New York Times, The (Newspaper) - February 1, 1873, New York, New York VOL NEW-YORK SATURDAY FEBRUARY 1 1873 PRICK FOUR TWEED'S JURY They Last ing with Juror Important from Jir i a ury by itn 1 H H to cim O in LDe in of lion enl f z in nt tno iiix oT IbiK City to n 11 n Uio in of HTK n of mom uid ru t n world ban over known ik inn and tun 1.1 tlu in nnl 11 i t'i T 1C lion in o N Ol tlir it 4 unlv rut w of IM No o tbo In In Aint t anil Ui the h IM ihm of it in tlut tlin result or tun wia forward to witb bj tbo uf tJie nuit thp of Nor a or bias of and ui trie tint be out to of and Kio was Uon of tho ami to by OD tbo did not produce any at the of tbe chief tbo only feature u rumor tbat to liio tbaC would fatal to the eatiM of and true to hid old thn or big efforts LO fli thinns Daily croot try In ami the c I sine of Mr It to call attention to lu the tile Court and Jury But fulled of and explicit character waj prove DO was broil it and tbe and thu and able of the Court no conviction wus cured late on Thursday meo d capita fears 10 tbo contrary that a conviction would bo but when lengthened luto loan and tno urr did not men were to think tnat of woald prove and Bf the trial would CMS for tbe BOM An In the Jury np for the aud crowd tQc cor- and of the the verdict For an hour before the room was It utterly ble to a tho man wbo and uf the and in entering the of officers who permitted to Clip private duors two Kind of the earliest bo the coart they mere tut to any and 1 and con- with one At Iho door and a rush was made fur No to of obtaining a inr which Id to obtain a view of tba defendant Jurr anil sturdy and of the people a more reward were promptly In but it WM painfully evident that had IOSE all o a by the jury Tney took by QIH counsel put lu an With Ibe inmost he loot bm pi u-c ami of M rt well put to the on the him ui tin usual be the of His bun tbo sou of but lr would bf to My th it tn at Hie 1 h MI- J the inJ win nninediiktely for tht ir r In the when i tie sulo door an I lie officer in man In Court to a load burr ran whole room With a look probably want of tl e the Jurors took tUey so one at them and for round and to re- i wax the last time be looted tin b of the boi anj the AA if the at of detained him bio DM when H which bin accustomed iv Jury was then cod tbe in reply to the Clerk meot was not 1 of ran court of were everywhere and but one remark was on every side that the wbo Tweed's were bribed Their dlil aot Mind to tbe belief bad Davis further than rushed out of the court In the Ucen of a few waa bat iSo dlJ not back at tbe court after they to no Alteo and of the court bow they but they declined 10 state had not to so Tma n may be is toe in tint in a re- to how Hiey stood aud ao there to know the tbe were of mauner m Tweed bis work and tu appease public ell Ui own ters tlic to havo am to public for wan remarked by a advocate if a in irom a v of -t 1.1 to five it wua he and art iu made will If It Bar ou Monday iho nli vein tu left court Mr i trial ami uv llm aod De ul HIP adjournment of buffered round tne iu comp to But K-e K-e yaw ff r V IU Cuy Jh u u MhMT rilt Jl H V m l lx Mr agreed upon a verdict and tbe re- plied mat hud dot there my prospect of able to Mi foreman I Tho replied iliac ho not he not after a fow minutes I suppose you have nil efforts lo and I do not see Ibut nny benefit can result from vmi oai longer At tho Hume time if nny of of thp would like 10 express any opinion on that I should luc to hour him lo the of A J up them w IH no They II o'clock it yon nro linen th men M I1 tin iIM nun V pen III nio K e Ol C i n n r in lie i1 i d 11 ii o n i IMI In f tii cm Hie or I UK xiii p e on im to I un- i I n M urn vc lii IH in v nn and On thn ull lei t tn n Mi 1 lie K most und in if tin ch tiv a t ro ut mime feel r Mich us Ins unn til Ii kvo to arrive 111 1 TIKI Hit It IH und for the furtherance of public Justice result i v m ii it ttn move of HUM iu at irini Ihn Court to u of juro s lo llo and w Ii i lie ii i1 Mr We think your Honor request li nun I mill not lo lie to We been now tlie better of weeks the of in thn of the cime mo all Wo do not feel able In enUr ou tbo ot The upon body as woll us very boon iu u not for an v body to lu uim I for oui o iiro sucu atmosphere mother weeks sidos Mir notified tho civil is lo bo brought on peremptorily on the of February with an intimation thut it will bo culled ot MS ord r upon right ot preference tiy and our at- tention mum be to u mid hiw beea in part and need all iho time wo cuti from other lo prepare for it Wo think it Ix1 a very grout if we bo forced into A of this caso now aud wo think moreover that there ought a little time for us all to before wo operation that will lie linelT lo heat in tills hus done for It has un of hem all u roll int We do cot suppose this case Is 10 bo tried others This is tbo mal court ID Clio City The m full of this is u of aud wht It Lc sought lo bo taken out of nary do not pte of a caae being taken out of tho ordinary course because of clamor the or In the newspapers is to Justice u tends to pervert Its course and we protest It those persons of loot crimes be tried It is of more importance lHan that this cuso of misdemeanor should bo tried These arc public considerations tho others are ones and on we but 10 the trial of tills case Kunig on again Mr Honor tbe counsel icots three lor noi going on witL the trial on account of tho meutal and on counsel for iho The t in this caso bus bad the fortune to ho by oi different counsel iho prosecution has been conducted as far us the labor has concerned by two by thn advice and aid of in person I also the Court may take notice of tho fact thul the senior counsel for the prosecution bus come ibo lobor of weeks In tnc caso preceding and there at least an strain and labor on side tnat wo are to enter now ou another trial nml wo do QOI feel that Cto strain upon us ban been so groat but that wo to enter upon Iho of another It strikes me that of for tnc if those who took u particularly part worp others tho might lie As for the civil suit I I am engaged In if aud br und lauor of It arc on mo with this now although I too tugo in the civil suit of the aid of tho associate Mr Of if when tac civil hint on be tried we an- on thin cube It ho reason for adjourning the civil unit An IH that thorn uru numerous for imw io ami public justice he tried i the is not charged with of public and If the In dis- ot Ins duty seus Ut tu movo for ibis of misdemeanor to by which wus 11 oni the public treasury alono is Be the judge nf what is that a case U entered should be brought to a shall Ibut a man in guilty or Sot aud therefore I that the feol some embarrassment on dun motion w hich not arise out of tne of counsel nor of the has noi been taken nuo 1011 Mr Your Honor is of age Ann I lo feel my age It from I inn a i to Uio of this in on thu regular lenti would be two coin is It uio is litlle mere Mr tb it Iin was lu id lie Conn on trie Mr Ic lau the term ou Them Is no bis an a nt gives Hie to un ettu prosecution ID cunt mid they on the n the of ried aud ou one uf U com- mit him without ball Down o was uo ou tho ol lou In laiu now be- foro fat nn we know was first HUB first presented We cony on of Ocloher and did lut receive n until the of November so hat tins is scarcely iwo dd The through n lor weeks ll U a tno prosi can pick out the most timi lor him If ibo Coin t he n power the of tne Court can arrest tion in hat the the as t of tns Mayor October They put born trials tho public lu oue I MUW there is 1111 in licio n which tuey seem lo exult the efforts to whip lu this Jury If iiro 10 be breathed lino ihn ty at this und every is by to men against uim I U la a serious consideration whether Do is to a fair aud Impartial trial not iiir but impartial and whether be would ho to his at this time If Mr to tho ot Mr Tweed a wu do oot If tbe people are so n thu uf counsel as tu make it woith while for to entirely tu their individual ot are uol disposed to up ull their nmo to caae If Mr is joned to give himself to this it Is disposed of ouo way or other lor tbe wuo arc down witb il not be compelled tu the to Mr is willing ness there 14 ou tho part ol tbo public in him tried thuy ought to bo for tbo for will see every effort was by the Court and the authorities lo t o a JUO bad a to All u lo tbo Jurr are lor Mi spoke us if It a conclusion Mr Tweed u mid thai there must uu i me uol 10 he or be would uo his ne iu which llm was o Jury yi Hie hud made their if noi a on irial would Uo at havu after both Kides You did ik for A of luo 111.1 ou luo of ol itr ui 1 Hir wo for anil our were 10 Uo dilatory Honor you tola tlut tne thai n mo j Him not t Mr HC ror delay ou davit Judge I will n Mm tins und L i i The conn men j W UA I 11 Dutrict 1.1 v af f H ivin unnk pi oner O I 1114 Nor 1 A aud in Ul crod with Iho second trial of Tweed DO srent delay ho tno result an tho term of tho and on Monday noir and it be loomed uruper by and other sel for tho they then tbo for a now trial will probably bo done Important Strata Mr Mr mado tbo following statement tu a reporter I nin from my and Ion in HUH of Tweed and to tho thul of in of Now York its IH tho mockery of III tho world the in power by means of Iho laws that havo boon in und Jurors to or acquit ut mid that snino live or nf no til i or a fair and can be liad In this City In Rinc n Jury law IIH purt of thp to nnd power luw maito the Com- missioner of Jurors tho exclusive an to of who to IBP list from Iho Jurors to IIP Therp IH not even any property required tv In the State in that respect und ho may put In u Tli 11 only lo Iv IH one Mo may If they nro not worth but IH no to party to to a on tho Iin lias no ty who jurors that Iho panel Is drawn from may summon jurors an will answer their purpose and ns no from which you can judge whether my arc Just I will state thn ful contrast m tho character and of ibe Jurors as a general thine In the and In tho Tweed In the Stokte the that should bo convicted causo ho bad killed Fmk who watt n of Rtnc und a loss tn who In court boon drawn and properly summoned were remarkable for their On the oilier In the casn wlm wore for their parent want if and In both thin circumstance of thn in tho for- caso nnd the waul of it in the latter was tho subject of universal comment fuels In the case out of n of 100 Jurors summoned by ihu Court and drawn only twenty-nine persons appealed from whom tho principal portion of tho Junirs wore drawn remaining Jurors wore required to appear on a Dai morning in court tho trial oil nu order granted by the Court to show why they should not bo fined for at tho time the jurors were called In n body during our trial and for their nnd their such a contrast to tbo jurors on to boa subject of surprise und no man could observe without noticing It jurors came forward lo give their excuses In for their 11011 and the their upon paper which hod upon to why should not bo In cnao ll ap from statements and IB by the Judge upon record Iho only why did not appear WHS thuy hail not boon summoned D nil and in i hey slated Unit hey had been At homo about heir business on tho day whin the was required to summon AN Nnw thut there should bo only nine jurors summoned out of 100 by tho IH nue of from which all men nrc as well as to draw opinions The It IB known wan u and political friend of Tweed I am but I know not how the truth ic ho of Jurors who UD the list also his nnd friend 1 am also I know Hie of County in whoso presence ns veil us thut of trio Sheriff Jurors ordered by the Court are to bo drawn IH also his personal and political friend It was perfectly apparent Irom the start that wo were id ho In this by a dis- qualified Jury In th of fairness impartiality und yet there mi required from tin in counties In the of Jurors law the oi elusive Judge of inim und tho tmt three pi were SOOM to discover we worn unlit and We dis- covered since tlie trial other thai loud to show tho nf in the City of New-York under the luw and the administration of Iho that lino while the King won m power and nnd fortifying citadel of Hint to courts the of Iho Jurors anil tho ad ml of c 111 ICV A IN THK Wu now one if in thin caso a mini totally destitute of bo was was called a on the docks was never known or for with a de- cent suit of clothes until ho up icd by some brought into court Although Iho that ho wus uol either or by ropy yoi 100 names wero culled by the Clerk before drawing out tbe mimes of tho Jurors this man and answered to Ins name IIv mysterious process he was brought into court be guessed liy those who know that tue counsel for tho prisoner furnished with a copy of before tho Jurors names culled aud lu linio for this man to have brought m us a Juror Another if it la reported to mo was a mock aud I told his will appear in tue bo advertises every day tdr for sale liy a Just none o mid that thin has been for moulds AN EX CONVICT Tlir Another of at ler tie truil boon at Va of an against nue sentenced to ouo year's meiH in nt that lie had served out his time hut it is proper to add that we learned that ho was pardoned by iho ou tnc last day of Ills Npw If Commissioner of Jurors decided that this man a man of good moral character which is the only law of 1870 iu Jurors m City ot him tho exclusive of thu aud wus final and con- from which we can learn kind of of- ficer made und nu own of nmy bis of by you us well is by me ON JURIES A of thn as wo have an affidavit to show ban mat ho nnd found on u in substance and if he could only net on thn lurv in Tweed's he could deal u haVu un showing Tammany men warm personal of tbo and wore In frequent with soino of Ibo Jurors ibo und one wus to call out 10 one of men very by his hailing tion that one of the Juron juror bad Invited him lo RO to a certain place and moot a third party not belonging to the Jury The counsel wero overwhelmed during tho trial showing that tho Jurors woald never give a against Tweed assigning various but declining lo disclose their for tear of of exposure The reports that lo nu oue sources and from Intelligent bora of tno liar and wern that the Jury was so constituted i hat U would lie impossible lo anything else than au acquittal or a We wero obliged to UHO our last in rid of a before was given upon Hint bo waa lo doelde fairly Reconsidering iho question whether wo nnd information to no to break up tho trial but ns Constitution of the Tinned H Ui IPS no man shah be put in for tbo via to lo an appeal to lie Court lo wo a discharge would us n luir to any tion nf the the Wo therefore to proceed with i no perfect and belief Him ull we could hope or expect to accomplish wus a of jury uad with strom that there would not he integrity and fairness In the jury to prevent an THK CASK TUB Tne made too was eo strong nnd tho nf tho so clear Hint heie IH no jury thut could bo found in of and 01 this City that in my would haye before rendering a verdict of guilty mnn who hus a trial m a Civil or criminal sun In tho City of muat lor his the name list drawn In tne ence uf iho summoned In tho same manner as was dono in the case of Stokes and my Judgment tbe of forra an immense of labor to perform before work will be donp and tho most thing that now IH lo clear out these Augean tbo lion und of Jurors In ibo City n f Yoi k This had been Dy reason of tho character of tho Jury alone a er v nnd to tne nume ol justice prosecution accomplished everything be accomplished by nioi Idl mini Thn indictment was every Tile of tbo people's wore fully and fairly developed on the trial There wnn not any left unproved A trom the Court clearer more marked by nnd In u more lor Its dignity and has pronounced In ibo State of York Nothing but partiality or other tives you can well as I could have prevented a prompt oi guilty In my judgment It be for the people wbo are mainly Interested In the system of tho City of New-York lo whether that system shall remain unchanged nnd by or in a great wrong to their humiliation and or will procure u thorough reformation or the evils have been sn plainly developed by ibo line experience THE OF BYBTBM I nm well that some of tho purest and most Intelligent Jurors In country are sons wild do not possess a property tlon bin I allude to the exceptional nf tho legislation hero to show thut It Is lint like that which obtains in every oilier county of the tho Juror 18 to possess certain property qualifications 1 don't menu in anything I have saul 10 make charge auy I am of defects of the system ask exists and of tbe facilities that aio afforded in protection of the of political power mid Influence residing in tbe City when charged with ibo of offenses against law of tbe country When tho overruled a principal challenge 10 u a to the furor was them m win eli was died br the two first Jurors and jurors bud u in power to sal aside or admit Juror that waa called to whom a challenge to tho had been In my Judgment this should bo changed and the Court alono should be made tbo of An- other grout evil tu In tho people to throe In capital wore formerly allowed By ibo act of they wero allowed three Both panics ID my Judgment in all In capital cases and in misdemeanors should bo allowed twelve or With and as will readily suggest to who out of tho present I see no HOO now with a now Judiciary arid ao slate of things existing in New-York lu doubt Justice be an well lu nny locality In tho such tho nro that a und criminal may easily escapo and defy all 10 him In ihli Cnv Mr said that tbo Jury in tlie stood for anil live tor acquittal In regard to tbo eleventh Juror IHI said ho received numerous communications but lo buy mulling on tlie What thr el cbfi furj A called on Mr Louia heini of Tweed jury at bin No Third last Mi mainiers are frank and wus talking in an acquaintance when the reporter bnt nt once forward on learning thul n to speak with him Mr having invited reporter to br oil the following conversation I 10 ask yon for flome as to how tbe Jury stood in the Tweed Mr I would be only loo glad to give von any motion I could on the hin I cannot Why nut t Mr 1 will tell von lie 1 never on a lurv m uiv lite until I went on of Tweed LINI ter wo entered ilm one of Hie jury proposed that each man should un uatn not to reveal anything that took und I not knowing how things would turn out took without I rim heartily now thai I did ukc oath aud could unseal my Who wus tbo Juror thai proposed Hie Inking of I Mr That I you an it la u ol whut look place In Dm each man oil the Jury lake the 7 Mi All of them li IH stated in onn of the papers thai yon with two others whoso names were the three Jurors who held out Mr conviction 1 Mr Ai n helm Thut lu false Tim case was loo plain honest man lo doubt Any nmn who conld count two throe could seo that It was fraud ull over Urn recoiled Ing you muat remember lam under and cannot speak any more on this Tho of tbe Jury us to how stood has given to rumors as J you iiro Mr YPB In the papers ana have worried very but wo dot sai what luev and we not opou our lips Time will tell tho whole truth though Then you say you give any ou tue subject I Mi No I I wish I could I would willingly in inn Bui I know would uut 1110 to violate inj nut Mi truth may oin in a fpw and If I goe tnat any uf the the nf I mull fotil iu sending for you und idling you Mie whole truth Tho public will sen how Jury divided Mr Urea und und vci j lunch of mo and worry on the disagreement I tion Ue that ho not believe thut Jury if they had been until Not wishing to en gloss mine of Mr Haio was Iho Having by for lie i time Im vci v ri to the d Mr Henry M Williams a claim WUN not reticent aa Mr Mr found at thn corner of Broadway and lie uf IMP iin lo by Mr Rockwell HH a ed or hv Tnr he us tu ingn thut look In the lury In llo did not lint -in in thn 1 um- ber nf the wbo stood lor mil i Im that Held out for IK Im felt tree lu say and of Uils lie gave most positive thai the lury Hrood for and for cur When If much on tin in Tilt blurted out Oh no 1 We from the time we tne At It o'clock wu hud ui rived at which until we 11110 Mr hud tint ot of too much lo tlm by tlm or to to during Tho roomy he -.MIS barely in nnd Mr Jurors wurn obliged to In und tn of the nf wno wero In fun her HH Jury the irmi ut nil retiring Mr abruptly closed Uji unn tenng about how son y he was ho could impart no further information Mr C lime tenth juror is nt u and at Iho en to Central Turk Mr Iliac Is A young but a firm believer in 11111 i uie of Ills duty bo mild he Man formed conscientiously and other Jurors bud performed theirs ho believed in tlm If ever meo on tho inu nf mis tried to come lo a conclusion we did mud Mr To all flintier questions HIP pleaded his mudo in 1110 Jin v room In this connection it may bo staled thut Mr tbo of Mr to the that un oath had been by he to the Jurors Another ef A reporter of THE tlie Jurors an thuy tiled into and oat of court followed them down tbo Blairs and asked one of them in us M ho would to stating how they stood thn Tins juror shook Ills and mado no answer Another wbo was approached ately after said Jurors run told nny one uow they Blood ami did not then intend lo do so Tawing from tbe to a ing a court wan met He had his opinion of thn rumor which had Just com- lo circulate to the that nine of the Jurors were for acquit lai Knowing he would not bo given away us lie expressed n by those be was conversing bo fluid If I was a gambling on to 11 I'd them nine wus for a conviction You sold he wo have the moans of getting information sometimes about ibo Juries stand and I'm Hire mm no more than of them for an acquittal Inst when they eame in this morning OHO of said they stood the sume as Inst There won a he wavering but he did not go over Tlm wus that two of them said u listener and I think I could namo them too This the reporter thought would bo hut the man did not son to name tbo men Tho reporter next called upon Wm tlie Clerk ol tho court und found him Inclined to the that majority In favor of lion was large In tho of u brief sation a juror's numo was us one likely to he nn the side nf conviction so ll WUH deemed advisable to pall upon him lie did not happen to bo at bin nf however but a of hia who eaid if he on Jury trying Tweed iio could scarcely llove from the lips of that a nmn bad so much In llm inno tie had and with bin could have It otherwise than and that lie was tho iho reporter to see have boon accepted ou Mie ho was pretty nearly of same opinion reporter lo Juror's denon and found thai be retired to rest His lady of very trying in rouse him generally the Him Hint her hud ull ut not lo question linn In to Uow the fin wero pledged lo secrecy Ot my husband not a word Mio case from Ha inn fur myself I am miro lr nil Jurors felt as IIP dfd tho uf Mr Tweed would bn net Lied ns Mr Mr iold UPI ho was he retired but curtain would lie glim to Impart nny information lie could If 1110 r would in the noticed no was und IIP all to try und Him MP was right Hy iho In the nua found Ihu Juror it Ife be 10 Inform louders of Tin how tlie Jury lint all hud pledged 10 HUH act repot Unit the law illil not hold jurors to nny an In how on ilif of or We hail ho about Uio m order to cut ut -t satisfactory con ami nut nnd we were and o un end of il Just as Wu uero to il that wu should keeli the our division ml worn of Uol to how were no oath Kike 11 No Im suld only man his Tlie not
