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Courier (Newspaper) - May 2, 1809, London, Middlesex v^...ii:ie.u I .riv III 17111)1111 0>:illllllC� To l�e vieurd (iiin, tvliicill Uiii uuxiius lu olilniu liy ti'.ciun ut' your ;v i liave the honour to be, wiih thi- gn-atcst rcsjjcct, Yuur itlUil doviitcil SiT^Mrt, i. ,  . JOitJN' CIIA.MU'R. ' :.,Mr. t;HAJVlIi;its CO.U.MirrKE im-.-t every Hay - �jru!!) lun tin five u'ttuck, ul the CMy nt Ln luvero. ; I ^i!biip5S!iie�strc�l, where favou'ralMe" comii:i!niration5 w ill ir-fTi, Jhfc-1>KOP�Ii;TOUSor- I'.AiT IMJiA STOCK. LaIUJCS amd .UliNXttJlCN, diilVrt'il from those of the Sniiilt. It wuuUlnot ; siirdy be prupcr or decoruus fur the liridsli Go-! verntTU'iit to aitciid ti> those dilFircuft^ ; their  duty lie conceived (o be, failhfuUy to interpret � the sentiiiifIlls of the Prince Ilogctit, 4nd by lli.-U ruJc rtiey had strictly regulaicd their coridu'jt'^a the part that was (alien in the formation of the Rc/L-ncy of I'oriuijal. Seeing, therefore, that no use Could now result from the proiliiclion of the .papers, biit, oil thi; contrary, much iiieiice, he flit hiniscif under tl ing htR negative to the motion. Lord SIO.MOL/T/I supported the moljon njOOOl. each as , While, had th,y Vea "llder'^as^ Sa\rnr^ and exposed to their risks andlos,-' as ______ ..ottj .iiiu tosses, two and � half per cent, on the'ueit produce (about 1000/. each), was. the nfmosf they ought to liarre cxpft^t-ed. Tiie Ilun, Gentleman then adverted 10- Mr. Alacdoaald and Mr. Uowles. Tbe tifc-of th� latter gave an excellent fpeciinen of enrijacobiaism. His conduct should be a warning to Government; trey ought to remember, that if such rotn' were I'lconve. lie iiecCiSity of giy. /MPEILiJh PAliLiAMEy T. IIOUSl- OF LOJrr^o,^.,,., .M,,Y 1 he Order of the l>,,y bcin- r.a.! ll.c Kirl of UUCKLVGl/AAlSWiflEi l, ,�, ,1, --i-i-"*-'" ' mov�? f,.r II ou.-ie to of if (f:a i.rf�.My Propnetuis favourable lo i,.> \m;-^t, .ippcur lo be  Wowhin? B��ot,.aiid caniettly to Solicit the favour of vour 1 have the honour lo-be, jvfi'i resiicct, ladies fuid dViitlrinen, '1 , � , Yobrinirst obedient humble .Servnt:!, :J�i>itnhaHr�tjrcct.-AiirU VS. im. J. VlLlsh'.V. �?�??�%tl for the refusal thau had lately, been allodged by the No-ble.Secretaty of State, for withholdiiii; other pa. pers, to the prnd�ction of which lie (Lord !?.) was at loss to see any ofijcclion. The object of which his presenttuotion was fa shew the ill conseqiKTnces that had arisen, not only t? the coii.Si! of Portugal, but also to till! cause cf Spain, from (he character of the Regenry wiilcb the {Jriti.^h Coiumanders in Portugal had set up in titat coim-try. It was notorious " that it had dd'cpcd the -spirit, and excited the suspicion of the Portuguese people. It had even threatened to sew disc-jrd and disunion among Uicm, ami-tended in a great degree to relax the exerlions whicli liicy othcrwiie were incliueiJ and jirepared-ta-make against the commoiionemy. When properly encouraged, and commanded, the Portuguese were far from bein;' bad soldiers. Abundant inslances we bassy any,' for cry respect ad Marquis to the Iwn. S/aii), for which bitu.uion, indeed the l-/ii;heM;iluaiion, he was in tvc SO eniinenfly quuli'i-d. Lord flARKOWUVcouM not see the propriety of entering into this discussion at present. He thonglit the mos* ------' was tiiat adu perhaps, be .....,.v.iii id aummtm a Cortes, but that \rould have iiecii a work of time, and the circumstances of the niomrHt reqtiir, d urgency. He never could have approved the conduct that seemed to be advised, that of our taking raiiitary possession of Portugal : it was our liniy (" re. establish a civil government under the mo:t legiti-mate form. Lor H.ui ims UHcussioii at present fie most expeditious mo,!e of proceeding �ptedbyb.rlJ.Dalrymple. ftmirht, e thought betxer to summon a CorTes  called for he thought an instance of scanilaioitS ne� gleet; it was in fact pivjug a bouoly to roguery.- Such aliuiies as had recently been the subject of discussion in that House would; probably never have e.visted, had not (he neglect artd profuscacss of Ministers rendered their detcctioo uncertain iiud remote. He then spoke of the careless manner in H hidi the accounts were investigated at the Treasury. Tlie Committee had proposed to give the Commissioners for their remnneratiop the sum of 10,000/. iuEteod of whit ihcy had thought pro. per to take to iliemselve? ; but even (his Sum, at it was as much a? good servants of the public ought to receive, he could not think thciD eiiti. tlcil (o. The liop. Gentleman touclnded a speech of considerable length by moving several rcscitu tions, the substance of which was. That to pcr- '"'(any persons to hold a pecu.-.i irv some check, and without calJi,,: trust �T!(bout regularly for lead to evils the mo-the very -......,.-,x,vr. "i-re to be found io the history nf that country which proved the contrary, especially when the spirit and courage iif the Portnaucse were animated by the co.opera. tioii, tiie exam|)Ir, and the courage arid skill uf British troop;;, They would have the same disposition during the late in Prtrtugal, had proper care been taken to rouse their patriotism, and (� acquire their confidence, liut lh�y had no confidence or esteem for the per- dis played operatioiLs Lord GREJiVILLE shortly supported the ioi:, und avowed his preference for callini; ... Cortes, Yather than re-establishing a Governmerit which vyas.. .t^lioiis. to so largo � por----' I a. a remenera.ion for t!,eir servid? h /r^' fully ahused the confidence're "i;?;. 'r^.^'^.Tt he Co^m,.s:,..,ers sf,od aceo,mtal.!e loX'/4b I>c for such su,,,s, and ,h.t Ih.Ir ace.�,.s o..; "tj oi the ; be referre;'. f-, Auditor^. sons of whom Sir Hew Dalrymple had composed the Regency. On the contrary some of its members w;ere objects of suspicion and distrust. The Papers he should move for would sliew how the peoplc.and the troops were disposed towards the Regency which the British Commander had appointed, and the mischievous inJiuencc whirJi it hud on the alTairs of bath of Portugal atid Spain* He.hoped such an unCr.'uiiate result would be an admontion to iVliuistcKs for tlie future ; and that they would recollect that it was the discontent and ill.hlood- r.iisvd by the aj 1}--------- reply, when the tjuesiinn w rst motion, and negatived without a c'ivisioa. Lord DARNfiEY again put s-veral questions t*) the iVuble Secretary of Stale icspccling the intention of Government with r-g.^rd to Mr. I'Vere, and asked whether Mr. I'rere had been recalled. liOrJ LIVERPOOL declined giving answer to tlie latter qticstion. Indeed he did not think it a projier quer-tion, or one lo 4,0 give an The Com.mitfpe ^vcff. of man tlie CommJfsionerS. nioii that rhc lie for the claimed, and that the auilitor.^ mi rest on the sums tiiey li'S^f cnfr;K kers, as well as i himself com])etenl ' jouriud. which he felt answer---Ad. , HOUSE OF co.\i.m\s f 1 there m.,,t he a d ni-iniee ?�f4eitkv or- ttirtiir^'i^'fii .'"u* (""f'tv C'untry", adaiivb,..t?VHr*V- i""' "'>*within gUtnora r-.^-i.t.nivcicaic; mere, ^Ml4ra'^":''''4'^>r but a dairy. .,.it chartje m(r-ted to private h m-i>n the sums thi-y had a[i;ro;-.riuted to themselves-With fuch deducfions, they did not think 10,000/. would be too greats rewird for tlieir Services. He had no ohj rii n to h(.uld not he of neglect on yrs should esca[)e obser- e CFIANCELLOR of the EXCflF.QUER said, that measures had been already tikin lo put a stop to such abuses. JSa Administra ion could merit censure in this irtstance"!es3 than the present, ai the neglect did not originate HJth fhem.-No Goverumeirt could look into all of present A.lmini^trstion, as amidst nhich were necessarily fdtther t-re. matter of.surprse that no instance 'he part ^f their predec^ss vati'oii. ni -------i,uuiu jooK intc� All .k tf'.ose in office before them. L ,h  "een called to .sue.-, abusj^ then ;f ,7 'l^^?'^"^ glected to put a ston to thnL.l- ^''^ be regularly . -ii' ^""ry flitier d^criu-L^^'K n-d CatyinerbrHJich,..*^' a^^,^S^^'�J?!�'*.sto the efr,*, ____---DO hRnefi*-, but �on tti4 <:�n.trary, nuieh incimvenience lo tl;e public: service, frtun^hft.^iroiiiiction-of the' had urg' tiOLn;of.j;tip pecially motneot. abus'S slightly ,..�,v,. uvr oy im-w it might be Tfolation of Would lit) that ih pryciied against thi m. Mr.. ROSE thoucrhf ihe jPreasijr^ in who�e trtne theCommiS'sioncfS vrere firstjappoirifedOv�oW alwnu merit censure.-At the tiro