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Brisbane Courier (Newspaper) - November 13, 1885, Brisbane, Queensland National Library of Australia that the reasons assigned by the Assembly for their action could not to gainsaid. He under stood that it not Tho general intention min to discuss the Bill and therefore it Ita simple duty to move that the committee do not insist on their amendment after which Short address the postmaster general sat Down amid o hum of voices. My. Mursay a Knob said that at that time he would say but Little on Tho matter but expressed his intention of insisting on what after due consideration to thought the duty of the Council. Their rejection of the payment of members clause had been agreed upon Only after due and Maturo consideration. The onus of any inconvenience to the country that might Ariso would rest entirely with the other House. The Poat master general said that to could not hear Tho Hon. Gentleman. Or. Prior replied that he saw the Gravity of the situation and that perhaps made his voice ii Little weaker than usual but the Hon. Gentleman would not have to complain of the weakness of his voice when he spoke again a Little later on. The next member to arise or. F. T. Gregory who dealt seriatim with the various dances of the message of the Assembly and in the course of his remarks denied altogether that the functions of Tho to poor House were analogous with those of the House of lords in England. They the Council were not a reflex of the House of lords any Moro than the Assembly were a reflex of the House of commons. They existed under a Constitution act of their own and they followed on the lines of Tho British Constitution because they happened to be suitable to colonial institutions. They could not arrogate to themselves the functions of a British parliament Whoso traditions had been Well tested but had nothing to do with their own Constitution. Tho Assembly said that for centuries the House of lords had not at tempted to exercise its Power of amending an appropriation Bill but this because no occasion had Arisen for them to exercise the right. It useless to direct attention to what had Token Placo in the legislature of Kow zealand because the cases could not be analogous As the Constitution of new zealand not identical with our own. The fact that the Assembly were unable to find an instance of a nominated Council attempting to Amend an appropriation Bill no argument at All inasmuch As it no proof that such a Council would not Amend an appropriation Bill if they found it necessary. Of course if they assumed that the Assembly possessed equal functions with the House of commons and the Council with the House of lord the argument fell to the ground but that a fact they did not admit. Hon. Members he hoped could reason logically and could understand the meaning of a syllogism in which unless the premises Wera Correct the conclusion must to fallacious. To did not Seo Why twas impossible that the Assembly should Agron to the amendments of Tho coun cil and finally said that he still viewed the matter in the same Light As when the Amend ment to the appropriation Bill under Dis me. King who had been sitting in his usual place at the end of the table said that to could add nothing further to what he had Bald on Tho previous Day. He perfectly con Vinced that the Council had not the Power of amending Money Bills and even if it had that Power it would speedily to deprived of it Asi striking at the Root of constitutional govern ment. Personally to very sorry this hitch j had occurred but now it could not be helped and they must make the boat of it with which consoling remark he sat Down Only to be immediately followed by or. A c. Gregory who holding the message of the Assembly before him with both hands like a Ballad Songor delivered a set speech in an irritatingly deliberate manner. To unveiled a now feature in the controversy by baying that he would have preferred that this question had been submitted to Tho decision of some competent authority As he considered that if the House wore to insist to the extreme on its statutory rights the inevitable result would be a deadlock. He held therefore that As a Rule it undesirable for the Council to interfere with an appropriation Bill but in this instance they had exercised their right with discretion and great moderation. In the first place it admitted that they had a right to negative altogether an appropriation Bdl. They had therefore clearly a right to modify part of it and instead of causing con fusion in the country by rejecting the Bill Thoy had Only rejected a part of it and the part they objected to had Boon tacked on to the Bill it Hod been ruled that this �7000 not a question of members of the Assembly voting Money for themselves but a ques Tion of state policy and As a question of state policy it should certainly a sent up for the consideration of Tho Council who would be doing wrong if they allowed the matter to pass without exercising Tho discretion that had been placed in their hands. If they were to allow that they had not the Power to negative the Bill it would to subversive of Tho principles of constitutional government for then they would to practically under the control of the legislative Assembly. They Hod not wished to cause inconvenience to the country Ond Thero Foro they had amended in Stead of throwing out the Bill altogether. He hinted that the clause As to the payment of. Members might stand Over until next session and concluded by saying that he did not see How he could do otherwise than insist on the Amend ment they had proposed to the appropriation july this time most of the members of the Assembly were gathered together on the two rows of benches behind the bar of Tho House and for the nonce apparently were forgetful of their political differences in the Novelty of wit Nessing a comparatively interesting debate in _ the Council for among other strange pairs 1 the Premier seated next to or. Hum Slack while the Leader of the opposition watching the debate Cheek by jowl with or. Macfarlane. Me. Thynne said to had not expected that the Assembly would agree to Tho amendment proposed by the Council. The item of �7000 for members expenses reminding him of Sailor broaching cargo and threatening to run the ship ashore if they could not get what they wanted. In conclusion after explaining the difference Between the House of lord and the Council he said that the Council had been perfectly willing to provide All branches of the Public service with the necessary Money but they objected to this one item and if inconvenience caused the responsibility would not rest with the Council but with those who to do an unconstitutional act were prepared to run All risks. Or. E. B. Forrest Rose to speak next and had got As far As " or. Roberts " when that gentleman announced that he would n resume the chair at 7 o clock and the House adjourned for dinner. The galleries were fairly filled almost before the chairman of committees resumed his seat. Members however were dilatory after dinner and it almost ten minutes after 7 when the postmaster general sauntered in. The discussion resumed by or. B. B. Forrest who said that he had voted for the amendment on the preceding Day for Tho reason among others that to had voted against the payment of members but within the last Twenty four hours a " flood of Light had Boen thrown upon the question As to whether the Tipper House could legitimately interfere with a Money Bill. He thought the Assembly s message a most Temperato one and showed that Thoy evidently desired if possible to avoid a conflict Between the two houses. To regret cd that no Effort had been made by the leaders on both \ sides of the House to come to some amicable understanding. For his part to would certainly vote against the Council s amendment my. Murray prior who had been making a number of notes said in a grave voice that if or. Forrest had noted for the reboot Ion of the clause under discussion because to had voted against the payment of members to would certainly Stu Latify himself if he voted against an amendment to had voted for a few hours before. Proceeding to the business in hand he thought that it allowed by their Constitution that the Council had a perfect right to Amend a Money Bill. Could any Hon. Member Point out an instance where legislators who were in charge of the Public purse deliberately put their hands in that purse to fill their own pockets yes new zealand from the postmaster general he maintained that it a breach of parliamentary privilege for members to vote on a question in which they were Pecunia Rily interested and were not members of the Assembly interested in voting Money for their own payment ? of Tor the Bill had Boen rejected by the Council it had been tacked on to the appropriation Bill to coerce that body. It not a question of pounds shillings or Penco but of principles. There Wero times when the Council if it had any respect for itself any love for its country must step Forward and prevent wrong doing even at the Cost of its own self sacrifice. It True that they had Mado an amendment to the appropriation Bill but that just the same As if they had rejected the Bill with this difference that they had afforded the Assembly an Opportunity of amending it As for members in another place their consciences must Tell them that they had committed an illegal act and it would have been More Noble in them at what Ever Cost to their own Pride to have accepted the Council s amendment and hereafter to submit it it to some party competent to pronounce a verdict. Once before he remembered a similar Case had occurred a number of railway schemes had been bunched together some of a Billj were Desi Rable others the reverse so that if Ono were passed All must pass. The Council took a decided stand against this they sat up All night and in the morning they had a majority against the railway Bunch. If it Wero impossible for the Assembly to agree to the Council s amendment refer ring to the last clause of Tho Assembly s message How much More impossible it for the Council after Tho debate of Tho previous evening to withdraw that amendment 1 he for one would not to a party to it. Raising hid voice and drawing himself up or. Prior said it had been alleged that their existence at stake but after All what did their existence matter ? if they had to die lot them die nobly and with honour. This heroic sentiment aroused a tumult of sympathetic hear hears from Hon. Members Aik Nythy history of the Constitution of the upper House Given by or. King after which or w. Forrest said that owing to the drought and to Adverse legislation the Wool and sugar industries were almost destroyed the former through the drought and Tho latter through Adverse legislation. The Price of All raw materials in the Colony from 30 to 50 per cent lower than it two years ago. Was this a time then he indignantly asked for members of the legislative Assembly to vote Money for themselves ? instead of the Assembly boing indignant and angry they ought to to thankful to the Council for preventing them committing an illegal action for be had it on the highest Legal authority in new South Wales that if Tho Bill Wero passed any member who touched Tho Money voted to him would to liable to a penalty of �500 and the forfeiture of his seat. My. Taylor thought to had found a very easy solution of the difficulty. Take the objectionable clause out of Tho Bill and let it stand Over for a month or two. Or. Box said that it evident the Constitution not Laid Down plainly enough for Ordinary Mon to understand. Let them Appeal to the privy Council on the Point under dispute and abide by the decision. Waxing warm he bitterly exclaimed " let the members of the Assembly take their �200 a piece i Don t grudge it let them take it while the ruin of the country trembling in the balance and when its Prosperity in . Prior said he would be glad if some solution could be found whereby a conflict might be avoided and messes. A. 0. Gregory and w. Forest both Sug. Tested Varios methods and finally Tho latter gentleman said that there no competent tribunal in the Colony to decide on the question for All men of weight were or had been Strong political partisans to did not he explained use the term partisan in a bad sense. The proper tribunal to apply to the privy Council in the course of his speech he said that no matter How Many party supporters any government might nominate to the upper House for political reasons eventually there would always be a majority of moderate conserva Tives. I in the opinion of or. Prior it Tho duty of the Council to Avert a deadlock if they could do so. It impossible however to do other Wise than they were doing. It no question of Pride or party. In another Placo members undoubtedly thought they were in the right and without losing one Iota of their Pride they could submit to the decision of some competent authority. This would do them no harm and avoid plunging the country into disasters. He bad no wish to go beyond the Constitution or to Deal with Money matters if it shown that the Constitution opposed to such a course but would do his Best to pre vent wrong being done. He again hoped that some solution of the difficulty would be found. After further discussion during which the postmaster general remained passively silent it resolved to insist on the amendment proposed by the Council by 15 to 9. Tho majority consisted of messes. Box w. Forrest Graham a. C. Gregory f. T. Gregory Hart Lambert Macpherson m Dougall Murray prior Power Smyth Taylor Thynne and a. H. Wilson. The minority consisted of messes. Cowlishaw Foote Holberton King Mac Donald Paterson Pettigrew Swan e. A Forrest and w. H. Wilson. Tab result ordered to be forwarded by message to the Assembly stating that the Council insisted on their amendment. In reply to the Assembly s message it stated that the Council did not arrogate to them selves equal functions with the House of lords and did not recognise the Assembly As having equal functions with the House of commons. With regard to the instance in Kew zealand when the Council attempted to Amend a Money Hill it pointed out that the Constitution act of new zealand differed from that of Queensland. As for no in stance being found of a Council amending a Money Bill no similar instance had yet Arisen. Thoy objected to the manner in which the ii Tom which includes payment of members had been tacked on to the appropriation Bill and finally left the matter in the hands of the legislative Assembly. J the postmaster general provided a tame � ending for an interesting Adobato by laying on i the table a copy of regulations under the Crown lands act after which Tho House adjourned. Momentous though the question at Issue yesterday before Tho legislative Assembly the proceedings were As quiet As a funeral. Of coarse the very Gravity of Tho situation May Havo made members sedate and no doubt the possibility of a Well earned Holiday receding into the dim distance sobered legislators who Are All pretty Well Faggot out by the labours of a fatiguing session. In the evening when the Council insisted on their amendments and the House resumed Thero considerable Anima Tion in the chamber while the galleries were crowded by interested civil servants or curious minded politicians. The expectation of a scene however disappointed As Tho Premier at once moved the adjournment of the House to give time to All parties to sleep on the awkward and perplexing situation. Or. Speaker in formed the Homo As soon Asho had Takon the chair that Tho returning officer for to Electo ral District of Musgrave having furnished him with a certified copy of Tho new old Coral Roll for the District to had issued his writ for the election of a member for that District. The House wont into committee of the whole to consider the legislative Council s amendments in the appropriation Bill. The Premier said that this probably a unique instance in the history of constitutional government where an appropriation Bill had Cen printed in this form pointing to the amended Bill As printed indicating Amend ments made in it by the upper Branch of the legislature he proposed thatch amendments to disagreed with. The question now must to considered simply unconstitutional grounds and he did not intend to discuss or raise for a moment the question of Tho propriety of the vote to which the Council Toke exception. They had to do with the far higher question whether the legislative Council were to to allowed to interfere with an appropriation Bill. That the Ono question Bosforo the House a question on which he trusted members of the House would be unanimous for he sure that no authority of any value at All in fact that no person with Tho least rudimentary notion of the Principio of constitutional government could to found who maintained that a legislative Council could exercise the functions the Council had done in making those amendments. After quoting from Todd s parliamentary government to How that the Council not possessed of the rights or Powers claimed the Hon. Premier Refo Rcd at some length to Tho history of Tho new zealand dispute in which the Council had expressly disclaimed the right or Power to Amend a Bill of Supply and had also been declared by lord Coleridge and the late sir goo go Jesski to Havo no Power to vary or alter a Money Bill. There could he held be no higher authority than the opinions expressed in Tho Kew zealand Case. Tho authorities on constitutional Law against the Council s assertion of rights to co ordinate Powors with the Assembly Woro he believed much More numerous than the votes Given in the Council for Tho amendments then under consideration a remark which greeted with resonant hear hears from Tho government Side of the House. A Brief reference to Tho constitutional Battle in Victoria having been Mado Tho Hon Premier said that All precedent All Autho Rity and All Law Scro one and the difficulty to argue a matter on which there no serious Contention except by the majority in the Council. As to the extra Ordinary position that because the legislative Council were not forbidden to Amend a Money Bill therefore Thoy had the right to do it. That a sort of argument which if applied to Tho Constitution generally would Render the whole thing unworkable. If it had not been for the very serious nature of Tho difficulty now before them the House might very probably have resented what they regarded As an insult by at onco laying Asido the Bill. But Thoy were desirous of carrying on the govern ment of the country and did not Desiro rashly to provoke a quarrel. On the contrary they desired to avoid it and they trusted that when the real state of affairs plainly put before the legislative Council that that chamber would see that the position they had taken up untenable and that the Assembly had always claimed and must claim and must maintain their exclusive right to to control of the Public finances. After pointing to the terms of the preamble of Tho appropriation Bill terms in which every appropriation Bill passed in Queensland had been couched As further proof that the Assembly had never admitted and that the Council could not claim the Power to Amend the Bill he concluded by stating that the message to the Council return ing the Bill and disagreeing with their Amend ments had been framed in the most Concilia tory language possible. The Leader of the opposition did not think the Premier did Justice to the members of the House nor to his late colleague when he said that no one who had even the most rudimentary knowledge of constitutional Law would Havo come to Tho conclusion that the upper chamber had the right to Deal with Money Bills. He thought it a matter legally of very great doubt and he knew it a matter of very great doubt with the Premier s late colleague or. Mein who had fought the ques Tion six years ago in the Council. The Premier himself had followed As far As he possibly i could or. Moin s tactics in the upper Cham Ber. " nothing of the kind cried the pre Mier with emphasis. Tho Premier continued sir Thomas had at any rate Given him no assistance whatever when he maintaining the rights of the Assembly except to Cavil at the quotations to made in support of his con Tention. The Premier s remarks were there fore a very bad compliment to his late col league who Hod the reputation of being a Good constitutional lawyer and a very sensible shrewd Man. The authorities quoted by the Hon. Member so far As they came from Victoria were not to contended applicable atall because the Constitution act there said that the Council could not Amend a Money Bill As to Tho new zealand Case they knew that the value of a precedent Liko the opinion of a lawyer dependent on the value of the Case submitted. They had not the accurate know ledge of Tho Constitution of new zealand to decide whether the opinion of lord Coleridge and sir George Jessel applicable to Queensland at All. What to did say that if it had that meaning the Premier would have Only been acting with Ordinary prudence foreseeing As he must have done what coming bad he stated a Case and got an opinion from some eminent constitutional lawyer. It either the fact or not that the upper House had the right to Amend a Money Bill. But whether they had the right or not there not the slightest doubt that they ought not to possess it hear hear came from he government benches and therefore the question ought to be definitely settled. It would to a Happy result if Tho proceedings consequent on the vote on this Bill wer to Lead to a settlement of Tho matter. It would he and could be settled Only in one because if the Council had the Power claimed it not confined to cutting out an objectionable item in the appropriation Bill but implied the right of adding to the estimates. They could see what con fusion in the finances of the Colony would ensue if there were two Chambers one representing the people voting Money and Tho other representative of whatever political party had put them in Power also voting Money the one responsible to their constituents and Tho other responsible Only As upright Mon inde pendent of that it would Lead to the gravest extravagance and do away with All control Over the finances of the country. The sooner they could arrive at the fact As to whether the Council had this Power the Botter. To inclined to think they had the Power but lot that be decided first. And whenever it decided then Thoy had got to commence Tho constitutional fight to take that Power from them. The Premier had tried to narrow Tho question Down to whether the Council had the Power to Amend Tho appropriation Bill. But Hon. Members must remember that it had got to be looked at also from a different Point of View and no doubt the other chamber had so looked at it. There no question whatever about Tho Othor chamber having co extensive Powers with Tho Assembly Over All other than Money Bills. A Bill had Boen submitted to them on which the Assembly bad admitted that they had just As much right a the Assembly to say what should to done with it. The Assembly acknowledged that the Mattor had Beon decided against them when the other chamber threw the Bill out. But what did the Assembly do ? Thoy actually tried to put an act of parliament into Tho estimates and make the upper chamber pass a Law in that shape to which they had expressed their aversion. That a Courso which actually deprived the other chamber of a part of their rights. The Council had gone too far in asserting their rights in order to recover the ground that ought never to Havo been taken from them. If there had been any constitutional Means at All by which the Assembly s action could have been stopped to believed that the Council would have been thoroughly justified in using it. It a discreditable thing for the Assembly to come Forward and say that the whole machinery of Tho Colony to to put ont of gear that the government contractors should not be paid and that the civil servants should not receive their salaries because they had taken Steps to see that All that would to brought about unless they got paid their screws themselves. The Council retaliated and said if they insisted on having their salaries paid they must Tako the consequences of All Tho Othor salaries being stopped. He should say that they had Only one course to pursue Thoy had got first to establish their constitutional rights and if Thoy found that Tho Othor chamber had co ordinate rights with Thom then they had to go further so As to obtain Tho sole control of the finances. The subject could not to treated As Tho Premier wanted to treat it solely in the Light of Tho demand made by the other chamber to Amend Money Bills. They could not consider it otherwise than alongside the payment of members Bill. To Bollo cd the Assembly Woro doing an illegal net in putting the payment of members on the estimates and that it would to proved to be illegal in the courts of Law. They courted an unenviable position before the country if Thoy brought on a Block in the Publico service by a persistence in demanding the payment of their own salaries. The Premier declined to discuss the ques Tion on any other than constitutional grounds or to take up any position with a Delro to obtain any temporary purpose. As to the crisis in 1879, he maintained that he had assisted the Presont Leader of the opposition who then in Power in maintaining the privileges of the House. To had expressed a doubt As to whether Tho Rule relative to Supply Bills could to applied to Bills dealing with local taxation. As soon a authority had been placed before him on the subject his doubt solved and to had Given his support to the Hon. Member. To had never done anything to diminish the privileges of the House. The Leader of the opposition Bald he knew when he got support in the House and when he encountered opposition. So far from getting assistance from Tho Premier that Hon. Member had traversed almost All the authorities he had quoted. He had Given him no assistance but what opposition to possibly could. The Premier retorted that there " Hansard " where All that he bad said reported. " Hansard " stated that to had Given to Hon. Gentleman All Tho assistance in hib Power. Or Chat Tab said that the other chamber had claimed co ordinate rights with the As Sembly but while contending for that Power and maintaining that the parliament of Queensland the offspring of Tho Legisla Ture of new South Walo which undoubtedly it a reference to the official history of Kew South Wales showed that the Council in that Colony had never claimed and never had claimed for them the right now contended for by the upper House. After quoting from the official history referred to to show that by Resolution the legislative Council and legislative Assembly of Kew South Wales had been established in As close approximation As possible to the Constitution of the British parliament the Hon. And Learned member said that the Council of Kew South Wales had claimed several times the right to Amend Money Billa but that the claim had never for a moment been admitted by the Assembly. Tho Constitution act of Queensland an exact copy of that of new South Wales and therefore Tho Assembly Here had All the undoubted privileges of the House of com Mons according to the framers of the Constitution. If the clause relied on by the Council were to be construed by itself and a an abstract document there might be something to be said for the Power claimed by the Council. But it would be contrary to the spirit of the Constitution and contrary to the spirit of the Constitution of every country under the British Empire. Viewing the subject in the Light of history he had come to the conclusion that the right of dealing with Money Bills rested entirely with the Assembly and be therefore Felt bound to support the motion of the Premier. My. Norton declared that the Premier when he decided to regard this question solely on constitutional grounds had exercised a bound discretion. But it Only fair that they should look for some sort of explanation which would form an excuse for the action taken by the Council. The origin of the difficulty Lay with the Premier himself and that fact ought not to be lost sight of. After giving a history of the payment of members expenses Bill and of the insertion of the sum of �7000 for those expenses in the estimates the Hon. Member characterised the action of the government As a deliberate insult to the Council trickery and insult combined he added. He had no doubt the other chamber would have to give and the sooner the better i .1 i ? " " " but their action had been entirely owing to the worse than unfortunate action the de liberate trickery of the government. The motion to disagree with the Council s amendments carried net nine Contr Dicenti the Resolution reported to the House and the report adopted the appropriation Bill then returned to Tho Council with the reasons published yesterday and an additional one quoting the precedent to cited by Tho speaker on wednesday evening. The House then adjourned until the question should have icon disposed of by the Council. The House resumed at five and Twenty minutes to 9, when the Bill with the accompanying message delivered from Tho Council and read by or. Speaker. Tho Premier said they could not but deplore Tho decision of the Council. In the reasons which accompanied the message Thero Woro errors of fact and inference Manifest to everyone acquainted with constitutional history or Tho incidents that had occurred. How Over he thought Thoy ought not oven now to abandon All Hopo of arriving at a satisfactory conclusion on this matter and with that Hopo to would move without further remark that the message of Tho Council to taken into consideration on the Morrow. This agreed to. In moving that the House adjourn the Premier said he not without Hopo that Wiser counsels would pre Vail in Tho Council and if Thero any reason to would be the Case to would submit that a joint commit too of both houses to appointed to consider Tho state of Public business. The Leader of Tho opposition quite approved of Tho suggestion. To would to very glad to see the deadlock come to an end and with the result of actually settling whether the other chamber had to Power to alter Money Bills now that Tho Issue had icon narrowed Down to that Point. To believed they could Como to a solution on the question that would to agreeable to both parties. That Tho other chamber Roalin assumed the Power of dealing with Money Bills to could not believe and had it Boon separated from the question of to payment of mom Bors to did not believe that they Ever would Havo Mado the a retention Thoy had done the House adjourned at 8.45 . We Are informed on Good authority that in consequence of Tho action of Tho legislative Council All payments at Tho Treasury from Tho consolidated Rov nuo will cease this morning and will not be resumed until to deadlock is adjusted. I tub questions at Issue Between the two branches of our legislature will be further dealt with to Day when Tho Assembly Willi meet to discuss the ins Stanco of the council1 on their amendments in the appropriation Bill and Tho Council to hear the decision of the Assembly on Tho subject tub writ for the Musgrave election issued yesterday and published As a govern ment Gazette extraordinary. The nominations will to received at Harborton on 16th Decem Ber and the poll if Auy will be taken on the 5th january. The writ is Mado returnable on the 26th january. In addition to the reasons supplied by the1 or orator yesterday As those to to Given by Tho legislative Assembly for disagreeing with Tho amendments of the Council in the appropriation Bill the following clause inserted in the Resolution As forwarded to the Council Tho legislative Assembly maintain and have always maintained that in the words of Tho Resolution of the House of commons of 3rd july 1678all aids and supplies to her majesty a parliament Aro Tho sole gift of this House and that it is their undoubted and sold right to direct limit and appoint in Bills of Aid and Supply the ends purposes considerations conditions limitations and qualifications of such Grants which ought not to Bri changed or Alt Rod by Tho Logi Alatino Council.", the action for malicious prosecution brought by j. E. Hayes against we Ginn chairman of the directors of the1 Ipswich Woollen manufacturing company,1 not concluded at the civil sittings of the supreme court yesterday. The following cases set Down for hearing at these sittings Havo been amicably settled of. Schubert v. J. E. M. Vincent �130 Fps. 3d., for work Dono and �50 damages and a counter claim for �200 damages Smith v. Thorley �96 7s., with interest Manly a Norwitch and another �500 damages. The partnership dispute Gardner v. Tristram has Boen settled by the plaintiff receiving �1000 and costs. Tho cases remaining for hearing Are f. L. Michel v. The colonial insurance company of new zealand claim �800, with interest Queensland produce and poultry company limited v. Honry lose �1000 damages asocial jury Case. Callaghan Davis and Durack v. Evans and Hursthouse �500 damages and for an in Junction Wensley v. Lyons to decree a pro Bate Atkinson v. Long �100 damages and injunction heavy v. Macnamara �167, and �3 counter claim. The principal event at the forthcoming meeting of Tattersall club at Eagle farm will undoubtedly be the struggle for Tho cup and prize Money of 200 sovereigns. Tho cup a the donation of or. I. A Phillips of the metropolitan hotel and it is one of the grandest gifts Over presented to any australasian turf club. It consists of solid Silver Reli Ovod with much Tasto with Gold Gilt. It is fully 3ft. In height and from handle to handle measures 13in. The weight is 118oz. The front bears a suitable inscription and space is left for the Winner s name and in Tho Back a racing scene is faithfully depicted. The cup is beautifully decorated with Floral and scroll work inlaid at intervals with coloured horse shoes. The massive Pedestal on which the cup stands is composed of polished Ebony with an inlaid Gilt Horseshoe on the front. Its depth is just 12in., and surmounting Tho whole is a pretty bit of workmanship in Tho Abapo of horse and jockey Well executed. The Caso in which this Fine ornament is enclosed is Mado ? of Morocco leather neatly padded with Satin. Or. Phillips paid �100 for the article and had it imported from England by or. D. Levoe of Albert a treat As work of the kind on such an elaborate scale could not be executed with such finish and general of cel Lenco in this Colony. It arrived by the steamship bulimia on her last voyage to Bris Bane. The fortunate Winner of the tatter sail s cup for 1885 May congratulate himself in possessing a valuable and exceedingly hand some prize. With the Othor prizes offered or. Phillipa s gift will be on View at or. Mooney s shop Queen Street in the course of a few Bridge Over Talle Ludgera Creek completed last week and opened for traffic. The Structure a a Timber beam Bridge of eight spans six being 35ft. And two of 28ft. Tho total length of the Bridge and approaches is about 350ft. And Width 20ft. The piles Are sheathed with Muntz Metal and the decking is of tallow Wood. The contractor or. J. Johnson has completed the work before his contract time. The Bridge is on the Road to the Kew South Wales Border and will be a material convenience to coach and other traffic Between the Tweed Biver District and Zerang. The Brisbane Volunteer Rifle corps will Parade on saturday afternoon next for measurements for uniforms. ,.,a cablegram in another column states that the Peninsular and Oriental steam navigation company s Steamer Indus which loft London for Calcutta on 9th september totally wrecked near Tho town of trip Colaleo on Tho East past of Ceylon on her return trip from Calcutta which port she left on 1st november. Tho Indus an Iron screw Steamer of 34g2 tons Burthen and built at Dumbarton by messes. W. Denny and Bros in 1871, being thus upwards of fourteen Yoars old. My. Kates m.l.a., is the proud exhibitor at parliament House of a splendid Sample of Oats 4ft. High grown by or. Toole of Clifton in a Twenty five acro paddock irrigated by pumping from tank Creek. To avers that this sort of thing can to repeated on the driest soil in Tho Colony if water is Only applied and is persuading every visitor to Tho parliamentary Library that irrigation is Tho one thing that will save the country. The now a Sloyan Church at West end will to opened on sunday next with special services and a Tea and a Public meeting will be held at the Church on tuesday 17th instant the building which is constructed of Brick on a Stone and Concrete foundation is 60ft. Long and 36ft. Wido and has windows of tinted Cathedral Glass. It is a handsome Structure and its total Cost �2500. A i Oki Ial mooting of rambo is of Tho school of arts held last ovo Ning in the Reading room to elect three additional room Bors of commit too in accordance with the now rules which come into Force on the 1st october. Or. Blakiston Robinson one of vice presidents in the chair. Nominations received for or e. Mansfield or. Lyons and or. J. W. Sutton Woro Road and these boing the Only names sont in Tho chairman declared these gun Slomon duty elected. The prizes gained in the various competitions at the Odd Fellows demonstration at Beenleigh on monday last Woro distributed last night in Tho Odd Fellows Hall Charlotte Street. About fifty persons Woro Presont All Moro or loss interested in the proceedings. His worship Tho mayor presided and handed the prizes to Tho Winnora accompanying each with a few appropriate remarks. In the Silver cups and articles of various descriptions �2112s. Was handed Over in Money prizes. It stated that after All exp Naos had Boon paid there would to a balance to Tho Good of Over �50. Votes of thanks Scro passed to his worship for presiding and for Tho great interest to had manifested in Tho demonstration and to Tho committee and Secretary for their efforts in promoting Tho Success of to undertaking. The following Telegram regarding the Cen trial Queensland meat Export company received in town yesterday from Are p. Livor Raore chairman of Tho company and handed to us for publication Tho mooting last night very satisfactory. It decided to ask holders of Hills to Renow Tho Samo at maturity for six months with into oat added also to ask shareholders to increase their holding by 50 por cont payable 10 por cent on application and Tho Balanza by Bills at six Tolvo and eight con months without interest. Eight thousand shares were taken up provisionally in Tho room and Tho mooting adjourned till Tho 8th do combo Whon Tho blares applied for will to allotted if sufficient Aro taken to warrant Tho directors in assuming the responsibility of carrying on. All deposits and Bills for now Abarca Aro to be hold in Trust pending Tho decision of Tho adjourned meeting. A meeting of the secretaries of to Junior clubs located in fortitude Valloy held at messes Ogilvie and of s rooms on wednesday opening for the purpose of making arrange i Monts for competing for Tho Ogilvie Valloy cup. Tho following clubs Woro repro onto now form co., fortitude co., Carlton co., Wickham co., Excelsior co and Imperial 0.0. Or. Ogilvie voted to the choir. After a lengthy discussion it agreed to decide Tho Competition by Points a club scoring a win to Acorn g Points and a match drawn in favour of any club enabling that club to score 3 Points. It also decided to abide by the fixtures of the Junior association Tho com Mittoo having Power to Mako further fixtures for those clubs not belonging to that by. Messes. Ho3lohurst fortitude Coon Nody Excelsior co Matthews now farm co together with messes. Ogilvie and cunning Ham Woro Thon elected As a commit too to Mako All fixtures and arrangements with regard to the matches for the trophy. Another meeting of secretaries fixed for wednesday night not. A Hearty vote of thanks passed to messes. Ogilvie and co. For their generous gift and the mooting closed with a Voto of thanks to Tho chairman. The lawyer s Clork Augustus j. F. M. Harris who recently committed for trial at the next criminal sitting of Tho supreme court on a charge of Ombac Azling a Largo sum of Money from messes. Macpherson and Miskin and who admitted to bail a few Days ago arrested yesterday morning on a further Chargo of embezzling Tho sum of �17, on Tho 1st june last from the same firm. Hart s company now playing at Tho Academy of music will give their final performance to night Whon a complimentary Benefit is Tooton Dorod to mrs. And miss Hart in addition to the Ordinary programme song and Othor performances will to Given by a number of artists who Havo consented to Aid the company on this occasion including or. J. T. Gordon the Well known opera Singer or. Hutchison of the Elito company or. J. M. Burrowes and or. Scurcy. A meeting of the Brisbane annual regatta committee hold on wednes Day night at Tho Imperial hotel. Thuro a fair attendance and or. Re Lawson occupied the chair. The secretaries messes. Drury and Pickering reported having received letters from his excellency the governor the Premier Ond messes. Finney and Macpherson accepting the positions of Patron and vice presidents respectively. A communication read from sir Arthur Palmer regretting his inability to act As presi Dent. Tho programme then carefully revised and it decided to publish it in saturday s papers. This concluded the bus Neas. The next commit co meeting will to held at the same place on wednesday evening next at which a Largo attendance is requested. The usual weekly session of the Lifeboat Lodge . 31, held on wednesday opening in the collegiate school room Leichhardt str cot Whon there a very Good attendance of members and visitors one brother admitted on clearance card and Turco candidates were duly initiated. A recess for the congratulation of the new members then granted. A communication read and received from the Beacon Lodge. The matter of a picnic on separation Day at Sandgate discussed and a committee appointed to act As delegates with members of other lodges who were expected to to present on that occasion. Several members applied for their second degree. The d. Moved a Voto of thanks to the visitors which responded to by members of Tho Beacon Lodge and Golden Chain Lodge Petersham Sydney it being " Harmony night the remainder of the even ing devoted to pianoforte selections and songs. The Lodge closed in due form about 9.45p.m. The Wickham estate which a a to be sold to Morrow saturday11th instant by John came Ron is nowbut fit for inspection. The Clearing has been completed and with a lithograph in Hund it is quite easy to pick out every lot. J to auctioneer. Therefore earnestly requests every one to make a trip of inspection As oven those who knew the land before will be delighted with it now that All the undergrowth a off As from a Largo Nuin Bor of the lots the River seo., is distinctly visible and an estimate of the relative value of Tho lots can now to obtained. Caba will Start from the town Hal it Short intervals from 130 to 2 so conveying passengers to and from the Sale free of charge or if anyone prefers the rail the racecourse train will Deposit them within ten minutes walk of the estate. Kully detailed particulars will be found in our auction ,. A i. I 1� r our Gable message. I wreck of the Indus. " London , Ieuv cinder i. News has been received that the 0. Company s Steamer Indus has become total wreck off Trincomalee on the easter coast of Ceylon the passengers Wero All saved. The disaster will not cause an delay in the transmission of the australian mails. Distinguished visitors. London november 11. The Earl and countess of Dalhousie Are passengers by the new zealand shipping company s Steamer Kai Koura for new zealand and Australia. Reuters Agency. The situation in Burmah. Oal Ouita november 12, latest advices from Burmah report that King Thoo Bau has issued a proclamation for Tho extermination of All englishmen in burmese territory. The burmese Are now engaged in blocking the Irrawaddy River at min lat. The Roumelia conference. Constantinople november 12. The representatives of Tho great Powers at Tho conference now boing hold in this City Havo agreed to Tho Principio of restoring the status quo Ante with regard to Bulgaria and Eastern Boumeli but Thuro ousts a difference of opinion amongst the Mora Bra of the con Ference As to Tho Best Means of doing to. Mails and shipping. Port said november 11. Tho mess Geries maritime company s Steamer Salazie from Melbourne 10th october passed Here to Day bound for Marseilles four Days in Advance of contract time. Aden Novom Bor 11. Tho . Company s . Me Kara from Brisbane ctr october loft hero yester Day homewards. Queensland news. From our own correspondents Tambo Novom Bor 12. A storm broke Over the town on monday evening and continued during the night. L20in. Of rain being registered. The Ayrshire Downs Shoop in charge of or. White Havo returned Down Tho bar Coo. Welford november 12. Thirty five Points of rain fell Here on the 9th� instant. Tho weather is now tool. Townsville november 12. T an inquiry concerning Tho Lato lire on will Mott and Carrol s premises commenced to Day and adjourned for a week. The Greenfield state consisting of 128f acres situated Nino Miles from Ingham her Bort River web sold by auction to Day or. T. N. White boing Tho purchaser for �1015. Tho cattle Woro sold at �2 por head to or. A. S. Of ploy. Preparations Aro being Mado for the occupation of Tho Townsville orphanage which will probably Toke Placo not week Charters towers november 12. A Constable and Black tracker returned last night after four Days unsuccessful search for a Man named Turnor who is missing from. Rishton Cinco Tho second instant. Turner who is an old Miner had worked seven years at Rishton and knew Tho country Well. Some Puoplo think he went out prospecting and is not lost. Tho school of arts subscribers have re Quested messes. Mills and Plant trustees to resign or to accept the �500 offered by the Day Dawn control company for Tho school of arts a Sorvo. Cooktown november 12. Tho . Company s . Quetta from London arrived hero at 2.30 this morn ing. Poss ongers for Bowon or. Vivian Voss j for Mackay Captain j. Woolcock for Rockhampton or. And mrs Lott Valtz and 3 children messes. Fagge and Fraser for Brisbane-mr., mrs., and miss Craig or. And mrs. Franz miss cd a and a. Fran or. E. Shoaf messes. Ramsay Robertson Durrman and m Noil. She also brings 415 immigrants. Hor cargo a As follows for Cooktown 35 tons Townsville 336 tons. Bowen 14 tons Mackay 19 tons Rockhampton 137 tons Maryborough 6 tons Bunda Berg l8 tons Brisbane 2237 tons. Two deaths occurred during Tho voyage from measles. Two families who arc still suffering from the Distaso were landed Hore and sont to the Hospital which has caused Somo indignation among Tho people hero. Inter colonial. From och own ooh Resl Ondon tsp new South Wales. Sydney november 12. A disastrous fire occurred at Nungam this morning. Duffy a general store and the australian joint Stock Bank wore burned to Tho ground nothing being saved and the hotel adjoining Bav cd with difficulty Duffy s loss a estimated at Over �5000, while the Ina Ranco amounts to Only �1100. T the Sydney agent of the p. And o. Company has received a Telegram stating that the steam ship India has Boen wrecked at Trinco Ajeo but she is not totally destroyed and it is hoped that Abo will be afloat again in a Short time. The company s Steamer Clyo had gone to the assistance of the Indus no news of any loss of life has been received. It is understood that the Hon. George Thornton m.l.c., has accepted office a minister for mines and that he will represent the government in the upper House. The Young lady boarders who Are buffering from a disease closely resembling smallpox at the Convent of St. Vincent do Paul Darling Hurst Aro making satisfactory Progress towards recovery. Tho building still remains quaran tined. A sudden death occurred in the department of lands this morning. A craftsman named b. Brock engaged in his work Whon Sud Denly feeling unwell he sat Down in a chair and expired immediately. A meeting of members of the Church of England interested in the work of special religious instruction in Public schools wa., held to night in the Hall of the Young men s Christian association. The primate or. Barry presided. Among those present on the platform or. Webber Bishop of Brisbane. Before the commencement of the proceeding an address of Welcome presented to Bishop Webber. Resolutions were passed affirming the importance of imparting religious instruction to children attending the Public Vioola of the Colony and utilising Tho privileges afforded by the 17th clause of to Public i Truxion act. Later. The Hon. G. Thornton will to a worn in As minister for mines to Morrow. He has been a member of Thi Lygis Latlip Council for eight years and at one time Sal la the Assembly As one of the representatives of East Sydney. He Baa also filled the position of mayor of Sydney ,�./j ice i i. I in

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