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Forest Hills Journal (Newspaper) - April 29, 1975, Cincinnati, Ohio1#0% coverage of Anderson township a it. Washington a Newtown a California by . Mail 54 Batavia Pike Cincinnati Ohio 45244 am la vol. 14 no. 50tuesday, april 29, 1975 single copy 15 All part of the Celebration Council committee studies Spud overlay opponents voice objections at hearing by Diane Dube Cincinnati the Urban development planning zoning and housing committee will take up the request for a Spud overlay on Wayside Avenue at its meeting today tuesday at 3 . In Council Chambers. City Council referred the matter to committee last week after a three hour Public hearing the hearing is to be continued today with the proponents for the Spud overlay completing their presen tation. Council hears pro con of Spud overlay the Advance of the minute men on the old North Bridge at Concord was reenacted at Cherry Grove Plaza presented by the Anderson township sons of the inheritance of the american revolution. The drummer always led the minutemen into Battle said a group spokesperson. A Large crowd was on hand to see the enactment. Both opponents and proponents testified at last week s Public hearing before City Council on the proposed Spud overlay on Wayside Avenue. Soil and sewer problems were the dominant objections raised by the opponents. Due to the late hour proponents opponents testify. Land is improperly zoned to begin with the Wayside Salem residents association was expected to file an application for a zone change to r-1a late last week. That would require a minimum 20,000 Square feet per lot rather than the City a attempt to control certain things. The density was originally proposed at 275 the planning commission brought it Down to 225, but Luken charged that a we done to know How Many it will be determined by the Only gave a partial presentation the remainder is to presented a today a committee hearing the following two articles summarize the testimony Given by the two sides. Proponents testify. Tot Rainer incan inc a u 1 current 10.000 Square feet in not by he Quot one resident of Wayside col. Pit Scarim. British commander of the american revolution walks away after having warned the minute men not to fight. This was part of the enactment of the Battle at Lexington. It was held earlier the same Day at Beech Moni mall parking lot. Same group put this on in Observance of the american Bicentennial. Newtown sewer construction expected this fall Newtown by about july 1 bids for this villages $1 million sanitary sewer system will be opened. Construction is scheduled to begin this fall. Engineers for the Village wide project told Council plans have been approved by the Dayton office of the Ohio environmental Protection Agency �0epa and Are now at the Agency a Columbus office for a routine final approval. William Clark of the engineering firm of Krai Zepf Freitag and associates gave the Village father the news. Construction has waited for More than a year for approval from the metropolitan sewer District mid and Osepa. Proposed system is being funded by a loan and a Grant totalling $773,000 from Federal dept of housing and Urban development Hud. Village will pay $127,000 for the Tapir Cost and will seek and additional Hud Grant under the urgent need fund to cover the remaining Cost. Homeowners who paid the tap in fee in Advance were charged $250, officials said. Those who pay now will be charged $300 and anyone waiting until after construction is underway will have to pay $350, it was said. Additional costs to homeowners will be for individual hookups. Clark said. Homeowners can expect monthly water Bills to double in Cost he added. A formula for costs to industries and businesses is still to be determined he said. Therl zoning Wayside Avenue itself is narrow with Sharp bends Preston Simpson president of the association told Council. In spots Only one car can pass at a time. The Road is a impossible to Widen one witness testified inviting Council to take a trip Down the Road. The soil is highly susceptible to erosion Simpson said referring to a preliminary study conducted by a civil Engineer with a soils testing company. There is no body to the soil the slopes Are not stable and the soil is porous in areas according to the study Simpson added. The development would provide a lot of run off area. Cutting into the soil to Lay sewer lines is a asking for the planning commission had requested collection basins but Simpson was sceptical about those. The Spud ordinance itself is very general according to association counsel Thomas Luken. There Are no guarantees it will be delivered the Way it is discussed. He gave a scenario that ended with the City taken to court and the court striking Down the Walter Laufer testified that the Road is winding and Hilly with Steep shoulders and a a congested bad area. A Joan Blau of Wayside near Sutton asked Council to take into account the feelings of the persons who live there they want to retain the a a Fly Vor of the neighbourhood a which is unique to the area mrs. Harry Wilson Salem Hills Lane expressed concern Over the stability of the gound. The retaining Wall on their property slipped and the driveway cracked but the ground has been stabilized a at considerable expense a she Seid. A Bulldozer in the Valley could cause the to shift again. Mrs. Wilson noted that damage to shifting soil May not show for years. Cliff Pfirrman of the Salem Sutton association said he Felt the planning commission had not Given serious consideration to the objections because of what seemed to. Be their a overriding desire to try the Spud overlay a he called it an a apartment Complex in a modern style that would be out of place in the neighbourhood. Attorney Vincent Beck Man conducted the presentation for the a opponents of the Spud overlay. In addition to the witnesses who testified last week five others will make presentations at today s meeting Warren Callister architect Wayne Schuler civil Engineer James Hough soils Engineer Edward Mcbride marketing consultant and Thomas Johnson associate management corporation which specializes in managing Homeowner associations. The proposal Beckman began is both a exciting and imaginative and will be a a credit and asset to the the condominium concept does Appeal to homeowners he said. Beckman said he realized there were still questions to be answered but noted that not All the residents in the area were opposed to the project. He named three families with property near the development who had written letters in favor of the project. Following is a summary of the presentation made at last weeks Council meeting. Developer Anthony Bruno brought councils attention to a portfolio he had provided each of them. It covers the site the Market land planning architectural design and the alternative As Well As Community concerns. Letters from construction design service inc. Concerning water sanitary sewer storm drainage area land use and traffic counts. It items in the portfolio have previously been discussed a the Royal Oak photos circulated were of the part of the project designed and operated As rental units Bruno said not of the condominium part. He noted that Only eight of the 51 units were still for Sale. Bruno said the Spud overlay would not change the Dens Tor usage of the land Only How the Homes Are arranged on the site. The Developer called it an a honest and realistic proposal and said the company stands on its record. Warren Callister architect said they consider the character and Quality of a Community before designing a project. The project is a clustering of families a Community of people. The land will not be graded at All and there will be single family detached units he said. Callister stressed the importance of amenities that a hold Down the sense of the the plan looks denser than the site he noted the project is developing in a a Heartfelt Callister said they Are concerned with the Resolution of All the problems and that he would e the architect for the project. The rest of the proponents presentation will be made at today a committee hearing. Talks continue on Glade sidewalks by Diane Dube discussion of a proposal for sidewalks on Glade Avenue will be continued at the May 5 meeting of the it. Washington civic club. An estimated 75 people attended a meeting last week with City engineers Joe Bischoff and Jim Fry. The preliminary plan that was presented to the residents was soundly rejected. The plan called for a four foot wide Concrete Walkway at Street level along the Northside of Glade Avenue from Burney to Beacon and along the Southside of Glade from Beacon to Sutton. The engineers had made their study of Glade at the request of residents on the Street. Residents had sent a petition to City Hall requesting several improvements on Glade to make it a safer thoroughfare for children walking to school. At their request a no thru truck Street signs were posted and the police have made some efforts of Speed control on the Street according to a memo from Tom Young City traffic Engineer last january. The request for sidewalks was studied and a preliminary plan presented at a meeting with area residents last week. The plan was their a preliminary thinking the engineers told the group a plan for discussion with no their thoughts on financing which were also tentative were also rejected. Financing was based on the municipal code abutting owners would pay for the Cost of the walk itself estimated $5 per Linial foot. The abutting owner is responsible for construction maintenance and repair of the sidewalk in front of her or his Home. The City would pay for the easements right of Way acquisition sodding and fill. At today a costs the 4000 foot Long sidewalk would Cost $20,000 City expenses could total anywhere from $25,000 to $50,000. The engineers stressed that they have made no recommendation and will not make one until the Community agrees on a proposal and method of financing. Only then will a proposal be presented to City Council which will make the final decision on the project. The engineers presented their proposal in a Multi coloured drawing. Also they left a Street diagram so that the residents could prepare their own proposal. The plan proposed was designed to save the Large Trees Fry explained to the group. Consequently it weaves across the right of Way in spots. The sidewalk would not affect the Width of the Street at All nor would it alter the drainage ditches. The proposal was designed to keep costs at a minimum Bischoff said noting that there Are walks such As the one proposed in other parts of the City. They do provide safety he added. The objections the people at the meeting divided up into three Basic categories those who did no to want anything done to the Street those who wanted the City to do something and those who wanted a major Street improvement including curbing and Drain modifications. One resident asked the number of injuries that had occurred on Glade. He maintained there Wasny to that great a safety Hazard. Several older women said they walk along the Street All the time with no problem. Another woman suggested that children be taught safety rules and not be allowed to walk Down the Center of the Street. A children wont walk on v cd amp a rates Glade topics at civic club cd amp e rate increases and sidewalks on Glade Avenue will be discussed at the next meeting of the it. Washington civic club. Jack Sandman Community relations officer at the Batavia cd amp e office is expected to attend the meeting to explain the necessity of the increases. Meeting is May 5 at 7 30 . At the it. Washington building and loan company. Sidewalks they go in the ditches a one said a so Why worry about sidewalks a an improved Street would Only attract More motorists one resident pointed out. A a it a a Beautiful Rural Street and id like to leave it that Way a another resident said. One Glade Avenue resident suggested the City install 4-Way Stop signs to slow traffic Down. He said the plan presented a does no to solve a things because people get injured crossing the Street not walking along it. A show of hands indicated that about 60 per cent of those attending the meeting were satisfied with the Way things Are. A couple of people indicated that they liked the plan presented a a we la take anything a one commented. Everybody else did not like the plan about half the people there said they were willing to meet and discuss the problem of Glade. One resident in favor of sidewalks argued that there Are Over 265 children living on Glade and on the no outlet Street off Glade. They travel Glade to attend both Public and parochial schools. Because of the Lack of sidewalks they Are forced into the ditches to walk. Consequently Many parents will not inside the journal Coupon Days Are Here again for the area Money savers. This time there is More variety than Ever before. On the journal Coupon Page Page 17, is an and that features coupons for to guide Flicker ladies safety Shaver Personna double ii and Campbell s Tomato soup. These coupons Are found Only in the journal. Other valuable coupons Are Good for bargains at Wendy s hamburgers Batavia Speed Ueen laundromat Cincinnati vacuum Center drover Steakhouse Martin floors inc., clip amp snip grooming Salon and Steamer. Turn to Page 17 and Start snipping. And Start saving business 4 Harvey 14 classified ii 19 Public forum 4 editorial 4 Smalley 4 Foley 20 weightings 4 Forest h ills journal april 29, 1975. Published weekly on tuesdays at 564 by Tavia Pike Cincinnati Ohio 45244. Controlled circulation postage paid at Cincinnati Ohio. Permit their children to walk to school. Traffic has increased because of the no outlet streets built off Glade and the numerous apartment units built at the four intersecting streets. Also she noted Glade is a metro 24 bus route and a metro school route. The walkways will serve the entire Community she added. Another resident said she was willing to pay the assessment for child safety reasons. The majority objected that the proposed plan did a absolutely nothing a calling it a a makeshift sidewalk that does no to amount to �?o1 want something done to that ditch a several residents said referring to the ditches that run along the Side of the Road. Others pointed out that buses and garbage trucks Cave in the Street time and time again they were asking for a major Street improvement. Financing was also a major objection. Those who were to be assessed Felt that it was unfair that they should pay for something that Benefit others As Well. One resident reported that the City does not always assess abutting owners for Street and sidewalk installation. She cited Campus Lane Corbley and continued to Page 16 Ann Burrows Heath Newtown civic league Newtown mrs. Larry Ann Burrows is the new president of the greater Newtown civic league. Other officers Are Charles Messmer. Vice president mrs. Lon Janet Kaylor Secretary and mrs. James Lola Watkins treasurer. Three year Board member is Lon Kaylor. Continuing Are mrs. Garrett Molly Bowen two year Board member and mrs. William f. Darlene Judd one year Board member. The league recently gave $350 to William Meyers principal at Newtown school for use in the saturday recreation program and for the proposed summer recreation program. The league is coordinating the villages memorial Day Parade to be May 26. On the committee Are Betty Bowen Patricia Bray Janet Kaylor Jeanne Kline Rosemary Zink and Ann Burrows. Groups wishing to participate in the Parade May Call mrs. Burrows 561-5298. After the committee reviews the Spud overlay application and makes a recommendation the matter will be returned to Council for its final vote. A simple majority is needed to approve or reject the planning commission recommendation. Council began the Public hearing with a report from the planning commission Given by Herb Stevens director. The commission approved with Spud overlay and listed guidelines for roadways open space buildings storm sewers soils and erosion prevention opponents a of the zone modification were then allowed to make their presentation. Members and representatives of the Wayside Salem area residents association spoke and answered questions from the members of Council. Almost All of the people who filled Council Chambers were opposed to the Spud overlay which would allow for clusters of housing units rather than a conventional subdivision layout. Proponents of the Spud overlay request also had their turn at the podium beginning nearly two hours after the Start of the hearing. At the end of the third hour proponents and Council members agreed to continue the hearing at today a committee meeting see related articles for testimony summaries members of Council interrupted the witnesses to ask questions on certain matters and comment on items presented. My recollection of the Resolution concerning housing is that the Community is to have participation in development in the Community. Council member Guy Guckenberger said. He asked if a Community plan had been developed. Herb Stevens said it. Washington is a a Way Down the priority list for working with communities. There was some talk about a previous Spud overlay request off Salem which had been turned Down. Stevens said that request was turned Down because of the plan Council member Charles Taft commented that the previous plan had no Protection Between houses bad visibility to enter Salem and no foliage Between structures and Street a not at All like Council member James Cissell countered that Wayside itself has 90 degree angles. The Basic question Cissell continued is whether the motivation is for the Basic concept of Spud or to increase the density. One question yet to be answered to the satisfaction of the Council members is How Many units could be built on the property in conventional manner. The property is graded dropping 200 feet to the Little Miami River. The developers Are expected to present a plan for conventional use they had considered at today a committee meeting. There were also several questions As to whether the architect who did the preliminary drawings would indeed be the same one to design the finished product. Architect Warren Callister put that question to rest with his affirmative answer. Many questions dealt with the soil and erosion. Council member Taft noted the objection of residents whose property backed on to the property in question. Theja Are concerned that the weight of the Spud development would effect their Homes at the Bottom of the Valley. Stevens answered that any sliding would go into the Valley and the Homes Are up the Hill on the other Side of the Valley. Taft jokingly said that he supposed a Case could be made that the dirt in the Valley would protect the residents Hills from sliding. Stevens said there would be no dumping on the top of the Hill nor cutting from the Bottom of the Hill. A system to control the downhill Speed of the discharge run off water would have to be developed Stevens said. Taft said he Hadnot heard the argument about the a a ewer continued to Page 16 mass transit Public hearings set two meetings in the journal area have been scheduled by the Ohio Kentucky Indiana regional Council of governments concerning mass transit. The meetings will include a Brief presentation of future mass transit alternatives in addition to the automobile. Questions by citizens and preferences of citizens will be solicited. The alternatives to be presented will Range from the possibility of doing nothing or merely expanding the present bus service to four preliminary alternatives on exclusive guide Way and bus Way. The Milford area chamber of Commerce will sponsor the first area meeting on May 12 at 7 30 . At the Clermont National Bank 1-275 and or 28 in Milford. The Anderson township planning and zoning commission will sponsor the second meeting for citizens from new Richmond Batavia Newtown it. Washington California and Anderson township this in meeting will be May 19 at 7 30 . At the Beechmont firehouse 7954 Beech Mont Avenue. A it is important that citizens come to these meetings a a source at Oki said. A this is Only the beginning. In this first planning stage specific routes will not be considered. The decision that will be made by the Oki mass transit advisory committee after these meetings will result in the recommendation of three types of mass transit to study in greater detail. Additional Community meetings will
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