London Lloyd Evening Post, May 24, 1797

London Lloyd Evening Post

May 24, 1797

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Issue date: Wednesday, May 24, 1797

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Lloyd's Evening Post (Newspaper) - May 24, 1797, London, Middlesex f 497 J LLOYD'S EVENING-POST, Vol. LXXVITI.] From WEDNESDAY, May 24, to FRIDAY, May 26, 1797. [Numb. 6202. Thursday, May 25. PARLIAMENTARY INTELLIGENCE. HOUSE of LORDS. Wednrfday, My 24. � HE Houfe heard Coonfel, ifi tbe caofe of Gib/bo agaioft A. Wright and others, when, after hearing the opinion of the Lord Chancellor, the Decree of the Court was affirmed, with 2Oot.'. a-d 30I. id.-- 30! - 50I. 4'.. � 5c!.--10 I. 61. - 100 . -2col. A SfaTip Dury of 2d. 01 r.vejn 40-. and five gu'neas; and bi twe-n five guineas an) 3d. 4d. A Sump Duty of Sd. on Promiflory Notes on Demand a'.>ov- a col. A Stamp Dury of 61. upon any Grajjt of Office or Employment abjve 100I. p*r annum. army ADDITIONAL PAY. The Houfe refolved itfelf into a Committee of Supply, Mr. Hobart in the Chair. The -ECRETAay at War, in calling the attention of r.he Committee to : the ftate of the Aimy and Militia of the kingdom, faid they were already in fome degree apprif.d that there was, or at leaft foon would be, a neceflity for increafing the pay and allowance of the different cLiiTes composing this fervice. Since the pre-fent eftablilhment was made, there was certainly a great advance in the price of almoft every neceffary article of life; and, notwithftanding th* various advantages of living in large bodies, and uniting for the purchafe of provifions, /till, before the addition of what was called bread-money, granted about five years fince, it was confidered as matter of wonder how a private foldier could fubfift. 1 Within a ftiU later period good effects had > been produced.by the better regulation and application of their means, and fince the late fear- ; city their condition was further amended by the Government allowance for bread and meat.: This he expiated to be furnifhing the foldiers F demly of this, fuch advantages as may belon?" with thefe articles at a fixed rate, and paying the difference between that and whatever mighf ] be the current Jfrice of them. The expence it> the public from this operation was neceffarify fluctuating, but to the lefs extent, as Govern mem could go to market and contract on better terms than the foldier*.Qu the whole, however, it appeared, that fomeihihg ftill was wanting. *Pfce eceflity indeed was apt immediately prefl"-ing, bat was no*^refor$�he Ws evident, for not being determined by smfumftancevrof em-barraffment foreign to that neceflity. There was alfo another branch of the military fervice which claimed fimilar attention, a claim that was not weakened, becanfe it was not irregularly brought forward by the p*rthr> themfelvfs. In deed, when all circumlt-inces were confidcred, i was no fm:.H degree of merit in the Army to have been even btamels&throughout fome recent tranfa (ions, while the feilors of the fl*et, always the darlings of their country, conducted themletves in a manner fo inconfift-nt with their general character, and even yet continued^ prefs without moderation or bounds on the generofity of a patient and indu gent public. Their merit was tti&re highly enhanced by the recollection that the pay of the Army was its daily fubfif-tence ; and that the activity- and extent !0f thofe diabolical. Jacobinical arts, which unhappily were too fuccefeful with the Fleet, had totally f ;iled upon the Military. The foldiers were all along Ilea J y to their duty. Some of them brought forward their feducers, and others rejected their temptations with fcorn and indignation. Having continued for fome time his eulog-ium on the fidelity of the troops, he remarked that the condition of the Subalterns was alfo defer-ving of consideration It was a fubject which occupied his attention previous to the mention of it by an Hon. Member in that Houfe. But the fame confidtrations which induced him to wave the dilcullion at that time, obliged him alfo to detatch ii from the motion he had now to propofe. It was a queftion which required fome examination and detail, but fhould not experience any unnecefldry delay. It muft however be underrtood, that the additions pro-pofed were not meant to extend b.yond the fubalterns and troops of the line. After this he pr >ceeded to ftate the proportions he had to fubmit. According to the regulations already fubfift-lng, what was called a good foldier coft the public in pay and allowance i i{d. per day, but by the augmentation it would coft 1 i. 1 |d. This would make the addition to the public expence |d. per day for each man, bat by proper regulations a distribution would be made of as much value to the foldier as 2d. per day. In addition to this, the expenditure of hi* money would be more in his o* n hands. He then defcribed the five modes of appropriation already eltabiifhed, bd. fubfiltence-money, and what went under the le of consolidated allowance i�d. ; id. bread, rd. meat, and the remainder in cafh. from touching fome of the ferious points fpoken of by the Right Hon. Gentleman. It* was by no  means his intention to object, to the addition now propofed for the Army, or to the quantity of it,  having been 1 long convinced that its pay- and t allowance were too fmall. In confequence of repprts circulated on this fubjeft, he fome time fince fuggefted the propriety of laying on the table of the Houfe >e minute of the prderly-book of the Brigade1 of Guards, refpedling the intention of Government to increafe their pay and allowance. +rat that time, it was hinted to him acrofs the table, that no fuch official minute was made upon >the Orderly-book, which information, upon fubfe-quent inquiry, he found to be correct."' Oa lalt, Monday ie'nnight however, an official com* ' munication was made from the Subaltern O'ffi* cers to the Privates of the Gaards, which he ' read in his place. The fubftance of it was, -that on the recommendation of his Royal> High-nefs the Commander in �. hief, and in confequence of their uniform good conduct-, it was  under cotifJcration to make-their conditiotv-more -; comfortable. He admitted that no perfon wa^more projrer ' to make fuch recommenJatio-i than; the Commander in Chief; and as he did not difpate the.^�/-form gMJ cotiduS of the men, he was at a lofs to  find any urgent reafon for making this1 declaration to them before the meafure was fubmitt�d I to Parliament. When it was faid to be under -confederation, he was equ illy at a lofs to know ' whofe/confide ration was meant, for tbe fubject was not then before the Houfe of Commons, . which alone was competent- to give it effect. . Parliament was= indeed placed io a very ftrangc? tituation. Jcfs to obtain no fhare of gratitude' nr thanks; for all acts of favour and grace were : taken out of their hands, and the merit of-them : aflumed by the Minifters of the Crown. . They' were further placed in the awkward predicament " of deliberating upon a meafure which regarded the Arniy, and upon which a prwnife had pre- [Pj-iee Fourpence-Halfpenny.] ;

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