British Press, October 16, 1820

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British Press (Newspaper) - October 16, 1820, London, Middlesex "3  I .�i.:o.j,./ IVcatBteR 5573. LONDON, MONDAY^ pCTp^ER 16, 1820. Phice -7(i. THBATRR-iidYAL, COVENtHBARBES. rpHIS EVENING, MONDAY. October l6, JL . will be performed (tie Tragedy of VIRGINIUS; Or, THE LIBERATION OF ROME. ApphiR Claudius, Mr. Abb'otlVirjjiiiios,' Mr. Macready; Irilius, Mr. C. Keroblev Clauditts, Mr. Connor; Sl'icrius Deiitnlus, Mr.Yate.s^ Niimetorius, Mr. Egertun. Virginia, Miss Foole; Servia, Mrs. Corin'or. After wbich a ne�T Ballet, called LE,MARCHAI�rD D'ESCLAVES. To nbicb will be added (he Burletia of TOM THUMB THE GREAT. King Arlhor, Mr. Fawcell-, Tom Thumb, Master Lniitr-hursl; Lord Grizzle,'Mr. Lislon. Qiieea Dultalollu, Mrs.' Listun; Princess Huncamnnca, Mrs. Sterlinf!. DurinfTtlie.'recess the Theatre has been entirely new de-cuj-aled and embellished. A Private Box.may be bad (o y pulicslion at llie BoK Office. To-morrow, Rob Roy Macgregor, With Too Late for Dia, ner. On Wednesday, the Tragedy of Cymbcline, with Cymon. On Thursday, She Stoop! to Conquer-after which a new Ballet, called Pygmalinu. On Friday, The Stranger-after wbich, a new Musical Farce, called A Race %> a Wife. SURREY THEATRE. OPEN FOR ONE NIGHT ONLY. FOR THE BENEFIT OF MRS. DIBDIN. �^HIS EVENING, MOiVDAV, Ociobt-r l6. will be presented, for the first and only time at this Tliealre, a Melo-dramatic Burletta, in two acts, under the title uf AMANTHIS; OR THE CHILD OF NATURE. TheDukeof Murcia, Mr. Walkioson; Marquis Almanz.i, IMr. Bengougb; Count Valantin, Mr. Gomery (from-the Thi-alrp-lloyal, Havmarkct); .Seville, Mr. Brunton; Gra-�.-ijl:i, Mr. Ellis; AJberlo, Mr. Clifford.. The Marrbioneas MrnilK, Mi.is Norton; Amanlhis (the Child of Nature), .'Miss Cnpelaiul, who will introduce a Sung, accunipanii'd by hirsiir on the Harp. Afirf lUc Burletia, for the first time at ibisThealre, the very popular Ciiieduniau Spectacle of OSCAR AND iMALVINA; OR THE HALL OF FINGAL. The Highland Pipes by ftlr. M-Gra. The Harp Accom-p^iiiiurui (for lhi.ins, a deaf and amorous old Lady of Sf), Miss Cupeland .',' I.' Lounge, u lilfrary Fiip, Miss Cope-laud!!!!! Mademoiselle Josephiue, au Opera Singir fruui Paris, Miss Copeland!!!!!! Title cutertaiumeuts to conclude with the serious Melo-dramp. in thr^ ^cts, oi GEORGE BARNWELL. Thoroiighgood, Mr. Clifford; Barnwell, Mr. Adcock; Giiirqe Uuruwcll, Mr. Huntley; Truman, Mr. liruulun; .Wli/iir, Mr Ridi;way, Millwood, MissTavhir. '.{I'iffceis to lie had Mrs. Dihdin, N�. 2, Temple-place ; and at ilie Bjx Office of the Theatre, where Places may be A DELPHI THEATRE, STRAND. Hy Authority uf the Right Hon. the Lord Chamberlain. rt^HIS FKE.SENT MONDAY, OcioI.er l6, 1 TO-MORROW (TUESDAV), ai.d WEDNFJiDAY, wilT be prcscutid, for the 7ih time, au eutite New Scottish M.e-0-Dramatic Durlrtta, eulilled, ST. CUTHBERT'S EVE; Or, THE TOMB OF MONTEITH. Sulian Municith, Mr. Gumersal; ftl'Alh n, Mr.Watkins; Gu>- IIiMriik, Mr. Liji Venluie, Mr Callahan; 'Squire Jovial, Mr. Lee ; '.Squire RattU-pale, Mr. Watkins; Kuger Sieveskull, Mr. Wilkin.soii; IliimiWirey Nob, iVIr. Cowcll. Cara, Mrs. Way-lelt; Dolly, Ml^s Valefl. K\n Thursday will be revived the favourite burlelta of Fun and Fright. The Duoi.iwill open at Six, and the Performance begin a Uujiter hi f.uc Sevcu.-Second Price Ualf-past Eight. HAZARD & CO. Two Tyenly Thyusands must be Drawn NEXT WEDNESDAY. A This day, price In. GROAN FROM THK THRONE!! Broadway, Lndgale-hill, October 16. NEXT WEUNESDAV, THE^AST AND ONLY DAY, , WHER TWO Prizes of ....� iO,(IOO Sterling Money TWO Prizes of .. . 1,000 Sterling Money T\V6 Prizes of.... 500 Srerliiis; Money And various minor Capitals, with every other Prize, will be oil Drawn in S,x Hours on WEDNESDAY NEXT, ou which Day the Lottery will entirely finish. fH'^ lUSH, Coii'idQiO'- for lllB )ut;s�.i(H Lottery, H.  Bubmjls to his best Frieods, the Public)^ the above itiale of the Wheel, reminding them that One Day more will coorlude:ll>e Lottery. A few Tickets and Shaieo, war. ranted undrawn, are on Sale at his Offices, 4, Curuhill, aud y, Charingcross ; aiid by'aJI'his Agents in theCouiilry. No. 3,645, a Prize of 10,UI)OL iu the present Lot. tery, was Sold by BISH .'!! BURGESS* EsisBNCE OF ANCHOVIES. Warehouse, I07j Strand, comer of the Savoy-steps, Luoduii. JOHN BaRGESS ainl SON, bein^ apprised of the linnWrous endeavours made by many persons to impose a spurious article fur their make, feel it incumbent upon thrni'to request the'attenlion of the Public, io pur. chasing what they conceive to be the OrrgiiiBl,lo (ibserve the Nanicand Address currespouda with the abovt.--the general appejifanre of .tliespuriuu.4 descfiptions will ilcceive the uiu Kuarded? and for their detectiun, J. B. and Sun submit the following Cautions: some are in appearance at first sight TlteGeniiiiie;" but. without any Name or AddresX-some " Burgess's Essence of Anchovies"-others �'' Burgis'*"^ and manv more without Address. JOHN BURGESS andSON having been many years bouoored; willr such 'distioguished. apjirobatiou, feel �*ery scDiimrntDr.rrspect''towards'the Public, and earnestly so-licit them to laspecl the labels previous to purCiiaaing^ivliai thryconceiTc to beFiBl�.SiuCe'Wa�'ehoosei)' i � ' '"' PORT WINE QF FlN^ FLAVOUR AND FULL BODY, AT 34�. Per DOZEN. THOMAS AND RICHARD AnBOTT.S respectfully iuliirm their Friends and the Public iu general, that they have commenced buttling 100 .Pipes of the nbove Wines, which are all of most excellent quality. Families who wish tu lay in their Winter Stocks are respectfully solicited to forward their orders per Letter, Or to call at No. 10, Slipner-strcet, to taste the above Wines, the quality of which is far superior to any other that have been imported of the last tlirev Vintages. N. B.-All other Wines at equally low prices, aud of the first-rate qualities. On Tuesday, the 17lh imtaui, will be published. In 4tq, price If. ISj. iu boards, a new Volume (btiug the Fourth) IsTORV of ENGLAND, tontuining the llei^ni of Henry Vlll. aod Edward VI. By the Uev.JOHN LINGARD. Printed for J. Mawmau, 39, Ludgale street. ^ or wham may be had. The First Portion of this HISTORY, from the Invasion by the Komaos to the Accession of Heury VIII., iu 3 volumes, 4to. price bl. ha. Also, just published, TRAVELS in SICILY, GREECE, and ALBANIA, bj the Rev. T. S. Hughes, Fellow of Emanuel College, Cambridge, illustrated with fifteen Engravings and numerous Wood Cots, a vols. 4tu. price 5/. 53. in boards. THE QUEEN'S TRIAL. HOUSE OF LORDS, Saturday, Oct. u. The Lord Chancellor entered the House a feiv minutes bifore 10 o'clock. Prayers having been read, aud the House called over, The Earl of Carnarvon rose and begged le.ive to withdraw the motion which be had nutile yesterday. He moved instead, that Mr. I'lanta and Mr. Powell do attend at ihe Bar of the House. Bifure he sat down he begged to ask tlie Noble Earl opposite, whether he had given any, aud what directions, relative to the witnesses being furthcoming, in pur. suauic of the pledge which he had given the House? The Earl of l.ivripool said, he had not given any fpecliic directions, but it was the geueral understanding of the Law OIHcers of the Crown that the witnesses should not be sent away. From the examination of the person at the b^r of Ihe House yesterday, it appeared liiat he applied nl Ihe Foreign-Office fur a passport for Rastclli in the regular mauner; aod it was considered to be od at Ihe bar. ("uunscl were then ordered to be called in. Tlicy had entered at the same time with Mr. Powell, but they retired and now again presented themselves. Mr. Powell examined bp Ihe Earl o/Carnarvon; Mr. Powell has slated that Rastelli was sent to Milan on the Thursday or Friday after the rising of this House ; was tlwl on the Ulh or IdthSeprember The ISlh, on a Friday. Dti you know if Rastelli was directed to take dispatches iu his way to .Milan to Sir CbsWes Stewart at Paris ? I do uot. When you sent him away, at what time did you expect him tu return? I expected he wuuld arrive iu Milan, iu seven or eight days. 1 desired him to bring some papers which I thought might be required for this case; conse-queiilly I rxptrted Rastelli would liave relumed from Italy by the 3d of October, to have brought those papeis. Was Rastelli instructed to go any where but to Milau ?- No where, but to go uiiect to Milan. Do you ktiow if, about the same time, any other person who had been brought tu this country to give testimony in this cause, was sent back to Milan ? 1 know that previous tu that lime one person wa.'e purposes of quieting the alarms, &c. which Powell had meutiuued. He thought the question was perfectly proper, Slid tilting to be put. The Earl of Lauderdale agreed wilh his Noble Friend, that the object of the examinatiou ought to be aiiaiued, but bethought the proper question was, " wlictlier any llnliau persnu who had been sent for lo give evidence in this case, liad been segt hack lo Italy," aud to a questiou so framed be had no olijeclion. The Lord Chrncellor said, the House could uot he loo 'caulioiis in the questions they piit to ah agent, as there was ii'o relation more sacred. The question, he thought, bueht to be, " Have you uot senior pcrmilteil any other persou to 'go abroad wbb coiiht give ibel same information for which you aay you sent Ka'sieiti ?" , The.Earl iif Rosslyii ihoUKht the questiou here was, whether an agent iu ihe cause had 'bpeu dealing wilh onie of-Ihe witpeWes iii'a maiiiier which their Lordsliip.i niui.t condemn, atiil they w'eceViatiiiiiin^ liiin lo see if llie excii.e tend'i^iliiclrit to particulars', it euduuger' the intrresiB of his priitbipal. He wo�lii,'saVi Jbat whatever ail-vantage might be expected from ^lit,i that if questioins were proposed which were lurbidden to.b^pnt by the jaws of Eng-land,.if such questions went to bai;ar4 tfie, interests4if bis principal, the agent had a right refuse itit answer; arid whale ver inconvenience there might arise fn)m sucfi acir-rumstaure, the House must snlMnit, arid preserve the Hrst principles of the law of evidence from apy infringement., Lord Holland, with due regardfoif.the ail^lbority of iBr Noble aud Learned Lord un the Woolsack, uaderstood iliat the .Bill originated with a Secret Cainmitlee. of their Lord- ' shijis'llonse, by which their LiiMsliip.sweregiveii to under-stand that they themselves becaine.the pjroscculof�: uow he wished Iu abk the Noble and Learned Lurd^ if their Lord-ship.'), being the principals and.'pruaecutorH iu Ihe case, had n'ul a right lo rxumiue their owii agent as to his conduct in their own case ?-{Laughler^. The Lurd Chancellor replied tlial no question wbich the Noble Loid should put, whatever miglii be jhe popular effect of i), or uf the auKwer to it, Muuld ever ('oin|>el liim to answer a question, which', in his,..cpiiacieoctj be believed otight not lo be put,-(iaBriti.hipa iu comiug at,the truth, and nothing else. If tiie principals in this prosecution found lhat they could nut touiid a case, their simple duty was lo ahaiidou it. Their Lurdihips, as part of Ihe Slate, had undertaken lo conduct the prosecution,and ihey bad a right lo examine their own agents tu whatever parts uf the proceedings they might chuu>e. The wiiness was recalled. The lust qnestiuu and answer were ih-'ii read over, as was the succeeding questiuu, viz - Were any other witnesses sent away, to the best of your knowledge and belief ? To Ihe best of uiy knowledge aud belief no other wilucas was scut away ; 1 bave heard lhat two others bave guuc. At the time you resolved lo send Rastelli back lo Milan, had you iuquiied whether or uot it was probable that any of the witnesses would be permitted to return? 1 made no inquiry on Ihe subjecl. Vou stated, that from letters which you bad received, you had learnt lhat Rastelli was very ill; from whom did you receive those letters ? From Colonel Browii. Have you gut those letters with you? 1 have not got them uliont me. Have ynu had any communication with Rastelli yourself since he left Euglauii ? None, nur bave I made any com. miinication lo liini. By the Marquis uf Lansdowii-Did you instruct Rastelli lo goto any oilier place besides Milan? 1 have answered before that I did not. Do you consider the.witnesses for the prosecution to be under your diiection ? Certainly not. By Lurd Erskiue-Did you make Ihe application to Ras-lelli lo go to Milan, or was it made by bim to you ? 1 re-qnesled him to go. Solely fur the purpose uf quieting ihe minds of Ihe friends of Ihe witnesses? Solely fur that purpose. Solely for ihe purpose? And to take back some papers to Milan to be legalised. If yon were so anxious as you have represented to quiet the minds of the friemis uf the witnesses, how came you lo eiupluy Rastelli lo get papers legalised which must bave created delay ? I sent the papers by him to be legalised, in order tu acquire further proof, wbich I expected to have got from thence by the lime the House met ibeSil October. But did you inleud that the papers should not be left by Rastelli, or was he to go fiil'and call for them on his return ? I had nu expectalion at all on the subject ; the papers were lo be left, and if legalisetl'by Colonel Brown in time fur RastelliVietiirn, lliey werc.to be forwarded by him. By the Marquis of Lniisdii^vb-Will ibe witness stale what families he knows at Milau connected with the wit-iieiises at Cuttui^Garden ?' At Militu of in the uei^hbdur* hood; j , Bitbri'? "I cSiiiidf cariry'itt rtiy irtind the vartoua ^ilnesses apd tb.eir families. The iufocyi^tioo was not iiiieod^d for Ih'efiaiiiles'at Milan oiily, hpt the nieighbonrliobd; ' ~'Uid ybii' give insfrUciio'ii�,'td, Histclli to gaitotbe families abui^t the'iTeighbourlibbU tf MiTati"? � 1 Jbii'l recollect givi ing .him any precis.e instrnclious, but, 1 gvve him letters w'liirh he win to dtll?*ei' from the witnesses in Colloii-garrieo. Thettby meaas of Ihc^e .tellers from the witnesses, did J you propose to satisfy ^he friends of the witnesses ? Ves; i and by Raslelli's persouai appearance at Milan and in Ihe j neigbbourhoud. 'I bould you reajionably expect Rastelli lo go to the-famili'-s j in ihe neighhourbuod, having giVen him no positive iuntrue- j tioiis to thai efTecl ? Having spokrn to Rastelli lo take the letters to. the difTerent families, I bonebived that he would assUre Ifaem of the witnesses being safe; and 1 concluded that Odonel Brown would send him to iliOse persons. Did you think it possible that Ra.thel4lb; he might reach Milan in sik day! and six nights, which would be about the ZOih or 2Isl, leaving elevrii days to Ihe 3d bf October. To see the fantilfes (le woald bivetoiraviil to Muutserral; and then 10 Como : the distance uf Ihe former fiom 5]ilau is ten miles, and of the latter twenty-five. By Lord Auckland-Do you know whether the family of Cncbi, of Trieste, were iu a stale ofalarm or anxiety for liis safety nr not ? I caunol say. Do you know whether Rastelli took any letters lo his f:i-mily ? 1 do not know. Do you know the number of letters he tiarried wilh him? I do not. By Lord Ellenborongh-Did you write any letter to Culunel Browu on the subject of Raslelli's mission ? Yes. Have you preserved a copy of lhat letter ? Yes,-I have a copy, but not here. Caii you produce it? Yes, I could, but it contains much matter of a dilTerent nature relative to these proceertincs; it is part of a Confidential correspondence, whch from ihe nature of my sitdation I carry on with Colonel Brown, and which I therefore have an ubjeetioii lo produce. The witness was ordered lo wiihdraw. The Earl of Dsriingion then rose and said that i'*- person who had just left the bar was not called as a wilueiis either for the prosecutiuu or for the defence, but appeared to be examined by ihe order of ihe HoUse, but in uhat ea-pacity ihey bad called un him, whether as jurymen, or as judges, or by Virtue of Ihe privilege of Parliament, he was at a loss lo knuw. But ii appeared lo him,thai after lie had been eximiued by Ihe House, the t:uunsel on both siUrs ought Iu bave the liberty of putting queslious to him, coti-finiiig themselves to the matter which bad occasioned the necessity of his being called. Earl Grey Ihuught that after his examination Counsel should be allowed to retire, and after having deliberaleil, should be permitted lo suggest any questioui. which ibey wi�h�d to be put to the person at the bar. The Lord Chancellor said, that the House, iu calling for Ihe attendance of this person at their bar, had acted upon the rules of their proceedings, which uuiliurised theiii lo r.ttl upon any person wbuin Ihey had reosuu tu siippuse iwssessed of iufurmaliun, which it was desirable fur the ends uf justice lhat Ihey should get at, whether he was or was not called by the Counsel on either side. Their Lordships might finally permit any question to be asked at the suggestiuu of Cuun-sel, confiitiug them to the subject matter now before them, witb reference to wbich this discussion had taken place, and not calliug upon Ibe wiiness lo betray any confidence reposed in bim by bisclieuts He apprehended, however, that uo Noble Lord uoght tJ put questions which would not be permitted iu ibe Courts below. They must, however, give Counsel credit for asking only such questions as were material. ) Lurd Auckland said the question now before them was simply this, whether or uot, wlieu an attorney in a cause has cumniitted an act in violation or delay of public justice, the Cuuit cno examine bim as lo mailers which he declaivs he cannot disclose without a viulalion-of private confidence ? The l,ord Chancellor replied In a vrry low tone, inaudible, below the bar. Earl Grey then wi>lied Mr. Powell to he again called in. That gentleman being replaced at the bar, JEarl Grey le-sumed his examination. 1 understand Mr. Powell to have stated, that he had written tu Colonel Browu, communicatiug the uatiire of Kas-telli^s mission-can he produce the whole or thai part of the copy uf his letter cuutaiuiug that commuuicalion ? 1 ubjeel lo the pruduetiou of the whole of that comniuuicatioii, being coitfideatial and arising out of my siliialiun. Do you object to pr�duce either the whole or any part of thai communication ? I conceive all communicalious made by me lo Culonel Browu, or by Colonel Brown to lue, as confidential communicalious made by and tu nie, as an agent fur ihis Bill; aud considering myself iu that character, 1 object lo Ihe production of all or any part of my cor-respondeuce relaling lo that subject. 1 understood yuu yesterday tu say, that yuu gave Ra:itelli a positive iiijuucliuu lo return on or. birfore >he third October ? I remember I told him to use every exertiuu Iu le. turn by that time, or as near it as he could. Did you give him any reason for wisliiug him to return by that tiiii--? 1 du nut recollect slating any particular reason. 1 uuderstuud yuu yesterday lo say, that you did not ex-peel Rastelli wuuld be wanted before Ihis business would be proceeded upon in the House uf Cummuus? As a wiiness. Wliat was your reason Ibcu for givini; him such posilive iiijuiictioua tu return by the 3'1 of October? Because 1 wanted him to return wilh the papers which 1 scut, and which 1 conceived I iniKht waul lu use ou the resuinpliun of the proceedings on the 3d of October. And not with a view to his btiug examined further iu this House? The necessity of his being called as a witness in the further proceediugs in this House, did nut suggest itself to me. Tne Counsel for the defence having stated that they had iiu further questions lo ask any of the witnesses in sup. purl of Ihe Bill, I cuuld nut conceive this witness would be called fur as a witness by them. You were aware, however, of the opinion of this House, that all the witnesses should be kept iu a slate lu be reproduced if necessary at any time during this inquiry ? That ttie Huuse had su decided. The question repeated by Earl Grey ? 1 am not aware that this House made any urder lhat the wiliiesses in support of the Bill sbuuld be kept in readiness to be again exa. mined ; but I uuderstood, lhat on the future proceeding] uf the Bill they should be ready tu b^ recalled, if necessary. Yuu bave stated that you were present when the First Lord of Ibe Treasury said that directions should be givcu that all the witnesses should be so kept ? Certainly. Were you not therefore aware lhat Rastelli as well as the others was not tu be removed ? I can only say thai it did nut immediately eoggest itself to me when 1 was sending Rastelli, or 1 should nut have sent him. Could uot those witnesses who were sent back at the time of Raslelli's going, have answered all the purposes or as. suring Ihe families of those who remained of tbeir safety ? 1 conceived Rasielli to be the most pioper person, because lie accompanied them lo lliis cuunlry, aud I believed hiiu lu be well acquainted wilh their families. Then you meant hint to bave a personal communication wilh their families ? As far as wasi in his power. Yuu conceived thai he %vaa the best agent to have a per. sonal communicaiiuu wilh ihe families of the witnesses, lu assure them of their safely ? I thuught him ihe besi person tu have a communicaiiuu with the families of Iho.e indivi-duals for that pn'rpuse. Vour reason, ilien, for seudiiig back Rastelli, was that be might have such cunamuBication ? My reason for sending Rasiellibacfc was that he might take letters from those iudi-yiduala lo their families, and personally assure them uf their safety.. ' Can' you state of your own kndwiedge, as agent in this caiise,' whether aiiy' of ibf wiiiieriseai'Who have been examined iirthis cause, bavfi ibeir families residing at Milan?-[A pause eusncdj and thec li.e journey in six or seven d.iys? In six dajs and nijlHs. I� lhat the lu ist fcXpeilitioils rale of pert'onnin* Ihe journey ? Usiiis: ordinary diligence; a courier couUl go lo Milan in six days aud Uithts; and 1 have known couriers g.j there io a less period of liiUe. Do you think a courier could go to Milin and return 1 i fourteen days? I think he might. Did you expect Kaslelli would return in that time ? ( cannot say whit I expected ; \ have known couriers perforn; Ihe journey to MiUn io siit or seven days. Is lhat Ihe least tinle required for going and coming ? 1 do not say the least lime. What time did you ihiufc was necessary for him to (I>riii� the comniissiun of cummiiiiiraiini; wilh liic families nt [L'-wilness.'S? Supposing him lo leave tiivvn on the eveiiiii;^ of the Mill, he would arrive iil Mil.in on the -iOiH, allowii;^ sik days for his return, seven days would be left for Iti.^ puipose of lb it conmuiuiriilton. Did Colon. I Bro�ii in his letter stale the dale of Ra>lt I'.r. arrival at .Milan ? I do not l-eeoHecl. If yon refer to the liller and find the dale have yoii any objeciiiin to eomnuinicate ii ? Mtine cxc^-pt a iji.ntr.il -.-Ij. jeetiiMi to the production of a coiihdeiilial ci>rre.i))OM Are any of them iu Enalnnd? One man wlio wasinju.id remained till herecoveiid. Was lb,re not a woman amone them ' Y(�. Is lhat woman returned ur is .Oie in EnglamJ ' She is i;i England. By Lurd Kenyon-Did R.istelli bring more than uiie set of witnesses? I do noi know a� to that. What are the names of Ihe wiintSMes bioouht by IliFteili ': 1 do not recollect their names ; snnie uf itieni I iM'\(-r saw. Could you not I)y inquiry liiid out their uunit s ? I euuM. By a Peer-Canyon lake upon youivielf to -ay hIuu is ilie crealesl dislaure of any of the families of lliuse �itues3e3 froiHiMiiao? t cannot say. Did you conceive that tlastelli would he able Ui cum-municaite wilh them from Milan? I thought Milan con-veuient fur such commuiiicalion. Lord Laudeidale observed, lhat he had never seen such ^ proceedin;; iu any Court of Justice before iu the course of liis life. Their Lordships had ixamiiied and askell the \til-iiess, whether he knew the witnesses aeparale lesid.nces, to which lie replied, ** No." Vnu have then examined him as lo what were their residences? Now if he had ruiitradicleil himself npun ualli, he (l.ord Lauderdale) wuuld ahl; what kind of a situation their Lordships would be placeit. Lord Liverpool said, lhat as to the date he ai rived, it stated ill the letter, he withdrew any thing ou piurcBsiunal grounds, which Sir. PottCll might Ihiuk opposed his telling the lime he arrived. H�d yon any conlrul over Rastelli ? Pir;ouallyl had no control, lieeause I do not know I ever had any control over hlin. I have already staled lhul'1 do not Ihink any other person would do as well. Earl Grey-DoCs the Noble Lord ohjecl lo Ihe question ? Lord Laiitierdjie-I meant an ohjeclion lo the ex3mina-tiou uf ihe wiiness.-(Orrfer, order.) Mr, Droiigliam was proceeding lo speak, when llie Lord Chancellor said, � The Lords are not done, .\|r. Brougham." Examined by Lord Daruley. In answer to the last ijuesUoit, the witness lias st-ikd that Uaslelli, and Ihe rest of the wilnessci, are not under his direc tioiis or control-I beg to know under wbo-^^e ihcy are ? I can scarcely say under whom, but 1 conceive them lo be oiider ibe control uf Goveriiiiient, Who is llic person immediately authorised by Government to see after lliesc witnesses, do you know whom? There aie several persons who reside in Ihe place uitli ilieui, uuder whose immediate direcliun they are-whether llii^ are iit,Jtp ttu-ir control or not 1 do nut know. I am uot able lo reconcile the answer wilh the admiisinu lhat Kasklli, one of the witnesses, was sent by luoi to .Milan. In point uf fact, are persons admitted to see the wii-neases, or in point of fact refused by Mr. Powell's order-? 1 have i^iven directions that persons should be admitted I'l see the wiluesses-fA pause)-and certainty 1 have aiveii ilirecliuiis lhat strangers should be excludul; I have givcu ilireelions that any person who mii;lit wish to see Ihem siiould not be adiuitied, because I tliuo'^ht it iiicuiisislenl. Examined by the Earl of Ceiby. I UMder.stuod Mr, Powell lu slulc lhat he did not coHceive Rastclli lu be under his direction and control, thereloie I wish to ask him, under what authority he look iipou himself to send Rastelli out of this country? As a person assisting in support of this Bill, 1 considered that 1 hud a right to send Rastelli to Milan. Did Mr. Powell send Rastelli out on the aulhority of his own mere motion, without any communicaiiuu with any ulher aKCiit in the cause? I don't know whelhtr 1 ever made an absulute commuuicatiou, l kuuw i spoke tf it generally, I itinde nu secret of it. 1 did not ask whether you made any serrel of it, but whether you had the power to send thai person out uf the cuunlry, and did you give direcliuiis sulely from yunr own head that he should go ? I du nut reeullect a cninmunicaliun to any other persou -. it is possible 1 might. �f'heii you look it solely upun yuurself lo send this per-oii, whom you did not consider under your own control un ttiis occasion, out of the country ? I took on myself to do it. Lord Kenyon-I put a question to the witness, whether he could ascertain the names of the witnesses who came over wilh Rastelli ? and he answeied that he could-iiowl hope he will be directed lu do so. If any Nuble L^ad ulijects lo it, I will take the seuse of the House upon i:. i shall submit it as a miikjun. Mr. Powell-I dil not say that I knew the witnesses brought over, my Lords. 1 have no peisunal knowledge of them. Lord Kenyon-I request the short-hand wriler to re^ul lie questions I put lo the wiiness, aud his ans�i i� I" ili. lu. The short-hand writer then read Ihe quet-iiuii- :n.u Bwers respecting the names of ihe wilueasts Kisielli liioui.!,: over, from whirb it appeared the witness had staled, ilrii, upun inquiry, he could find their names. Lord Keuyun-l move that be be directed to inquire th ; natiies, vvliicli was understood lo be asseiiied lu. The Eail of VVincliilsea-I wish lo a^k Ihe wiiness whether he has any uulhorily to send hloi uul of the rountiy ? If he wished lo go, 1 had no aulhority to slop hiin; if i-.f wished logo, he was under no restraint. I rousidered l.im 1 at liberiy. I conceive that he was under no legal restiaiiit. I The llord Chancellor-Does any other Noble Lurd wibli , lu put any quesliuii ? i Mr. Brougham-Will your Lurdships permit me lo ask j who is his employer or client in Ihis case?-" Ao, no." j Mr. Brougham-Will your Lordships allow me lo give i the reason why we consider it important ? It is a questiuu ; put fur no purpose except fur the purpusea uf justice, and I lu enable us duly to defend our lllnstriuus Client; aud, my ' Lords, I Eubmil lu yunr Lordships that it is most important .; lo us to be enabled' to put this qiieition lo this witness, as j the firat witness who has-beeu called^n the course of ihese proceedings who can give thi'i iuformatiuo. Is it nut au| ;

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