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   Freeholder (Newspaper) - December 1, 1851, London, Middlesex                                178 THE DECEMBER to become the proprietors of a piece of freehold land sufficient at least in every agood cottage and and to confer a county One of the trustees we find to be the Resi dentiary The will be able to tell the Times how rogues are made though we should have thought such a wellinformed paper as the Times would have found it quite unnecessary to ask the THE the battles were fought by the opponents with a determination that betrayed a last effort but all was every paidup allottee was declared and their names now grace the registration lists of those counties and the council urge upon every gentleman present the necessity of calling the attention of the and committees of every to see that each qualified man makes his The council feel happy in making known to you that Ireland is likely to be blessed by the Freehold Land Already there are being organised in that country institutions applying our principle to agricul j tural and if properly carried cannot The friends of this movement held their third annual Conference on meeting at eleven oclock in the morning at the Kings Arms The gathering was as large as that of either of the previous years and it will be seen that the discussions and resolutions were of a most im portant WILLIAM as President of the Freehold was called to the Amongst those present were Locke John Robert solicitor to the National Freehold Land Society solicitor to the Westminster Freehold Land Society Lat of Wheathamstead of and All the important Freehold Land Societies were represented by their It was announced that the first business of the Conference would be to receive the report of the JAMES of as secretary to the read the which was as fol The council of the in presenting their second annual cannot but congratulate you upon the present position of the Freehold Land Since your meeting in twelve months many of the prejudices and objections which existed have become or numbered amongst the fol lies that and the effervescent excitement of some overzealous friends has found its level and the grand principles involved in yowr operations have been consoli dated and and are now being duly appre ciated by all During the year more than 20 new societies have been formed under the most favour able and a great number of public meetings have been 51 of which have been attended by your and as many more he has found himself unable to accept invitations from the council have not been in a position to supply the demand it appears that had they been enabled to send an no one would have been so acceptable as your as his personal attendance is invariably insisted The council again call the attention of the Conference to the absolute necessity of assistance in this The council have to complain of the negligence of the secre taries of the societies in not filling up the printed form sent by which an accurate statistical table of im mense importance could have been supplied to this Conference of the various particulars There are more than 100 societies in England and from 62 only of which returns have been our calculations with the greatest care from those received as to the remaining we shall find there are members subscribing for shares 150 estates have been allotments actually and upwards of sterling being subscribed for These compared those of last show an increase of more than 20 and The actual receipts have exceeded not only all preceding but are more than the total sum before subscribed in other the receipts since your last meeting have reached the magnificent sum of or nearly a quarter of a million The council require no other facts to impress you with the value and importance of this The council have viewed with much anxiety and care the discussions now going on in reference to the mode of allotting which question they earnestly entreat the Con ference to coolly and deliberately and whatever differences of opinion may exist upon this they entertain no fears that you will not let any other than friendly feelings guide your so that the issue may lead to if practicable an uniform mode of allot The council refer with exultation to the triumph achieved by Freehold Land Societies in the revising bar risters courts everywhere the most desperate efforts have been made to disfranchise those qualified by these and everywhere they have In I but confer upon Ireland a benefit that shall be lasting in JU its The report was unanimously THE ROTATION AND THE B ALLOTTING BROOKS SMITH of Birmingham was the first He said that he bad to bring under the notice of the Conference a subject of primary interest to every Freehold Land His object was to bring about a uniformity in the practice of relative to the allotment of the purchased lands at present the systems prevailing were essentially different in different societies and as the shareholders and the public generally were doubtful as to which system was entitled to approval and it would be very desirable that the Confer ence should now more fully than on former occasions discuss the whole if come to a decision upon He begged to when an estate is purchased and divided into so much of it as there is money in band to pay shall be offered to the members of the whether paying up or in and the remainder be offered to those members in rotation lower down in the list who are willing to pay Smith entered into lengthy technical to show the necessity of the adoption of the rule conveyed in his ROWLEY seconded the A desultory debate then took place Dean of the Pancras Godden of and other contributing varying opinions and HTJGGETT secretary to the Westminster Society as an That of the number of allot ments in every future purchase of a a portion not exceeding onehalf shall be offered to members ac cording to seniority of membership who shall agree to pay up the whole cost of their together with a charge of five per on the amount of such to be applied towards the defrayal of the general expenses of the society and the remaining allotments shall be ex clusively devoted to the other members in all parties jointly ballotting for priority of This rule had been the guiding rule of the Westminster and had been found practicable and DENNES seconded the HILL of Southampton thought that in the case of tbe society with which he was connected there would be total ruin unless some alteration in reference to this system was resorted He approved of the principle of making tbe allotment in the first instance in But what were they to do i th the mass of later subscribers They must have their chance and they could only get their chance through the Some modification of this kind would be neces thought that they might calculate on the consequence of tbe rotation If the first subscribers were to be first served they would have a perpetual succession of new societies He thought the system would have to be different under different and that each having lution more likely than those at present introduced t the ofthe The CHAIRMAN said it would be best to take all the amendments at BARNES then That as far as tbe Con ference is in a position to judge at it is of opinion that the interest of the Freehold Land Societies Move with regard to the allotment of will be best consulted by each society settling its own course of according to its local circumstances cheers and DAWSON seconded the JAMES TAYLOR frankly confessed that he ha d changed his mind on this He found that the Moorgatestreet called his own the National been leading other societies astray in re spect to the The Moorgatestreet Society only applied the ballot very They adopted the rota tion system for their paidup he was for an indiscriminate with fair in terest to all members for their money He believed that societies generally throughout the country were acting mischievously regard to allotments and he believed that generally Freehold Land Societies were not but positively decreasing in the numbers of their It was true that there were returns showing new members joining but still more members were He was satisfied there was salvation generally in the He called upon the Conference to settle this important question at GOBDEN moved an amendment on the preceding but no seconder the proposition fell to the GUEST of Kidderminster was in favour of the rotation ALLEN of Hull could report that in the Hull Society they bad adopted the ballot and the system had been The following moved by and submitted That without wishing to lay down an inflexible this Conference is of opinion that the system of ballotting ought to be generally CLARKE one of tbe directors of the National Society vindicated the working of the National and appealed to its manifest success as affording a proof tbat the working classes bad confidence in the system of tbe BONTEMS of Hertford had tried the rotation and then the ballot system in the society with which he was and he believed that now the ballot gave universal The working classes would have no faith in a society where each man had not an equal RICKETTS of Manchester agreed with the last speakers that the ballot was indispensable to the success of these At Manchester they knew only of one and they treated all their members At Manchester they had done what no other society had done member had got an allotment cheers and It was quite clear that this Manchester So ciety was the National Society CHARLES GILPIN asked whether all present were entitled to vote Of whom was the conference composed The members and friends of the Freehold Land MACMILLAN of Carlisle reported that in Car lisle they had ballotted for rotation when names were first put down for the formation of a SMITH of Birmingham was puzzled which way to He give his as to the best proposition on the to The ballot might be introduced into all new societies the power of forming its own might be safely left to He would venture to warn the officers of societies to be on their guard against temptations which seemed to be now offering to get on too fast The system of borrowing money might some day cause an The best system was a cau tious system GRAY of and SMITH of made some general guarding the members of the Conference from too hastily lend ing their authority to a principle by no means unob BEAL of London said he moved at the last Con ference an admonitory resolution in favour of the gene ral adoption of the ballot in these He was a till in favour of the ballot The balance of ad in most was in favour of He re ferred to the great success of the National Society as affording proof of the position he took To rely solely upon the rotation principle would be ruinous to adopt it partially might be SPONG replied to the arguments of BARNES inquired of the Chairman whether it was competent for any gentleman to submit now some reso but would prove mischievous if applied to old wha had so far adopted the rotation WHITTINGHAM secretary to the National So ciety explained the system of the society which he COBDEN said that he could not hope to give the Conference better information for their guidance than they had had from the gentleman who had already and whose technical experience rendered any observation from him in the same direction He wished however to point out that the gentlemen who had spoken on behalf of the National Society had shown considerable disinterestedness in asking the conference to adopt their Their it was had had the greatest success to speak for it and in suggesting that that system should be generally the directors of the National Society were doing perhaps considerable damage to their own societys He also wished to speak with complete He desired no He was a director of the National But he wished that the if to be found in their should be extended to every society in the It was out of the question that the National Society could go into every   

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