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Courier (Newspaper) - March 11, 1809, London, Middlesex ~ Ir JiWEHMli PARLIAMENT. ~^ 'hoUSF. OP'LORDS Fainiv. March Jrt, he t^i�TrWaMyetoSp.m! a.�J PanuRnl, whirl, had Ucru laid 00 U'ftial'l'- ^y^mM^s\wAitm u, \we .aid, th.u docn�irti�.w'?^*�M� cke,.wns,2i ; j,r�*OW w  r jjjg service. It. *>:uld ai>prar one i r'JI^^Vifflf^ljnf^^'*!"'''^ ^ i ^f''-ki�ftlir�>*t��*'�69. Tlie amount pn.d jjcr man a.thjr^^iime.oa House (o a Oivisiun upua the aniuuUiuuot, while he shodld wish to preserve llie previaiis part of the Mtiginal motion. In that House he was confuien' there was no indifiilnal who afUink-d the pendiitt; inquiry with more reluctance than he did. It was impossible for him to conceal his apprehensions that the result of this inquiry would he of more detriment As he entertained no wish for the same prolongation of debate as on the former nighls, he should not add to thv> am|)le discussion which had already taken"place on the gc- u^ainst tiie ni!>rali of Uie country. i:fore*c moveJlh&t MWClrdi*flRh'^^I'�y'*b5i��8df�r. calling over the HoiW,-'^*****!*****^*'''^^^ ttat (he^opinioD .en-(g^e^�^|i;^ltalt*eil*fcalw respecting the con.: diiet*r4lie'Duk�!*of'!Yor}t! ^^odW-^not Ac conclud-^^Ijllj^^ghtf'al*^'*�^l^*''isfe; would -110t-sit to- oier'^h' MoDdayv.d�4virt|tnfirst "movfd, -that the Hwft W its risM�� Jdo ?a�l.i�f>s|k>6e (rotn the Members' iraUcryi��He-siriil-hff would ftirbear following up theiiolic* he liatJgivwuf dividing the House on (he(Silicas he would Hot wish to trouble the IlobJe, Jior^ije'trlmble-in a quarter, whsch he toolinut,: accoTdlnfi To Prfrliamcniary usage,wlLh proprittvname, (alluding tb-the Gentlemen in the gjllery).'^'Th^re bad ficen two nigh(s already of sfle(W�irelong5ittingsOnturs who mudcbuch ^Irccehcs. ' *h�CltAN.' of 4he EXCIIlCQUKn,, said, he wtsltedili* HoQse :not tu tm�]gine^ in c(inseqnentne form, and that the ilouse would |rtfettii(H� ftirrof hi&wvver Geutlvirten may diiiVr a�'(dthesiihsfAiioe�n Mhich (he sense of th� House lailj^tbe Ukej�. if the form wa� agreed upon, it WMU cO(viidcra^ijr.i�rruw tbc discussion, and Ite ^Mld*>have no' objeS^on lo .srt as lon^ as his Jf^A Friend proposed, if that couUl be recti H^nn'. ; � .i" FOLKSIONR said, it was by no means "Kstitcjition to iR9inua(e that any nndorstaudin^ 'tell 14fcen place ftttfthe subject. �' '�'%t�TftSot� was-then put and airreed to, anclthe .�TWc-4ass'ordcred^tO'be ciMedover on .Monday ^ftlii^W. W'YN'XE'^eferred his r,()iion respect, -^g tbtf hskc of-York's �letd.r sine die., and liis ^�i(J�'respecting;Gen. Glavering, which stood f�>'d. grant him its indtilgrnce, while he _�*ok?tl� liberty of staling, what to himseemed the 'I'est oift4ps,i^.p5Bgt^jing beadoptfed �n the pre. ^,JJ^''�e his Ma-^;^'*?'�>�frc5s I'is surprise at the extra-ordinary groun.^s. whirl! some Gt-ivtlcmen had adduced for ihe invalidatijjn of evidence, liecause soma hid IJcen prnr*re was truth in any because some parts werf-false? W..>uld it not be more consonant wilii reason and justice to separate (he truth from the falsehood, and act upon that scjiaration in the conclusion which would be drawn ? When a va-rifcty of facu were found to be substantiated, would any one say that they should not be taken into consideration ?, Some points had been proved So strbnglj', a� i�l)e oftt of the reach of contraction. TKesej he conceived, were points which fully estsblishiBd the connexion of corrupt practices betwcich Ker aiid the Royal I'er-oiiajje con-cerncd. As to tKl: attitnpt of invali laiing Miss Taylor's testimony, was convinced it was un-succesful. Cireninsiartces thvmsclTes bore intrrnal cvi-lcnce with ;hem. MissTa.)lor stated what she knew, artil l-e believed that ht-rstatenieot of a conversation befxvien his Royal Itigliniss and Mrs. (.'larke tended "tranjjly (o involve the former in coiisiderabh- sii'piciun. )f she did not state more, which, from (hi: degree of intimacy betwedn' Alr.-sj ded he (rustetl^froni a It f o" the iiire and hoOvSlsource. �38.. ly no Clark* and hi r, it was contended shemigftfj was that any reason why her verariiy iu what �hc disclosed should be qiiestitrocd ? '1 heolijusiiouv raised against the depositions of tiiis witness he con-sitferetl to be extremely weak. He would say of I (he note, which liar! tieen termetl a mysterious oiif, that (ohiiii it appeared athiivgquite unintelligible; He considered ii to be a fabricate] oiie,ind sent by Mrs. Clarke to Tonyn as ih'j Duke':), Twnyfl being wholly iinacqHainted with the ha*d.writing of his Royal IJi-huess the Duke of York. He be. l.evid farther, that Sanden wai the bearer of that note. It was not |:crfe(.tty clear fo him, t� .Ghicf tod Mrs., ''Glprheon the communi(� was- not; only;the l^bifttliaa of (be eoHtitry's Ubi-xJies,> entertain any ^deobti oif tftc public J(Ca:ndal which bad been giten'by the. (SdnducC of hisflioyal Ilighhesa I Were tht pfesent Mie^niissed -�ithQati:.i(9 merit(^d .^onODetft, he should say there were just reasons for inveighing versation, (hat his views of the siihjsct were similar to those of many of Ihs friends, I!e cnn-clud(-d, by moving an Ainendiaeiit to the fallow, ing effect:- " That an humhle.^ililrcs? be prr.viitrd (n M.ijfMv, ;ic-qu.-iiiit his .Maje ty, lhattlic result .if llint in!|iiiry fcasu con-vicifon, that sucli ciirriipt jirirtirei nnl nbusr; hart untnicj. lionablycxUipd. T� assiue his iVnj.ffy of llic hii+h snd^tiic-(inn which tHey experienced in finliiiR nn i^rniiiids to ch:irrruyii.i)ti, or criminal connivance, in tlruje jtr.icticc? ; but, at the �s:ne time lo observe, tliat while l.ho'liou^c wove anxiov.--lo ito jnsiice t> Ilica.IVsjnlagei which Ifie y\rmj had derived fiimi ihesiiper-iiikMidnilcc of his Ifoyal Jli^'hness, and nnire pariir ularly to the salutary refsulatiiii;'! which he ba'i introduced (r^ome of which wcri; illre�tcd .-ipiiui't tlie very ]>r.irtice'* cuniplalriVd (if), they were ohl:�;ed Co express tUeiropiiiinn to hi� Majcs-t;,, that ahlt^es rtnild ^^a^ccly have exi�ied n the exttut to ivhich tlii'.\ were proved to hnve eiiited, nitlioul excitiiig some si!=pici 111 ia flie tnifi.I of the Commnider in Chief. To submit to his .Majesty, thai, if even that circninstance were Uft out of tiie c �I'.'-iJeratioii, tUeir opinion was, Ihc Coninia:;d of the Armv could no longer >ilh pro|H-i�ty or prudfiire reai.iin in the Isaiids of hi� lioxal Hijiliness; the j reeei.t inquiry havioj naveih'd a course of conduct lemliiijc to ' set the worti example; in the hi?he.-t ticjcree inj;ir;"ii-- to the 1 caiKe of ui'ir.iU and re'iiion ; a'ld wliirli. if not disrounle-I n.iiieed, nv-i-t iiij-ire linire sonrcis oi"the ir.iuquilliiy .iiid hnp-piiit;-.s o! ille co'Uitr;.." Mr. VOiJKM expressed his saii-jfaclion, that among Ihe M'Mu'oer.s of ilie House there were so many, who, fr> m iheir .^iiuation in the country as Magistrates and Grand .Iiinir, were familiar witii ih'-' riiWs of eviilence, ami would feel the fjrce of the ob^ervuiions which he thought it his duty to ni.ike.-Adverting to a remirk from the Hsi.>n oiiijiiint-ed, he declared his persuasion, that allhotieh that il tuse was the virmal repre-enlative of the peen afldiiced ? The- (triucipal witncsA was Mr-. Clarke: ond he confe.�sed that he Of Id gi�e no credit to that p^irt of her teitimjny which aflected the i3uke of York, untcss when it was corroborated by otijcr evidence. There was oae circumstance relating to Mrs. Clarke, which had tio� beeu hitherto to ;-it had gone lo the public, that Mrs. Clarke was a married woman, who having been debauched by the Duke of Yorkj and seduced froirt (he course o^ virtue, live i with hinvfor a certain time, and that be thea'abandon* rd hei:. What was the fact ? It bad been distinct* ly stated in evidence, thitt Mrs. Clarke was ycrjr intimately acquainted with Mr. Ogilvte, an Army Agent, before she resided in Gloucester.plaee.- She bad been examined on Ogilvie's coouni^sioa and bankruptcy, ami hor answers shewed, that if she did not live with Mr. OgiJviV, fae lived with \nT. Considering her siibsqticnt c.>iiu::i.-t, he Bad not the lea^t doubt that Mis. Clarke came to the IJ.ike of York, completely iti':truct(.>d in all Ihr^ my>ieriiSof army brokerajic. When Mrs. Clarke wa5 ask'd on her c.xlininatiun, what could iiidaeiy when the latter live,! wiih Mr. Kills, but she never recollected hei* going by the name of Farqiihar. He put it lo the cornmon sense of the Mouse w hcther she Could po-*-sibly b.- i-'norant of t!.^- i irriiinsiance. When Ihis fircumstdiice was considi red-when Miss Taylor's iitiniacy with Mrs. Clarke w:is consHlered-and when the defect of her memory on every other po lit �as considered, he contended tbtat no weight dOuld attach to Miss 'J'a) lor's (eFtiinony. lint brk at'iiinst Col. French auci his 'Wwsuwd f'whatsit.'wai trngageftn*^ vw^^ '^MlWng which, h* ? .fhlv wa� i � to^fctnena the ;kmehMemv - ��^'*^JSonB.^ u end to it. On some such remark he had little doub' that (he oiher circumstances wfrc ingrafted,- He knew that Mrs, Clarke was perfectly eqital to theinven-tion of these tircumstancfs, and he did not know thit Miss Taylor was not equal to declare them wr^icn invented. As lo the case of Major Tcjnyu, j (he only circumstance that coonccted hi� Royaf Highness wi h it vyas the note. ' On (he (ace of it it was doul^tful, whelhv'r that note was wriUen by the Duk� of York or not, and it could not be ad-milted as evidence of bis knowledge of ti.o tranS' action to which it referred. No one could doubt from (he abondoned character of Mu. Clarke, that she would not hesitate to forge a. note for the purpose of forwarding her objects. It- had, beert proved that she possessed great facility in (he imitation of hand-writing. The character of her Qwn hatid.wilting had some resemblance to that of his Royal "Highness the Diike of .Yark, Ooeof.the wituessiLS, an iiidividual .toavcrsant with hjfndl-wriiing, had declared that oti-a second, ius^icciiun he was by no mc^ns satis&cd that the - nutji in qifestion was not ajjforgary. Mrs. Clarke Ij|m1 an name of Clarke,-with whom he contitiued con- '; rtW, ftight refer to '?^\i^J'^'-^ff'*^^ rSed for three'year,, during which period ^I^S^^ll'iit. "khut I� ao .nqu.^^^^^^ .- ^, f ^'as" to inflict such a se�erepuul8h^nt)�S:it^pitj* 'posed,' it tfas mo>f essential- that �=ix9|riinydi?ctl. ^nfafy evidence should be zilmHtf%JI^ zif^fiTu iiQity 'o^ which? was not |(:oa^ple(|^|^gf|flfa!^edi A'dierllTig to the cdseof Ottef, ht^imfrcdithat this suljjeet had beiiaso9axeas(a^\jglimV�4i1mi*fi 'Uigbt Hob. Oei�lh�H3i SWlt3*j�l^