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Bingleys Journal (Newspaper) - April 27, 1771, London, Middlesex laS t n lj f OR S Aff URRA U 27 tcS of LORDS en JLUo no uuu VMI i ing Bill came on before the Upper when Lee Ceun fel oh the made his Mansfield afterwards replied for die Pean andChapteit After which Lord Pauletrfppke in favouTpf the as did Lord Ie Defoencer and LordPomfret but at theTame time that in cafe at any future time die public fhouldthink proper to carry on the embanking of die they fhould be at liberty fo to do on defraying tke expeace tie prefent proprietors had been r 1 fM 1L Lord Snclounie men rote i largely into the matter his L what had been advanced at the bar citys claim of and in favour ofthe collegiate church of Weftmirifter pointed out the aifbutable from the difference of the two charters the one fetding the local limits of the iaving thefe remarkable ftrong words Infra liber totes eivitatis etfuburbii ejufdem whereas the grant ofthe river fpeaks in the fingular and without any reftriction Infra U bertatem ejufdem His Lord fliip that it moft con veyed an uncircumfcribed right to the and confequendy to thewaftes and foil j there werer no woids in the charter that confirm or point butthe particular diftrict and portion itf the river over which the city were to exercife their right they therefore had a right pf cpnfervancy from to If die had np his Lordttip theyhad been guilty sf the in jnry to legal proprietor that could poffibly by taking the as they had done for To many flairs and other erections diat as to die abufeof the Water he had himfelf been in but neves fuffered abufes in his diough they woiildj unavoida bly creep in occafionally that the city held the Water Bailiff under proper reftfidtions were they to give him then fee what hed his now worth a worth upwards of His Lordfhip next that the preamble to die bill a notorious fic tion that he had heardof fictions in ajcourt of bqt he never heard of an of Parliament 6at with a fiction j that fo far from die embank ments being intended for the good of the the poblic fid not defire it the navigation of the river was not at all complained tie witnefles had agreed that it would not better the navigation of die If the city had thought a general j embankment they would diemfelves have petitioned as well as for money to ereft and odier matters where a public ptirfe Was die thought of a general em bankment had been Ipng Inigo tutAA p the faying jdaufe ir infultwadded lisLordQiip ft pejrfeft adept in Jthat it wasiquite ff I t matters but to udges to fet efides jwhy fhpuld confined glfeterm and a fingle it was imppffible time fufficiendy to fearch their archives nd prepare records to authenticate t i TT r rt UU WAVfcCLAW J I claim in die Hdufe of Commons theMnjifttyi had eclaredNthe King gave his epnfent SncLthey had ot the bill paffetk the opponents in Hpufc be wKat mere I J si ifhfiuld mgkeamueh jetter figure when die queftioa came tp upon in their Houfei thpughlie did ome fervant of the nobleLPrdwith white ftaff in would come deliver ie fame meffage diere j he advifed the Houfe tp dieir die influence of the crown vas already too in itjiad done oo confidence pf thepeople was loft by a Why Adems pride iemfelves on wharfs for thofe who did not efire themto it a matter in which thft e opght not to trade would be ifiwharfs Svsre the ligh wiioiio toe lign diofe who had concerns on the river voulcl procure proper wharfs and ac die three old wharfs which had eeadeftroyed at had been deftroy d for fome timVyet not one ofthe who ad been had declared that naviga of the river had been at jalj injured by the ruftion the trade Had gone on juft as ufualand would continue fo without the embankment for by the who begaft die bilL with a palpable and in the laving claufe the hisf r paffed mult ang theirheads and acknowledge the greatncls nd ppwer of the whofe influence on arliament they then own and riie we thought you petitioned us foe leave o and thereby acknowledged our right td ic you would able to have die arliament to grant property his Lord lip ipoke for a confiderable time off the he alfo advanced fome arguments in kjencej f the claim of the collegiate church of Weftjiiih i jr the city had hitherto a dangerous dientj the bill would give an univerfal petitions to and having granted could lefufe The end of obtaining die bill to was palpably for the private intereft of individuals The claufe refpecting the height of piles of on the which were not ex ceed 30 was a cramp upon trade why was it inferted becaufe that the houfes above might not be fo that the elegance of diofe buildings was the main confidcration of the peti not the increafeand advantage ofthe trade on the river elegance his Lordfhip he admired as much as any but they and ought to only fecondary con not did he fjpeak this as any objection againft encouraging on con he entertained the higheft idea of their abi lity and feill as he had himfelf fo much approved of dieir that he had had large deal ings with diem both in town and and he really thought they defcrved to be but then not at the expence of private property if the Parliament thought proper to build the King a new let Adams be die he did not fee why tie King fhquld not change his arclm indeed it was his opinion all bis Jervants ought to he There was a wide difference be tween employing Adams as and their building for in the firft the tafte and proSt of their employers would be in the they would be madmen if they did not make their own lument the primary and not the lie His Lordfliip might admire the buildings at however he might applaud the noble plan pt th architects high in fame as Adams woiilc defervedly fhnd from their erections at Yard as a and a he threw afide ever confederation but and die encroachment on one inch of private property totally overturned everj favourable idea the elegance ofdieftruchiresmigh create in his breaft he and he pid not a all but that their Lordfhips would fee thi bill in a right the invafion of private prppert attempted by the bill would alarm the people were already out of temper with the prefent Par liamcnt his Lordfhip protefted that he did no mean to go into partial confideration of the matter he would as willingly have ftood up for die peti tioners as for the had he thoughtlthc peti tioncrs founded their ori and juftice but without taking an he had a right to diat this was an unlucky mo ment for the Parliament people had already cried out againft the Parlianjeijl they were and the paffing of ahil 1 C WBK J rift t crc fet out with and Was founded on in juftice would ftill further diepre fcnt his Lordfhip hadjoy legal officer of dae city been prefeated io diecou icourt cuilpm the courts e the effenjnal erence ibetweeri beingplain tiff j ns pf Weft theifour infrajitum aatuf to the to iUi 1 Ulil oTirtvM5 thstihtf Jkuc IMS MSiffe Ifrpafiiry WAW A J pradMEy ftiffiasS ia obr not haVe gjFanjfcd his fapplicatipn Jb madte hevMifas giving away sfspart ol his the piefPr native wafl imOOSllfle gative eriated therefpjftgjri wayrataylfi et talking of their not immediately icir claim to foil of umorpufly introduce4 W JHX and aving fome litdejdifliculty die wjrttingsthat roved his tidefat hedid hich his jf as die being to fell fen Hate was a moft material affair to ought tp ftrongl referred e the tie thfriafikir had found the right to die Jiave conjidered the advantages likely to accrue to the petitioners Fromr intended embankmentj and obtained afatisfeftor L tie grantW by no crowny his Lordfliip he wias extremely forry it him infesite that die had been asto dieir plain theiiright tothe waftesand foil of the river that part of the oil their had been bad ly diey had no kind to have gon e fo hut TJiff cdvrnfel for chapr of behaved with proper fpi he claim fuVtlier than diat through a grant of King aflght was ijiveftcd in them his Lordfhip i T J A jennmgs he ing die Begge kndvsr jo wSl c t ilpoletfliaj ria Members in thaj by any means whatever all die the Former jvaa ie Which tie weM oclttbfcnljed By Memfads pf that aflced the lotteryould filled without aid ofMeinbets was uiveucu in Lficui iuo VT 7 V entirely dAded tfiat the deaii arid chapter did not tpent a Member who oppofe bilj if he nnderftood the at he oppofed kfvery firmlv the his Lordfliip ftrongly could not fuppofe the claim of at all enteredjato mat ter was before them it could not be adRerting to what bcin the judging depending in a court oFldW in the prcient the HoufeofPeers and the Houfe pf tsevidJeiice Hereaffler feis jLordfhig had bieep brought in the Houfe that m ana OULOJ Lord Weymouth rofe ftrongly in avour of the he obferved that every witneis n either fide had fwore at the bar that the embank ment would ratiier be a than diffeojice to of the that it was proved mathematical experiment that more lighters jcpuldt ay at DurhamYard when embanked n the old that the ay before had agreed that the encreafe of the wharfs were greatly t was proved on all that the velocity of beam created by die embanking eighty feet he river would be the means of and bank oppofite to aj known the fet it vould be a certain public good this therefore alone deftroyed what the aobleLpr4 who lad afferted as to die fallacy ofthfe preamble jjll diat what the noble Lord had mentioned as well as what the counfcl at the bar had great ftrefs the different implication of vords libcrtattm and had gready fvn priced it was the firft time in fois that he ever heard that the Singular number meant more than the that the city wereundoubtedly conservators ofthe and as fuch in hisopinipw lad afted extremely right in pulling up erections that were prefented at confervancy as arid by keeping up their were received by the Water Bailiff as coiriplimente and gratuities that the caufe oF Sir Jofeph Mffr a fn funk by fides in thei TjHeije got and waa cldlfLoKiCamdetfito oroer for talking ojT the Houfe of but Ltard Camden in formed him not be djforderly at In what lie had begun to andthia was eVMent respecting the great utility bankment would be towards removing the farid bank oppofite Durhamyard his Lordfhip reafoh was thewitneffes on one fide the velocity if it inade a detrlnjent to the navigation ofthe witneffes the that there was notide now and that diere would be npTapiditycaUfed bytEe tem which evidence telling againtt each bdierV turned the flow and lfl jnto a mere eddy and now one paying 405 Clements t per per andthe parifh ofSt itrpngproofs only asaprpofpf their not havi was to drop part of dieir die odier were utfwiHuig to refuine it the faving his Lordfhip was die moft the mpft he ever knew introduced into a bill that a caufe of fo much confequence ftamld havebut fixmonths to DC tried in that the trial fhould be confined to one the Kingis JBenchf and be fore a whorcpuld npt be competent judges of the1 and Come into court fortifiedbyan aft in dieir were the be met in everii in yorft of times no damages were their property ready and even if die city obtained a Tter they in faft recovered nothing if theyjtpft their they were pf port every other fubjeci freely recpurfe to jury and another MsLordfliio fhould ever take that perfons who pad thefe trifling might npt claim a confidera tion for die deduction erections they liVd but fhould immediately give them up for the public good hb Lordfliip xi and itwjJsimpoffiWe Kad lafely oNE trial too had aftedvery far from all to far from to blame JbotiEv diat the fervice to die arid thdt nobody thd fs diree feparate claims tp enobankflient was the claim of the collegiate church of as tditlfecr grant of I pjy theprcperty of dieir fuch artittirHeyas well as dies who floke hadthe greateft fenfe ty of as of and he bk hoped the f M deed ie dioughti thejr hqble bfttrlif Jjoj bill tley were necefary for ibrcie was againft committin To be concluded in ianc eagerly many thearflamts made public the tickets and inbfciibed for and liens a Member of Parliament chufe ubjeft to fuchj influence as place Be ac of may have over his mindj they if they think a Member cepts a Igaery tickets is uftder fecretinflu ence that his know This man is uridSr thetinflofince ofthe as he accepts of when ever he votes againft iS die what liftanceof rinie It Adivifiori for die 3bbingj tof A Jbort account the the irifa THE have anfen thetredifjand3 of this kingdom by f flic practice Bfoiers making contraifts Agreements for the felling or ransferriirg of pr joint ic in contraoing agreeingj or oh whofe behalf thfe bntrcl or agreement was made to or transfer the was not at the time of making fuch agreem ffed or antoIiich It tiat after a limited jj ina i diefeveral provi f 4 i of the 7th p or on or transfer any c whereof fucfr perfiiris the agreement fhall not be pefieffeti of fliall for every fuch offence forfeit a fum to us rTr fJiA jtWoYtf Hull nialte ftpckj alio forfeit afuin die And that befide the penalty mentioned It allb all felliii fuch fft aid at any maU not a Jelivcr to tnc of die pejlbnvjpii whofe beKalf wife in the act nerfph fhall perlbri fhall be theri Bond A futoce or ifany f or thje every fuch meanjng Of isbepn ;