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British Press (Newspaper) - October 17, 1820, London, Middlesex \;/|. NcMBEH 5S74. LONDON, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 17, 1820. Pkicb 7d. rHEAtRRiRoYALyPOVMNT-GARDBN. f�1HlS EVENINQ, TUESDAY. October 17. J. will be perforined llie Mnaical Drama of ROB ROY MACGREGyR. Sir Frederick Vernon,- Mr. JSRcrton; Rasbleff;)! Oabalili-stone, Mr. Ablioll; Francis Oabaldislone,, Blr. Duruiel; Rob Koy MargreeorCnmpbell, Mr. BiUcready ; Dougal, Mr. Kmery; Daillie Nicol Jarvie, Mr.. Llsion. Diana Vernon, niiisUreenej Helen Macgregur, Mrs. Faucit. After wliich llie new Farce of TOO LATE FOR DINNER. Frank Poppleum, Mr. Jonrs; Mr. Nicholao Twill, Mr. Lislun; Robert Rafter, Mr. Emery; Monfi. Fumel, Mr. Yates, Mrs. Thompson, Mrs. DaveuporJ} Miss Emma So-mei ton, Miss Foolc. Durinc the recess tbe Tlientre has been entirely new decorated and embcliislied. A Private Box maybe had fo the Season, or nightly, of Mr. Ijrandun, at theBox-Office. Places for the {ioxesto betaken of Mr. Brandon, at the Box-Officc, Hail-street, from Ten till Fonr. ; A Private Box may be had, nightly, by application at the Box OIBci-, u.^ * Bo3(09,^-7si;-Srt!�nd Price, 3s. 6d.-Pit, Ss. 6d.; Second I'rice, 2s.-(;a!lery, Ss.; Sicuinl Price, Is.-Upper >' �� � . lilie Doors will be Opened at Half past Six�'Clock, and the Flay bej;i:i at Seven. To-raorrow, the Trneedy of Cymbellne: Posthnmiia and larhimo by Mr.C-. Kembleand Mi-. Macready-with Cymon. On Thnreday, She Stoopj to Conquer-after which a iiew Ballet, called Pj'cmalioii-and The TVllsfV. Om Friday, The Stranger-alter which, a new Musical Farce, called A Race for a Wife. BEAUTII-rjL BRITISH MAiNUFACTURE. To l!if t Frieuils, the Public, the abuve Siivle of the Wheel, reminding Ihem that One Day more will conclude Ihe Lollcry. A lew Tiekets and Shares, war-I'uuteil nndrawnj are =s i.f .Medicines have rngagetl the allenlimi of mankind in all age.s, and to tlii- sagacity, indn.slry, and good fnrlune of inquirers, the worlil is indebted for many valimlile discoveries. Among these there are sonic which litve m-iintained their claim to eiisliiiclion for a long period of time, ami have coinmaiiiled nppnibiilion Bs real itdditioiis to the cejurnl stud:: the . 1 can't charge my mininry. At what^tiine did you gel him put on the books of Ihe Thi.sbe? He v/aa discharged from Ihe Poictiers into the Thisbe, to got his pay, in June or July, ISl I. Hail Cariiiigton ever any reason givew hiio lo txpect promotion ilnriiig the lime he was serving as quariennasier? Not while I was in the ship. Did Carriugiiiii ever State to you any diffiriilty as In procuring dress and his as inidslil|iiu.iii: No; if he had I sliuulil have maintained hiin, as I did otheis, utilil he was able lo repay me. Mr. Brunghain wibhrd lo lay the foundation of a question lo lie put Id the witness, by reiniiidiog llieir Lordship�, that from the evidence, allhoiigh it appeared Car-iinglou liad first of all represented himself as a midshipman, he had explained lhat in subsequent p lis of his leslimouy to ine.iii ihiil he nnderstood hi; was lo bi; a midsliipinan for some moiilbs (he could n.'t rrrullict bow many) before he quilted Ihe service, and the last tesliiuoiiy he gave on this head was, lhat he was not c.riain h.iw long he been nit'd a inidshiprnan, but he was cerlaiii of his havii.g been a midshipinan when he kfl the service. By Ihe Earl ot Liverpool-Could William Cairington have .understood ihal he was lo be raled as a niidshiinuiu previous to Sir J. Beresford leaving the shi|)? This quesliou being objC(;teri to, the witness was asked -Had Sir J. Beresford so acicd to Cai-rington, or Carriugtuu to him, as In 1. ad Carriag. ton to suppose that he would he rated as midshipinan, pre- j vion^ to Sir J. Beresford leaving the Poictiers ? I Mr'. Brongbiiin said the quesliou appeared lo him super-fluOus, as Carringtoii iiad stated that he did not know bow lung be hail been rated midshipman. Tbe Lord Cbanciillo'r said the witness bad twice sworn Ibat he was a midshiliman, and though he had fiually sworn what Mr. Brflugbani had stated, the whole must be looked at together when the effect of Kir evidence came to b� iK>n> sidered. "^'^ Wa� be ever led to believe iHif he' was liercftfler to be a midshipman, and by whom ? H^at never led to Vxprct it from me. 1 was going lo give an iiVioii^ which would pei-i haps not be evidence.-(^Cries of^'Order, order.") ' Mr. Brougham-I beg lhat no' jiarty will Interrupt Ihe witness in bis answer. Earl Grey-It is a question of ojifnion. The Lord Chancellor said, if whaCthe witness was goine to state should turn out not to be'evidence, it could be struck off the notes, but he Ihdii'ght. it would be going too far to say becansc the wilDess^ihpiight (l would not be evidence, it should be given; If Sir John 'Beresford were on a Naval Corirl-mariial, hrs opinion would must probably be correct; biit bSrc the proper course would be to hear what the witness wiisgoing to say. Sir John Beresford-In answer lo'tlie Karl of Lilverpool's question, whether he was led lo beliBte by any other person that he should be made a midshipman ? my answer was going to ,'be-The First Lieateuaut had so good an opinion of the man that 1 could not tell what be niii^ht have held out lo him in my absence. By tlicEarl of Landerdale-1 wiiSli to kiiolw if you ever lold hint that he was to be-oit,-rttKqainfJerdefU, and lio replied that he had no money tojtupporl himoelfth'ere ? Earl Grey thought Ihfll the wituesi* had slated'that reason lo another person. Tlie Earl of I.,anderdale quoted Carrington's words, as lold by him to the witness. Sir John Beresford-He never told me any such thing, and after I laiew he was to be Sir Wm. Gell's servant, it was veiy unlikely that I should propose to him to become an oiEcer in the service. But hefore you knew that had yon ever stated it to him? No. Did he ever go on the quarter-deck ? He never was oii the quarter-deck as an oflicer above the rank of quarleruiasler. By Earl Grey-Did Carrington apply to you after he left the Poictiers respecting his pay ? He did. Can you recollect what passed on that subject? I think it was four or five years after that I met bim in Ihe sircet, and he said lo" me, " Captain, I caniinl get my pay." Did you give bim a letter to a genileman in Somerset House ? I went myself, nr gave him a letter, I don't recollect which; but 1 know I got him his pay. Do you recollect ever speaking to hira about quitting the service? Yes; I remember rather reproaching him for quilting Ihe service, particularly as he was so comforlabiy situated aboard the ship ; I was displeased ; I did not like his quitting the service, and the reason he gave me fnr quitting was, that he had been pressed intothe service, and never liked the sea. i My question related to a time previous lo his quitting the service ? The answer he gaveboth before and after quitting the service was the same. But he said nuthini; of his inability In maintain himself on the quarter deck? No.-[Cries of "Head the last question and nnsu-cr.'") A considerable noise still pVevailiug in Ihe House, The Lord Chancellor said, if Noble Lords wislieu lo hear the short-handwriter, it would be as well if they were not Iheinselves heard quite so audibly. The last quesliou and answer were then read. By Lord Colville-Do you know if Carrington, while doingiluty on board ihe Poictiers, knew what bis rating actually was at that time? Mr. Bronghain objected, that the answer of the witness could not be evidence. Lord Colville conceived it was a proper qnesiion to be put. 'ihe Lord Chancellor th�ught il had better be put thus- Does .Sir John Beresford know from anyfactor circumstance within his own knowledge that Carrington did know buw be was rated ? " ��:.->;�-- The question was so put. A. Every manand officer in theship knew bow he was rated, but of 600 men who were on board Ihe ship, it cannot besnp. posed that I can remember the rating of every one after a lapse of ten years. Are you ceilain lhat did not know be was rated quarlcrmssier ? 1 should lliink he knew it, as be always did the duly of quartermaster. By Lord Cumhcrmere-Do yoti know if he messed xvith the midshipmen ? He never did. Did he receive the pay of Midshipman or Quartermaster; 1 believe of both. By the Lord Chancellor-According to the rules and practice of the navy, is not every man rated according to the duty he does on board the ship ? Yes, generally speaking. By his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence-During tbe ^ made the slrongeat impression ou your Lordships' mind>'; I mean the Car'aiuhe ca*ie, which does out seem to conned iiself witli any other part. We have only one wnuiss s.-nt by a German Prince to be examined befoic a Miniaier, and afteiwardg sent lo Hanover to be examined-not befoiethe Milan Com-iQission, uot befiH-e any ('ommissinn which has been accie. diled by his Maje.siy's Governmciii." The f.arl of Liverpool (as we understood him) said, it was perfecily irge that she bad been examined in Gerruaiiy, bo't^yel that it was equally true she had afterwards been exa-uiineil Dt Milan, The Earl of Carnarvon-" But I wish to know who can make tbosetianoverian agents responsible for any lamperir^ or for any influence which Ihey may and have used in sending that .witness here' I say it is impossible. Are we, my I.oids, to.liaten lo a charge restiiig on ihe i vidence oi" one smgje rndiridual, and tbal individoal forcetl to appear before you by a fdreign power, who had been sent to the cairita! oi another foreign power' We have not the means ot knowing what power may have been exerted by lhat power whirti l.a^ nocon-nexiiHi with u.-*, and wh'i had no ri'.;lit lo intrif.-re with our proceedings, whose agents we have nn means e-f ca'ling before ui, whose lachoN arc not accountable to ns. Is It not proper, my Loids, that we should know whethrr these Hanoverian agents did art under Ihe control, and by ihe direction of the Noble Earl anil his colleagues, wljn admit themselves lo he responsibU-' .My Lords, unless lhat responsibility is establisheil, I should ronlend that her Ma-je-ily's Counsel should be direcled not lo proceed. .Mv Lords, we must observe loo, with respect lo this CailsruhL- cage, that It is not mixed up with any oiher poiat. Il Uas been proved in evidence lhat compulsion has been iisid on the part of Ihc .Sovereign of that little and almost invisible en*-pire. There is slron; ground to suspect, indeed wc lr*ve all but positive proof, that as to lhal part of Ihe ease Ihe evidence has been selected, examined, aud grappbd with by a lilile German despot.-(f/eor. hear.'}-The wn-iie of ibis arrangem- nt has passed between Iwo little peily Gi rnian d' potisnis. 1 would ask your Lordships wbithpr yon would go into this questinn - whether you would sufi'er any part of the charges supported by the sinale witness alone to b-i the subject of division ? Mv Lords, this question, disgraceful as ilia in all opinions-/"/.oud cri'ej ofHear'." J-to the h inour of tbe country and ouiselves, must be lookidil into.- Wc must know wheiher this emanates only from the coiisli-tnlioual advisers of the Ring of England, or whether it i-i mixed up with the constiluliunal advisers of the Kiioj of Hanover-and perh'ips it may not be iiiiproprr hereto inquire, whether the constitutional advisers of the Duke of Cornwall may not have used their endeavours to brini; this lionoHrable measure before us, to di>eracr, ami, perliips, lo destroy tbe country.-[l.oud crifs sibly throw out the Bill:-[ficar, hear)- 111 what a situation, I say, should we be pl-:tced in when all Europe has smiled at onr proceediugs already ; I will n�i-no harsher term-what, I say, would be tiio eU'ecl if thi:* greal and augusi meeting were we at the end uf these proceedings to vole thai Ibis preamble is proved, and yei upon general principles throw out the Bill ? In doing so wc must insult tills unfurtiiiiale woman-we cannot, mnsi not do it. -(Ciicers)-My Lords, great as the responsibility is, ihey will not venture to intrude upon themselves such a piopos;. lion so disgraceful. My Lords, 1 hope no Noble Lord will think lhal it is cunsisient, in the name of consislencv, to vote lhal all the charges are proved, and yet turn "out ilie Bill. It is impossible so to do ; and if they shall give rbe first vote contrary to all precedeiii and sense, then 1 shall hope, as late repentance is better than luno;, tluil ih-y will proceed lo throw out tbe Bill. They may cliauge their opinion, and a talc change is better lhau none-whethtr you think the charges provetl or not, the Bill may not pa.ts. 1 will a�k, iu God's name, why have we gone iiilo thu inquiry ; Have we not gone into the evidenre lo nmii.v.i whether the Bill should be read a second linn- ' For wliiic purpose have we quietly sat ai>d heard all this ribaldry nt tht,* bar?-for what purpose hove wc heard oil this disgrace! ui evidence? If 1 understand any lliiiig of parliainentai y proceedings, the Noble Lords who have determined t.i w.. into evidence in support of the I'dll, did tneau lliut u' the evidence prove the charges in ihe Bill, that llieii the Bill ouglil to pass. My Ixjrds, for myself I have said all along lhal evidence has uolliing to do with ihe Bill. 1 have said all along, prove what you will I never will hear any thing of this Bill.-(Hcnr.)-My Lor.U, I saywecanuoi, unless we abandon our duty, pass ihis Bill, do what we v/ni.' -{Hear) Lord .Melville moved, that the proper Offirer of the .-Vd-miralty do lay before the House co(oes from the booJts of his Majesty's ship Poic/ifir.v, sliewing how Carrington wa^ riited iliereiii during his seivice on board ihai ship, wIikIj agreed Iu. PUilippo Pome Kas then called in, and cross-eiamiiied by Ih,-Allorney-Gi neral. You have staled that you resided in a house at the Baroiia ; ask him if that house IS now called the Villa Bergami - Ye>, , �l present 11 is called the Vill-a Berganil. How lonij has it been so culled ? A little Ume ago. How loug ago: After that .Membniza sold it, akoiir three niuulhs ago. Does he mean to swear that il was not called the Villa Bcrgami until three monlliB ago from this time' It called by some people so before Meinhrnza bou-j^ht il, and alter Bergami bought it we always called it the Villa ijeiganii- we have now begun lo call il the Viila Ilergauli. IJow lon'.f is II since it was lirsl calUd Ihe Vil!a Bergami ? He bought it in Ihe year 1816. After Bergaini purchased it, did you cor.tinue lo work there as carpenter for Bergaini ' I h;*ve. Has he eoiitintied to work lor I'erganti at the Vrladoivii to the present time? Wiien he was the nu-ier I woi keil for hiiu ; when other people were liie nva-^lers I worked I'ur them. When did ywu last seeBerg.imi? lhal I do not quite recollect, it may have been iu the ni-julli of Aogtst, I believe. Where ' At his house. Did you see him any where else- I have seen him in no nther place, for 1 never wenl out of the Imuse. Did you see him ilie day you left ihi: Viila B.:rg.-inr. : I did not. How long before? I left the Vil Bergimi on Ihc 12lh for us to know whether corruption has beeirusecl lo suborn j of September; I saw bim in August, but I cannot remember witnesses,-(ftcar, Aear,)-I shall pnt that question, so eon. vincrd am I both of the propriety aud necessity of putting the day. Will you sweir that you did not ace bim in the month of ;