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Ada Evening News, The (Newspaper) - July 18, 1962, Ada, Oklahoma Clay Says Khrushchev Uses Berlin To Divide NATO Allies EDITORS: This is the first of a two-part series based on an ex- clusive interview with Gen. Lucius D. Clay. GEN. LUCIUS CLAY He Had Problem... By SAUL PETT Associated Press Writer President Kennedy's personal representative to Berlin feels So- viet Premier Khrushchev may be using that perennial crisis to sow fears and differences among the Western Allies and impede Euro- pean progress toward political unity. Gen, Lucius D. Clay, who com- manded the 1948-49 operation that broke the Berlin blockade, says he notes substantial improvement in West Berlin's situation at the moment and adds he sees no im- mediate change in prospect. But he cautions Khrushchev con- ceivably might risk war over the city, not because he wants free West Berlin that Badly; but be- i cause "he wants to destroy the [movement toward political unity in Western Europe." Clay, to many Germans a sym- bol of a U.S. promise not to aban- don West Berlin to communism, advanced his views in an exclu- sive and unusually illuminating interview in New York with The Associated Press, the first half of which follows in question and an- swering form. The second half of the interview will be presented Thursday. Q. You ar.e getting to be quite a commuter to Berlin aren't you, general? A. Well I hope I'll be lengthen- ing the time between visits, be- cause I think they are in a status quo there now. It could last for many, many months. Q. Why? A, Well in the first place the morale of the people in Berlin has withstood the wall and there is not much that the Communists can do to frighten Berlin short of those measures that would un- doubtedly lead to massive counter measures. The pin-pricks which they might exert against the Al- lies carried great risk. And they proved to be a failure in disturb- ing the Berliners. So I don't see what they have to gain out of tak- ing that risk. Q. Will your mission continue for the duration of the Berlin crisis? A. I don't think we know. The President has asked me to con- tine as an adviser and obviously i there is very little advice to give' as long as we stay in the position of status quo. As far as Berlin is concerned there has been a substantial improvement. Q. In what .way? A. Well the morale of the peo- ple has returned to normal and in fact I think they are probably more determined than ever to hold out. The economy of the city has recovered from the initial shock and looks like it is on the move again. Q. But. the basic situation as between the 'West and the Rus- sians? A. It remains unchanged and I don't see any immediate' change in prospect. Q. What do you suppose was behind Khrushchev's recent pro- posal, which we rejected, that Western troops in Berlin be re- placed by Norwegian-Danish or Belgian-Dutch plus Czech-Polish forces? A. I think Mr. Khrushchev would like very much to get the Allies out of West Berlin. The presence of the Allied troops there and the rapid development of the city has of course made it a veri- table citadel of freedom behind the Iron Curtain which he would like to destroy. Now this proposal, to replace the Allies with the troops of other nations, of course, doesn't make very much sense. We are in Ber- lin as a result of victory in war. Many of these nations -were not even in the war. There is no right to garrison Berlin per se.-The peo- ple of West Berlin cannot be made to accept garrisons from any and all countries. We have added to that a firm commitment to the people of West Berlin that as long as they want our troops there they will be' there. We couldn't give up on that commitment under any cir- cumstances. Q. Why do you suppose Khrush- (Continutd on Two) NIKITA KHRUSHCHEV Was It Babies Benefit From Astronaut Feeding System, Page Nine THE ADA EVENING NEWS Kids Loop Leader Keeps On Winning; See Sports Page 59TH YEAR NO. 109 ADA, OKLAHOMA, WEDNESDAY, JULY 18, 1962 10 Pages 5 CENTS WEEKDAY, 10 CENTS SUNDAY Big City Solons Nix Hanson Plan To Reapportion OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) Two lawmakers turned a cold shoulder Tuesday to a reapportionment plan pre- pared by assistant Atty. Gen. Fred Hansen to divide Tul- sa Oklahoma and Comanche counties into legislative districts. Hansen wrote Sens. Yates Land of Tulsa, Cleeta John Rogers of Oklahoma City and Fred Harris of Lawton and Reps Bryce Baggett of Oklahoma City and John McCune of Tulsa asking them to prepare proposed House and senate district boundaries of their counties. Hansen said he wanted to submit such plans to a spe- cial three-judge federal Airline Strike Settlement Looks Near WASHINGTON (AP) Nego- tiators appeared near settlement today of the 25-day, flight en- gineers strike against Eastern Air Lines. Representatives of the Flight Engineers International Associa- tion were reliably reported close to agreement on the basis of a company offer made to the union Tuesday. The airline, in making the offer said that if the union had not ac- cepted by 6 p.m. EOT today, the carrier then would seek to come to terms with individual engi- neers and try to put its grounded planes into the air. The main stumbling block to a settlement reportedly was the union's insistence on an ironclad guarantee from the government that if engineers took pilot train- ing, as the airline proposed, the government would prevent any forced inclusion of the engineers in the Air Line Pilots Association. The engineers were reported seeking a more precise guarantee along this line than the govern- ment had provided in a tentative settlement worked out for Trans World Airlines engineers. Other elements of Eastern's settlement offer to the striking en- gineers were reported acceptable to the union. The airline described its propo- sal as an offer "which requires specific time for its acceptance." court July 31. Both Land and McCune said they would oppose any plan to di- vide Tulsa County into legislative districts. They said they wanted no part of a ward system they believed legislative districts with- in the county would create. Both said they would prefer to have House and Senate members elected at large as they now are in Tulsa County. Baggett declined to comment di- rectly on Hansen's proposal. Bag- gett said he has been working with House Speaker J.D. McCarty on reapportionment plans and would submit suggestions to the Attorney General's office when they are completed. Harris said he would want to give further study to the district- ,ng plan before making any com- ment. The Lawton lawmaker said assumed that under Hansen's plan Comanche County senators would be elected at large. Hansen has already submitted to the court his plan for reappor- tioning the legislature. Look! PENTWATER, Mich. Law enforcement officials say they can't do much about com- plaints that four nude women have been driving about this western Michigan resort area in a station wagon. Please, police asked, the next time someone sees the women will they talte just a second io look at the license plate? Probers Uncover Bad Conditions At Prison McALESTER ing officials found equipment was obsolete and buildings were in poor condition at the women's ward of the state prison here Tuesday. "The general condition of the building and equipment is said Buck Cook, commissioner of Charities and Corrections who headed the probe. Cook and other officials were scheduled to continue questioning inmates today concerning facili- ties, treatment and prison activ- ities. Warden Robert Raines and "In the kitchen they have no Kennedy Rejects Red Edict WASHINGTON (AP) In words destined for Pre mier Khrushchev, President Kennedy is reported to have told the Soviet ambassador that the Soviet Union's de- mand for removal of troops from West Berlin is totally unacceptable. Kennedy met with Am- bassador Anatoly F. Dobry- nin for an hour Tuesday night in his office at the White House, They also dis- cussed Laos, disarmament and the problem of a ban on nuclear tests. Dobrynin said as he climbed into his limousine to return to his embassy, "It would be Improper for me to comment." President Intervenes Kennedy intervened personally in U.S.-Soviet talks on the Berlin situation in the.evident hope of overcoming any lingering belief in Moscow that the troops issue may be negotiable or that the United Rogers was out of the city and States would yet. yield to threats _i__i- _j j; nnn ann arrenr. some Army Takes Over In Peru To End Attempt At Compromise and pressures and accept some kind of compromise for West. Ber- lin's military protection. The President's move came two days before Secretary of State Dean Rusk leaves for Geneva where he plans to talk over the East-West Berlin stalemate with Soviet Foreign 'Minister Andrei A. Gromyko. The occasion for :heir gathering in Geneva will be the signing of accords on the neu- tralization of Laos. Position Reinforced The effect of Kennedy's action is to reinforce Rusk's position at a crucial stage of the U.S.-Soviet talks. The talks which began last Sop ;ember are deadlocked. There is .ittle .hope in official quarters that the deadlock can be broken in the predictable future. There .is some lingering hope that if Khrushchev fully understands U.S. determina- tion in support of West Berlin he may be willing to reach some agreement on what the diplomats call a "modus way of living with the situation without stirring up major crises periodi- cally. Stand Made Clear .It was authoritatively reported that Kennedy's main concern in the unusual. session with Dobry- nin was to emphaszie personally the importance he attaches to the U.S. position that the Soviet de- mand for withdrawal of U.S., Brit- ish and French troops from West Berlin is nonnegotiable. This demand has dominated the recent Rusk-Dobrynin talks at the State Department to such a de- gree that Rusk told a news con- ference last week that it was way to sterilize the. dishes. Also j blocking serious negotiations. the fans are not sufficient to cool it. It is very hot in there. "The laundry equipment and The Berlin issue has been dis- cussed several times in recent months by Khrushchev and U.S. the sewing room equipment are in i Ambassador .Llewellyn E. Thomp- bad shape. The sewing machines are obsolete and only three of 12 will work." Cook pointed out Raines has recommended that the legislature appropriate funds for a new wom- en's building and new equipment. He voiced agreement with the warden that this should be done. Assisting in the probe were Dud ul yluuc AJUU 11 matrons will be interviewed be- Lester assjstant to Cook, and fore a complete report is made. Cook said. After making a tour of the wom- en's quarter Tuesday, Cook said: "The equipment is obsolete. The wall of the building is cracked and water runs through the windows in certain parts of the building. The one book that can really tell you where to spend your vaca- Wendell Brawley, investigator for the state Board of Affairs. A statement made to Cook's of- fice by a former inmate, Mary Jane Herod, led to the investiga- tion. During the questioning of the in- mates, the Daily Oklahoman re- ported, there was both criticism and praise for the prison medical program. One inmate reportedly said neg- lect may have been a factor in a death at the prison. Another said the medical pro- gram was the only good aspect of rehabilitation at the prison. The inmates also criticized the tion'is your checkbook. of recreation and rehabilita- Gen. Fea. Corp.) jtion facilities. son Jr. Khrushchev, however, has shown no sign of dropping his campaign to get the- Western forces out of the isolated city. Coup Upsets Deal To Put Ex Dictator In Office; Troops Surround Palace LIMA, Peru (AP) Troops moved in on the govern- ment palace early today and seized President Manuel Prado in a military coup. The coup, climaxing weeks of crisis, was bloodless. Tanks and troops surrounded the palace, then Prado was taken away in a military vehicle. The military acted after charging that the June 10 presidential elections were fraudulent. A last minute political deal to swing the disputed presidency to former dicta- tor Manuel Odria failed.- The target of the army wrath was Victor Raul Maya de la Torre, controversial political fig- ure who ran first in the election but failed to get enough votes for MISS Ada" (Sharon Eclair) took off car for th. trip. Ada JaycetJ, of the local yesterday afternoon for Oklahoma City to take part in the pageant, Ecliir1! wardrobe and S100 for Oklahoma pageant to be held there !today through state contest. Miss Ada's accompanist, Mary Ann Kidwell, Saturday. She it shown here with her chaperone, Mrs. Austin is scheduler! to go to. the City Thursday. (News Staff Photo) Kidwell, as they loaded the last pieces of luggage into the ______________ __________________________ Optimism Rises In Francis That Water Woes Are Over By W. L. KNICKMEYER Francis citizens are eyeing their water supply nowadays with cautious optimism. Recent sand-fracturing opera- tions have increased the flow of water from 'city wells; a new pump of larger capacity has been acquired for one of the wells; the 'State Health Depart- ment is checking one well, which, if approved, will give the town three wells to draw on; and even as it stands now, the level in the water tank is slow- ly rising. "According to our pressure gauge, the tank is better than half full Don Eurkhead, city councilman, said Tuesday. "It indicates we're producing more water than we're using." Other councilmen also ex- pressed hopeful views. "It looks pretty Ernest Matthews said. And H. L. Kelley con- curred: "We've got plenty of water now." Actually, the Francis water problem has been complicated by a number of factors, some of them conducive to a certain amount of hard feeling among the citizenry. Sorest spot at the moment seems to be the line to the "old city wells northeast of town in the Canadian bottom. This line, no longer used to bring water to Francis (the health department didn't like those open is still connected to the system. People living along the three- mile line formerly were permit- ted to hook onto it for house- hold use, in return for ease- ments. However, when the town discontinued use of the river wells, the valve connecting the line to the system was shut off. At intervals since then, the valve has been found open; and since the beginning of the dry summer of '62, with Francis it- self hurting for water, the towns- people haven't taken kindly to the idea of having water from within the city limits piped out into the country. Even if there were plenty of water to go around, councilman Burkhead notes, the old line itself is a headache. It tends to develop leaks along its three- mile length. "We lost three tanks of water that way last Burkhead said. And since the line takes off across country, the only way to check it is to walk along, its length. So the town cut the line off. However, as late as Monday, Burkhead found the valve open again. Burkhead himself would like to'see the old line taken up, he says. But here another compli- cating factor enters the pic- ture: Francis has not had an elec- tion of city councilmen since about 1947. From time to time, from the remaining members appoint somebody else (Continued on Two) Swerve Into Parked Auto Nets Charge Ada Traffic Accidents 1962 to date ..............150 1961 to date ..............181 July, 1962, to date 13 July, 1961, to date ........21 the presidency. A leftist but anti-Communist, he long has been at odds with the army and other politicians. His Popular Revolutionary Alli- ance (APRA) agreed Tuesday to throw the presidency to the right- ist Odria, who was third in the voting. The military, however, appar- ently would not settle for such an arrangement although Odria is a conservative. Odria would need the support of Haya's forces in Congress, where the Odria and Haya groups would have a ma- jority. The newspaper El Comercio An Ada man said he swerved to miss a child and wound up side- swiping a parked car Tuesday morning, but he was charged by city police with reckless driving. Dr. Robert E. Cowling, 60, 630 West First, was driving in the 200 block of West Thirteenth when his car hit the side of a parked auto owned by Zora Davidson, 55, Route 3, Ada. Police said Cowling told them he swerved across the center of the pavement to avoid hitting a "kid." He pleaded not guilty to charges of reckless driving. Davidson was charged with improper parking. Three speeding charges were filed in Municipal Court against Ward E. Postman, 25, Wanda Jo 'Shores, 27, and Elwood Pitsen- It cost them each. Wayne D. Brown, 22, and Lester T. Vaughn, 56, were charged with public drunkenness.____________ said Prado, was taken to the naval base of San Lorenzo just off the coast at Callao, Lima's seaport. The constitution requires that congress choose the president from among the three top men in the election unless the high man gets one-third of the total vote. Haya fell votes short, Fernando Belaunde Terry came I second and Odria was third. The leftist APRA and the rightist Odrista Union together will -have a comfortable majority in the new the military lets it meet. After the APRA-Odria deal, out- going President Manuel Prado re- stored Premier Carlos Monreyra (Continued on Two) After Medicare Scuttling JFK Takes Aim At Coalition WASHINGTON Kennedy appears almost certain to hit the campaign trail this fall with a drive aimed at breaking up the-coalition bent on scuttling his program in Congress. A Republican-Southern Demo- cratic federation flexed its mus- cles in the Senate Tuesday and knocked into the ash can by a 52- 48 vote the Kennedy program for health care of the elderly financed through Social Security. support of 43 Democrats and five Republicans. Because he had tabbed this as the top issue in this year's elec- tions, Kennedy obviously was' more.angered by the Senate ac- tion than previous' defeats by a House coalition which killed his tight-controls farm bill and his plan to set up a department of ur- ban affairs. The President read to reporters at the White House a statement in The crucial countdown showed (which he said rejection of. his 31 Republicans and 21 Democrats j health care plan was "a most of them' I serious defeat for every American the Kennedy proposal. It got the i family." He 'added significantly: "We have to- decide in the congression- al election whether we want to stand still or support this legisla- tion for the benefit of the people." Assistant Senate Democratic Leader Hubert H. Humphrey of Minnesota translated this to mean that Kennedy personally will car- ry the fight to the people. "This will become the major is- sue of. the 1962 campaign and I expect the President will redouble his efforts for Humphrey said. Chairman John M. Bailey of the Democratis National Committee accused the Republicans of "reck- less partisan obstruction." He said in a statement: "This obstruction will be an important issue in this fall's campaign; The Republicans have shown clearly that they want this country to stop. President Kennedy and the Democrats want it to go. Senate Republican Leader Ever- ett M. Dirksen of Illinois said he doesn't fear the results of any such Democratic drive. He is a candidate for re-election. Nobody expected Kennedy to campaign against any Democrat His sights, then, would'be set on the defeat of a dozen Republicans who opposed his plan and are seeking election. This list includes Sens. George D. Aiken of Vermont, Wallace F. Bennett of Utah, Joseph S. Bottum Jr. of South Dakota, Homer Cape- hart of Indiana, Frank Carlson and James B. Pearson of Kansas, Norris Cotton and Maurice J. Murphy of New Hampshire, Dirk- sen, Bourke B. Hickenlooper of Iowa, Thruston B, Morton of Ken- tucky and. Alexander Wiley of Wis- U.S. Desires Peace, Ike Tells Europe NEW YORK (AP) Former President Dwight D. Eisenhower said in a shipboard interview to- day that he would carry abroad a message that the United States wants peace, but will not ba pushed around. He talked with newsmen as ha and his wife and two grandchil- dren prepared to sail for Europe on the Queen Elizabeth, It is his first trip abroad as a private citizen since 1928. Eisenhower and his family plan to visit England, France, Den- mark, Germany, Sweden and Cul- zean Castle near Prestwick, Scot- land, in which, the British govern- ment has allocated him space for life. He will address a teachers con- ference, at Stockholm on July 3L "I hope to carry to such a body the message that we are trying to produce peace, that we are ready to be conciliatory, but not to be pushed Eisenhow- er said. Interviewed in the huge vessel's veranda cafe, the former Presi- dent said he believed most Amer- icans are "fine ambassadors of American hopes and aspirations abroad." The Eisenhowers plan to sail for home from Cobh, .Ireland, on Aug. 24 aboard the liner America. Huge Balloon Bounces 950 Miles Into Space CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) -The largest space vehicle ever sent aloft a balloon which in- flated to the height of a 13-story building was rocketed 950 miles above the Atlantic Ocean today as a forerunner of an advanced Echo communications satellite. The gleaming- silvery sphere, dubbed "Big provided a brief but spectacular show for ground observers in the Cape Canaveral area as it separated from the Thor booster, .expanded to its full 135-foot diameter, and drifted across the predawn sky. It was visible for nearly 10 min- utes .before becoming obscured by haze and cloud. Today's shot.was to determine whether 'the balloon would expand and hold its form after being sent aloft. There were no communica- tions tests. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration announced success -of the mission, which paves the way for launching a similar balloon into orbit later this year as the Echo n experi- mental communications satellite. After rising to 950 miles the bal- loon plunged back and burned up asintended in the earth's atmos- phere. Death of the sphere oc- curred, about 23 minutes after the a.m. launching, some 800 miles south of the cape. A television camera mounted in the head of the Thor booster rock- et sent live pictures of the bal- loon inflation to a monitor on the Cape. Officials reported they were of excellent quality and clearly showed the inflating of the balloon after it was released from a can- ister in tlie nose of the Thor. Recovery craft waited about 250 miles northeast of San Salva- dor to try to pick up films made by a -movie camera aboard the rocket that also recorded the in- flation process. High temperature In Ada Tuesday was 98; low Tuesday night, 70; reading at 7 a. m. Wednexiay, 71. ;