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Cincinnati Commercial (Newspaper) - September 10, 1868, Cincinnati, Ohio2 the Cincinnati commercial. Thursday. September 10, 1868-triple interview with Thiers. Translated for the Cincinnati commercial from the International Magazine the Back which had driven me through a Large part of the City of Paris stopped in a rather quiet Street and in front of a very Tine House which had it been situated in another capital might have been called a Palace. The Driver jumped from his Box opened the door of the Hack and said to me a this sir is the place St. George and Here is m. Thierse i alighted and As i paid the Driver i asked him a do Yoti know m. Thiers a a i do sir a he replied. A in 1863 i cast my first vote for him. I am one of his Tho repossessing Young Frenchman uttered these words so proudly that i said to myself a these parisian plebeians Are assuredly the most intelligent of their class on the european continent. Would a German or an italian Vetturini have Given me such an answer a i gave film a much handsomer Pou Boire than he would have got had he not informed me that he cast his first vote for Thiers and Felt very proud of it. 1 then mounted the Broad Marble door Steps and rang Tho Bell. Before my kind readers however follow me into the House i will briefly Relato to Thorn How i a Humble German private Tutor came to pay a visit to the illustrious French historian statesman and orator. I had gone to Paris above All things for the purpose of examining some old historical documents at the Bibliog Cheque Imperial and my Good Star Hud brought me Here in Contact with the eminent and Noble Michelet one of the most amiable gentlemen i Ever fell in with in my life. During the repeated conversations which i had with him i had been so fortunate As to Ruder him some Aid which he was kind enough to pronounce valuable and important with reference to certain episodes of the Cam Palons Between Franco and Germany which be had treated in the forthcoming volume of his history of France and in return for this slight service to had placed me under a thousand obligations invited me several times to his House introduced to to his amiable wife and made my sojourn in Paris by far More pleasant and profitable to me than it would have been under different circumstances. One Day when we were conversing about the modern French historians the name of Adolphe Thiers was mentioned and i expressed my regret at the fact that m. Thiers although he evidently desired in his history of the consulate and Empire to do Justice to the adversaries of his country had in a great Many cases if not exactly misrepresented Tho aspirations and desires of the germans at All events failed to attach due importance to them. In addition i stated that i thought it strange that the great historian did not extend the investigations he made during his repeated journeys to Germany to make himself acquainted with the Topography of Tho Battle Fields of Napoleons wars by consulting those eminent German historians who paid special attention to the study of that period. Michelet smiled. A Well a he said a i am convinced he conversed with every German historian whom he inet. But his mind is rather autocratic. It is Verajr patient and careful in examining a question but it relies very strongly on its penetration and Sticks with extraordinary obstinacy to the conclusions to which it Lias once come. Tho consciousness of his superiority which never leaves Thiers makes it a rather arduous task for any body to satisfy him that any of his assertions and views Are wrong. Colonel Charras could never convince him that to was mistaken in regard to several important features of the Battle of Waterloo. By the Way a said m. Michelet a would you like to form the acquaintance of m. Thiers a a it would afford Rue a Groat Deal of pleasure to do so but in what Way am i to obtain an introduction to him a a that would not to so very difficult my Friend. I believe i can manage that very Well. I am a Friend of m. Thiers although we have oftentimes differed during the past thirty years in regard to political As Well As historical questions. If you desire it i will write to him Aud inquire if to will receive i accepted the offer with Heartfelt pleasure and when i saw Michelet two Days after at Tho Imperiale he informed me that to had written to theirs and that Tho latter would receive me after 3 of clock on saturday now let my readers enter the House with Roe. Tho door had opened a minute or two after i had rung the Bell and i stepped into the Large Hall which was Well lighted by a Glass door Aud two Large windows opening upon the court Yard and Garden in Tho rear of the building. An old Gray haired servant stood before me and civilly asked me what i wished. Handing him my card. I said to him a i wish to see m. Thiers is he at Home a. He seemed to hesitate a moment for which to certainly had Good reason inasmuch As Thiers like All eminent men is frequently molested by a great Many Idle and impertinent intruders but i quickly put a Stop to the irresolution of the old servant by telling him that his master knew of my coming and that All he the servant had to do was to take my card to m. Thiers. He left to at once ascended a few Steps in the Back part of the Hall opened a door and disappeared. Now i had a few moments time to glance about Tho Hall which was certainly Worth inspecting. Bix White Marble statues Tho productions of eminent sculptors stood on consoles fastened to the Wall and Large Oil paintings filled the niches Between them. The la go windows opening upon Tho court Yard half failed As they were with Crimson velvet curtains and the Glass doors which partly consisted of Small coloured and very beautifully arranged mosaic panes it shed a very singular Light Over Tho whole Hall and Lent an additional Charm to the statuary. I was just inspecting a Beautiful Battle painting containing in the Corner the inscription a Horace ver Het Piv Urit a Beu Tho old servant came Back Aud requested me to follow him. I ascended with him the Steps in the Back part of the Hall and now caught sight of Tho Broad staircase leading to the upper stories. We did not ascend it however but entered the door of a rear building of Largo dimensions which seemed to have been added to the main building Long after the latter had Boon constructed. I came near uttering a cry of Surprise As i entered the anti Doorn for i thought i wag in a Small Arsenal. Coats of mail old fashioned muskets pistols Battle axes swords sabers and Poniard were tastefully arranged on the w alls and Over the finely carved bookcases in the wide and High room an old i afterwards Learned having bequeathed to m. Thiers this valuable collection of arms which looked a Little strange in the Ante room of an author and academician. However i had no Timo to devote much attention to what i saw in the Ante room for Tho old servant opened another door and calling out my name ushered me into Tho presence of m. Thiers himself i had often before seen pictures of the study which i now entered but none of those engravings Aid Justice to it. It is Niagu Ilcent never respect and i have no doubt that it is the finest room of its kind in the world. Large and High enough for a concert Hail and lit up by five windows it looks More like Tho combined Library Aud Art gallery of a connoisseur and bibliophile endowed with no less taste than wealth to gratify it than like Tho study of a scholar and aussie Mierau. Every Oliero arc to be seen Marble and Bronze statues busts curiosities and All kinds of costly and artistic ornaments. Elegant Book cases filled with thousands of volumes and alternating with Large Oil paintings and splendid Kaut Reid of maps line the Walls. In the Middle of the room extends almost from one end to the other a very Large polished mahogany table or rather stand covered with books pamphlets. Journals and huge portfolios filled with maps and engravings. Three or four divas and a number of easy chairs Are to be seen in various parts of the room Aud attached to the extremity of Tho Long table is a kind of Bureau surmounted by a Large writing desk. The paintings hanging on the Walls Are All of the highest value but mostly productions of co temporary masters who presented them to the eminent historian. There is in m. Thierse House another apartments the so called Art gallery which contains one of the finest private collections of paintings to be found on Tho continent i Ucros famous painting a Thiers addressing the chamber of deputies a covers a Large portion of the rear Wall and it is flanked by full length portraits of King Louis Philippe and the count do mole to the left of the door underneath a Beautiful Battle painting Haug twelve or thirteen autographs of considerable value Auto Eiph letters written by Mirabeau Danton bes Pierre Hollie and Napoleon and All of them handsomely framed. In a very Small Oval Frame to the left of the Entrance hangs a Small Plexco of paper which i took at first for a Bank Bill or Check but a dicta As i Learned afterwards was the Railroad ticket Given to m. Thiers in december 1861, by the police officers at the time when he was so brutally driven out of the country. I was told that m. Thiers never alluded to that gloomy period of his own history m Well As of that of France without getting highly excited and referring to the present Sovereign of France in terms More forcible than elegant. It would take me a Long time to describe All the treasures of Art and literature that Are to he found in m. Thierse study the paintings statues busts autographs &o., to accumulate which an acquaintance of m. Thiers informed i 4 me afterwards Lead Cost their illustrious owner v riot less than three or four Hundred thousand a Siranos. When i gazed upon this Superb room which a Prince might have envied m. Thiers i could not help thinking of the Humble and a pretending Little study of a great Gorman historian Leopold von Ranke whom i had visited but a few weeks ago. I had seen Ndini sitting in that Small room at the narrow desk on which he had written All of his immortal works Aud i thought of the wonderful difference Between that study in the quiet House in Berlin and that in which i found myself now on the place St. George. However i had no time to spare for reflection for scarcely had i entered the room of m. Thiers when the illustrious Man rising from an easy chair at the third window Aud laying aside a Book Camo to meet me with a Quick step. M. Thierse appearance 1 is such As to produce a rather singular impression upon those who have never seen him before. He is seventy one years old and if it were not for his White hairs no Ono would believe that he was Over fifty. His wonderful vigor and activity the quickness of All his movements his full healthy face the Luster of his piercing eyes All this would seem to indicate a Man not yet beyond the limits of Middle age. Nor does he look like a statesman and orator and scholar. On the contrary there is about him such a determined and dry matter of fact air that if i had not known who he was i would have taken him for a judge or an eminent member of the bar. This lawyer like impression which his whole appearance produces is much enhanced by Tho most remarkable feature of his countenance his eyes though they Aro not very Large and half hidden As they Are behind Golden spectacles a have preserved the full Luster of youth am seem to see through All those on whom they Are fixed. As i met the piercing glance of these wonderful eyes i could not help thinking of what is told about the Large and Lustrous Blue eyes of King Frederick the great which Are said to Hay rather confused those on whom they fell. In this Case however the embarrassing impression made upon me by the keen eyes of m. Thiers was not Long in wearing off for nothing could be Moro polite Graceful and reassuring than the manner in which he hid me Welcome and led me to an easy chair asking me to set Down and seating himself close in front of me. Lie sat there however for Only a few minutes he then Rose and walked up and Down in front of to. Or stood still before me thus displaying the same nervous restlessness which characterizes his bearing when he addresses the corps legis Latif or dictates to his private Secretary. After a few conventional phrases had passed Between us m. Thiers inquired what part of Germany i was from and when i replied that i was a native of Thuringia to exclaimed a nah Thuringia i am no stranger to that delightful country. I have twice been All Over it and there have been years of my life when it engrossed my attention a great Deal More than my own country a i believe it was a i said a at the time when you were writing the history of the campaigns of 1800 and 1813.�?T a yes sir 1 studied the Topography of Thuringia with particular care and application in regard to the Campaign of 1800, and All those Points in reference to which the closest study of such maps As i had at my disposal still left doubts in my mind i tried to Clear up and Settle by personal inspection of thou localities. In 1813, and after Ward in 1849, i passed several weeks in Thuringia. To judge from the numerous translations that have appeared in Germany of my a history of the consulate and Empire a you germans i believe have not had Lauch Ault to find w Ith the w Ork in this respect. \ Howis it about Thuringia a a it is no More than just for me to say a i replied a that it is wonderfully Correct in its descriptions of Thuringia scenery. None of our native authors have written accounts of the Jena Campaign that surpass it in this respect. Still i remember having seen two very slight inaccuracies in your narrative of Tho operations preceding the great conflict at Jena and Suerstedt and if you think it sufficiently important i will with your permission state what they m. Thiers fixed his eyes on me searchingly and said that he was very anxious to hear All about it. I informed him then that i was born in the Vicinity of Saalfeld and was in consequence perfectly familiar with All the roads and by paths in the surroundings of that town and Baa read w Atli Tho liveliest interest his detailed account of the operations preceding the Battle of Saalfeld where the heroic Trinco Louis Ferdinand had met with such a premature end. All to had written about this subject was perfectly Correct except what he had said about some of the movements which the troops of marshal Soult had made on that occasion. As i found that m. Thiers took the liveliest interest in my statement i explained to him at some length what i referred to. He then asked me to follow him to the table where he opened ode Lebenz a Large military Atlas of Germany and after hastily glancing at some of the maps he flu ally pointed his Finger at Saalfeld and its environs Aud exclaimed a you see or. F., that your German geographer does not differ with a Well to is likewise mistaken m. Thiers a i replied. A i have conversed on this very subject with a great Many men who knew As much about the Topography of that country As i do he then stepped with me to one of Buerkel a cry Shaut Relief maps of Central Germany which i found did not differ either with Odeleen or Thiers. I knew however whereof i affirmed and m. Thiers finally accepted what i told him and made a hurried note of it. We then returned to our chairs and while he invited me to be seated to remained standing before me Aud said a such criticisms Are certainly More valuable and pleasant than Tho sweeping accusation preferred against to by some of your German critics who charge my work with exhibiting an undue Bias against the people of a perhaps a i replied a you have not understood exactly what they meant. They did not intend to assert that you Wero unduly prejudiced against the people of Germany but that you did not attach sufficient importance nor give due prominence to certain manifestations of the National spirit and to events which exerted a decisive influence Over Public opinion in Germany in critical periods of Tho great struggle against a a charge who exclaimed a which Cau be no More proved than that to which i referred before. I believe you allude to the great revival of the National spirit in Germany in the year 18131,�?� a i do not allude to that m. Thiers but for example to what Yon say in regard to the execution of Palm the German bookseller at �?o1 say that the execution of that Man created a great Sousa Ion in Germany and increased very materially the exasperation of the people against a Pardon me for venturing the remark that that is rather under rating Tho importance of that event. The execution of Palm the bookseller tilled the whole people with such implacable hatred of Napoleon that reconciliation was thenceforth utterly impossible. It gave Rise to a sudden revival of Public opinion and Toa general realization by the exasperated people of Tho degradation to which Germany had been reduced. Palm was Jiuu Ocenta a a Napoleon ordered his execution a said m. Thiers interrupting me a for the purpose of intimidating his enemies among the Middle classes of the people of Germany. It was a most deplorable misstep a grievous Blunder. How singular it is a lie added pacing up and Down before me a that the Power to commit such acts of cruelty so often incites princes to resort to them. It is said that certain magistrates whom the Law authorizes to use harsh measures for the purpose of wresting confessions from criminals will by and by resort to them without any cause whatever and such is the Case too with the inspectors of prisons who will maltreat the convicts simply because the Law empowers them to do so in certain contingencies. Confer absolute Power of a ruler and you hold out to him a almost irresistible temptation to abuse his authority. Take for example Prince Maximilian in Mexico. A Man of humane and generous tendencies and yet lie did not hesitate to sign and Issue that abominable october decree which gave his enemies a very Good pretext for shooting he then commenced expat rating on the mexican expedition. The Public is familiar with ins opinion about that disastrous Enterprise so that there is no need for me to repeat Here what he said to me about it on this occasion at the same time i forbear to do so because m. Thiers exposed in the most severe terms the shortsightedness and Folly displayed by certain eminent frenchmen in regard to this question and i will mention Here once for All that he seemed to authorize me As will further appear in Tho course of this article to repeat most of the remarks which i now communicate to my readers. To closed his remarks on the mexican expedition by saying he was fearful France had not experienced All the calamitous consequences to which it would give Rise. Quot but a i said a is not this whole mexican affair now dead and buried a a i am not quite sure that it is a replied m. To liners. A is it sure that the people of North America have forgiven and forgotten the conduct of France in regard to this mexican question Aud the attitude which our government assumed toward Thom regarding the struggle Between the North Aud South in the United states it was the worst and most unaccountable Folly on the part of Tho Cabinet of the Tuil eries to commit itself one Way or the other before there w As any certainty As to the Issue of the struggle Aud to Manifest its sympathies so unequivocally in favor of the american slaveholders. I protested against this suicidal policy As soon As its tendencies were first manifested Aud the result has certainly verified All my predictions. A government like ours Wiloh meets with Sash extraordinary Dini outlet in the attempt to form foreign alliances has thus rashly incurred the enmity of a nation which is constantly increasing in Power with the most wonderful rapidity and which has abundantly demonstrated that if need be it can dispose of inexhaustible resources As a military and naval m. Thiers then expressed his regret at the hostility with which to was treated by the German journals. A i am denounced a he exclaimed a was an implacable foe of the people of Germany when the truth is that i am an ardent admirer of its greatness Aud a True Friend of that a you Are opposed to the unification of my country a i remarked. A yes i am a he replied with much emphasis a and i am glad that Vou have alluded to this subject. Tell the people of Germany that i am opposed to the Plau of German unification As it is understood at this juncture not Only because i am a son of France but also because i am a Friend of Germany. German Unity As it is understood at this juncture Means simply the creation of another great military state. The reconstruction of the old Germanio Empire under Tho powerful Aegis of Tho King of Prussia will necessitate the maintenance of an immense military Force not Only in Germany but throughout the other Continental states. Now we have just at this time it be fms to me reached the very limit when the immense standing armies must be reduced Overy where or else Tho Wel fare of the nations their liberties and the interests of civilization and humanity in general will suffer serious detriment. This is the reason a exclaimed m. Thiers warming in his argument a Why i am opposed to this so called idea of nationalities which was brought Forward simply to Render secure Tho throne of a dynasty to which All Europe was averse and which has thus far led Only to convulsions War diminution of Liberty and increase of i stated that taxation in Prussia was not higher at this juncture than it was prior to the Campaign of 1866, and that the people there enjoyed As much Liberty As they did previous to that time. A but turn your eyes toward Italy who exclaimed a much fault has been found with my opposition to its unification but i can Only say god have mercy upon the poor country in its present condition with a bankrupt Treasury Art literature and science languishing More than Ever before and at the end of the Vista a coup d eat and loss of Liberty you mentioned Prussia where you said that taxation is now no higher than it was prior to 1866. The most important Point however is what Are the taxes thus raised spent for Are they spent for the improvement of the condition and for the eur Gigli Tinnent of the people i know sir that even in Prussia notwithstanding tie High reputation of its system of Public instruction Segool teach Era receive such beggarly Balales that i am at a loss to know How they Are to be Able to Livo on them Aux the resources of the state Are but imperfectly Tje Voloyed while four fifths of the Public revenues Are squandered for military purposes a he then adverted to France. It was still worse Here. Every thing for the army nothing for Public instruction almost every Able bodied Man in arms agriculture prostrate and inoes saut Loans and deficits a this state of affairs who cried vehemently a a mud St come to a speedy close or there will to convulsions too terrible to the Only Cabinet which he asserted had claims to the sympathies of enlightened men was that of Vienna. A Baron von Boust a he said emphatically a is a great statesman. Only give him time to master the financial difficulties with which his plan bristle and he will achieve wonders. But for the purpose of re establishing Tho Public credit of Austria and restoring Tho equilibrium of its revenues and expenditures he must reduce the army on a very Large scale. God Grant that the political situation May enable him to do that. I am afraid however storms May break out before Long and frustrate his wishes in this a and then a he added pitting his hand on my Arm a it is inexplicable to the How literary men can be in favor of Tho Extension of Cesar ism if i May Call it so. The most superficial observer Cau not fail to perceive that literature and Art Are prostrate in Western and Central Europe. The decadence of France in this direction is painful to contemplate and i believe Germany is in the same predicament. Our literary decadence in France when compared with the proud position we held in this respect from 1830 to 1848, is simply humiliating. And a he said a when i oppose the consolidation of an immense military Power on the other Side of the Rhine because i know that the realization of that idea will inflict sad blows upon the Best interests of the people and upon Liberty Aud civilization inasmuch As it imposes upon All Powers the duty of maintaining Large standing armies. I am exposed to a storm of fierce obloquy and pronounced a implacable enemy of Germany. Yes sir i am a Sou of France and want to see my country great and respected but i am not so narrow minded As to rest such Hopes and wishes on the calamities and humiliations of other m. Thiers continued for some time yet in the same Strain with As much eloquence and ardor As if he addressed the legislature and not the Humble German who Hung on his words with the closest attention. He paused All of a sudden and after inquiring How Long i would remain in Paris and inviting me very courteously to be present at his next reception he apologized for the necessity under which he was to put an end to the interview. At the door to which he escorted me he said again a Tell your countrymen that i want them to consider me a Friend of i found Tho courteous old servant in the anteroom and two minutes afterwards i walked across the place St. George thinking of what the eminent Man had just said to me. It May be of interest to my readers if i add to this account of my visit to m. Thiers some details concerning his personal habits characteristic traits every Day life it acc. His Mauner in addressing any Ono is very courteous and dignified but at Tho same time somewhat imperious. He seems to think it impossible that any body should be Able to gainsay his words and lie utters his arguments with a certain magisterial expression. Louis Philippe said on one occasion with a merry laugh a whenever i Converse with Thiers i do not know exactly if 1 should not address him with a your majesty a and should not be at All surprised if he should Call and another time when the King had just hold a Cabinet Council and the Queen asked him if the ministers had made addresses Aud if he had replied to them to said a no Machere Thiers spoke and we it is rather difficult to form a Correct idea of the persuasive Powers of m. Thierse eloquence. Few persons Are Able to resist him and even a verbatim report of what he says gives us but a insufficient Conception of his wonderful impressiveness As a speaker. Whether you sympathize with him or not he will most certainly hold you spell bound. Poor Heinrich Heine used to say a a in the chamber of deputies very body admires Guizot a eloquence Aud every body is enchanted with Lamartine a impassioned appeals but let Little Thiers make a speech in favor of the budget Aud even his Ennques will vote for Tho most extravagant bums which he As i said before m. Thiers is wonderfully Strong considering his advanced age and Arsine Houssaye was certainly justified in saying that Thiers was certainly Tho most Youthful old Man in France. People say that he does not like to be called old and that he is even More Dis Elo ased by allusions to his death. It is probably because lie still feels so very Strong that he does not believe that his life is drawing to a close. His Powers As a a workers Are still As extraordinary As Ever. To rises at 6 in the morning and works until noon with an interruption of five or ten minutes at 8, when he breakfasts on an egg and cup of Coffee. At noon he lunches and takes an airing or makes a few Calls. When the legislature is in session he goes to the palais Bourbon at 2, and usually stays there till 6, when he dines. He has a very skillful Cook and his dinner parties Aro praised by All those who Ever partook of his hospitality. After dinner to usually slumbers for an hour or two and visits then one of the Heaters or receives his friends or goes to the salons of the Cream of parisian society. Thiers is a very Rich Man. He owns Sovin Largo houses in Ijarvis a handsome Block in Passy an estate in Touraine and several valuable tracts in Provence. The compensation which he receives for his writings is very Large Tho publishers of his history of the consulate and Empire still paying him fifty thousand francs a year for the privilege of issuing that great work. He patronize the arts liberally and is one of the Best friends Young beginners of Iri Erit have in Paris. His excellent wife dispenses the charities of the House with lavish liberality and it is assuredly very honorable to this distinguished Man that he and his wife Are nowhere More popular Aud beloved than among the poor Aud distressed in his arrondissement. _ with the grecian Bend we Are to have the velocipede in this country which have been so popular in Paris. These velocipede have but two wheels one of which immediately succeeds the other in a straight line. A Saddle is elevated above them and stirrups Are used which by a movement of the feet create a rapid action of Tho apparatus with an Effort far less fatiguing to the a hubs than walking. The Mode of mounting is first to push it accompanying the action by a movement of Tho foot in the left Stirrup and then suddenly to Spring into the Saddle Aud use both stirrups. Fully a week of practice is required As the difficulty to the rider of balancing himself is great. A fall however is without danger As his foot is always near the ground and he has Only to disengage it a moment from the Stirrup to recover himself. The movement of the instrument is very rapid. It can be propelled at the rate of fifteen Miles a hour and races in Paris by Means of it Are very frequent. It is three feet High and nearly seven feet Long. The Oost in Paris ranges from 300 to 00 francs according to tobacco Trade. Annual convention of the Cigar makers International Union. Third Days proceedings. Morning session the convention met at the appointed time yesterday morning�?9 of clock. The Roll was called and All the delegates were present. Or. Blend moved a suspension of the rules to consider the grievances of the Philadelphia Union. Or. Lavine claimed that said Union from Philadelphia had not been recognized by Tho National order. The rules being suspended the committee reported that in november 1867, body of men withdrew from the Union Aud now applied for recognition. They now applied for a charter for a local Union. The report of the committee was Adverse to the application but recommends that the dissenting members be advisor to join Union no. 3, to preserve their reputation As working men. Further debate followed Between messes. Junio Burch and Lavine when the report of the committee was adopted. The committee on credentials then reported. Report adopted. Or. C. G. Cady was then appointed on the committee on credentials in place of or. G. W. Bellmio resigned. A Resolution was presented and adopted thanking or. Junio the sex president for his efforts to induce Congress to abandon the Mode of stamping cigars which was proposed at the last session of that body and which was abandoned through or. Juniors influence. Also recommending that the International association pay Tho expenses incurred by the Syracuse Union in accomplishing that object or. Hully reported on the Kingston conspiracy Case that they have examined the papers relating thereto recommending that each local Union shall assist the Kingston Union to the full extent of their ability. Considerable debate ensued Between messes. Sully Bonn Levine and Moses. A motion that a tax of two dollars be levied on the members of the Union for the support of the Kingston Union was referred Back to the committee. The committee on Constitution asking leave to retire a Resolution was offered that the convention Afi Jour until to Morrow morning at 9 of clock yeas 26, nays 8. An amendment was made to adjourn until 4 p. M. Afternoon session the convention according to the motion adopted at the morning session reassembled at 4 of clock. On motion the Reading of the Secretary a minutes was dispensed with. There was then a great Deal of discussion in relation to the Reading of papers to Tho convention. The committee on petitions to Congress reported Progress and were granted further time. The committee on charges and grievances were also unable to make their report and were granted further time. As there was no other important business to come before the convention a motion was made that the convention adjourn until this a morning at 9 of clock. Tho motion was carried and the convention adjourned to meet As above stated. It is expected that at the session this morning there will be considerable discussion in relation to Tho amendments to the Ball matters. A correspondent sends ust Tho following additional answer to the following conundrum a Why would negroes make better base Ball players than White men because they Are better at the second answer is As follows be Canso in hot we tier they play a stronger game. The a night owls a of the Western Union Telegraph Ofree proceeded a few Days ago to Cleves. Where they played a game of base Ball with the North Bend club of that place. The batting on both bides was very lie Ivy. The rough state of the ground after the previous nights rain prevented very effectual Fielding. We give the score North Bend. O. J. W Al sly r. F.2 j. W. Car p.0 k. B. Hayes o.3 Job Hayes 1. F.1 Jas. Hayes. 2d b.2 Clip Law F.5 Jas. Carlin 1st b.5 Geo. Lewis s. S.5 b. Rice 3d b.4 total .27 so Reese Jim Bay for _ bends. Umpire a. W Warner the third of a Serios of games Between the clippers and Magenta the two rival Junior clubs of Newport came on on monday last. The game was As usual very exciting and close but the Magenta by Good Bat Ting and still better Fielding carried away the Palm of Victory. This is the second game of the series won by the Magenta and Stamps the Magenta the better of the two clubs. We append the store by innings 1. 3. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. R. Night owls. O. R. 6 Jones .4 4 7 Williams a. Of. .3 7 5 Baker a. .1 y 6 7 Scott s. A. .16 5 Korn 2d a. I \ 7 2 Neil . .4 \ 4 2 Spink 1st . .4 \ �?�6 3 Peabody. 3d a. .3 6 4 Gilliland . 3 41 total. .27 49 innings. Magenta .4 clippers.0 6. 7. 8. 9 9 4 0 3�?41 6 11 0 4�?39 base Hall was ant in g than 2 3 3 1 6 1 1 2�?23 0 5 0 5 2 1 0 1�?14 a very close and interesting match game of base Hall was played yesterday Between the laurels and Continentals which resulted in the defeat of the Continentals by two tallies score 39 to 41. . 2. 3/ 4. 5. Laurels. ,.7 6 2 2 8 Continentals.6 i 4 7 1 on saturday last a Matoh game of. Played Between the first nines of Tho Arctic base Ball club of Petersburg Kentucky and the pacifier of rising Sun Indiana of the grounds of the former in Petersburg Aud resulted As follow is innings.1. 2. 3. 4.-5. 67. £rct�c.6 3 8 97 14 9�?56 pacific.2 2 8. 4 1 0 4�?21 a match game of Baso bail was played on saturday last Between the fair count Junior and the Mutual base Ball clubs in which thu former was victorious by a score of 57 to 19. Hanxi Jon o., september 8,1868. To the editor of the Contr Vercial below please find the score of a game of baseball played Between the Loire Star club of Harrison Ohio and the Brookville Bas Ball club at Brookville Indiana on saturday sept Ember 5, 1868 innings. .1. 2. 3, 4. 5. E. 7. 8. 9. Brookville .8 0 5 0 6 2 10 7 11�?49 Lone Star.3 is 10 5 12 4 7 9 15�?80 time of game to to and a half hours. R. P. From the Phil Jei Puiia sunday Mercury of september a e la lowing notice of the proposed Eastern e11 pro Anent club the Cincinnati 11 he Cincinnati club have written that they will soon by on the Road and that they will he pleased to meet their of a. Friends the athletics. To Hope that Blhay will to ave a rousing reception. Let it he the aim of Tho a path so to keep them out of the hands of the Phil Stines. Tie Cincinnati ranks As one of crack organizations of the count re. The players conduct themselves As gentlemen which they Are. Tic by will make a favourable impression and we Trust a t their match., to see a Large turn out of the fair sex. Ladies May safely attend they will hear nothing of Tensive Esaue the lips of a Cinci Natian and there will be no wrap aging about the play. The Cincinnati Are Camet knights As Well As demonstrators of our nit Tiou Al Sharp tricks in playing base Hall Are becoming of tire by too common and we Are glad to show that the heading members of the fraternity can play the game w Ith resorting to improper practices adopt the Rule a to Loso a game rather to win it by dishonourable the following item from the Philadelphia Sanday Mercury is to the Point. Reach who is first referred to the Well known second base of the athletic club is a Christian gentleman. Harry Wright of whom honorable mention is also made in the article is so Well known in our City that compliments seem superfluous in connection with his name. His reputation As a ballplayer and a gentleman is one that All should emulate. I. Reach is a queer old stick but is a honorable Hall pla3rer. In the match last monday Dickey Pearce came at his base at a Amai Hing Pace Al. Had the Hall and touched him the a 1 dropped but Al. Paid no heed to it out claimed the urn ire a attention. Colonel Fitzgerald decided Pearce out. The decision was close hut it was satisfactory to hot i parties. Colonel Fitzgerald knew that Al. Would not take an advantage or claim an unjust decision. So i 1 Pearce. 80 Ucli for playing an honorable game. We have seen a old Nance decide a Man a not out on his base that the Umpire declared out. We Roor a d such an action on the part of Harry Wright recently 1 and that in a very close game what the Union club.�?T1 the Pittsburg Leader u is a the non acceptance a a the Challenge issued by the olympics to the a Leghai in. To play a game for Tho title of champions gives the a title to the olympics. This is unpleasant to the allege a any nine but they should have promptly accepted Tho Challenge and if they had lost the game All would b is e been Well the olympics will do Vitless give them a ame at any time they would hire to regain their b it set associated press tk7�rams. New York sept Mbarr 9.�?the Champion unions of Monis Aua defeat cd the Harlem club yesterday at base Ball by a scor amp of 89 to 5. They play the athletics of Philadelphia on. Monday week the return game to he played at trem it it the week following. Albany septem her 9,-�?the base Hall match Between the nationals of this Dity and the athletics of Philadelphia to Day a As one of the most closely contested 8ea8pn a fhe playing on both sides was very Fine. The athletics w on by a score of 13 to 6. Each club received four Alai Ika. The Kolic it it court yesterday a docket. Charles Contr or exhibiting Gaoing devices fined $200, and required to give Bonds in the sum of $500, As provided in tale Sti tute Sampson Barrett Petit larceny committed to the county jail for ten Days Ellen Wilson. Petit larceny \ fined $25 and costs Ann Ash and disorder in Oom matted to the City prison for thirty Day Thomi s Averitt assault and Battery com muted to the con qty jail for three Mouths and fined and costs w a. Green vagrancy committed to the City prison for to lice months Peter Malloy a Iii our destruction of property committed to Tho co Anty jail for one Dav and Fin $2� and costs Clima. In nth assault and Battery fined $10 and costs Ger har Talf peddling without a License fixed $5 Aud Coats Caroline eve Chart. Daniuk Euless. Committed to Tho City prison for j if Tsen Days. Qaisi do Wisako. Jacob dust Aud John Jack Dis orderly conduct Timothy Sullivan charged with Petit larceny John Doolan peddling without License Michael Williams assault Mathias Loudon and deringer assault and Battery. Cases . Garrison gambling Case continued to the 23d Patriek Flanigan assault and Battery Case continued to the Lluli Jacob deuning abusing family Case continued to september 11 Hail $2001 railway matters. # a a a a. The Cincinnati Connersville Anil Indianapolis Junction Railroad. We Are glad to learn that this Road extending from Hamilton its Junction with Tho Cincinnati Hamilton and Dayton Railroad via Oxford Liberty Indiana Conne Reviue and Rushville to Indianapolis ninety eight Miles is very shortly to be offered for through passenger traffic As it has been for some time already for freight business. After languishing for several years and struggling against Adverse Fortune dragging with faintness and exhaustion nearly it was resuscitated by the application of the a Only remedy a consisting of capital and Enterprise in proper portions administered by an association of substantial business men nearly All citizens of Cincinnati with Lewis Worthington at the head. Under this reorganization and efficient management there have been expended for construction and equipment two million four Hundred thousand dollars and this in less than eighteen months to make it As it will be when finished a first class Road Well appointed and office red As it now is with or. Worthington As its president. From Connersville a Branch of this Road completed via Cambridge City to Newcastle Indiana and from that Point arrangements Are nearly completed for extending it to Muncie and thence to fort Wayne tapping there the Pittsburg fort Way no and Chicago Railroad As mentioned in our Railroad article of yesterday and connecting with the grand rapids Railroad for which purpose mainly fort Wayne is made Tho objective Point. In the completion of this important Road to Indianapolis we have a new and most excellent line Between that thriving City and ours a competing line with the Indianapolis and Cincinnati for the business Between the two cities and Points beyond Aud with a fair Competition the Community is Likely Jio be largely benefited. The Region of country traversed by the c., And i. J. Railroad line is one of the richest and most Fertile in the states of Ohio and Indiana and must furnish a Large local traffic to the . A Man named Andrew Bates was arrested yesterday in Cincinnati upon the charge of stealing a horse from j. S. Gibson of Gratz Owen county Kentucky. The prisoner was brought to Covington by detective Butts and will be taken Back to Owen county. An altercation occurred on the Taylor Mill Road near Independence on sunday last Between two men named Osborn and needing in which the latter was Verv badly beaten. Osborn was arrested and lodged in the jail at Independence. Rev. Win. H. Forsythe an eminent presbyterian minister of Harrison county Kentucky died at his residence near Cynthia a on the 4th inst., in the sixty sixth year of his age. Deceased was a prominent member of the masonic order. A special meeting of the City Council will be held tonight when it is expected the question As to whether the City will pay Mcllvain it Speigel for the water pipe manufactured by them As per order of messes. Shinkle Clarkson and Howe will he finally disposed of. Coun Cilman Patton promises to make some new revelations at this meeting respecting a a four thousand five Hundred dollars fees Cincinnati Council.�?T,. A new and substantial Bridge is being erected Over four mile Creek near its Mouth. It will Cost about $8,000, and when completed will he the finest Structure of the kind in Campbell county. Colonel t. L. Jones. Representative in Congress from the sixth District of Kentucky has just completed a canvass of the District. He considers his renomination by the democratic convention a foregone conclusion. The republicans of Tho District will most Likely nominate W. Root esq., As his opponent. X. Sine our efficient City clerk returned yesterday from a visit to his old Home in new Jersey. Charles Amann who keeps a Coffee House at the Corner of Bellevue and Isabella streets made complaint to the mayor on monday that of saturday night last after the democratic procession Giad passed his place a number of men stoned his House. He could not furnish the names of any of the persons who made Tho assault hut stated to the mayor that councilman Wood sides was to the party. A few nights since at a democratic meeting a Well known citizen of the second Ward recently an aspirant for office was called upon for a speech. The request seems to have taken him by Surprise. He finally arose however and delivered himself As follows a gentlemen i done to know How to make a speech but there is one thing i do know in Mas Good a god did Democrat As any of you 1�?� the speech was Well Railroad horror in England. Terrible details. From the London times August 24. J Tho Abergele Accident will Ever possess a sad memory of its own. There Are events As there Are spectacles both of pleasure and of pain which leave an impression never to be effaced. They form an experience a kind of revelation and do not leave us the same As we were. It May be easy to reason on them and say they Are Only different in degree from things we have seen before. It May be so but trom whatever cause they affect us far Moro profoundly and it is Idle to conceal it. Tho calamity at Abergele is Ono of these occurrences. Dreadful railway accidents have been but too common among us. But whether it be due to the magnitude or to the cruelty of the disaster of thursday it certainly has a horror of its own. Loss of life and bodily injury fall within the Compass of our thoughts but that upward of thirty persons travelling in apparent Security should to suddenly destroyed and Burnt to ashes must be to most of us too much for Complete self control. We Are not supposed to dwell upon its horrors it is in the fact itself that the awfulness of Tho calamity is to be Felt. It gives a startling glimpse of the tremendous farces we handle every Day so lightly and to the Uso of which we Trust ourselves with so Little anxiety. A moments thoughtlessness the snapping of an Inch or two of Iron and we May find ourselves crushed to atoms or devoured by the fury of the most raging fires. Nature it seems does not yield her choicest advantages without proportionate risks. The further we penetrate into her secrets the Moro need we have of caution. It is our penalty for our privileges. But we must not forget what to gain. If rapid travelling and the use of Petroleum have brought this disaster upon us we must remember How Many lives they Bavo saved Aud what benefits they have brought us. We would not Foster any exaggerated sense of alarm and it would certainly appear that the fatality of the Accident As Well As its horror is to be attributed to a perfectly exceptional cause and to circumstances which must be of the utmost rarity. It seems Clear that As a Mere collision the Accident might have been comparatively harmless. The mail was not going at express Speed. The Driver found himself in Good time at Abergele station and was Tor before taking Bis train easily up the incline to Llanddulas. He estimates his Speed at Only thirty Miles an hour and though the counter velocity of the trucks would of course increase the Force of the collision there is other evidence to show that the Mere Shock was not very severe. It is indeed to the fire alone that the fearful effect of the Accident must be ascribed. It was not a Mere collision but a Colliston with Petroleum. The destructive Powers of that compound never received such a frightful illustration. It seems to have swallowed up its unhappy victims in a sea before they had time to move or even speak. The barrels were broken by the Shock the Oil exploded As it came in Contact with the Furnace of the engine and it is believed that the Mere explosion must have suffocated or rendered insensible the occupants of the carriages. It is at All events a thing to be thankful for that to were spared the aggravation of the Lake Shore Accident in America where the unhappy passengers were slowly burned to death within the sight and hearing of those who were at hand. The victims of this disaster have probably suffered Leas than Many who have escaped with life from less dreadful accidents. Whether indeed it has been usual to handle Petroleum with too much Confidence and whether we have been More frequently exposed than we think to such a peril May appear in the course of the inquiry. But after such a terrible example of its Powers no railway company we May be confident will carry such an article affair except under the strictest precautions. While sensible therefore of All the horror of the Accident let us remember that it is to the Petroleum Aud not the collision that it must be ascribed and let us not associate the distressing scene in Abergele Church with the usual perils of the rail. The calamity is so great and the responsibility of All who May be rendered accountable for it is so terrible that we Are reluctant to suggest blame any where until we Are compelled by the results of formal inquiry. It is enough for the present to Point out the circumstances which Call for explanation. The immediate occasion of the Accident was the escape of the trucks from the goods train and if immediate responsibility lies anywhere it must be Here. The Driver of the mail train seems to have acted admirably. The trucks came upon him almost As soon As he caught sight of them yet he had the presence of mind to turn off the steam before he jumped from his engine and though severely wounded he was 011 his legs in a moment endeavouring to assist the passengers and to disconnect the burning carriages from the rest of the Ruiu. But the Mere fact of several trucks from a goods train running Down the line unchecked raises a Strong presumption of carelessness. An accidental break in a train going at full Speed is indeed intelligible but the escape of Loose trucks from a train standing still at a siding ought to be impossible. It appears that there was a break Van at the end of Tho trucks but the guard was not in it and the break was not on. If As is stated it be part of the duty of the guard to leave his a a Post when a portion of the train is being shunted it can Only be said that such a Rule ought to be immediately rescinded but it will still remain for inquiry Why the break was not fixed. These circumstances would raise As we have said a presumption of Jarele Suess in the Case even of an Ordinary goods train but it is incomprehensible it present that trucks containing casks of Petroleum no Bould have been left without a guard at the to of an incline. Whether it proves that the Accident is due to the carelessness of one Man or partly to that and partly to bad arrangements the Public will we think demand from the railway companies some distinct guarantees against similar dangers in the future. Machinery of course May break Down at any time but this apart we do not see that there Are any dangers in railway travelling which foresight and strict rules can not guard against. 80 Long As two trains Are never allowed to be on the same line of rails Between two stations there can be no danger of a collision and if there were always a break Van carrying a guard at the end of a train the rear ought to be As readily stopped As Tho front. These Are precautions we have a right to demand and a company is culpable which omits Thom. Meanwhile we shall await with anxiety the evidence at the inquest. The calamity increases with every fresh intelligence. We first heard of Twenty three then of Twenty eight and now we Are told of More than thirty three victims and perhaps we shall never know its full extent. There is scarcely a letter moreover or an account which fails to add some touch of horror to the scene and it is Only certain that it has in no Way been exaggerated. Let us leave no Means untried to discover its cause. If this be traced to some Accident beyond our control we must submit in humility to a consciousness of the Fea Ful risks which our imperfection entails on us. But if it be due to carelessness or neglect we shall be bound and we shall certainly not fail to make Tho sternest provisions against any such neglect for the future. From the special correspondence of the Londo times Tho train consisted in All of thirteen carriages four of which and a Van had been attached at Chester. These formed the portion of the train nearest to the engine. Next to the guards Van came a composite Carriage made up of first and second class compartments then followed two first class carriages and a amp Hind them a second class and a baggage compartment on the same Frame work. A Post office Van came next then the travelling Post office itself then another Post office Van and lastly the carriages which had come Down from London the guards Van and All the carriages Down to and no ending the Post office Van were consumed As Well As every soul inside them. With the most praiseworthy Devotion the Post office clerks on perceiving the fire worked at throwing out Tho mail bags from the front of their vans and the connexion Between it and the remaining part of Tho train was broken by the railway officials Post office men and passengers who undid the couplings and Cut the wide leather bands which passed from the Van to the Post office itself. All accounts state that the Collison itself was not very severe. Thompson Tho Driver says that so Little did he expect it would be so even after seeing the trucks that he would not have leapt off the engine if to had not seen there was Oil on the trucks. The boiler of the engine did not burst. The buffers of the engine were smashed by their coming in Contact with the trucks and Tho Lender in its somersault broke Oft both the valve pillars. Tho collision must have occurred at about a Quarter to 1 of clock. Twenty four watches have been found among Tho remains of the bodies and they All Point to from within a Quarter to ten minutes to 1 but the line for a Lengli of some forty or fifty Yards was in a sea of flame till nearly 8 of clock in the evening owing to the Petroleum being spread Over it. Thompson became so faint from loss of Bood that he had to be removed within a few minutes after the fire broke out but More than one bystander has told me that despite the exertions of a number of men who kept throwing buckets of water on it the fire continued to Burn for the period i have named. The ballast Between the rails having become saturated with the Petroleum Burnt fiercely and Tho rails themselves became red hot. Neither the engine nor the carriages of the express Wero overturned but the wagons were thrown a off the line with such violence that they knocked Down portions of a Strong Stone Wall bounding the line on the Side next the sea. The noise caused by the collision was not heard at any considerable distance but the flames were seen far and wide. \ lord Hamilton is stated to have acted with much presence of mind and Energy. To was Active in assisting Tho passengers to get out of the carriages and it was owing to him principally that the up Irish express from Holyhead was stopped and so another collision prevented. Probably this is Tho Only very disastrous railway Accident in which there have been no wounded with the exception of one individual. It has been death in a most dreadful form or entire escape. On the line there is now scarcely a Trace of the tragedy. In Tho Parish Church of Tho town there lie what the surgeons say Are the remains of thirty three of the victims but to the eyes of an Ordinary observer these remains would appear nothing More than Bones of some kind reduced to charcoal. As i stated in a former communication identification of any particular body is out of to question. As a proof of this i May observe that the remains which up to to Day were stated by the Polico to to those of lord Farnham turn out on surgical examination to be those of a woman and some intelligent persons believe that a calcined something which was brought to Tho Church As the body of a child is the Burnt Skeleton of a dog. The four legs of some animal like a Gazelle or a Chamois have also been found in Tho ashes and Ilis stated that there was some such Anima i in the train. To Day three surgeons living in to neighbourhood a drs. Lloyd Griffith and Jones attended at the Church in pursuance of instructions from the Coroner and conducted a scientific investigation. They discovered that in Many cases portions of the remains of two different persons had been gathered together As parts of one Corpse. In no Caso were there feet or legs nor was there anything like a perfect head. In one of Tho Corlius were remains in two or Throe different pieces. One of these was a jaw with some whisker attached. The Small Fiortio of flesh which remained was like Black Oather. Tho remains of some of Tho bodies Are thus described 1 a no. 4. Male body Skull consumed by fire neck Thorax and Abdomen All intact. From buttons found on to body bearing lord Farn Hamas Crest it was recognized As that of one of his lordships servants. Ltd a no. 5. Male body Skull and face generally not to much Burnt As the other bodies. The Teeth in both jaws Are quite perfect and evenly arranged. A portion of Tho right Arm still remains the rest of both extremities being destroyed. There was a Metal Chain found on this body which might Load to its identification. A no. 6. Remains of body sex unknown there being nothing left but a Small portion of Thorax containing heart and lungs both much charred the Pelvis absent. A no. 7. Remains of body sex unknown portions of Skull and vertebrae. Adhering to a portion of the trunk were portions of Tho liver much charred Pelvis absent a no. 9. Male body a portion of Skull remains Thorax and Abdomen intact arms and legs entirely consumed. Two Gold studs and a Belt buckle were found with this body which May Lead to its identification. A no. 10. Female body very much Burnt Skull and whole of extremities totally destroyed contents of abdominal cavity remaining intact. There was nothing about Tho body to Lead to its identity. ,. A no. 11. Malo body Skull nearly consumed the left Side of the face with a Quantity of whisker adhering Only remaining body much burned. There were a pipe and buttons found with these remains by which Means the body was recognized As that Charles Cripps lord Farnham a Footman. A no. 12. Female body portion of Skull Only remains Thorax intact poll Spand its contents quite perfect the whole body enveloped in crinoline wires. The body is supposed to be that of Mary Anne Kellett. A no. 13. Charred remains sex unknown these consisted of contents of Thorax and portions of the vertebrae Pelvis and lower extremities ab-8dlt a no. 14. Female body remains of a tall and slender woman body much charred contents of Pelvis destroyed. The body answers to the description of lady Cli Innery. A no. 20. Remains of body the body was so fearfully Burnt that there were no Means left to distinguish the sex except by Somo articles that were found on Trio body namely portion of a lady a Collar a Sovereign and a key. The supposition is that Tho remains Are those or a a a no. 21. Female body enveloped in crinoline wires very much Burnt contents of Pelvis intact. To following articles were found on the body a Gold plate for supporting artificial Teeth a Crochet Needle an Ink bottle. T he Arti Clos Ero recognized by her sister As those of Elizabeth Strafford who was housekeeper to lady Farnham. A a. ,. A no. 29. Malo body Skull destroyed arms and portions of legs Burnt contents of Pelvis intact. There was a steel Spring band found on tie body evidently tie remains of a truss. A to portion of a plaid flannel and a Vest and a piece of a Belt together with some buttons indicate that the remains were those of Smith the

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