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Indianapolis Monroes Iron Clad Age (Newspaper) - September 20, 1884, Indianapolis, IndianaThe Iron Oviad , the a Volute Seymour times8-a.tijmda.y, sept. 20, 1884.the ironclad age. Indianapolis. Sept 20, 1884. Ii we a a in Frt w la coi it in a a Kuno the Fullow Luie k�1kioiin Frt fiume Zaiac no Iii Utt let Tiu t a it tile l noted a Luton Sec. 1. Neither Congress nor any Bunte shall Riibe any Law reaper Lynh an of religion or Lavorino any parti Culibr form of Rel Kiou or pro lii iting the free exercise thereof or permitting in any degree a Union of Church and stale or glinting any special privilege Imam Unity or advantage to any sect or religious body or to any number of sects or religious bodies or taxing the people of any state either directly or indirectly for the support of any sect or religious body or of any number of sects or religious l Odies or abridging the Freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people peacefully to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of a relevance a. Sec. 2. No religious test shall Ever be require Adas a condition of suffrage or As a qualification to any office or Public Trust in any state. No person shall Evet be deprived of any of his or her rights Polvi Lages or capacities or disqualified for the performance of any Public or private duty or rendered ii competent to give evidence in any court of Law or equity in consequence of any opinions he or she May hold on the subject of religion. No person shall Over be required bylaw to contribute directly or indirectly to the support of any religions society nobody of which she or he is not a voluntary Mem Ber. Sec. 3. Neither the United states nor any state territory or municipality or any civil division of any state or territory shall Levy any tax or make any gift Grant or appropriation for the support or in Aid of any Church religious sect or denomination or any school Seminary or institution of learning in which the Faith or doctrines of any religious order or sect shall be taught or inculcated or in which religious rites shall be observed or for the supporter in Aid of any religious Charity or purpose of any sect orderer denomination whatever. Sue. 4. Congress shall have Power to enforce the Onri Inch provisions of this by appropriate leg a Llalon. Jan. 8,105,-9y investigation of conjuration. Rochelle ills., sept. 9, 84. De. Ironclad aae the following article was written by or. Ahidley for the Rochelle Register but was refused publication on the ground that All religious debate is at present barred. Otto Wettstein. A 84. Have with Verona pa., red. Register i much pleasure read your Able correspondent countryman on his Art of conjuration by words. If such a line of argument is considered Good and legitimate for him surely he cannot find fault when the Scales Are turned. It is True Quot one does not believe what he does not Why does he not believe because he not evidence to command his conviction. Belief depends upon evidence he who believes without evidence is a bigot because he is Superior to evidence and can easily believe in opposition to evidence As with evidence. A bigot can believe or disbelieve without caring for evidences because he is above vulgar evidences or beneath them. No Man doubts whether he doubt or not. Doubt has reference ence to to things want of evidence and the intelligence of the Doubter. The Doubter is waiting for the evidence that will compel his convictions. Truth is a knowledge of a fact. The Doubter is patiently waiting for that knowledge of fact called god. Doubt and belief prove nothing Only doubt on one hand and belief on the other. The fact will prove the belief or the doubt Correct. The belief or the doubt does not prove the fact. If god exists it would be the fact and his existence would prove his existence besides proving the belief right and the disbelief wrong. Man doubts for want of the fact of his existence. The fault is not in the Doubter but in the want of evidence. If Man has to believe give evidence to command conviction. To believe to doubt or to disbelieve is neither criminal or virtuous. No Merit or Demerit a i pertains to a belief or disbelief in any proposition. Evidences prove things True or false. When evidence shows a proposition is True Man believes when evidence proves anything false Man disbelieves. When the evidences Are equal neither proving or disproving the proposition Man doubts. Man to believe without evidence May be offered a Premium for his Faith. So much Faith for so much Reward or a Crown of glory when you Are dead. Can any Man who knows that belief depends upon evidence expect that god will give a Premium for Faitie and punishment for the want of it when All that he has to do is to give evidence and All will believe god i am told is All Power fill All Wise. His Wisdom would teach him to know How to give proof. His Power would enable Hirn. As god loves his children to would not leave them with out vide acc and then punish theia for his own neglect. If god has spoken nil the universe would have heard it and All Mankind would be forced to believe because the evidence would command their convictions. How puzzling it is to be informed that one May doubt until one comes to the Point where doubt denies itself. This is not a Correct it is a false statement perhaps the writer had never examined the cause of doubt. Doubt May Rise from ignorance As Well a from intelligence. Doubt disappears when evidence compels belief. Doubt never denies or affirms it simply says i am waiting for evidence. The proposition is not True that Quot doubt denies itself Quot had it been True an argument would have been built upon the state agent. The Only argument to be found upon that statement is silence. If doubt denies itself it is no longer doubt but disbelief because it Quot denies the whole article of your angry correspondent angry he is in the latter end of the epistle the whole is a Good display of reasoning from words not facts. Intelligence is a causal property of organic Man. Is Man s intelligence and god s to be mixed up in such a fashion if so then there can be no fault in following suit. However ranch you May believe you can Only carry your belief to believe that you do believe which is no evidence of the truth of what you do believe. Believing is no More proof than doubting or disbelieving they Are states of the intellect rising from evidences. Intelligence being a human attribute cannot be said to be an attribute of god because Man has Many Assous which if introduced into this discussion would explode the conjuration of words employed with such a flourish. A thing cannot be known until it exists it is not argument of words that proves the existence of the thing but the existence of the thing proves itself and proves the argument Tobe founded upon fact. Intelligence is a fact. Intelligence is of human growth. Intelligence weighs evidences. Evidences causes belief doubt and denial or disbelief. The abuse of the word eternal being is out of place because nothing is known of eternal being. A11 arguments found upon intelligence Only prove intelligence and that intelligence not Only grows but Dies. Quot a god Quot or god argument upon intelligence would prove that god could believe according to evidence and disbelieve for want of the same or be in suspense when evidence was wanting to command his connection. Such an argument put Forth by a Man who is pleased to think that the writer of that conjuration of words is Quot a philosopher for the existence of a if that argument is fairly carried out in the reduction and Abs drum it would prove not thousands of gods but millions of Quot a Quot gods. The first attempt of design argument i have seen from the pen of we. Alvin. I am afraid he is As greatly at sea in the design of air As in the human intelligence argument. Design most assuredly proves a designer once did exist but does not prove a designer does exist. All experience in Art leads up to the artist and designer. What experience in nature loads to a nature Ninkov in Art experience that the designer often die and the a signed remains. In nature has its maker designer gone defunct and nature remains if so How do you know if not Why not in Art watches Are made to Tell the time of Day. In nature Spicci s Are made to catch Hies and mud Wasj s to catch Jii lers. In Art All oxi Jeriene show that the l Siguer is moved by a cause to design. The cause May be want or ambition never Caprice or Chance. Did the designer design nature because to wanted it if to want was the first cause and the nature maker was jul used by in in enc by want to design nature. When his want is satisfied will to whisk it out if the designer did not design through want was it Capricci of to that was a fault. If neither want or Caprice was the cause that Jinhu Ensti induced and gave the motive to design was it Chance if so that was a i Jud Der. If want when that want is satisfied what will be Trio result nature in existence not wanted by her maker if Caprice then nature is never Safe a capricious whim and All is retain Iii to a Clia Otic dandelion of j in Iucci i to nothing. If Chance then nature Only remains by Chance. Design always carries three Marks with it order Beauty and Utility. Order shows intelligent arrangement lie Auty shows artistic taste. I Utility Points out the Good air complis Heil. Wherever order Beauty and Utility Are found there is int Filligene design. Nature has r order in i r. She is governed by the his of causation inherent in hrs it if. Nature has Beauty in her. Slu is not All ugliness. Nature has Intili Utility in her. She is tit altogether useless. As All intelligent design has within itself order lie Auty and Utility please allow Nie to in fire of one who is so competent to prove by the logic of conjuration that Quot a god Quot yet the Quot philosophers Quot facts if facts were drop Ned in the confusion of conjuration of that one i wish to inquire has the designer any order in him if so that is a Mark of design. If no order in him then the designer is a mass of confusion. Confusion cannot design. Has the designer Beauty in him if so that is a Mark of design. If no Beauty in him then the designer is a mass of ugliness. Has the designer any Utility in him if so that is a Mark of design. If no Utility in him then he is a mass of useless Ness. These Marks of design either exists in this Quot a god Quot or they do not. If they exist then the designer was designed and the next designer having these Marks of design would also have been designed. This argument instead of proving Quot a god Quot will prove millions of Quot a it proves too much and that is equal to too Little therefore proves nothing Only it is a Little More Plain than the Schoolman s trick of taking human intelligence and thrusting it into the eternal universe and calling it a being and Quot a in the closing remarks of your Able scribe the Good of his heart or the anger of his passion i cannot Tell which a Pencil of Light on the subject would be Welcome with less motes in it. Let me quote the part with All its Beauty Quot and since your Quot no god Quot must collapse by True Christian philosophy and the All Wise and creative god be established in your reason i expect to see you fall upon your Knees in worshipping him in spirit and in truth unless you shall find some other fortress of Folly to Retreat to into Quot or. Editor please allow me to talk plainly Anil sincerely to or. Countryman. Granting that god does exist and is All Wise what homage can he want from the children of Clay has he not made us have we made ourselves is he not All Wise or do you think he has spoiled his work being oar maker he is responsible for us not we for him. The maker is Ever responsible for the work not the work for the maker. If the work is wrong where lies the fault Man is an ignorant child of Clay or. Dust. Who made him ignorant the All Wise go is perfection perfect. Man is perfect. Where lies the fault the All Wise perfect maker or the ignorant imperfect child Jpn Earth ? god s duty to his children is to give them All the Good in his Power. When he has done that then he has done Iii duty and All he can expect is love and Noble Manly honest courage not sinking Down upon our Knees and be smear him with foursome flattery. The All Wise All powerful creator of the universe wanting homage from poor a eak Crew itunes of his framing this is Folly ran made. Of countryman what Quot a god Quot thou Hast can you for a moment remember the teaching of a Cert in Man who you profess to know ? Quot do unto others Asye would have them do unto when your Quot a god Quot made Man of the dust Antl gave him a Little Power to Little knowledge and such Little Faith and us ording to you wants him to believe or woe will be his lot. Lot me ask you is that Quot a god Quot of yours doing unto the children of dust As he would have them do unto him be yours Quot a god Quot not to Boas Good As Man is that Law Good enough for Man ? but your Quot a god Quot will have none of it. Is god s morality not equal to ours we Lesi it ise a bad father upon Earth Are we to Tumble knead and play the sycophant to a bad father in the sky u on Earth Here had lessons Tau Glit them. The science of morality will teach the tyrant idol of win. Alvin countryman to act justly and righteously unto the Nolde sons of Clay. s Al Ley. Bodily resurrection. Atlanta 1a., sept. 7, 84. My. Ii on a in lob has it Quot i f a Man die shall he live again Quot jut for the Uitti not to die Ami that Uii Roa of Diuble desire to revive such a Yieh Ion my never been ii skein but for an imbecile Ilea in Tiu from the plainest facts Andia silly disposition to gulp Down the crudest such a Quei Tiomi had never Boon Given a Inq Niento n thought. Nfn Ort Holess Iii the new lest ment the main part of he b Kuk i ill he the i Bible the entire scheme of its salvation is staked on the Dogma of bodily resurrection. I his will be found in the 15th chapter of 1st corinthians from the pen of Paul tile chief inspired writer of the Booi. He says Quot if the dead Rise not Thela is Christ not raised. Your Faith k in vain and be Are yet in your sine and we Are of All men most see 1st Cor. 15 13-21. Now to decide this question a to utterly explode this religious Dogma we Only need to look straight at the plainest facts 1. The Bible itself shows its Absurdity. Accept its Assumption of an All Wise and All powerful god is it not self evident then that his Wisdom and Power would perpetuate the lives of his creatures instead of having them die that he might thousands of years after make them again live were it possible for any reasonable being thus to act 2. Among All the impossibilities on Earth bodily resurrection is chief. In some cases before death ensues limbs Are lost at different times and places in others the bodies emaciated Down to skin and Bones and billions of our race have for thousands and indeed millions of years gone Back to Earth to weeds Trees and grains and other animals they in turn go into endless changes. Now in All Candor we ask for a bigger Absurdity or falsity than to affirm these once living identical bodies Are raised into life there can no More be any such bodies than if they had never been. To talk of resurrecting a body when there is in fact not a particle of any such body to raise is to utter the words of a fool and must i add a liar then if All the dead bodies peopling this Earth for Ages upon Ages past could again be brought at once to life and closely packed together Over land and sea there would probably be no less than Twenty layers. Certainly this estimate is not extravagant when considering the future generations yet to live for countless Ages in our world. A Good Deal of Force will be needed in the blast of Gabriel s Horn to get them All up and to find standing sitting or lying room for the countless masses. More Power than was sent out of Joshua s ram s horns on the Walls of Jericho will be called for in this Gabriel resurrection. When o when will our Fellows Settle Down upon a Little common sense and love of simple truth w. R for the ironclad age. chapter found or furnished. Phelps mo., sept. 8, 84. 1. And it came to pass in the Nineth month of the reign of Crittenden in the first year thereof at the ripening of melons even at the time when Spring chickens waxed unto a goodly size and the odor of Ripe peaches was perceived upon the air that the m. E. Priests of the most High god gathered themselves together in a Well prepared wilderness to proclaim salvation unto such As tilled the soil. 2. Then Rose up the Husbandmen and their wives and they took of the fat and the lean of their flocks even of the first and of the second and of the third born of their flocks and of to Weir Spring chickens a goodly number also of sundry cakes and pies an Heap and they brought them into the wilderness unto the priests of the most High and they laced them before them saving 3. Quot eat be All of 4. And the priests of the St High god bowed their Heads Jjon the goodly hash and they Wunk at their inward souls with both eyes even at the same time and they listed up their voices great hardship and gave thanks unto the most High who never Quot Sun Quot a Mutton picked a Spring Chicken nor baked a doughnut for a Lazy shameless bloodsucking drone of a priest in All his life. 5. And they got themselves upon the outside of the goodly provender and thus did they for seven Days. G. And upon the eighth Day the priests of the most High sat apart from the people. 7. And this Heathen looked with wonder upon the Wise priests. 8. And it came to pass while yet he gazed upon the priests known ing that they did All things for the glory of god behold on i of them Drew Forth an Ivory toothpick and thrust it into the midst of his molars and brought Forth upon its Point the last fragment of brother very devout s last shop but he Wist not that it was the last of the last born of brother Villock. I. And to spake unto the others saying 10. Quot it see meth Good that we lie Here 11. Let us therefore abide yet another seven 12. Then thrust yet another of the priests his toothpick in. 13. And when he Drew it Forth again behold the last fragment of sister soft snap s last Spring Chicken Clave unto it. 14. But he Wist not How that the thing was am pc in Roll. 15, and he answered the other priest saying Quot the eating is yet in. Then spake they with one voice and said 17. Quot yet another seven Days shall the work of the most High be carried 18. Then whispered satan to this Heathen Quot behold these priests be frauds and they run blazers even upon idiots and cripples for their hash and Fine 19. Then said i unto satan 20. Quot get thee unto the source of the River of Chloride of sodium or in other words go up 21. Quot these Are the upright and valiant through whom the seed of the woman shall Bruise thy head. Git i say Quot 22. Quot not for nine billion tuns of Brimstone and ruined souls enough to consume it 2, 10 1-4. 23. Quot seven thousand Camp meetings Are in full blast and i am having my own fun at All of 24. Quot the Harvest is whitening for my 25. Quot god proposes and the Devil 20. Quot see you later Willi fruits bar these revivals soon tile granaries of hell Hii Uii 27. Then lifted i mine eyes and saw the poetic Devil Mas gone. 28. Even As the Mutton and Spring chickens were gone. 29. The priests of the most High were upon that same Day called of god to other Fields. B. E. Boyd scribe. He s had a glorious trip. Buji Lingoth Junction mo., Sef t. 9, 1884. Do. Monroe find enclosed a Post office order for which you will please renew my ticket accordingly. I have been on Board the ironclad for the past three months and i can say that i have enjoyed a most glorious trip. Hold High the head Light which guides this Noble ship and let its Light beam Forth until it Lightens the entire face of old Mother Earth and penetrates the darkness of superstition and becomes the guiding Star of every human mind. It has a grand and glorious Mission to perform but it is a Long and wearisome one for it seems to to the Only Way that grand human reforms can be accomplished. Let Ever infidel lend a helping hand in moulding the mighty key which is to unlock the great doors from which behind them beams the Light of enlighten to revealing to the entire world All the mysteries and secrets of the whole human family and with a Wise and mighty hand grasp the infernal institution called christianity together with All its superstitions the fears of its unmerciful god the temptation of its heaven the horrors of its hell and release its Iron grip from the people and lock it out far from the reach and knowledge of Man. Then and Only then Avill True humanity be realized. People will not simply exist but live and enjoy and Admire in reality the grandeur and All the beauties of nature and make a heaven of this Beautiful Earth and not paint it with human blood As has been the Case in the dark Ages of the p is. Such was not living. Of had 1 the ability the masterly Power to express my thoughts and with one stroke of my Jen expose to every human Eye the miserable Hail of falsehood with which the entire of Quot sky pilots Quot manufactured All the gods devils heavens and Hells in order to Creatis fear by which to Rule the masses for the sole purposes of their own selfishness. I say let the Noble ironclad with its faithful Captain at the Helm sail from sea to sea from nation to nation until it has performed its grand tour and accomplished its Noble work of Awakening the Dormont enlightening the ignorant strengthening the weak Ali i j Oor the feeble and totally demolishing and destroying All fears which for centuries Lias been Tor roiling to the innocent but a mighty sword in the hands of those who ruled. Air ise. . The hol Koks of the inquisition what the Catholic religion was what it is from the i a Roll lii hot it a Anthony Onvan in cd Cathou lie priest Aivil ii Uhter of arly in Usu Iii Verity of thu City of Kiu ii ii a a in tui Kini Idom of Arr Nuon in Heliin. Send hero for it. Price Post paid Uny where a 10 cd Del the we for lit i. Wick ill a potty it ution to has fellow beings from Clu it Iii incr in 4 Turko of the Iron Olad age an alleged will cd paper wicked for the reason that it a few nine Isles and scared a politic. Must Joii Ralh Are u add to the Gianis with Prin Peiples Playfu Nikii and i Oliviea. Lint tiie ironclad Aye by heaving most of these overboard la enabled to Tel a i a Ood less without a god Lla Pluess without a heaven salvation without a Savior. And redemption without a redeemer. It is Iii us the Only great paper in the Ireat West that is Able to run wit Liouta god or Devil or ghost. The age is full of human i Yui panties but As none of these Are wasted a ism the Savois and Jionda it has an abundance for the beings of Earth. People who weep Over the Sull Eringa of the alleged Quot Savior Quot Ai Dom weep much for Auu ering Man except he be nude and in Africa without ii Ottle Bible or revolver. The ironclad age is warmly attached to life and the Sci july Iii id Lapp guess that attend it yet it is a Kiriu in Kliever in death and its ability to end All. The Iron id age Allsto see the of a vast Host of Able bodied i augers of matters Between men and the Powers Lut in i Louis and it holds if a Man s soul is to be a Vii by Ishii s work the Man thai has the soul has got i i do the work. Till ironclad age believes the men of a nation ought to take care of ii Pim Ami pro incl the women and children of that nation and that such men As and abuse these ought to r otherwise of. The ironclad age Bias but faint love for boys who a Kijuc Birds disobey their parents or Lack re for the aged. A i he ironclad a age ought to be but it in t a favorite with the Jii oui Sisters of the clip Icli by Cali a it defect id their beloved pastors when in used of carrying on after tue manner of the wicked to Tidlings who Kwiw 111 god nor that does know him. I lie ironclad has pity ice the victims �1 misplaced you Tidence the Little ii is that Lisle in rain barrels ail the Feble Midi d ministers and priests ,Rollin their upw\.r.l, Iii Plon vacuity and nol Iii i ices to iced Andla Ellie them and confound their Zuei Zitea. L Iii Wick l Pio Primor of the ironclad age is Iii lived Birs 31 a head Foi ghosts utile or Bis old of Young mail or female holy in unholy and he wants a i he can get. Lie is also Lif teen i ullars 315.0 10 a head Lor virgins who Are mothers lie has furthermore a standing Oiler of Tilleen Jii Lilou dollars ,5,000,0lm for just one sane Man who will say he really believes Thero Ever was a father who was the Sou of himself or a son who was the father of himself or a ghost who was both c f pm or either or pm or All of pm. Tie ironclad age Wlinich was formerly the Seymour time swill enter its the year March 2uth, 1881. It is a hands Miely printed is column paper it 1� a Freet Houglin paper that you will find you want and want bad if you once begin to read it. The terms Are one . Nix ,.91.4u. Three inontlim.7ti can. In writing for the ironclad age on close Money and state your age and sex. If you have religion to fall Back on when you cheat your neighbor or starve your , Gay so. Also if Yon have an immortal soul say so like a Man and state if it Haa Ever been of use to you and the creatures about you. If you Haven t an immortal soul and the chances Are that you Haven t. The Iione lad ago will teach you How to get along and be useful and Good wifi out one. Revised at Indianapolis ind., die. 1st, in the year of american Independence Lohn in Christian computation 18s i which by the Way is l ased upon an alleged event that never happened or if it it lii it is Uncertain a am Ami in any event it was of no sort of and therefore being a starting Point or superstition Only ought now to be discarded. , ,1. It. Mon i of . . The demands 0f libel Alisa. 1. We Demoind Liat clip relies and other dec. ,>.As-Tlcal property a a Hall no longer lie exem it from jus taxation. 2. We demand Liat the employment of Cap Lizina in Congress in state Legislatures in tie ii avy and militia and in prims any Lizins and ail other institutions Suppi irked by i Ulilla Niini a shall lie Discon to nixed. U. Be demand Attiat ail Pul die for educational and i liar italic a sectarian Lianxiu a Liall Case. I. U e demand that ail services now Sims Tiiu d by lii Liiv Crement Liall tic abolished and Espi scially the us of tie in the Public Scisi iils a lie Lier Sti As a text Book or Jivoin div a a a Book of religions w i a soil Small la pro Hili item. N. We demand Liat Thea i i Quot inti Lieut by Theresi deut of the l Multi d Tate or by tie governors of the various states fall l . Lestly Lanaud fast shall a Lilly Case. I we demand tent the Judie Al path in to court i and in Ali ii it do Partemi Isuf tie Gnavi run sent Liall be abolished and that a Miili under Ilio pains and penalties of Peiji iry a Hall be established in eth Sti and. 7. We Liat ail la is dire by or infill restly Viilo Reisig tie Observance of Sui iday As the Sabbath Sliaut be repealed. We demand ail Laws Lon King to the on liar Lemeut of Iii i rarity Liall be abrogated and Liat ail Laws Slu in a Quot to tie Reid fire men Sof natural morality c Iii Al i Glitz Aud ii Ipar tall Liberty find Liat no or vile end Iid Vantage shall be conceded to Christiari v or airy other special religion Indiana paper co., of of of every de Ija Gss Floity sacks s i i i lil h a Kyj i dual to. Kay st., a ii la a iia a Ltd in a Iii. The Pipor ii Poi which the aft a id printed by this Ooin Pliny. Oct. 28 fall for 10 cents. The picture of the Bible god with Rome chapters of Nice Reading beat hons. of thia beaut Kui picture can not fail to to spire Devotion and love of god in Tea Mindi of All beholder. Ten cents by mail. Dlr it count to the Trade. Add Rem j. B. Monroe Moroli 81, 8s. ind

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