Trades Free Press, April 19, 1828

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April 19, 1828

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Trades Free Press (Newspaper) - April 19, 1828, London, Middlesex " THEY HELPED EVERY ONE HIS NEIGHBOUR, AND EVERY ONE SAID TO HIS BROTHER, BE OF GOOD COURAGE."-Isaiah, xll. 6. VOL! III. No. 145. SATURDAY EVENING? APRIL 19, 1828. PRICE Td. THE SPORTING PAPERS. BeWs Life in London, a Paper in wide circulation amongst the working-classes of the country, has in this night's Paper appropriated 26 Jines tu the subject of .Friendly Societies, and 1\ columns to accounts of Fights and Sporting. The folio-wing is one of its articles (probably a paid for paragraph) designed without �doubt as a quietus on this subjeet. If Mr. Courtenay, or Mr. Portman with his authority, had made any such statement, the Parliamentary Reporters would hare noticed it.-There is no truth in the statement. " Friendly Societies.-Mr. Portman said In the House of Commons on Friday night, that the intention �respecting these Societies was merely to consolidate the existing laws for their regulation, and that the retrospective clause would be abandoned." Bell's Weekly Dispatch, another Paper supported by �the industrious classes, defends Mr. Couhtenay's Bill, and thus closes an article of half a column on the subject of the Petition against it:-"But if we were to hazard a conjecture, we would say, that these Petitions ex?' press not so much the reluctance of the members composing Fviendly Societies, to submit to the proposed regulations, as the objections of officebearers, speech-makers, innkeepers, and busy meddlers, to be deprived of their gains, or stripped of their importance." COURT OF KING'S BENCH.-This Dat. Assault.-Lothbury v. East. This was an action by a carcass-butcher, of White-chapel, against a publican, of the same neighbourhood, for an assault. 'x'> A person, named Steadman. stated that he was,^ft company with the plaintiff in November 1826, at the defendant's house, where he and several other persons were taking fthcir luncheon. There was a good deaf were in the room. Tho pUintHKV.^n^ �o#i#d rly the whole of the water otl; Uie -who were in the room. Tho plaint nearly the wl head, was severely scalded. ' This &as the''aVsautt' b?' Mr. Brougham, who appeared for the defendant, excited a good deal of merriment by the manner in wljloh he cross-examined the witness, it was attempted tp be shewn, that the plaintiff himself wa_s the flrst ag�fcj�0r, by throwing his hat 'ih''thQ^^^^6..{S'sh'^)i9''Vr^nt the witness stated* that ftfwks he (witness) wbo'.di4 so, and that the hat was afterwards put up the chimney, and the plaintiff was joked by the company about its being made a chimney-pot of, Lord Tenterden suggested, that Is, damages would meet the justice of the case, which was acceded to by the Jury, who returned a verdict accordingly, by which each party pays his own costs. TO THE EDITOR OF THE TRADES' FREE PRESS. Sir.-I am directed to forward yon a Copy of ,'tbe Resolutions adopted at a Meeting of the representatives of Friendly Societies, held here yesterday ; in them you will observe a vote of thanks to you, tor the Valuable information you have furnished on this subject I have great pleasure and satisfaction in communicating the same, and being present can testify to the cordial and hearty manner in which this motion was unanimously carried ; it is certain that but for your exertions, this town would have known nothing of Mr. Courtenay or, his Bill. I take the opportunity of forwarding you a Report of the proceedings of our Meeting, which shall be glad to see inserted. Hoping that this obnoxious mensure may be ultimately defeated, and that your Paper may increase in circulation, and receive that support it so irichly merits, I am, your obedient humble servant, ANTHONY WHITAKER, Secretary to the Jubilee Society. Sheffield, April 16, 1828. ment wished then to seize upon the property of Friendly Societies. It appeared plain to him that Government had no such intention. This act empowered the magistrates to raise the rate of contribution, in order to enable the Clubs to continue their payments. As for tho Trustees, the new Bill provides that they may be removed from from their office by the magistrates. The speaker concluded by observing, that he saw nothing objectionable in Mr. Courtenay's Bill. Mr. j. Ward said, the last speaker appears to be altogether bewildered; he sees nothing objectionable in transferring the power over the Clubs from the masters and wardens, who are interested in their prosperity, to magistrates and trustees, who have no concern in them, lie would, in efi'ect, have us to become the slaves' of those who might happen to be placed over its. No wonder that the county rates are become so intolerable a burden, and that it is found necessary to enlarge prisons. Mr. Ward was here interrupted by the Chairman desiring the speaker to keep to the subject of the Bill, as there would not be time for more to be said than was necessary, on which he resumed his seat. Mr. Adams observed, that he could see no benefit to be derived from the new Bill: the present Act empowers trustees. It was his opinion, that all that Parliament could do to Benefit Friendly Societies, was to provide effectually for the enforcing of the payments of contributions and other debts due to them. He conceived that in Sheffield, there were 15,000 persons among the working classes connected with these Societies , they, and not honorary members, ought, therefore, to have the control of their funds. There was no arbitration clause in the new Act; in consequence of which all disputes would have to be settled by the magistrates. Under the proposed Bill, clubs would be burdened with innumerable fees and other expenses, which would prove the utter ruin of many, who even now find difficulty in meeting the just claims made upon them. This is the proffered boon, and these are the blessings held out to us. The Chairman hoped, that there might be no alter cations, but1 that they would keep to the merits or demerits pf the,proposed Bill. !$SIJember said, that if the MasW, Wardens, and Mem bers of the Friendly Societies, were unable to conduct themselves, he was confident that no persons could be found competent to do it for them A-Member said, it appears to me to be essential to the prosperity of Friendly Societies, that their expenses, exclusive of what is paid to sick members, should be as small as possible. It has already been observed* that the affairs1 of all Societies ebb and flow. I have known clubs obliged to give up and divide what little there was left; and what has been the cause of this? The lessening of the numbers b'ydejjth, without, their being replaced by young' ones; arid the money which they had laid up in more prosperous times not being sufficient for their increased demands. However poor, then, the members may be, the intended regulations would compel them to pay increased contributions ade quate to the demand, or subject them to the seizure of their property. Shall this be allowed in England where the rights of man are so well known, and so universally acknowledged? There may, perhaps, be among the remnant of the expiring club, a few persons in comfortable circumstances. Is it just, I ask, that these, besides the disappointment of their expectations 'from the club funds, should also suffer the loss of thei own property ? It can.-iot be ; and I think, the proposed Bill would prove extremely hurtful and injurious. Mr. Harrison, thought it his duty to make some re marks on the Bill, which had found its way into th Mouse of Commons, and unless stopped by the voice of the people, would become a law. He felt happy in addressing so respectable an assembly he was sine that there was no class of his Ma to 60, without any occasion, they would occasion a loss of 20. I do not say that they would do so, but it would not be safe to trust them ; there may be a friend to oblige, or other and more powerful inducements may {)resent themselves, and we all know something of in man nature: our Legislators too have not always proved themselves very wise, and the loss they meddle in our domestic policy the better. The man who would let such a measure as this pass Avithout opposition, ougty to live under the Pacha of Egypt, or the Dey of Algiers. * Mr, Leek, in rising to mote the second Resolution, begged to request every one present not to neglect to sign the Petition. Mr. Kay seconded the Resolution. Mr. Sutton, in moving the third Resolution said, that any remarks of his would but weaken the effect which the Resolution was calculated to produce Mr. Lynn seconded it, who observed, they had had recourse to arbitration oftener than to the magistrate, because the latter always manifested a disposition to invade their privileges. The fourth and fifth Resolutions were moved and se^ conded by Messrs. Shaw, Hopkins, Slngg, and'Petty. Mr. Latham in rising to propose the 6th Resolution, did ft with great pleasure,'and in a full confidence that the Meeting would enter into the spirit of it, from beginning to end. When a person enters into a Sick Society/he of course expects to have, some influence in the direction of its affairs ; but this bill says you shall not have the management of funds which you yourselves have raised, for they shall be vested in trustees. I would ask, are we lunatics ? No, I should be more inclined to retort the charge upon Mr. Courtenay. Though the intention of some trustees might be good, it would not bo so with all. They are to have the power to Vest the money in the funds, on mortgage*, or even to apply it to their own private purpose. Could SHEFFIELD FRIENDLY SOCIETIES. On Tuesday last a very numerous Meeting of the Masters, Wardens, and others connected with various Friendly Societies, in this town, was held in the great room of the George Inn. The Meeting was opened by Mr. Latham, who, after stating that they had been called together by the Committees of the Royal Jubilee and Fitzwilliam Societies, for reasons with which those present would shortly be >Biade acquainted, proposed that Mr. Oglesby take the Chair; which being unanimously carried, The Chairman read the printed advertisement, and said the above-named Committees had been induced to take this step, by their concern for the interests of their own Clubs in common with those of others; not by a desire to appear forward and meddlesome, but because they had reason to believe that they were in possession of information not in the hands of others. Their attention had been directed to a Bill introduced by Mr Courtenay, and now in progress through the House of Commons, entitled, " An Act to Consolidate the Laws relative to Friendly Societies;" by the Reports of other Meetings, and statements which had appeared in the Trades' Free Press newspaper. They, in conse quence, procured an Abstract bf the Bill, which ap peared, to them so objectionable as to warrant and de t mand immediate opposition. But before any thin^more jwas said, he would request Mr. Sutton to read the ab ' * �tract. , The abstract having been read, the'Chairman said, '.� that he should be glad to hear any person who might wish to express his opinion, before the Resolutions which had been prepared for the Meeting were read. Mr. Arnold, as representative of the Prince o "ales' Society, thought there was no ground for ap prehending that the proposed Bill would be injurious He remembered that a similar outcry had beenraised aoaiustan act in 1794; and it was said, that Govern GENERAL MEETING OF THE SONS OF HUMANITY BENEFIT SOCIETY. A very full Meeting of the Members of this Society was held at the Half-moon and Seven Stars, Staghope-strect, Clare-market, on the 14th instant. Mr. Gibson having been unanimously called to the Chair, briefly stated the object for .which tho Meeting had been convened. They were perfectly aware that Mr. Courtenay had introduced a But into the House of Commons, which, if passed into a law, would prove the destruction of all Friendly Societies. A number of Resolutions had been prepared, and a Petition founded upon them. These were in the possession .of'Mr. Russell, and he now called upon tliatigejitleman to ad-' dress the Meeting. .. "'.t'V Mr. Russell rose amidst great applause, an^-.r/othted out, with his accustomed tpnuterteM^aJidj^ergy, the obnoxious clauses of the .proposed Bffl^;'The motives of Mr. CoUrtenay in Introducing su^h a measure were" two-fold.' On tfie one hand, ho sought lor patronage; and on the other, he wished to. promote' the national ltl-stitutions of whreh he was the founder, .'by, crushing every other Society. In the former case he tfould have the appointment of clerksi toi whomrfees' w,eli& rto;'be paid for transacting the Societies' business; and'in the latter, he would accomplish the object he had so unceasingly pursued for a number of years. [Mr. R, then proceeded to detail tho various movements of Mr. Courtenay, from the year 1919 (the period when he'e^ri^d his first bill through the House) to the present time',} In the year 1825 Mr, Courlenay obtained a Committee, who, after examining a number of scientific men* i njfen who were considered the first mathematicians ih the country, respecting a table of calculations for,'the'guidance of Friendly Societies, were'uhnble to come,ttyutiy determination upon the subject. Ih the year, 1027,, Mr. Courtenay again stepped into the Houso of Commons, and asked for another Committee, pledging himself to private purpose any Frieiidly Society exist under such a law? If it were already passed, I would say, go home and divide follow it up, by introducing a Bill to Carry into effect the funds. But while there is hope, unite heart and hand, whatever that Committee might deem.neqossary.; From the moment this intention was made known, a number of Delegates, apprehensive of the dangerous consequences likely to result from Mr. Courtenay's'proceedings, assembled every week to ascertain their true nature; and when the Bill made its appearance, ir con J firmed aH their fears. Mr; Russell then' narrated the hope, pocket and club-box, to oppose it to the utmost; Seconded by Mr. Hawksley. Mr. Littlewood said, that after the eloquent speech of the mover of the sixth Resolution, it was unnecessary for him to say much in proposing the seventh Resolution. He called upon those present, as men of experience, to speak out and let their Legislators know that proceedings ofthe Delegates, arid concluded h^^senr-they were competent for the management of their own ihg, that a 1 ael;iiri!(afihXP� tfr�^e^ iw&as business^ it was his provineo,te'ft*; i}ppn the treasurer, he might Seconded by Mr. Walker. appoint another lawyer to fill the duties of that jbfRce. Mr. Walker thought that the addresses which had These two lawyers ^ been deUyered, had lpft but little for him to say. He mediately cominanco legal proceedings ogatot each, appeaP^ Jo him to be the ittj^|# "1 Goye�$8�^tni interferoi�;'tWpL .,,iV, ,,, , . . 9?c\etW and they were carried with loud applause. ^ A Petition, founded on these Resolutions* was then read and unanimously adopted. ,; ' Votes of thanks having been passed to the Editor and Proprietors of the Trades* Free Press,' audit) the Ch'ai|-inan, the Meeting separated. , / \ GENERAL MEETING OF- TIfE FRIENDLY SOCIETIES OF ROCHJSSTEJi AND THE riciJviTY. ; � ryA > A numerous and respectable Meet^^''b^-/^|il(|ii8-' Friendly Societies was held on th�'10li|(Ajii|)if:�M|b Five Bolls, Rochester, pursuant to $nbl\W$MX*0titioithem!tb,break up FORTSMO'lL^-- . v . � � ______v.,s -.,,.,-.,,.T,_v^,-----,c the St. Tliomp'S Amicable Society, instituted at the those Societies tbrbugb. ^^JW^li|(Xe^]^Q^liely Re'd Lion InnJSt. Thomas's-street, Portsmouth, held a in times of affliction, andlfe^i j^jj$nlijfa$rwi tho neo^S-Meeting, to take into consideration the propriety of pe- sity of flying to a workhou�q,;f.or, refuge., . . I'titioning ParliaVrien^ against Mr. Courtenay's Bill. Mr. ' i , JjfSlBiPki���'.^'�'v >, H.Baker having been unanimously called to the Chair, JNbwport, oouth .nrAI*KS.--r* ..take the opened the Business ipf the Meeting in a neat and appro- liberty, Sfliys a Correspondent, of .addressing you, to priate speech, pointing out the advantage Benefit So- inform yo\i that;^the Members of the Union Benefit cieties had enjoyed |y managing their own affairs, and Society, held at the Carpenters' Arms, in this towp, * " had, a Meeting on the 14th instant, and determined to, petition, but beg to befaroiired with a copy of: the B;"" by return of the mail, I have received a, commuhf^ tion from a Benefit' Society in Monmouth, w sent a petition. They have resolved, if the Bj*l to break up at once and divide the Funds. lath , my friend says they owe all their information' , obnoxious Bill to the Trades' Free Press, .s.......-ja also the flourishingj1ate( of the finances ofthe Society; and concluded by animadverting strongly on tho disadvantages Benefit Societies" would incur by the passing ofthe present rigid and obnoxious Bill, so foreign to rthe English code of laws. . A series of Resolutions ' w(jrb' proposed and adopted, and a .petition founded thereoii, expressive ofthe Society's disapprobation of ! the Bill. v 4 ;