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   General Evening Post (Newspaper) - December 7, 1790, London, Middlesex                                WEDNESDAY, Dec. 8. /Vvm #&* Xondok Gazette. Whit.ebaIi., Dec. 7. HE K^ng has been pleafed to appoint Alex. Shaw, Efqj to be Lieutenant-Governor of the ^fle of Man* in the room of Colonel Richard Dawibn, who retires. Admiralty~OfficuI>:kf %. !fO.;| "This day, in puriuanee of '-�* the King's pleafurer bis* Royal Highnefs William Hsnry Duke of Clarence,. Captain in his Majefty's Navy, was promoted to the rank of Rear-Admiral of the Blue fquadron of his Majefty*s fleet. Jdmirelty-Qjfict, , . .   ___Af. 7�   His  Majefty Jias been pleated to make the following promotion in the corps of Marines, viz. MAJORS John Perceval, Charlea jAckman, .3 To be tlEUTENANT.-COLrN�l*S/v CAPTAWS'.;,^5^ Richard Bright, '  . Alexander M'Bdnald* "H Benjamin, yte'it, Richard ^impjbn, Bartholomew Williams, * Sam&el Stranfcam, William Conyers, To be MAJ6RS. �k/atrial, Nov.ii.  The late accounts received here from Oran, Hate, that (hocks, of earthquake continued to be felt there till the zgth of October, and that there then remained ftanding of the town and fortifications only a part of the exterior Walls.   The number of perfons who perifhed by -this calamity is ertimated at upwards of two fcbou-irjclu at three, at the Hen and Chidjcea^,. Aftqn-ftrett, Binrdngham.  *    >� . Thomas Chapman, of Croydttrtjf "Surrey^ miller, mealaao, and baker; Jan. 6, at eleven, at Guildhall, London. Richard Tine, now of MaBaeH-raw, .Liaht,. Ta*rer-biH, Middkfex, but late of Whjte-hart-court, Betnoadfcy-^ejet, Southwark, Surrey, taylory Jan. 6, at ten, GofidhaH, London. ',    Benjamin Prince, late of Leeds, YwklhV,^ine mer-^i chant i Dec. x% at tour, at the Old KAng's-arms, Leed*. Final Dividend* Dividend adjourned. Jofeph Morton, of Lime-ftreet, Fenchurch-ftreet, London, rum and brafedy merchauti Jan. 29, at five, at Guildhall, London. Certificates to be granted. Richard farmer, late of Newbury, Berkihire, cabinetmaker j on or before Dec. z8. Martin Bailey, of Wapping, Middlefex, fiul-maker j on orifefore Dec. a8. John Reilfey, late of Church-ftraet, Deptford, Kent, pawn-broker} on or before Dtc. a8. Edward Lowe, of Whitecrofs-ftreet, London, turner; on before "Dec* aS. 1-.tmt James'Scott, of V/idegate-alley, in the City of London, cheefemonger ^ to furrender Dec. 15, 17, andJan. fvrelve, at Gnildhall, London.   Attorney, Mr. Bag|ey, CM � Gravel-lane, Ratclffe Highw.ny. Akxander Reed, late of Oid Bond-ftreet, Middlefcx, hofiet; to furrender Dec. 11, i�, and Jan, 18, at ten, at Guildhall, London. Attornies, MeiT. Shawe and PhiGiys, Bt*dye-ftrest, Chatham-place. James Richmond, of Church-lane, Whitechapel, Middle-t,  cooper; to furrender D�:t. 11, 22, and Jan. i*,at Mr. Davies, Litllc St. ten, at Guildhall, Lonjon.   Attorney, Helen's,' Bifliopfgate-ftreet, London. Thomas Barron, of Jermyn-ftrcet, Mtddlefer, money-fcrWener ; to furrender Dec. 18, ai, and Jan. iZ, at ten, at Guildhall, London. Attorney, Mr, Armcfley, New Bridge-ftreer, Blackfriars, London. John Boftock, of Mancheftcr, Laflca/Jiire, Jciiier; to fur. render Dec. 14, 49, and Jan. 18, at twe, at the Britannia Inn, Mancbefter.   AttornieSi Mr. Pugh, Manchefter,  or Mr. Foulkcs, Kart-ftrect, Bi6o:nflsury. Dividends to be made Thomas Arnett, of Bafing-lane, London, glover; Jan. 22, at eleven, at Guildhall, London. John Armitaee, of Sirver-ftreet, Golden-fquw, Middle-jk*t upholder; Jan. 24, at five, at Guildhall, Lonvl-jnw Final Dividend. James Allan and James Brymer, of Little Bell-rJley, Cole-man-ftreet, in the City of London, merchants and partners, Jan. fi, at twelve, at Guildhall, ho dnn.   Final Divi>nd. William Crutwelt, of Sheib>rnc, Dorfetftiire, printer and biokfeHer j Jati. 5) at ten, at Guildhall, London. Final Dividend. - ' Mary Ann J.^kfon, of Ludgase~bi!l, Lor.dnn, lace merchant j Jan. 1at ten, at GuildluU, London, vidend. Final Di- S H I P - N E W S. Deal, Dee. 6. Came down, and failed, the King George, �T-> for Cjiwles-Town , Mevcntie, Thorp, "mr Cib'ral-arj Aurora, Laurie, and Woodley, Anthorn, for Cork. Ajjaved his Majefty's mips Carys.fort, Caftor, and Hufliu } and remain with the Dictator and Southampton, and Meer-wyk, Grooningen, for Bativia.   Wnd N: N.  pre* fanted iome papers at th* Bar. The bill ior employing eoftviiis was brought in, and read a firft and fecond time. Leave was given to bring lit feveral road bills, and two Members were fworh in. Mr. Gi&crt reported the votes of fupply granted yejterdav; and The Speaker having put the queftion upon the refolution of the Committee, to allow 4^,000 Teamen, including marines, for" the naval lervice of next year, Mr. Fax refe and obfcrved, that he could not think of agreeing to this refolution, without making a few remarks, efpecially ts he had heard frpm an Hon. Gentleman, not now in his place (IVlr. Pitt), that the King's Minifters meant, in Hating the expences necelfary to be provided for, to make a clear difUn&ion between ;hat which was incurred entirely in confequence of tlae late armament, and that which was to be the current ex-pence of the year, having no conneftion whatever with the charges of the armament.  But this, if he was to judge from the refolution before them, if no farther explanation was given by thofe who knew thefecrets of Government, and who only coul J give fuch information, was not meant to be done. Mr. Fox faid, he believed his oppofition ought more properly to have been made yefteriay ; but as he and many other gentlemen wer� abfent on Saturday, when notice was given that thefe efti-mates were to be moved on Monday, he knew nothing of the matter till to-day, and he could produce many refpeciable vvitneffes in the Houfe that would join with him in faying, that it was by no means the general idea amongft the Mem-bsr>, that fuch a motion would come on fo early. He faid, that to give a vote for fo great an iiv-creafe, as from 18,000, the laft peace eltablifh-ment, to 24,000, as now propofed, without being polfefied of fuificient and fatisfaftory infbrma-tion as to the nece.Tity of that extraordinary burthen upon the country, would be afting incon-filtently with the duty which every Member owed to his constituents, and what he would never be guilty of.   fcfo man was a warmer advocate for a liberal confidence in the King's Minifters for the time than he was, well knowing that there might very propeily be fecret motives for their conduct, which the fafety of the ftate required to be kept from the.knowlege of the public ; at the fame time, he thought that the Houfe had an undoubted title, as truilees and guardians of the public treafure, to every information relative to its expenditure, that could be obtained without endangering the fafety of the Hate, by harrafling Minifters to difclofe what ought to remain fecret. -What he plainly and fimply wifhid to know he (hoald Hate thus: Firll, Whether from the prefent . jamti Brickrlt, late of ShjrffcfburN', Dorftribirt* fituation of this country, and the general ihte of j teen moved' vci Europe, his MijcOy's>^hi#efsconfid�red it to | JftoadayV polic^oflfiis couotry t� kee'p �p eater naval e/febtffliftient than was formerly _ itt'tvae of peace? Or fecondly, Whether it waft intended eatirely to alter the former fyltem, amt to make a jMrmanent increafe of the peace eftablimmem f4~pn the firltpoiot he could notfay that he was incluted to argue now, becaufe he was not in poffeffion of feci fufficient information as his Ma>efty*iiMinifters mulr>be, from their official fittrtiions; h* was foxry he" did no.t fee the Right Hon. Gentleman in his place, but he faw others /mawrialfy cohnetted with the-.naval, department^' hrrhe made no doubt were able to anfwer him P^(j�By. As to the fecond point, he certainly .would not vote for any increafe of the peace ella-Mifhment that muft bring e, permanent additional burthen upon the country; his confcie nee dictated tc him that he ought to make this enquiry, and h* trufted he {hould have an explicit anfwer, otherwife he could not vote for the refolution now moved. Mr. Hopkins faid, that when he made the mo-tioB yefterday, he had exprefsly dated that it was not meant as a permanent increafe of the naval. ellablilhment; and Uad lisewife mentioned, that  in all_ probability the ten additional fhips would be paid off in the courfe of a few months, and thofe in the Weft Indies upon their return, which might alfo be foon expected, and the country would then be relieved of the additional expence; fo it clearly was of a temporary, not a permanent nature. Mr. Fox replied, that what had been faid by the Hanourable Gentleman was exactly what he underlbod him to have faid the day before ; but that was not a ^Mfwfactory anfwer to the queftions he had put. Ir\ however, he was to undcrftand from the Honourable Gentleman, that this expence was only neceflary till fuch time as we could get rid of thofe men whom we were to difcharge, he could not think of voting an eftabiifhnK-nt for the whole year, which was only neceflary for a few months ; as it would burthen the country with a heavy charge, for an eftablifhment which they derived no bene/it or fervlce"from. He again ftated his wifli to be, that Miniiters would give a diltinft and feparate account of what was the actual expenditure occafioned by the late armament, from what was requifite as the charges for the current vear. Mr. Roji aflured the Right Honourable Gentle rQ.T thg >bfe�ce-.^^tiob'o"f'     '\ to lay before Parliament a full and particular acr coaiit of every expence that attended the arfna-oieoi, uhconneflea with, and feparate from, the iliuutes of the current year. Mr. Fox fpoke a few words in explanation, during which time Mr. Pitt came in. The Chancellor of the Exchequer faid, he regretted that he had not come in earlier, bat believed from what he had heard, that he .might be able to give the Hon..Gentleman a fatisfaiftory and explicit anfwer; he understood that the Right Hon. Gentleman was very defirous to have an exadi account of the expences attending the late armament, diftincr. from the ellimates of the current year j and as far as it was poifible to feparate them, he would be ready to ftate to the Houfe, and could afiiire the Right Hon. Gentleman, that it was his intention to lay before the Houfe a very particular and minute detail of every article f>at had been done in confequence of the late difference with the Court of Spain, and the confequent armament.   With regard to the prrfent vote for 24,000 feamen, he did not think it was poflible entirely to feparate that from the current expences, becaufe the difmantling of fo great a fleet could take place but gradually, and there might even be a neceffity for keeping up a greater peace eftabtilhmeht than formerly, as be would not hefuate to fay, that his Majefty's Miniiters confidered that the prefent ftat  of Europe demanded that a greater naval force ihould be kept up than the laft peace' eftablilhmcnt, at leait for a fhort time'",* and that they took this to be the policy which England ought to follow in the prefent fnuatioa of affairs.   He faid, that it would very foon, in the courfe of the bufxnefs which he meant to fubmit to the Houfe, be nece/Iary to examine the peace eftabHfliments that had taken place at different times previous to fettling what ought, In the prefent circumftances, to be the permanent eilabKlhraent; but he did not think it would be poffible to bring that -on before Chrift-rnas, as it would require much fertous confidera-tion, and was a fubjeft which he, as much as any body, wifhed might meet with an ample dif-cuifion. Mr. Pitt made a very candid fpeech ; and Mr. Fox, in reply, (aid, that finding from what had fallen from the Right Hon. Gentleman, that his Majeity's Minifters confidered it to be the policy of this country, from the general ftate of Europe at prefent, to encreafe the peace eftablifhmenr, he would moft chearfully give his yote for the motion, referving to himfelf, however, the right to reafoa upon the general itate of Europe, and the prefcm ilate of this country, when other matters might be under dif-CuiCoa to which that reafoning would apply. Tha Sp-aker then pat the" queftion, that this y refoliiuott be read a fecond time; which was carried ; as were all th� other refolatiotis that had the Committee of Supply on . Mr. Pitt tofe to. take the opportunity of a$f quaintiog the Houfe, that on accoat� of fontf particular circumftances, he wiQi.ed to pOftpbne the confiderntiOA ofthe^aj^ a&d Means for defraying the expence of the late armament till Wedflefdaf fe'n'night; he therefore would propofe,;witK^  leave of the Houfe,. to withdraw the order \Vhtc* flood-for Monday; on which day, as there probably W^uld be a full attendance, it was his intea-tion to enter into the difcuffion of the articles, bi Cbnventl&n,-and the other papers which he had prefeoted to the Houfe, in obedience to his'Ma- -jefty's commands. In the mean time, if tbiJ* was any intention of calling for other papers, the Houfe would have an opportunity of agitating that queftion on any day moft convenient before Monday. Mr. Grey faid, that, undoubtedly, it was bis intention to move for feveral papers, which, in hi� opinion, were abfolutely neceflary to be on the table before the Houfe could enter into the difcuffion of the Convention; .is the' motion which he intended to make would, probably, occaiion fome debate,, he wifhed to bring it on a Monday-if the Right Hon. Gentleman would agree; to poftpone the confederation of the Convention, to fome other day. Mr. Pitt faid, he had no objection to.let th� motion of the Hon. Gentleman precede the other* If the majority of the Houfe ihould agree with him in thinking that there were already fufficient documents on the table to enable them to difcufs the,merits of the Convention, both queftions, in his opinion, might be debated on the fame day ; but if the Houfe fhould determine that more papers were neceflary, then, undoubtedly, tima muft be given to produce them. If, however, from any unforefcen circumftances, the difcuffion of. the Hon; Gentleman's motion Ihould be protracted to a late hour, the other queftion might b� poftpOned to the following- day. . . After fome further eoiiverfation, Mr. Grey acquiefced in-this arrangement, and the Houfe immediately adjourned. Monday, morning his Majefty, attended by 0J-t< Equerry, hunted with-his harriers. As .the. day? was uncommonly fine, the pack did not beat fop game till their arrival on. Maideobead T%icket, when feveral fine rutfs enfucd-What vBtth- the ch artn* of, ihe fpprt,. enlivened by t he beanUt^of - ~His Royall^hrrefs the fm&oT Wales gave a private ehj^rwininent �r * felect party"OiVhis" frilhds.vgiksfdir Carltpj* f^Jfe--1 '5rat? Duke and Duchefs of Buccleugh and family are arrived at their houfe in Grofvenof-fqaar� for the winter, from their feat at Dalkeith, near Edinbrgh. The Earl of Befbarough took the oaths and his feat yefterday in the Houfe of Lore's. His Lord-[hip has compleated the 79th year of his age. Yefterday the Governor and Deputy Gover�-nor of the Bank had a long conference, by appointment, with the Miniiler, at his houfe in Downing-ftreet; as had alfo Le Baron deNageU, the Ambaffaddr, for the firft time fince his return from Holland. Some rumours which were firft circulated about two months fince, with refpeft to a Member of the Madras Council now on his way to Europe, are "again revived. 1'he King of Pruffia has inverted with the Order of the Black Eagle his Councillor of State, Mini-fter of War; and Second Ambaffador to the Diet, the Comte de Goertz. He accompaaied this favour with a very flattering letter, wholly written with his own hand. Th� letters from Lifbon, received in town yefterday morning, mention in particular that thft Spaniards are reducing their naval force at Cadiz, Ferrol, Corunna, and other ports, according to an article of the Convention with England. The road from Portfrrtouth to London has for fome days paft exhibited all the humours of " Jack paid off"-~The tops of all the ftage coache* are compleatly manned, and even.the &5#�#.have. many more than their complement of able bodied. feamen. 1 hofe who cannot afford this expenfive mode of travelling are feen in the moft whlmfical groups travelling at the rate of two or three knot* an hour, with their Dulcineas in t
                            

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