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   Courier (Newspaper) - May 6, 1809, London, Middlesex                                SATURtyAY   MJY 6. 1^09. Price 8*, ^-^^SoPKIETORSorEAST INUlA STOCK. ^''^i:.S'::;^S^��ol"'-"^ of the Pro. N P .5, IndiiSlock, �sbcn)bU-�l yesterday, m fie ri^WhMayne",~ my object, it � *S�>�=   5:^,jmvsef worthy of that Uo.ntoral.le suu.i- �'"fhave the honour W be, will, the grcatesl respect, your most devoted Svrvjo^^^^^^jjj^j^ CfontWT-v\�^t^ April 2!), m>g. �y^jnMlj;R-s COilAIUTlilv will meet every day * J,fl (ill five iicliicli, :M the fltv "f London 'Ptivern. ??JL,;jrate-slfeel, where f;fviiural>lB'commonicatirtns will Tfl fHiri'H -^ Director in tlio room of jjr. AlJWhip,' W'll 'afce (liace ort the 10th Insf.nil, I f^ofwiiuli i "lui-ts'.lemiilv JlU-ilse uiysrlf |i> fuWil |,bv vdurfiivouriuctcedlhenlo) with tlial inlfsiiiv, dtiie. and .iiieiiliiin ns    all justify the ^u|)lll^rt'l t^Mpwieneed in my Cmivni. and the lioijDur yc�u win .4S0H.  V   �     wiij,i;V:Vj \vj(;uA:\r. TRANSI'ORT-OKFICK, AprilU, ISOS). i ''jnHE Cammiisioners far conducting Ili^ Ma- j I   J.  jtsfy's Trmuptiil. Service, fur tahing care of Sick and ^. J^'oinuled Setimen, and for t!ic ('are ntiil Vuttodif of I'rhuiuri \ of If uf, do herf.f/i !;ice nutin; HiiU thet) icUl be rcalf at lliii \  ///(V, un Thursday, ^/^e IS^'/ May, 1,S..9, to receive .-^'Mhil \ Trmlers, and heal ttil/i siu-/i I'er.wus �j ninf be tcitling in ; umliact for lit- ptrfucniiince of crrlnin WOltKS prii]ii>?fd j to biMliinPat (he Roy at Naval Hospitil at beal, in the L-'oiinly of Kent. The'Tenders are to specify a time for the complclicn of  the '>Vnrli>. I Sii Tender Kill be received nfitr One nClofJ: on the dny of \ Triiiti), nor an,) noticed iiwlex* the i'urty, or an A^cnl for hiiii pinonalli) attend. H'ich Tendtr mast be accompiinied lnj a l.tlUu- from ttco rtspictoblv I'crsuns engaging to bccwne bound teit/i tlx I'orson tendering, in the sum uftMJ!. forilte due /jcrformuncc of tin Contract.' h'ttilher parlicuUnr mag be k'tuien, and Draicings of the ' proposed lyorlKSU'en by iippli/ini; iti t/ns Oifice; or to Purser Otiweri, Esq.'Guvcrnor of the icni/al Mavul Iluspilai at I>e.!t. "I yTMsv-^iTg^--'-  .     -    _____.-------- .ri�ifiriw)1'l�ll.T.l)ttSOF KASr INDIA STOCK. Tin; favourable reception 1 nan- met vritfi (>ir. ft\t mynn-'OOt canvsis induces m' ni.ift n-iiMcfidlv to J^M-um. Jlii'idd yiiu now he plra-i'd to cimter iiium diu rttliomliir-'ddi" di.-linclion of choobing; ini' iiiie  krr any friendly commuuicalions will be tliauklully re- ffived.__^___. jvlMJ'. t iilock, friends of ICVLiCs lll\nN, V.^. held this ri::v at the King's H-.-ad, in the FuiiKrv, CDAKLKS PIKSCHKf.l-, Ksii- in the Clrair, lUsnlved,'I'hat it is the .y T\l% CiimmUdoners for ViclitaUir.ii uix Ma. ,tifil > A'lii'jf tr j�irtick, had the Hon. !VIem^)fr ^TCD, to call upoQ the House to adopt st^solcmu a proceeding, as the hearing at their Bar? What, cliargcs had he sp(M;ifieJ against Mr. Perceval or Jj'ird Castlereagh ? Wouiti any Court, which de. served to be called � Court, conduct itself upon such drinct|)les ? Was it ever hear.!, that a persuil is to he set down as one under accusation, with, out the slightest information havins been laid he. fore the House? The lion. Member tells them, that he is inform* d, a Member of that Iloust had stated in a former debate, some instances of corrupt practices within his knowledge; and upon lliese grounds he pre/ers a charge, which has the effect of ubIigiitK (ho Right Hon. Member tu quit the House. If every .Member, agaiti&t whom vague and indefini'e char"ges of tliis kind might be brought forward must withdraw, as a inaMer of course, the III*. Member might soon have the whofo House to himself. He deprrcatcd the scattering of loose and unfounded accusations. The Hon. Member was tc^tally mistaken in his precedent. As far as his recollection served bim, it did not sanction the form of proceeding he recommended. The charges at^ainst the Shepherds were the subject of long and fr.qucnt examination.* be-fore Cumtnktees of that House. There was n(� precedent for putting a man on his Irial ou such slight grounds. Sir K. BURDETT observed, that his Honour, able Friend had no oi)jcction to state the particulars uf that infvrmatiou, which he me^nt lo lay before the Hu.us4'. Hd always understood that a Member informing tiie Honse (hat a rep )rt had reachetl him of corrupt practices, was tield snni-rient g.round to proceed upon. The H mse had often pr.jceeilfd to hear evidence at 'h-e Bar, iipon even slighter grounJs than the mere knowledge of Members. Mr. BIDDULPH thought it was the duty of the Right Hon. Members ag.iiiist whom the charge was brought, to .stand up and s.condthe motion, if it were only for the purptisc of clearing ihrir char.ic-lers. Afier what hatl been said in that House, re-.-pectijig these corrupt practices, it was impossi-ble not lo take notice of the subject. Tlx! House could not, maintainingjany regard for its cliar..c(er, p;tss over S9 extraordinary a circumslattcc. Some (if his Majesty's Ministers wer  charged vvilii being active agents iti corrnption. The tune and (lignily of that iloHSe must be grea/Jy fallen, th-; feelings of Ministets thems'.'lves must be'woefiilly lilnmeJ, iniL-ed, if they cmiUl sit in tluir places, and .^car such accu-atii;ti^. The Hon. Member was eniitlcd to lire allention of the lloiise, if it were only on account of the ^rave and im[iortant nattire of ti.e charge he broffg'it fonvanl. li was, in stihs'anee, no less than H.is, that two of his Majesty's M-;-nistirs were accused of corrupt practices, to procure returns of Members lo Parliament. Mr. BATIIUMST conceved th. re was something extremely irregular in the form of proceeding proposei! by the Hon. Member. It was a form of proceeding better adapteil to the genius and spirJt of one of Ihc tnectings that were so freqttent, an ! so indiisiiiously j)romottd, th-tn !) lilting the tim-per anil dignity of that ^Ilonse. It would well bect)me (hat meeting, in whicli ihe extraortlinary proposidoii was made and approved, that a man holding a place under Government w,i# not fit to sit ill that House. Such propositior.s were nut intended for the sober c.>nsidcratii>ti of P.irliainenl. No ; their object was to increase the popular ferment, lo add fuel to fire; and to encourage and propajat'- that dangerous spirit that was circuia'.ed with a diligenei' Hie m()st snspiciuus. " Sp.irgcr^' voce? in viil;;us anibigu'u"- seemed to be liie i:rand priiiciple of acti.iti of the leaders of these meelings. Tiuir aim was lo cry down all public men-to render tl.eni objects of distrust and suspicion. ile coiihl perceive no good, no siib'taiice in u motion oronndi d on iind--(iiuul chaif-s of this kind. For his pari, Ik; niti^t require somet.'iiiig tangible-xonio statement that would enable him to de(crmine vvhcliier llie c'-.ari;;^ was (it lo be eiiteruined, and what were liie grounds  !i the loose gri>nnds that ihem.-itinn of the II m. Memiier did. It ivas (kjI becuisi! one Meniher slinuld say that another ditl and so, that that other .Member sliouKI he calird tijiin to n ga'ive it. Where (he c'large vyas direct, flic course of j)roceediiig was jilaiii.- Instead of secotnling the motion, the Right Hon. Member Conid only do as t;e ha.I do'ie; and iliey were butind to sti|)port him aaainst a most unfar mi-de. (if endeavoiiiiiiiT lo itnpliCdte the 11 >usc. Mr. BIDDULPH (h ught it e.vfraor.bn.iry (hat the Uigiii H.�ti...Memb-r, with lAhum he ha I nnt the least a;-qu.iitilaiice, and wlio Un -w bn' li.ib* of him, should charge him with (iarlicipaiing in factious lueetiiigs and- Mr. WIUTBRI.AD rose to ord r. It appeared to him (hat the Hon. Member totally misunderstood the last speaker. Mr. BATHUi{ST expl.ined (hat he certainly had no knowledge of the Hon. Member. What he said relating to faeiious mceliui>s meant to apply to the Hon. Member ; bof he nf,w un.irr. stood itiat-he never atiemled any of llio'e meiMiigs, and he Jherefore be{:ged paid u for having so alluded to him. Mr. MADOCKS said, (hat when he g:)venot ce of Ihe mi-tion which Ic bronuht forward that evening, he staled the substance of it as/idly and explicitly as he onld. He co::c.ived that he wouhl best do his dniy by resting his procetdMig iipo.t j>u'cedcnt. If,-i.i pHrsuiiig ih s eiiuse. he could be supposed to have acted ttncanilidly towards the Members agaiti.-t whom llisc^a^ie^ were directed,he begged to ai-ologize to them, it arose from ignorance; for he could assure llmsi: li mi. Members, and be trusted the asseriioa would be believed, that lie was anxious t > bring the subject forward s.s fijriy as jiossible. He was ready to adopt any mode iJf proceeding the liotlse should recommend. It never was his intention^ indted it would be unfair, to send out a story (o the country, without being prepared to prjvc the fatit, ^ [Here the SPE.XKKR interposed, and said that after what had just fallen from the HoOi Member^ he felt U imperaiive np.D him to submit lo the House his sentiments on the course of pr.iceedicg. If it were fit that a ,>lember shoii Id be heard in his place, il was fit that he should hear the charees against which he v as lo def. n^ himself. No charges could he staled against anyabsent Alember., In respect ti) the notice, the Hon. .Member woulti allow hiiu to fell him, that any notice against Mi* nisturs applied to the wh-ile of (h>' ,A�lmini.-,tralion, and that it was not the practice of Ministers to withdraw, except the charges were personal. Tlienjiice I the Hon. Member gave, was against Minister.-; ge. \ nerally. With resjvcJ to the charges, the Iluus.' ai. ways received them wilh great stticiness and deli-; i beralimi. They miijht be brought forward in ihem-iftt ! solemn manner. There were two modes of pioet^ed. it'tg, either by impeachment, in which Cdset(i-;c of (111 ;i';iise.i^i.( ;oi)roc:ed, as he Ihoiiiilit it ouglitj it won!,! Ijc !-.isi!nty to tiike it sense Aye or No on tire M.Hi.ui.] Mr. -MADOCKS s.Vid that he v.  Id be fh- \i%t ()er.son to state any tldng to the Uoure which he conceived to be impr.per. Mr. Secretary CANNING thought there could be but one sentiment in the House on the su'ject of Ihc present tnotion. Considering the mode. it\ which it was brou:;ht forward, and (he mistake in t.'ie case of (he jireccdent referred to, he was on-viticed that the House ought to mirli its opinion in so decided a manner, as not to render i'self liable to a recurriiice of -Such a pr.icocdiiig. He rose, therefore, lo advise tiie Lf.inse not to agree to the wiilitlraw iiig of the motim, hut wifiioui in-letiiliuj^ any jji-rsonal disri S[)ect to (he 11 .motirah'c Mover, lie shs'.ild consecpien'ly oppose any liju. lion of (hat nature, and call fur the marked t.'pi-r.i J of the Hr.iisp. Mr. WliiriUll^AD rost- to olTer a few wnr.h. He commenced hy noticing the curious reason as. signed by the Si-rretary of State for refusing (  be produced by the nakod entry .mi the Journais of a prf>p')?iiiaii madea-.d nega'iied.   How couid the lu gitiving of the motion prevent any fuMirc misunderitanding   witjj.. draw i.is motion.    .'\3 t� (he niuLon iisel.'', 'not-Withstanding the able exposition from the Chair, I giv.'ii ivith ail ihe knowledge which cliaracter zed 1 I'le Riulit ll.in. (ren'leiii in, who .<-ms af alt ti;jie-i i so ready lo  .! I riv.uni  { any, or wii.it inforitiati.;ii \v,;sgieii ill I ilu- instance m he d. cljccii hiiii-i If riaJy to cier iiuo 4h. ids ^ taking ii|iijn hiinseji' the rispoiMiinlny and   � i    ' the la�k.    A Bight lio". Q.-ntlenian had ^tatis!, this cl.arge tnight apjjiar to b.; a i.ijJn^ muter, wh.-fi cxair.iiu'il, and therefore, tha? il was ii. ccs. saiy to kn.iw its ila'ure befnrehjiid; in sh.ir', to have il brtiughS b.fore (he 11 .u'e in a sh'ijie.    A tangible shape, he (.VIr. W) thong),; rattier an aiikwarj . At�(sMjj.'i at present.    The II.u e had recenlLy haii pretty string calls np.jr   

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