly Liberal speaker of the Ontario legislature, for The next lowest tender was Wm. Humber- stone's for Mr. Chariton got like If Mr. Carlton had anv j .i.j. 11U.U tlllV- disposed of them or were able- to ois-1 political pull, he certamlv would o pose of them at a very large advance. It was. T point out no part of the government's policy to regard the sale of timber rights as a source of revenue. The government'-s main! not have paid nearly more than he needed to. There were seven tenders for this limit and one of them was put in by an Edmonton i man who had had a great deal to say purpose was to secure the operation, T., e 1 L 1-1 i- t 1-1- aoout the Liberal government s f.? limi-fj? en thnt tiTTI hwi-r -nrnifh limits so that the timber which evening the chairman made reference is in course of construction and will come true. One' has but to look i i'. r JV i Os-ing exempt from around him to see that C-mr -1- enjoying marvellous prosperity. The next twelve years will se 1S bert.i government to tax the liell to the fact that- in 1896, The Al- i ago, what is now the whole the They found that this c was a great movement of the consolidation crtmnnnv and would of the .population of Canada. Popula- 1MH aHoW ;n tion is coming irom every quarter of i the globe. through numerous races proble people, Canada, Will Stay in Power. pro-of Alberta bad onlv one represents hire in same way th" government levated to the c representation. of by the j, _ -i- i j iv, i u ui iv: v j wont after tno lumber combme. An Tt is a matter of very proat ploasuro! it up from until Octob-r and investigation was held by a commis- to mo to have the opportunity of once in the meantime tl-.n monetary con- sion, the combine was prosecuted, more addressing, an audience in this and 'they decided that no person should ship any grain at any station except, through a .standard elevator, that is to say no person was allowed an elevator at any station except with, the consent of tho railway corn- not approach, the Minister himself. Ho had to to Mr. Whimstcr, who had to write to Mr. Boyd who- wrote ditions of the world- had changed and to Mr. Daly, Such was the way e party. tho bill was before Parliament they hold taking a homestead. When u man saw a. bunch of timber hf thought he would like to have ho had it put up for competition and t.ho man who offered the highest bonus got the limit. Now when, we thought there was a danger of an undue proportion falling into, the hands of people who simply wanted to speculate then we said we will hold back the timber well as you know now that there were none. Perhaps it will be of interest if I give you some evidence of tho principle on which timber limits were sold shortly before the Liberal gov- ernment took office. You will have noticed that some the limits I have mentioned produced as high as 000. I have a letter here from the department of the Interior, dated Ottawa, July 4, 1804. I am directed to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the sixteenth ultimo, and inclosing the sum of which you offer as a bonus for a per- mit to cut timber "on Berth 657 situate in fractional town-ship 54, range 26 of the third meridian, contain- ing an aren of thiry square miles, for which public competition was invited. In replying, I fim directed to inform you that your tender cannot, bo ac- cepted unless the bonus offered be increased to (Laughter) This offer wil remain pperi for thirty .days from this date. The sum of which accompanied your communication is returned 'to you herewith. Signed: 'Lyndwodc Perira, Assistant Secretary." ;