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Indianapolis Indiana Journal (Newspaper) - January 23, 1830, Indianapolis, Indiana Vol. Vil. In anal Olis saturday january 23, 1830. No. 352. Published by Douglass amp my Guy re. Terms. Seventy five cents during the session of the legislature. One Dollar for three months including the session of the legislature. Two dollars per annul if paid in Advance. Three dollars at the end of the year. Advertisements inserted at the usual terms. The Richmond enquirer of the 22d Ultimo speaking of the proceedings of the preceding saturday says a Quot it was interesting on Many accounts. The All absorbing question of the basis of representation came up again to be decided. The ayes and noes were called seven times during the Day. The question assumed a variety of forms. The sense of the convention was tried on or. Leigh s scheme of representation. It was tried on the plan of the Federal basis in the House of Doi Gates and the White basis in the be ate it was tried on the mixed basis in the House of delegates and the Federal basis in the Senate a on the plan of taking or. Gordon s apportionment for the present and a prospective re apportionment in the year 1841, and every 20 years thereafter founded on the number of free White inhabitants for the h6use of delegates and on the Federal basis for the Senate. But All these propositions were lost and the last one by an a division of All the convention 48 to 48.�?and finally the Only proposition for the basis of representation which was fou id to unite a majority of votes was or. Gordon s Resolution a which adopted no specified basis and provided for no prospective apportionment. This Resolution prevailed by a majority of 14 votes. Bat what made this Day still More interest Iii were the speeches which were delivered just before the vote tvs taken. As the chair m As in the act of propounding the question or. Cooke of Frederick arose to address the House. He Rose to give his Rea so Iii at Lara of for voting for or. Gor Don resold Ion a was followed on the same Side by or Henderson of Loudon. The speeches of these gentlemen Are this Day Laid before our readers and they will Best speak for we cannot Transfer to this paper the Earnest and emphatic and eloquent manner with which they poured Forth their sentiments. Few Are the scenes which during this convention have equalled this one in the intensity of feeling s that it produced. The speeches of messes. Cooke and Henderson successively called up messes. Thiompson Johnsof and Mercer and the remarks of or. Mercer called up or. Upshure and some scenes were developed to the House which had been exhibited elsewhere and which seem to have affected in no slight degree the proceedings of the conv edition itself. The House did not adjourn till after Sun set having protracted their session nearly 6 hours. Yesterday a new scheme for future apportionment founded on the basis of qualified voters was presented by or. Stuart Laid upon the table and ordered to be printed. After having passed through the remaining resolutions of the Luigi Stative committee the chair passed on to the executive report. The 1st amended Resolution which came up from the committee of the whole directs the election of the governor by the legislature. Or. Mercer proposed to elect him by the people. This amendment prevailed by a majority of 4 votes. A debate next came on upon a proposition to constitute a controlling executive Council of three members. The motion failed by a tie of the House and then the Resolution itself for appointing a lieutenant governor in the same manner As the governor Wasal so lout. From the debate which took place on these two propositions it seemed sufficiently obvious that the Fate of or. Mercer s proposition had been affected by the basis of representation one e gentleman at least declaring that since the vote of saturday in favor of or Gordon s Resolution he had determined to give the election of governor to the people and another declaring that since this last measure had been adopted he had determined to give the governor an executive Council and thus it is that the All absorbing question As it has been too niely called is found mixing itself up with so Many questions Quot chief Justice Marshall s speech in the Virginia convention december 6th, on the basis of representation. Or. Marshall Rose a and addressed the committee nearly As follows a two propositions have been moved. One party has moved a basis of White population alone f the other basis com pounded of White pop lation and tat action combined. The question Bas been discussed until discussion is useless and argued until the argument is exhausted. We have now met ii the ground of a Compromise. It is no longer a question whether the one or the other exclusively shall be adopted but whether we shall adopt As a Compromise a combination of the two to As to unite the House on something who h we May recommend to the people of Virginia and which we May reasonably Hope will be acceded to. But now on the subject of Compromise two propositions Are again presented to the committee. Tie one of these is that the two principles originally proposed shall be made the basis of representation in one Bouse of the legislature and the other in the other House the other proposition is that the two principles shall be combined together and made the basis of both houses. This latter proposition contains a Middle principle Between the basis of White population exclusively and the basis of White population and taxation combined. The motion of the gentleman from Augusta or. Johnson to strike out the word Quot resolved Quot from the proposition uttered by the gentleman from Northampton or. Upshur a intended to substitute for the combined ratio which is the foundation of that gentleman s scheme the proposition of the gentleman from Frederick or. Cook which is to introduce White population exclusively As the basis of the House of delegates and White population and taxation combined As the basis Offles Enapp. This is the question now before the committee. We Are engaged on the subject of a Compromise a Compromise of principles which neither Are willing to conceded the very term Compromise implies Mutual Concession some Concession there must be but the quantum of Concession by the two parties must Fippen in circumstances which should be Well considered before we it commit ourselves. Let us inquire Hen what is the situation of the Par dec in this convention on this will depend the reasonableness of any Compromise that in proposed. The course of tie discussion convincingly shews the sincerity with which each principle is supported there can be no doubt of the honest conviction of each Side that their demands Are fair and just. The claims of both Are support a wit i equal sincerity and an equally honest conviction that their own principles Are Correct and that every principle advanced by their opponents is unwise and incorrect. On the subject of principle nothing can be added no doubt can be entertained of the sincerity of both sides to attempt to throw considerations of principle into either scale is but to add fuel to the flame. We must have lost sight of the is tuition of the parties if More on that subject shall be thrown by either into the scale. What is that situation a question Hus Bee Takee in the committee on the first proposition submitted to us and decided by a majority of Trio. Is it possible under existing Circum Stan stances that any Confidence can be reposed either by the majority or the a minority that the same question will be hereafter again decided precisely in the same manner can we be Blind to the actual working of opinion do not gentlemen believe it to be More than probable that some of the members of the majority May change their opinions and thus leave the House equally divided and even More than that May throw this scanty majority with the same paucity of numbers upon the other Side can any gentleman Here be confident How that question will be ultimately decided none of us can be certain that the result of the question in the House will be the same As it has been in this committee. Let us decide one Way or the other if the majority shall be so Small and the opinions of the convention shall be nearly balanced there will be scarcely any weight in the recommendation of the convention. The majority and minority will have equal weight and the Only weight will be in the proposition itself. Is it possible to conceal from ourselves that the powerful arguments of the minority conveyed to the people through the press and supported by the interest Felt in the question on the Side of the minority May not produce a different effect in the Community ? is it vain to Endeavor to conceal the fact that in a part of the Eastern country and that South of James River there Are interests which must and will be Felt with Force unless human nature shall cease to be what it has Heinall the time. It is impossible to say what May be the influx be of those interests abroad though they May exert to influence on the members of this convention. And it is by no Means certain that they will have no influence Here also. Admitting gentlemen to retain their theories theories which they Are perfectly honest in maintaining still there is another theory equally Republican with theirs Viz that it is the duty of a representative to speak the will of his constituents. I cannot say Bow far this May carry Gen Lenien neither can we say what will be the ultimate decision either of this House or of the people. Taking this View of the state of parties it is Manifest that a rom Promise to be just must not Only be Mutual but equal also. The claims Are the same on both sides each ought to concede to the other All they demand and thus meet on Middle ground. There can be no Hope that either party will yield More than it gets in return. What is that Middle ground one party proposes that the House of delegates shall be based upon White population exclusive a add the Senate on a mixed ratio of population and taxation or on the Federal numbers. The other party s proposition is that the White basis and the Federal numbers shall be combined in one average ratio of the two and this ratio shall be made the basis of representation in both houses the last of these two must be equal. All feel it to be equal. If the two principles Are combined exactly and made the basis of both houses it is equal perfectly so is the other equal ? i ask them if they think 80? the party who Are in favor of a compound basis in both houses say that it is their conviction that there is no Equality in the proposition they at least think it unequal. How can they accede to a proposition they firmly believe to be unequal do others think it equal if they do Why not take what they offer us they consent that the Senate shall be founded on the mixed basis and the House of delegates on the White basis. If not Why not there can Only be one reason it is that the proposition is unequal. If the Senate protects the East does it not protect the West also if the proposition is equal when offered by them to us is it not equal when offered by us to them if it is equal no matter in which House it is established. If there is any difficulty it is because it is unequal. And if it is unequal can gentlemen believe that inequality can be embraced ought they to wish it after the warm language to say the East that has been used on both sides i Hail a proposition for Compromise with As much Joy As the inhabitants of the Polar regions Hail the rising Sun after an absence of six months. Can it prove to be fallacious is it a meteor and not the glorious luminary that gives gladness to All yet it must be so if we do not meet on equal ground. If we do not meet upon the line that divides us and shake hands and make our Compromise equal it is vain to Hope that any Compromise can be made. And went to Shew that with a Large sail and a fresh Breeze carriages May be propelled with great velocity. South Carolina rail Road. The legislature of South Carolina has Pas de a Bill which provides for a loan or Advance of one Hundred thousand dollars to the South Carolina rail Road company for seven years without interest. A Bill providing for a i subscription of $250,000 to the Stock of said company had previously passed the lower House but was rejected in the . Rail roads in France. That rail roads Are far preferable to canals for communication is a truth of which England has been Only of late convinced by the dear bought fruits of experience. Our Continental neighbors profiting by our discovery Are gradually extending throughout the whole of their Fine country a system of communication by rail roads which ultimately will be of extreme Benefit to their Domestic Commerce. The rail Road Between St. Tienne and Lyons is now rapidly advancing and from the tunnels Bridges and embankments required for its completion will be inferior to none of which this kingdom can at present Albion. Rail roads in England. It now seems that the Sankey canal heretofore the most profitable in England is about to be converted into a rail Road such a Road is projected from Londott to Liverpool. Many others Are contemplated. It is repeated that can Ltd property is ruined in that country. A letter from Liverpool to a gentleman in Baltimore dated 19th nov. Says Quot the late experiments must save you a great Deal of Rooney in levelling. Rain Hill inclined plane ascends one foot in ninety fifty five feet per Mil and it was intended to place a stationary engine on it but it is now quite unnecessary As the locomotives ascend it with considerable Loidis. Or. Gur Ney offers to make an engine that will ascend an inclined plane of one foot in twelve 440 feet per Mil and take three times its own weight up he does not say at what Speed. Be in no hurry in pushing your Road for what is going on Here will gain you much in it formation and save you a great Deal of Money. The Manchester rail Road Stock has advanced to �l61, and the Bolton and Leigh to �124. The daily expense of a locomotive engine now at work on the Manchester Road a Large engine is engine Man 4s, fireman 2s Ron is 4d, 8s \0 / Oil is 1 the Kam Tschapka mountains the mountains of Kam Tschapka Alt Bough surpassed in height by the lofty summits of the Andes and Himalaya rank among the highest mountains of the Globe and appear even More elevated than others of an equal height Frona their rising almost perpendicularly out of the Plain lifting their Snow Clad Points immediately into the Blue vault of heaven. These mountains Moreon ver now incessantly vomit Forth fire and smoke from their summits. Kar Kazakin which is nearly As High As the Peak of Teneriffe ends in a column of smoke which in the clearest night obscures the Moon and stars. The Ava Tscha Skaja never ceases to throw up masses of fire a wondering spectacle for persons far and near since the year 827, when the Summit first opened r is loftier than Montblanc for it is 6,542 feet above the level of the sea Over which u spreads its ashes and Moke. But the advantage in Point of grandeur which it possesses Over Montblanc May be estimated on that instead of the thousand ice Hills by which the latter is surrounded the rises uninterruptedly As a Cone free and unbroken on All sides from the level of the . From Niles Reg after Jan 2. Power. Some very interesting experiments look place on the Baltimore and Ohio rail Road on monday last and have been continued during the week. A Large number of persons have attended to witness them of whom Many were distinguished strangers. Among the experiments we no Tice these one horse with the same apparent ease that he would have drawn a gig Over a smooth and hard Road moved two of Winans cars Laden with forty one persons at the rate of Between ten and eleven Miles an hour. The distance travelled out and in was about 5 Miles. Another horse Drew 25 persons on a Carriage of another construction to the end of the rails and Back in a Lively Trot. A second trip was made with the same horse. Carriage and Load at the rate of 12 Miles an hour. A single horse then Drew two carriages and fifty five persons nine Miles an hour a third Carriage was attached and the whole loaded with eighty four men and women and the horse performed the trip with the same ease and velocity. Another Carriage with seven persons was rapidly driven by a Winch worked by two of them. Two dogs attached to a car trotted off with a Load of six persons. Those who have not seen can hardly believe such things but they Are True. Among the experiments on tuesday was one made by a car fitted with a soil. Though the Breeze was gentle six persons were carried in it at a rapid rate. J he Experiment afforded much amusement to be spectators. 10s Lod now if this engine draws 30 tons and travels at the rate of 10 Miles an hour which appear quite moderate in the present Prospect of things the actual Cost of transportation will be at the rate of less than one tenth part of a a cent per mile the engine working 12 hours per Day. Thus 30 tons carried 120 Miles is equal to 3,600 tons carried one mile. The Cost As stated is 10s Iod Equa to 242cents 3,600 tons or 242 cents yields Only 008 part of a cent per ton per Iles. While on the subject of Power we May add the following from the Pittsburgh statesman a a Quot most of us remember for it is hut a few years since when it took from 50 to 70 Days to make the trip by water to Cinci Nejati and Back to Pittsburg. The Intercourse Between these places has become constant and the time of performing a trip is greatly lessened. On the 10th inst. The steam boat Niagara started from our wharf we sent by her an order on the foundry of o. H. Wells amp a co. For a casting to Supply a part of our printing press that had been broken. The order arrived at Cincinnati on the 12th, was filled on the 14th, the casting was ship Ped on the 15th, and arrived at pats Burg on the 19th. It is five Hundred Miles to Cincin Nati. Thus a passage of 1000 Miles was performed in nine Days std an important and indispensable Appen Dage supplied in n less time than would have taken a team to re cd Philadelphia a City which lately furnished All our materials. The Prog Gress of Trade is to the West and a River the navigation of which a few years since during the Days of Mike Fink was considered dangerous and which Many asserted could not be navigated by steam boats is destined to become its principal Channel and out Sierra Leone. A counts have been received from Sierra Leone says a London paper of the death of major i Ketts Royal african colonial corps he lieutenant governor of Sierra Leone. This is the seventh governor of that ill fated Colony who died since 824. At the present moment there is not a single White Man left out of the regiment and of All the officers who came from the line in 1824, three Only Are 1� Ftp Captain frasier and he tenants Berwick and Burrows dreadful mortality unequalled Ici any regiment in the . The Tariff. A rep Flat on the tar of made to the legislature of Pennsyl Vania by the Conn Mittee to whom was referred certain resolutions of the state of Mississippi has. The Quot following Resolution appended which was adopted with Only one dissenting vote Quot that the Tariff of 1828 accords with the spirit of the Constitution of the United states and maintains the True principles of Protection to the Industry of the country against foreign policy and legislation. A report has also been made to the legislature of Georgia that concludes with the following Resolution resolved by the state of Georgia in general a Assembly met. That our senators be instructed acid our representatives requested to use their Best efforts and their warmest co operation in obtaining a total repeal of the Tariff act of 1828.&Quot a report has also been made to and adopted by the legislature of s. Carolina that insists on a repeal of the Tariff Laws and an abandonment of the principle of them. Whether any modification of the Tariff Laws with a View to Render the m what they were apparently intended to be for the solid Protection of the Domestic Industry shall be made or rot we cannot determine but this is a it by Clear to us that the principle of these Laws will be entirely and triumphantly sustained if . British travellers. We have a nother specimen says the Boston courier of the decency of these Gentry in the person of John Mactaggart who has published his journal of a three year s residence in Canada and the United states. We must make room for a few graphic passages from or. Mactaggart s books. A the genuine English language is vanished from the United states. One of their members of Congress along mme ago proposed an act for doing a Way with it which was then Lau Glied at but now it is going into effect without being passed or enforced a voluntary act of the people. In the course of a Century the English will no t understand the twentieth part that will he spoken in the United slates. Quot a Luthir g like solid learning is known he orig the americans. The arts and sciences Are skimmed. Men of common sense and shrewdness arise among them occasionally. Any thing that smacks of delicacy of taste refinement of feeling amp c. Is utterly despised. Quot on coming to one of their taverns it is in vain to ask for any thing to eat or drink if you get any answer at All but most Likely you will get none it will be quite evasive and Thomas Kino Carroll Baa been e. Tested by the legislature of Maryland hive nor of that state by a majority of 7 votes Over the present gov.

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