Courier, June 29, 1809


June 29, 1809

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Courier (Newspaper) - June 29, 1809, London, Middlesex � / THURSDAY Jl/.YB 29 VAUXIIALI^-Under |he Patronage of his lloyal ir^-htie>s liie Prince of Witlcj.-TO-MOJ�. KO'.V. June �;H be a �ftANp GALA,and Brilli.tHt Kvliibifiun of Fire VVuits-Atlivifsmn:h. Gd. AnAAlh" CATAJ:ANI having si^nUUl },.r iTwirf t.. Mr, Harris tu gfvc a Concert the Bsm-tit of I twritaWo InMtOiUons �f Uie A^lelropolis, ih,. . m..fnvi';:ri^!.vg4�'ejrw consfiii; aiidtlii^ Public a. n-imri-  "fMllv iiil-inieil, llmt .m Till;RMU :\ Y, t)lf Rtb iif July ni-xt, jl�i).,m.; CATALANl nil) gi,,. � (WIAA D CONClOl'I' at the I'anlheon UUePc>pni3!isteil �M llie rall^t eiuiiiciii Vi>r;il i uikTirtXrHmeulal P.Tiori�crs. .The whole of the i�nHil:i .if i aiiil^'onrfri will he t(T lln!J)iiii> ' MR. nUSKISSON'S REPLY TO MR. fVJRDLE. � iylVj jil the jirTncipdr WusxSlii-ps.-Vonier pariicUlurs ; ;,jl,tttluri'A -tSe 29thjTiitJay; Jimc .'JO. ari>aturaay, July 1. i52d'iiiie.T" Kqtiesiriim, and j'odt-iriaii SprcJ.icle, MPlfrii, by Mr. ASTl^UY, Juiii-r, ailW The AllAB; or, Tlie l'rtfeb��fH of the Desert, with a fieneral attack, rcsil h'-rte..-Mocien�5ifch:p b-y the fJouhle Coinp:iitv,and -me nONTK�TA4i,OM.i-To conclo le with, 4ih ijnie, a ,ai-iv Cn>ie I'autoinintri i!iveii(�>d atid (iroduveU bv Mr. I.>aii-rei.l,called the CLOWiN's FI�.T:SI I) ; or a T.Mr through >miire: exhibititifr,ninoo� I4i4et� |iiceiieast Eigln. Ki^ucsfriaa 'ruitioabj- ablC'Slastcr^. Q' Ul'.O'S GENKRAL LVhVG-IN HOSFI. TAL, Rayswatcr-The Ciovcmors of this IntiituiinQ are reqi�e�t�*d "deet iIjc uiider-me�tioned ptrs�ii� at the Hospital, on-Saturdav nexti Jiily J, al twelve precisely, in. : jcuDsej|ii('iKe-f-ihe refusal of Mr., the CoIlei-torjiiMl Secretary, hi. riTeive thrirsubscripliou�, or give any nrt^ouiit oHhe t'liariJy, aad haviii; tinted that he *as orderi-'d l� re-ceiteiKt more subset iptious, of wh'ch the Goveriiiirs are de-:irrd (o lalie oat{ce.~l'hits. iJeuiiian, M. O. Juha Clarke, M. H. t�im. ChiWer, Rtchard Croft, M. D. Jaraes WiUi.ii, J. W. Pjitpps.and C. i�: Oiif ke._^_' LA3)Y of respectabiiity, wishes' for tlie sake L of society to reside ^ilh a family of the hishest rrsprc-tibiWty, Ml n-;�;npdneisbbourhaod,.it will be liiuch picftTred where a carriage is kept.' The 'l>eaaty of the.uctnac rest-' 4rtict, and Ilia; of the surtnumling country i- a material ob-ect, .lib requc3ted'm�*one wili answer'this adve;;tijeiiient bHt KJtb real,Hastes, and wbo�esttu;ition in life and refer-cBces are iine-vceptionable, A'ddrfcs{port paid) to C. U. at Nr. II, dgi'ifa,Sti>tliwer, W iiin>lc-Mrot._' others �if Iwjje ___________r--,. ____ - r, a middle iigeS iKirried mao, wlw o� weu very nsp>-i talily situated, dfler? kit veivicrs to aii.v N�b)euiai> or (iciitleatau LAND 5rEWAKU�1te.lias a perfect knuwiedgi-of Surveying and fiuMdiDg^and Irac^ainled ivUh'thV maoasetnent aud vilna-! liuo of wnf(t:it nn'the Road-between the Swan with Two Kecks, Lad-laoe; Lnndun. aud the Mail C'nach Oitire, Ssilis-bury, on or about Sunday, the 18lh inst. a Small PAPER � PARCEL, dirpctea"'to' jMessr?.. Kellrways and Fordiiie-iNidf^e; Wbotiver jbihild tiad 'the above Parcel, and will bring it with iti -i tably sito: 4 4 S H .21 35 ^.0(w......avMO 2.CtX>......S.ffOll 1,000...... 8,iXH) .. ,. 1(X)......2,400 50...... 1,801) 4,?a>.....J5.... 73.8i!0 ij^oqo Tickels. ^^iCJ.OOO � draiuiasa.iiist'such'N'umher; for^Hatance, if fio. Ishonldbe 4imi|j.a.Prlze of %,'000/. (he Fbur Tickf ts of that JMionher will each .V'hiitled to 20,000/." making,' in the khole, 8i)JXXV.l*�ihat If any |�er�oii should purchase mote than Onevl'inet'o^ the sahie Nt>mber,*and tbal Number prove |lartu&ite,'h% m^;'{�in, M T*oTiclteb of the same Number, A Prize,of.....................^MO.IX.O By Threif TiiAeb ufthe same Number, "A Prize iif....,..............-. =�.i0.000 .�" 5y'Four Tickets of the saioe Number, A J*riM' of............ ^SO,i)00 Aad^-;'ttl]ier Priies in the same propoitioa. ' TfCKfeTS-tind SH.A RRS are on Sale at all the omces. RICHARDSON, GOODLUCK, and Co. re. spectrally acquaint the Public, that Tickets nod Shares fcrt^e'STATE tOTTICRY are oti Sale at their Orti.e-s iianli'butldiiucs^CorithMl^t ood facihfc'the Gale of the King's Hew*,. Chariiw^croaf, there are but 5,000 Nttmbers (friMo I to-S,00QL4iicRisMre) fo6r :Tickets of each Number. The vholrtOJMrdtawtiln'one day. . \ vt ;CAflTAtPRI2Ea 4'..-.^ofV... ifS.OOOl 8 ....of____i'l.lKX)  ....�f.;:,'Vi:8i000fia of .... 500 � &c- 4?. *c, -  ' ' Schenif s at large gmyis.__ " , BY AUCT10>. ' : jEOPtHOLO PREMISES Oa the BaiiSn of the Thames, in W�-ofl_l|p oMiil'iiissiraMeftnd.retire^ SitH.-.iJsbon,8pliitt)^d >inp�itii)ds,wilhthe e>iiire House-.Md>'.iimitun:.^y JMcssrs. TllOMP.SOS and SON, on ,' "^wPreltiiieS^. MiinVpeli>r-row, b"rJering on the 7'hamM, ytwen RichiiMbdBritljsiB hnd THickPtih.iro, Midrflesex, -^iS^pm�p�,the^Ui 11 o'clock, by Oixlerof Pie Executors," rpHOSE tery^tlMirable COPYHOLD PRE. ^ j.*.^ ftHSfiSfi^mprJjttjg.T vfrv cohipnci ronrepjient Dwcl-�;y^W�Hlje'fMiatgen�ev)�njjiir{amily.'wilba (Kirden, 150 the ciiiire llou-^ehoid . t!U Lnlraching, in another place, the subject which lie has now at last brought untJer. the cyti. sliferaiiiiu of ihcllousc ; thosu feelings have by no theaii!, been weakened, either by the explanation which the Hon. Gentleman has just giveu of the tnoiiTCS by which he J-as been actuated, or by the statrmeiit which he has submitted to the House in support of his proposition. If, in the first in-stance, I observed, wi'h ast(Jni^hment, a iMemhiT of this House, one of the nuardians of the public purse, aiitl one, too, who professes to watch u�cr the public expendittire with more than an ordinary'depri-c of jialou.";/ and anxiety, seeking, an opporttihity, not^dnrinfr the recess of Pdrlia> metit, but iu the middle of a Session, not in this House, but at a public meeting, of stating, that he could point out a |)lan by which fleveii millions a year tnighl be saved to thecounfry., that astonish, ment waioii. I-i a tune, almost of anger and C')m;:i.iint, he fells you that he has been goaded and chHllenged by the frequent calls made upon him here ; that yielding to such impor-tuuiiyanil not to any sense of his poblic duty, he, on this last day of the Session, condescends to point �ut the means of rebevmi; the public from the  presstire of the property tax, VVhat, Sir, is the light iu which the Hon. Geut. places his own con. diict by his stafement of this evening? Some two months ago he had ascertained, to the entire satisfaction I presume of his own mind, that a tax producing upwards of eleven millions a year could be taken olT without any detriment to the public service; he had, at fhat time, so completely matured the nieasurrs of Reform by which ctiis saving could be cti'ected, as publicly to record his opinion ; and, to-night, he foils you it never wa-i his intention, in this Session, to follow up that opinion by any proposition in this House! In the view of the Hon. Gent, then the saving of eleven millijns is a matter of such little moment, (hat the means of effecting it being discovered by hmt in tKe middle of one Session, it consists with his sense of the public duty, to postpone the application of those means tilj the next. Rut it also consists with fie siine sense of duty in the mind of Hon. Genilvnian to send forth the aisertion to the pilblic, under such circumstances, and coupled with finch sentiments, as appeared to the meeting, where it was first uttered, best calculated to create an impression, that the blame of the conlinnanco of this tax is soUIy to be ascribed ?o the corruption of ^his House. Tho blame, if blame iheri! be, of not having in?cstii,'iiled the Hon. GenlJtman'splans of ecoimniy in this Ses.sions, must fall entirely upon himself. This mischief, likewise, if raitr, from the manner in >*hich the Hon. Geotleinan treats tliis subject, 1 Um at a losii to understand why he shuiild coiifine his saving to eleven millions. Wiih the 84me facility, aud, by the same process, he might prodiice. a saving of twenty; and certainly there are \ other reformers, out of doors, with a degree of i sel'.cotrfidencc, eipial to that of the Honourable ; Crenttemaii, who dq not scruple tu tell the public I thai T:ri])-tisqn of foreign Corps wbick vye now j^ipssejg, and which llic Hon. Gentlemii-n i? so fliixifiiw to-difmiss ignominioiisly from Qur 'service ? They"' coiisist of men, born strbjeeis of atid owing all-fiance to llie same Sovcreiga witli onrs'i'lves^-of men wh->, when driven from Hanover by Ihe ' unprovoked aggression of iliefneiny, swnght aa asylum ic this cuuiUry. Whar course, on that oc.. . casi4in would t!ie Hon. Gi nilenian bave tai^ea-^; i Would he have f Tti�f8mt"1lTtf^|tor^ 'hi# {ffoTt'cTToiti ta men who had sutib strong claTms to (hat protection ? Would he liavtj ilrinn them, in di-spaijr, into the ranks of (he enemy ; or would he now send them back to Ilanovir, in order tliat a coii-Scri;^tiori may force them info'those ranks.' Had such been oar policy, the chanctt of war mig'it perhaps have bniught thein into this couatry as liri-ioners; and instead of [wying them to fit^ht our battle", we mii;lit oow-bave had tomainiaiij them, at nearly the same e."rp. iice, mixed in our prisons with the Inveterate ei^eini'S of this country. Is iliis the only r.intiiig \ip..ij -which ihe Honourable Gen'lenian vtou'dhave been willing to have givHii t!u man asylum ?-To the loose general charge the Honourable (itnilemin ha^ ihrowa out against them of nd'Coiii'iict in Hu- fi Id, I ran only oppose the authariiy of: the IJrifish Generals under whom they served in Ziaiand and on the Peninsula, aad, 1, their favourable testimony will have as much weight with the House as the unsuppoi ted of the Hon. Gentleman. After all (tie House must recollect, that if we disband and send home these 20,000 foreigners, this dimittitfioti in our army must- be Hon. Gentlcmaii to be totally unnecessary ; but, I j made np by an equal number of Knt;!ishmen, to think, when the House considers not only that these corps are conneded with the splendour of the throne, and'are called upon to attend upon the Sovereign whenever he visits any public place in -the metropolis, but that their services are reqiii red ou all occasions of public ceremony, and are es. semial for the preservation of public tranquillity and good order, they will not be disposed to allow thellon. Gentleman to take credit for this proposed saving, indeed, it must be obvitjue, that if these two corp^ were reduced, other corps of ca valry, at least to the same extent, would be req'ii. site for the service and police of London, and the ulmost saving, therefore, t-*.it could be eff-cied, by the sacrifi.e of the other considerations to which I have referred, would be the paltry dilfereiice between the pay of the Life Guards and that of Cavalry of the Line. The next saving is of a m-jrc extensive and sweeping nature. The lion. Gen. tleman proposes to reduce the Cavalry at once to 15,000 mtm. Unquestionably, Sir, if 15,000 men be a sullicient body of Cavalry for this country to maintain, all above that number should be reduced : but the Hon. Gentleman assumes the fact; and, if we are prepared upon the mere ip-c dixit of that Hon. Gentleman to dist)and nearly one half of bur cavalry, the saving must follow as a matter of course. This is no wonderful di-co. very. But is the House prepared fo act upon the bare a.ssertion of the Hon. Gentleman and to allow his auihority upon this great military qnes-tion, unsupported by any statement or argument whatever, unaccompanied with any comparative view of the proportion which the Cavalry of an army like ours ought to bear to its infaiii,ry, to outweifih the opinions of all the great military characters wiio have been consulted upon this subject, and thejudgmeiit of the House itself? It�-deetl, Sir, the time which the Hon, Gent, has chosen for proposing this reduction is somevhat singular. It is precisely at a moment when a considerable proportion of our cava'ry is di.stiugnishi ing itself npon foreign service, wnen we are called upon, fror* all quarters, to send a much larger c-.rps to co-operate with our allies, aud when our decisive superiority in this description of force has recently beensosfrongly marljed and acl^nowledged by our own Generals, and felt by our caemies. 'I'his is fhe period of the war wbich.the Hon. Gent, selects in order f�� bring forward a proposal for getting rid "f nearly one half oi' (he cavalry. To the foreign ctirps, liis next head of retrench-ment, *be shews still less of his iadiilgence. Tl�ey must be swept away allogelher. He has talked of them as a description of men not lo be tolerated, whose existence, as a military corps, is a disgrace . to tke country, and -hose conduct on service has shewn them tu be destitute buiH of fidelity ai|d Courage. In this general description I can by no nieans concur-such charge.^ appear (o me as cot), trary to recorded facts as they are cruel and illibe-. ral towards that merjtoriou,s class of men, who, from feelings of loyalty and fidelity above all praise, fcave been the yicfims, for these last sixteen years, -of that dreadful Revolution which begatj by their |-iiiri, aud ha* now nearly effectetl the ruin of the civilized world. That some Iritiing instances of niisponduct may have occi^rreil in the emigrant porps, as they do in all other corps-that of (hem were recruited by jneihods which I hevei: djii approve of) �f.e facts which | am not prepared fo (ieny I but ^use iqist^Qces have been artfully and grssly exaggerated, whilst their deeds of and herf>ism are j^ept out of sight. I will not detain the House by recalling them at preseiit; bt|t if the Hon. Gendemaa U at a loss for one be raised at a much greaier, and mainiaincd at an equil ex|)enra; so that (his discovery of the Hon. Gentleman would effect no saving, unless he could also persuade the House and the Country, that our regular force, which it has been the unifonn endeavours of the House to augmerit, cauld On-ibrgo a reduction of 20,000 men, without any inconvenience. On the subject of thc'Lopal Mi-liiia I shall not detain the House by any detail. The Hen. Gentleman has called it the mosf profligate of all establishment?;. I shall only say that if is an establishmapt cilled for by the voice of the Country, and by the sense of this Hi.use ; that it is a dc'csripiion of frtce which, Irotn its naiure and co:nposition, serras of all other, the least calculated to increase patronaj-e, and to afford scoptj for prodigatc establishments; fhat the Honourable Gentleman, with his view of the subject, should ha^e opposed the measure itself, when it was under fhe consideration of Parliament, a conrsa wtiich I do not recollect him to hav-^ taken. But when Parliament has difccted this force to be pro-vidrd, fhe Exccu'ive (jovernment would be gross* ly remiss if it neglected to carry the law inft> execution ; an^ 1 am sure that it woijld be im-poisible to rilise, embody, acd ol5cer so largo a force, without incurring the full amoptit of expence granted by Parlijinent for this purpose. So long, therefore, as this force is mairitaiued npon its present footing, the Honourable Gentleman cannot expect any savins to be effected.- I shall not follovv the lion. Geulleinati through the details of all the o^her savings which he ha? proposed, because fhe House must have,perceiveJ that they all rest upon the same fouhdaiion^the mere asserlioris ol the ITm. Geiitlem^n., fhat such and such establishineiary f.,r me to oppose auy thing more tljan counter assertions ; though I canntit help observing that all the services tu which he has objected are annually brought under the consideration tjf Parliam-uf ;-iliat provision is annually made for fheir SM[}\iort by fhe votes of this House: and fhat it is too muci for the Honourable Gc itieinatj to expect that a mere declaration frtiin iiun that siich services are' usth-ss should be all ih : proof that Parliament would require tm tke subject.. In no iuatar.ce does the lion. G tleman feel* no diffitulfy iii,deciding upon it. In his view, all ftirtifica'i ins lire uselesi; but, at 500,000.'. will answer hiijiarvose, he is generously pleased to allow us IQQfiOOL fo/ toe aihusement of those \7ho arc of^� dillerei-t opinion. In t ft article of g,riny clothing the Hon. Gentleman tal-oalates upon a saving of 270,000/. pet aiifin;r. instance, Ictitim IboJ; to tfee ?ijcge of Ypres by (be /I'hi; is a duwnrijht f�!Iacy. The great coats fwr ;