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Indianapolis State Sentinel (Newspaper) - January 16, 1841, Indianapolis, Indiana Vol. , saturday january 16, 1841. No. 970 eighth of january. This Day As usual was observed by the Loco focus in this place in a partizan manner. It was not ushered in by the pomp and circumstance of firing of Cannon and of pop guns neither was Tipre a gorgeous shall b Cou Yitoi All Over a counted a s in Ite and a Imit. One a Oiin per Sii Are Sipau do nor yet were the spirit Sling sounds of martial my charged Torich first three Orang ifs Iii Neil Crofit sort Loiis acid e Guiteu avid full Islley by amp . Terms._�2.50 Pera Minuni in 52 300. If pail expiration of six Ino Wiilis and 50 Ait lie end of Fth volume. To Papor Willylu Discoid timid unless at lie option of the Pul lib liars Arctic l. Advertise nth the. Pacer Iii died by 25 ii3, 0 1 i ivies ded myself to be one not however of the Van Burn Cert ined any where so Well As at the place where the stamp. I voted for Gen. , not on account of pm to lived. All knew that frauds in elections had his National politics but because Anterior to and at the election i conceived his vie is upon state policy. He hoped it would not be rejected. Or. Eggleston believed that unmixed Good had re Twenty fun c cents for Eracli Ion advertisements published by t Lio Quarter or i Fujier will be charged 3 per Square for three Mont Lis for six a youths or Sio per annul., merchants Advertis Onnby the year will of charged for two squares ,15 50 for thru squares �20 for a a Quarter of column of 1000 cams $52 fora half of a column s52 for three fort Brofn column i of for a column �06. A deduction of 20 percent will to made on advertisements column or year Avi not altered. Oisin from abroad must be accompanied with the by a brother pub a Advertis orients must to marked on thei face wit h the number of i insert Loiis or they Willic continued t ill ordered out and Harreii by the insertion. The postage must be paid on All letters to the publishers or they Williot be taken out file Posto Tice iviony7 january tit Trio. Georoe Boon a member of die h. Ii., from the county of Sui a Livan died at his lodgings at or. 1. Browns yesterday morning about 3 o clock. In the House on Friday or. Graham from a joint committee of free conference on the subject of the disagreement of the two houses in relation to the apportionment of senators and representatives reported that tie committee had agreed to Amend the Bill of the Senate so that the counties of Gibson Pike and Dubois shall each elect one representative which report was concurred in. Or. Smidth of d. From similar committee reported that the joint committee had agreed so to Amend the Bill of the Senate that the counties of Bartho Lomow and Jennings shall elect one senator the counties of Monroe and Brown one senator and the county of Lawrence one senator the counties of Bartholomew Jennings Lawrence and Monroe and Brown jointly shall Eracli elect one representative and the counties of Monroe and Brown jointly and the county of Lawrence Liall elect one additional representative alternately commencing with Lawrence which report was a�30 concurred in by the House. The vote on the passage of the Bill to reduce the pay of to members and officers of the legislature was reconsidered and on its an interesting debate sprung up but before the question was taken the House adjourned. It is hardly probable that the Bill will pass in any shape. On saturday morning or. Champer announced Type decease of Hugh Barnes sergeant at arms of the House in the following appropriate and feeling remarks or. Speaker a i Rise to perform a duty at once melancholy and imperative one i am sure this House will readily permit when its Sci Nim s recollect the relation we Bear to the j subject of that an Sie heard in our streets to give note that a great Victory of american arms and american valor was to be celebrated but the party or rather a meagre number of its would be leaders assembled in the Hall of the Capitol of the state to abuse vilify and slander one of the bravest and Best generals that America Ever gave birth to. The orator of the Day was the Hon. E. M. Chamberlain state senator from Elkhart county. Throwing aside dignity and decorum avoiding truth and propriety and availing himself of All the Little Slang and vituperation that has been vomited upon the coi try for the last two years by the administration presses of the country the up easier Pur Geu himself of More of the loathsome bile of venom and malice than we thought it possible for any specimen of humanity to contain. After the operation he resumed his scat and Lii Mas Jujj Erson Henley read about a quire of resolutions which of course were adopted one of them however containing a falsehood that All the party could not gulp Down. It stated that or. Madison did not approve a Bill chartering a Bank of the United states. Maj. Brice of Craw Fordsville moved to Amend it by saying that or. Madison did approve a Bill in 131g, chartering such an institution but the amendment did not prevail and the Resolution was adopted with but few dissenting voices. We have not room for a further notice of the Day s proceedings but when they appear in print we May again notice them. An elegant stove. Amongst the numerous specimens of skill and ingenuity which abound in these Days of invention we have seen none so of commendation As an elegant stove which attracted our attention and aun Ira Tion while spending a few moments during one of Fth coldest Days of last week in the Ollice of our fellow citizen . What added materially to it our gratification was the knowledge that it was not Only of Indiana Jitianu Maclure but that even its incl rial Vav As dug from our own soil thus Altor Dii a j the most ample evidence that we possess within our own limits Pineci Danical skill and resources of wealth which need but to be fostered and encouraged to be made productive of immense benefits to our . The Kitove to which we refer is of Peculiar Structure the heat from the main body being communicated to an up or apartment by tubes which Bear the appearance of elegantly fluted columns the whole surmounted by a beautifully wrought classic urn. Supplied with Dai Ijiri a Oduden sirs and All the requisite App a Ratus the heat can be regulated without difficulty. And particularly As to the system of internal improve-1 suited from allowing citizens to vote in any place ment Best accorded with what i have for years adv looked upon the county seat As the Best place 1 _ _ .1 a. A., where they fan Rop Pivo Iii i i it in it rated As the Best interest of the state i voted for Gen. Harrison because i esteemed him As a genuine jeffersonian Democrat a Man who will in the strict sense of the word be the president of the United is another mistake i am a native of Virginia not of Indiana. Yours respectfully Burton Thompson. Indiana . Lioun lenient. In the dispensation of divine provi to any desirable temperature and the objection so fre Dence it has pleased him to remove from amongst us from our midst yes sir from this Hall a face made familiar by our services Here. To myself tin duty is rendered the More imperative and comes to me with All the feelings which respect inspires at the loss of a citizen Nei Izhor and Friend. Hugh Barnes an officer of this House departed this life at his lodgings this morning at half past 6 o clock at the ago of 69 years and As i have reason to believe at peace with his god his neighbors and the world. Our departed Friend was a citizen of Owen county and had resided in the state of Indiana More than thirty years. He served in the army of Anthony Wayne and assisted in establishing those institutions under which an Empire of free states now flourish. For More than Twenty years past he has resided in the county a urn try urged against conc stoves is at once obviated by a simple yet Peculiar and convenient arrangement. As an article of con fort it is Superior to anything of the kind we have Ever seen while in its ornamental work it stands unrivalled by any specimen of Eastern manufacture so far As our observation or knowledge . From the elegance of its design we should conceive that it intended for a parlor but it is admirably adj used to tiie use of offices churches Orang Public building. To appreciate however this specimen of Western skill and Enterprise our readers who can conveniently do so should Call and see it at the office of gov. Wallace opposite the Post office. See ale. Thursday Jan. 7. The Bill of the House to amen tie ejection Law so As to restrict voters to townships in which the reside was read the first time or. Th0�\ifs0� moved that the Bill be rejected. He hoped that the motion would prevail. There was but one object to be gained by the Bill and that was to confine voters to their own townships. Or. Lov e said that in his opinion a Bill of the kind was called for. It would have a tendency to prevent corruption and Render elections More pure. Or. Tan Euill looked upon the provisions of the Bill As an abridgement of the privileges which the people had always enjoyed in this state As something too narrow. It was a a of Liberty for the people and their Liberty ought not to be circumscribed. If they liked to do so let them to town to give their it would not do at least for the people whom can receive political information. It would be a considerable restraint upon Many citizens if they were debarred from exercising their franchise where they pleased. He believed it to be a Wise principle in legislation not to in Advance of an evil which was Only anticipated nor to attempt to Correct an evil which did not exist. He was not aware of any evil which now existed and appealed to gentlemen if they knew of any election being contested on account of unfair voting. Gentlemen had spoken of political discords existing Between townships. These he thought might be corrected by bringing them More together when an interchange of opinions and sentiments would heal their discords and have the effect of doing away Vith Long cherished prejudices. When the evil should exist it was time enough to apply the remedy but to held into be the neigut of Folly to Arnii Nisiel physic to a Uca thy Man. Many of the River counties in this state were torn by factions of this nature. He professed himself to be opposed to the Bill. He could see nothing but unmixed evil which was Likely to grow out of such a measure. Or. Test believed there could be no necessity for such a measure and unless there should be some manifestation of Public opinion to Render the necessity of such a measure apparent it was better not to meddle Vith it. Frauds had indeed been committed to a Small extent by both parties but the passing of such a Bill seemed to him to be calculated rather to increase the frauds than to diminish them. He was of opinion that the people would be opposed to such a a measure. Why had it become necessary at Rush votes. He represented. There would be More of a restless vice to open two different Quot Solis Why because the Mam tested under it he was convinced than people chose to thither to give thl votes and the friends of such a measure anticipated. He would they a uld not like to have that Liberty infringed up so for the rejection of the Bill. In the no a a a of i pm Vious to on. The people ought to be consult a the adoption of such a measure. It had been said that it arge meetings there was usually much of sex Citer nem and Kentucky had been referred to in support of the assertion. But to had no such excitement Here. Perhaps the Mode of voting in Kentucky Vii a Voce might Lead to greater than the custom 0 this state by ballot. Some persons in ejection or. Bell spoke in opposition to the Bill. The people would look upon it As an infringement of their privileges and he did not wish to see their privileges lessened. He also would vote for the rejection. Or. Parker was decidedly in favor of the he believed it would do a great Deal of Good and it certainly ought to be treated with More deference ,. Than to be rejected before it had Well got Over the i Deavo red to get up an excitement against voting at a threshold of the Senate chamber. One gentleman county seat. He thought otherwise. The county and observed that the Day of election was a Day of looked upon As the proper place to Liberty for the people and he would not have their there were men of intelligence there were the news lib cry . He agreed with him. He p pcs Alsere was the county Seminary and the Best Rouhi not circus us crib Trio Liberty of the Peop but it information was to be obtained there. By stopping in wished to Sec them striving to put Down Home voters Milit be deprived of All Titis Intilli Ile wished gentlemen to consider the merits of the i p nce and consequently could not vote so advisedly Bill before thu a a Ould treat it in this Cavalier Man people would View this matter As interfering with nor. Tjio i ill by no Means abridged the privileges or a Quot in Rig its. Many made the Day of election a Day the liberties of the people. It did not deprive them Quot Quot which to collect their debts do Quot their trading and of the Liberty of voting that right was untouched tr5.nsact Timeir business and would wish therefore and it was easy for an individual to vote at Lime j of Quot Quot to some other place than the township in which amongst his own friends and then if he be so Dis a lived. In Short he was opposed to the Bill in posed to might join the jollity at the county t Vii. Substance and in Toto and should vote for its Good he believed would result from the Pas i i Quot Quot Safe of the Bill. His county was As moral As any a i Stevenson contended that the people who met other and it was called for Tipiere. At the last elec a a i the county seat were generally known to each Tion almost All persons voted at their own Homes j other and that at an election it was difficult to prac and he never heard fewer complaints. Foreigners i in position. We had been giving on he said from came into the country with their own Peculiar notions Cir to year and no harm had yet resulted from the leave the world without an enemy carrying with learn this stove was manufactured him the respect of the hundreds who knew him in Ore being abundant in the Vicinity of that the every Day walks of Lite and of the numerous a or i sons who had the Good Fortune to make his acquaint p Tance in his various services in Public and private life. With these sentiments sir and As a Token of the feelings of this House and As a last tribute to his memory i offer the following resolutions resolved that the members of this House tender to the family of the deceased their deep regret on this melancholy occurrence and offer them individually and collectively their warmest sympathy. Resolved that the members of this House As a Token of regard for the memory of the deceased will Wear the usual badge of mourning fur the space of ten Days. Reso hed that the members of this House will at half past 10 o clock to Morrow morning attend the funeral of their deceased Friend from his late lodgings in this place. Resolved that the speaker of the House of representatives be requested to transmit copies of these resolutions to the family of the deceased. The resolutions were adopted by unanimous consent. Or. Sweets room. From the judiciary committee made a detailed report on the subject of the liability of the state to redeem the state Bonds sold on time and which have not and May not be paid for concluding with the opinion that the state is liable and bound by Soupry of Honor and Justice to redeem such Bonds As Are in the hands Dihona fide purchasers fora valuable consideration. The House ordered 1000 copies to be printed. Whig meeting. To whigs of Indianapolis from different parts of the state held a meeting in the Capitol on the evening of the 8ih. T. R. Stanford of Henry county was to the chair and or. Montgomery of Gibson county was appointed vice president. The meeting was spirited by and eloquently addressed by messes. Thomp Eon of Lawrence Smith of Fayette Niles of la Porte Baird of st. Joseph and Blair of Decatur. Not b word of abuse or defamation escaped the lips of either of the speakers but every sentiment was express bed in a dignified and becoming manner. To horticultural society the annual meeting of this society was held in the representatives Hall on the afternoon of wednesday inst. A Large and respectable number of members and citizens were in attendance. An eloquent and. Dress abounding with valuable information wit and humor was delivered the Rev. H. W. Beecher and was received with Marks of approbation by the audience. At the conc Jason a variety of excellent fruit was distributed amongst those present. We Hope that or. B s address will he published for the gratification of persons who were absent on that interesting occasion. Norfolk a election. Or. Francis Mallory the whig candidate has been elected to Congress in the Norfolk a. District without organized opposition in the place of or. Holleman B. Resigned. A. O. P. Nicholso.\, Esq. Of Maury county Tennessee has been appointed by the governor of that stale. United states senator in the place of the Hon. Felix Grundy deceased. Gen. Stapp our fund commissioner gave notice in new York that All the interest due by this state would be paid on the first inst. At the Bank of the United states and at the merchants Bank. Wabash and Erie canal lands. the 30th ult. The Senate considered the Bill confirming to Indiana the land selected by her to Complete that portion of the Wabash and Erie canal that lies Between the Mouth of the Tippecanoe River and Terre haute and for other purposes. The correspondent of the Baltimore Patriot thus alludes to if. Quot the Senate proceeded to consider the Bill to confirm to the state of Indiana the land selected by her for thai portion of the Wabash and Erie canal which lies Between the Mouth of the Tippecanoe River and Terre haute and for other purposes. This is a very important measure and or. Sinith deserves the thanks of the citizens of Indiana for the Industry Zeal and perseverance with which he has Laboured to carry it through Congress. Or. Tappan spoke in opposition to the Bill and concluded with a motion to recommit it. Or. Smith of Indiana replied at length to or. , in support of the Bill. He went at Large into the argument in favor of the claim and in opposition to the on the 31st after a debate by or. Tappan of Ohio against the Bill and or. Smith of Indiana in favor of the claim of the state the Bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third Reading by a Large majority. Of course the Bill will pass the Senate and now that the District which is immediately interested in the prosecution and completion of this great work has a member in the other Branch of Congress in the place of Quot Ozir Howard Quot who will labor with his entire energies and perseverance to procure its final Pas siege the people of the state May reasonably Hope to obtain at this session of Congress a confirmation of these lands. For the journal. January 8, 1841. Messes. Douglass Noel a i have noticed in the printed table of the senators their politics &c., that in the column devoted to the former politics of the members the word Democrat appears opposite my name. I wish to state that it is incorrect. I furnished my name with the words democratic Quot whig intended to be in the proper Colum i have no objection to the word Democrat As i Timve always Regar and were anxious to exercise every privilege of Citi a is As soon is possible and Many frauds were com minted Bruch persons going to a place where Thev wore not known and giving in their votes. Ati Oliie it class by whom frauds were free Pientl committed was the Young and inconsiderate persons under age. The fact of their not being of age would be known in their own township but they either to the county seat or to some other township where they Are not known Dee lure themselves to be of age and when there is no one to contradict their assertion their votes Are accepted lie would be sorry if any political Friend of his would lend himself to actions of this kind for the purpose of advancing his own another reason Why he should support the Bill was that according to the spirit of our institutions the Public feeling or in other words the Vox a a Puu should govern the land and for the purpose of allowing that feeling and that voice to Liao to Weir proper influence Large gatherings of the people should not be encouraged but let each District exhibit its on views. It was known what influence a or at mass of people had on an individual. were usually committed in crowds. By this act these Clouds were dispersed and the people kept at their own Homes thereby insuring purity at the ballot Box. In the Early Days of Kentucky much of riot and confusion used to take place at elections. It had been stated that a person going Down the morning after an election to the place where the polls had been held could fill a two Bushel Basket with noses ears eyes and other fruits of mutilations. This Bill would to keep Down such meetings. The people were not to be governed by excitements nor by brute Force and by passing this Bill much would be done towards remedying such evils. He pointed out How different the feelings of men were when at the county seat and when at Home and asked where was the county in the whole land where All the land was not obnoxious to the influence of the county seat Quot this influence was prevented by the Bill now before the Senate it left men at Home and free from such influence. In Rush county owing to the number of persons who resorted to the county seat at the time of election they had to open two places to vote at. Every Good citizen ought to lend Lis influence to the forwarding of a result so desirable As that our elections should be peaceable and pure. Or. Tannehill said that if the gentleman who had just taken Iii seat had any allusion in what he had said to any expression that he had made use of he assured him that he did not intend any offence but spoke from the pure impulse of his mind. He had lived in a Republic All his life and could say that pure representation was compost it to give blessings to a nation which nothing else could give and he believed that any attempt to abridge the Liberty of the citizens would bring about great evils. He lived in a District of the country which in the last election had Given a whig majority he was at the county seat at the time of election and witnessed nothing but Good feeling Between the parties he had witnessed none of the violence which that gentleman described. The gentleman or. Parker had referred to the elections in Kentucky and shown that a Basket full of noses and ears and eyes Mig it be gathered up after one of these meetings. He or. To had lived in Kent icy and he believed that he had his ears yet and his eyes too. The gentleman seemed to hold out the idea that those men who woul d not come Forward in support of the Bill were not of Good principles. If gentlemen chose to vote on the opposite Side from what he espoused he should not think him to be the worse Man for that he would not impugn his motives. Long ago there was an attempt made to pass a libel Law but the whole nation rebelled against it and now there was an attempt made to Cut Down the liberties of the people that was the Way to bring about popular tumults and tornadoes. If it to wished to keep peace let the people have All the Liberty to which they Are entitled. His idea was that when a course of legislation was persevered in in accordance with just principles then the people were satisfied and peaceable. Tie people would differ on politics on religion and on other things but whatever a mans opinion May be whether whig or Democrat he should not be thought the less of on that account. Or. Carnan said that some gentlemen seemed to consult a the convenience of the people merely. He believed the object of the Bill to be to obtain purity of election. The Legal right to vote could not be As custom Wlinich had been observed and it was saying Little for the citizens a Hen they were told that chains must be thrown around their necks and they must be i pin Iniel limits. Or. Zulemar. Jin �1 Allu a cd to the excitements in Kentucky. Tipiere was a Law in thai state did not allow More than four or live to assemble together because there were people there who required such Laws. That was not the Case Here and to pass a Bill to such an effect would be wrong lie looked upon the present Bill As an infringement of the liberties of the people and a restriction of their privileges to prevent them from voting at the county seat. Tipiere they expected to meet their friends and 10 Sec the candidates whom perhaps they had not an Opportunity of meeting with for some time before there they would hear political discussions and become better advised As to which Way to vote. It was doing the people an injury it was doing them injustice. Do not shut the people up in their townships and Chain them As slaves. The people would not Bear it. The time was when fighting was Practised at elections. It was not so nov. Civility was rapidly advancing. There was very Little whiskey and very Little fighting at elections in the present then Why impose chains upon the people now he hoped the Hill would be rejected. Or. Enron hoped that the Bill might not be rejected but that it might come up in the regular orders of the Day so that gentlemen might have time to make up their minds upon it. Or. Thompson addressed the Senate at considerable length in opposition to the Bill. In 1824, he said a Law was enacted relative to voting which was afterwards repealed. If it was necessary then to repeal that Law what reason existed now Why such a Law should be re enacted he went on to show the convenience which an election Day offered fur the transaction of business in the county towns and looked upon the proposed Law As having the effect of abridging the privileges of the people and restraining their liberties. He denied the fact of the excitements and mutilations in Kentucky. That was not the character of Kentucky. The men of Kentucky would fight indeed but when they fought it was in their country s Battles. He looked upon the Bill not Only As an infringement of the privileges of the people but also As denying their capacity of self government. In proof of the convenience of voting at the county seat he related a circumstance wherein on an election Day urgent business called him from town. He could not under the circumstances have time to vote within his own township but his business carrying him through the county town he voted there in passant and con Iii Ufa Ilia route. Had it Siul been for the privilege of voting out of his township he would have lost the privilege of voting. This could not be looked upon As a Case of a single occurrence Many might be circumstanced As he was and he looked upon it As an insurmountable Barrier to the proposed infringement of the rights and privileges of the people. Or. Lowe was much interested in the subject. He stated that in his part of the country meetings were held in most of the townships and the people agreed to Voce in their several townships. At the november election the people voted in their own townships and but few met at the county seat. The Cor sequence was All passed off peaceably quietly and coolly and there Vas not even a suspicion of fraud. Or. Parker remarked that As what he had said in reference to Kentucky was imagined by some senators to have been uttered in disrespect of that state he assured them that he had no such intention he Only recited what he had heard in Early life with respect to the Early times of Kentucky. Instances had occurred of mutilation in All the slates. He could freely subscribe to All that had been said of the gallantry of Kentucky and would to one of the last to detract a hair from her reputation and Here he entered into an elegant Eulogius of Kentucky in which owing to the rapidity with which it was uttered we regret that we could not follow him. The gentleman from Switzerland or. Eggleston seemed to to link his or. A s course inconsistent because on a former occasion he had advocated a Large constituency. He was mistaken. The same arguments would Quot not do on every question. Why were elections at All a Why not Call the people together to make Laws because it was impossible and because of the cumbrous vote which would have to be taken on every question. Tion Klizing party and the de nationalizing party. The truth inight probably lie Between the two. He would not wish to be at either end. These two parties could Only be heard by choosing individuals to represent their views and the contest Between them was which should return the greatest amount of Talent in support of their views. Gentlemen had remarked that passing this Bill would be legislating before the evil. He would ask those gentlemen whether in their opinion preventive or punishing legislation was better. But the evil did exist to a certain extent it was acknowledged by every one that frauds in elections were Practised by both parties which frauds ought to be suppressed and he did not conceive that it was legislating before the evil. It had been observed that the passage of this Law would be placing chains upon the Phoide and them in the exercise of their constitutional rights and charging them with not being Able to govern themselves. He believed that he entertained As Correct sentiments on that subject As others. By the provisions of that Bill the constitutional rights of the people were secured to them it Only provided that in the exercise of Che right of voting it should be done in such a Vay As that they themselves should not be imposed upon that they should not be defrauded. Was that depriving the people of their privileges was that rendering them not Able to govern themselves the doctrine held out appeared to to if the people choose to fight let them fight it out if they choose to be disorderly let them be so. The people must govern themselves. They might Rob they might murder they might commit any , and there should be no Power to restrain them. He would rather advocate such government As we now enjoy wherein the people were restrained from the commission of excess or of crime by wholesome Laws enacted for their government by deputies of their own Choice and appointment by which Means the people were in fact their own governors. He had been at a county seat for the greater Par it of his life but he had never come to the conclusion what it was a great lancastrian school to teach people How to vote. There indeed were libraries there were merchants there were lawyers there were doctors Piir. Test said it was not his intention to intimate that there the people wore particularly informed but he knew that the Public mind was frequently much in he country and in the towns they were Likely to be disabused. Or. Packer perfectly understood the gentleman he did but support his position that the people ought to to town to learn How to vote. Such a doctrine might suit the subjects of the grand Sultan or of the great Mogul but it was not applicable to the people of this country. One gentleman had said that lie had never seen a mob in All the Days of his life. He or. A had never seen but one and that was last Winter. He was not much Given to trembling but in All his life he had never behold a More startling scene. It was but lately that mobs had become common in this country excitement had increased within the last ten or twelve years. Plis Friend said that mobs were common about the ballot boxes. Every one then for that very reason wished them to be dispersed so that every citizen might come to the ballot Box peaceably. Or. P. Then alluded to the Laws of Kentucky not allowing the negroes to assemble in Large numbers. Why did such a Law exist Why a Caus Quot Neo Froes were men and liable to excitement. Why in new York was everyone obliged to vote in his own Ward for the purpose of keeping Down excitement and for the suppression of brute he wished for no local . The people would govern themselves if Opportunity were Given for it but he wished to sen them governed As their Flithers were governed. It had been stated that in i82 i a similar Law to the one now proposed existed and was repealed and it was asked what new Light had been shed upon the subject to cell for such an enactment now. To would answer none but the injurious results of the want of such provisions had been seen in other places and ought to be guarded new lights were dawning constantly in the world and he was a bad counsellor who would not keep Pace with them. Or. Williams said it appeared to him that the Bill contemplated an important change which although it might suit the views of a considerable number but not of the majority. Where he lived there was the largest assemblage of people in i he county and he believed in the stale and he was doubtful if they would agree to it. He was opposed to the Bill. Or. Eggleston said it had been held As a principle in government not to make Liws in anticipation of evil. Yet in had been agreed that penalties might be inflicted to prevent the tendering of illegal votes. And what did the gentlemen offer to justify such a Law such an infliction of penalties did he fear treat gatherings of the people if so let him look at Tippecanoe a Here some one observed. That Vas All one party or. E True it was All one party. There Vas no disorder there although the meeting was charged As the greatest mass of people Ever collected. Tipiere was no injury done or apprehended. Then Why should he fear the gathering of seven or eight Hundred people at the ? As to election frauds ii called on the gentleman to instance one within the last ten or twelve years wherein the result was Al tested Why then impose a restraint upon the people to Correct an imaginary evil. And it would be a great restraint. The county seat was the Centre of Commerce and every body had business there. There a Man give his vote quietly transacts his business and goes Home. It might be inconvenient for individuals to vote in their townships and so their vote would be lost. He proposed to insert in the Bill something like the following whereas there is a Little clique at every county seat and voters Are Likely to be influenced by it therefore every May must vote in his own township. I in. E. Went on to argue against legislating in Advance of evils. Why prescribe a remedy when there was no mischief there Vas no mischief now nor was any mischief Likely to arise for a Hundred years to come. Confine n Man to the spot where he was born and he would acquire local prejudices but let him to the county seat and associate and there his prejudices would be removed. Let men mix and Confer together and party dissensions such As wer. Complained of As existing in the counties on the River would vanish As they become acquainted and As their intimacy increased. Or. Avion had opposed the rejection of the Bill on the ground that it would not be treating it with sufficient respect but now As Many gentlemen had expressed their opinions relative to it he would withhold any further opposition. His opinion was that when any evil existed the people would let it be known to the legislature and then would be the time for the legislature to act. To saw none of the evils that were spoken of arising from the Law As it existed and therefore he would vote against the Bill. He was sorry to hear the remarks that had been made relative to the difference Between town and country. Or. Cravens addressed the Senate in opposition to the Bill. In reference to the gatherings of the people about which so much had been said in the course of the debate there were gatherings last fall of both parties on several occasions but nothing bad had resulted from them. He related a circumstance of several parties going to vote in bodies. The party in which he was was met by an opposite party carrying a Standard about As Large As a common sized counterpane and shouting for Van Buren and Johnson that party passed and yelled and his party allowed them to pass and hallowed. But not a fight took place that Day except one and that was justified by the circumstances which led to it. He was opposed to every principle embodied in the Bill and would give his vote for its rejection. If he were to give his vote to restrain there were two great parties in inc nation the a the people of his county from voting where they plea sed they would hang him in effigy before he got Home. Or. Thomas of a was opposed to the rejection of the Bill it might be retained for future re flexion. Or. Carnan did not wish the Bill to be rejected Hal hoped an Opportunity might be afforded to Amend it. Gentlemen had contended that it was wrong to legis late where an evil did not exist. All knew that the country abounded with complaints of fraud and he was of opinion that some action of the legislature was called for. Suppose an enemy were coming upon us. Gentlemen might As Well agree that we should not devise Means to repel him until he was amongst us. He looked upon the argument that Liberty of voting at the county seat ought to be continued because per sons had frequently to transact business there As fun tile. There were three Hundred and silly four Days in the year besides the Day of election on any one of which every citizen could to the county seat if he chose either for the transaction of business or and other purpose. There were Many opportunities of transacting business Independent of that Day which perhaps at a county seat was not the Day Best calculated for that purpose. The fact of a Man s casting his vote in any particular place was not of much importance to him. As the Law now stood there was no penalty attached to any thing but voting twice. The the Law might be made so As to protect the purity of election farther. Or. Thompson was disposed to reject the Bill in order that his constituents might know that in All the features of the Bill he was opposed to it. Or. Chamberlain would vote against the rejection of the Bill and in favor of its passage. He had heard a voice from his constituents and the people approved of throwing an additional Safe guard about their elections. Why did legislators assemble in houses of representatives because it was impossible for the people to meet. It was then highly important to the people that their representation should be of the utmost purity. By preventing citizens of townships from voting in any town much would be done to preserve the purity of election. In their own townships individuals were generally known whilst in the Large masses of people who assembled at county seats it was impossible that every one could by known and there were consequently greatly facilities for fraud. The vote of Indiana had much increased and it was probable that part of that increase arose from the introduction of foreign voters and from some of the people voting several times which could not prevail if the people were to confine their voting to their own townships. He held in his hand a petition on the subject from the people of his township which had been handed to him by his colleague in the other House. It Vas not the petition of a party but one which emanated from individuals of both parties. Or. C. Then read the petition. The motion to reject was carried by the following Vole ayes messes. Aker Angle Arion Armstrong Bell Berry Clark Collins Cravens Dobson Eggleston Hackett Hargrove Harris Kinzer Mccord Moffatt Mortin Nave Riley Stafford Stevenson Tannehill test Thompson Watts and Williams �?27. . Baird of st. J., Beard of Blair Carnan Carr Chamberlain Elliott Everts Ewing Foster Hanna Herriott Hoover Lowe mounts Nickel Parker and Wrights is. On motion of or. Clark Reso hed that the committee on the judiciary be instructed to examine the Law relating to Domestic attachment and report whether or not the duty of the Constable or sheriff having charge of attached goods is Sullick gently defined in cases where said attached property May be claimed by any other person other than the defendant see Sec. 11 and also to examine the 15lh and 16ih sections of said act and report whether or not the proof therein required is sufficiently defined with leave to report by Bill or otherwise. Bills introduced. By or. Elliott to Amend an act to incorporate the town of new Castle in Henry county by or. Arion for the appointment of a chaps Ain to the state prison. The Senate adjourned. Ii oust of Jurcin . Thursday Jan. 7. Petitions presented by or. Read of the citizens of Carlisle in Sullivan county praying an act of incorporation. By or. Sweetser of g., of sundry citizens of Grant county. By or. Brenton the remonstrance of James Tro ther and others against the review of a state Road. By or. Elkins two petitions of citizens of Jay county relative to attaching a part of that county to Randolph for representative purposes. By Ivor. Rippey of citizens of Elkhart county for a Premium upon the raising of the Mulberry silk amp a. By or. Butler of v., of citizens of Vanderburgh county. By or. Blankenship of sundry citizens of Morgan county relative to the militia of said county. By or. Sweetser of g., of sundry citizens of Grant county All of which were appropriately referred. The House then took up the orders of the Day it and a Large number of Bills were read trie second and third times when the House went into committee of the whole on the Bill to provide in part for the payment of the Public debt and after some time spent therein the committee Rose reported Progress and asked leave to sit again. The House adjourned. Uati. Friday Jan. 8. Messes. Thompson and Aker presented petitions which were appropriately referred. On motion of or. Akes resolved that the judiciary committee be instructed to enquire whether it is la Wail for the school come missioners in the several Coti ties in this state to charge Twenty five per cent interest As contemplated a the 9th Section of an act amendatory to an act entitled Quot an act incorporating congressional township and providing for Public schools therein approved feb. 17, 1840i on Bonds obtained previous to the passage of the act above referred to and if on examination they find it unlawful that they be instructed to report a Bill making it the duty of the several school commissioners to refund the amount so charged to the persons who have paid the same. After the adoption of a Resolution authorizing the committee on the state Library to employ a clerk to make out a Catague of a oks in said Library Tho Senate of rcprc�cntntivc9. Friday Jan. 8. Or. Jen Cices from Tho committee on ways and moans reported a Bill to enable the Treasury to meet the current demands for the civil list for 1841. Or. Rulon fran the judiciary committee reported a Bill for the Relief of the Miami and other indians. Or. Fairing a of from the committee on the state Bank reported a Bill giving further time to the borrowers of the sinking fund the surplus Revenue and for other purposes. Or. Dowling from a select committee to whom the subject was referred reported against any reduction in the prices paid for Public printing which a not con stirred in by the House. The Bill to provide for a revision by the governor of the general Laws of this state was read the third time and passed. Or. Jones from a select committee reported a Bill providing for the draining of the swamps Ponds and see ath Page

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