London Dissenter (Newspaper) - April 15, 1812, London, Middlesex TIIE 123 England since by those measures which had brought distress on the rest of the HOUSE OF APRIL Sir MORDAUNT presented a Petition from the town of signed by upwards of against the renewal of the East India Companys General gave that as soon as all the Petitions on this should be he would move a series of Resolutions respecting the Trade to the liast ROBINSON that the Commissioners of the Ad having ordered Lord William Stuart to be tried by a Court for having run his ship on and his Lordship being a Member of that he deemed it respectful to the House to inform it of the circum CATHOLIC GRATTAN to state his intention of deferring the motion relative to the Irish until some day in the week after the PERCEVAL that it would be convenient to name the in order that the Call of the House might be distinctly fixed for the day previous to the GRATTAN then named Thursday WYNNE put off his motion respecting in consequence of the absence of an Mem who wished to take a part in the gave that he would tomorrow move for a Copy of the Letters by which an additional salary had been created in the lately held by Lord and at present by Lord The House then went into a Committee on the permit ting the Exportation of Spirits from POLE submitted a to the for the purpose of during a limited the Ex portation of Irish Afier a few words from and the Resolution was then put and In a Committee of Ways and POLE moved an additional duty of on spirits distilled from grain in Ire making the whole duty per which was agreed as well as several making the same duty chargeable upon spirits Some other of little and the House HOUSE OF APRIL IRISH On the Motion of the Earl of the Order for summoning their Lordships for in ion relative to his Roman Catholic was and renewed for the Earl presented a Petition from certain Mer chants and Manufacturers engaged in the Woollen Trade in the West Riding of against the Orders in Council which having at the his Lordship observed that the statement of so respectable a body of men was highly deserving of The he was signed by whose complaints of the grievances under which they in consequence of the operation of the Orders irr he should feel it his duty to call the attention of the House to on Tuesday the 28th for which day he moved that the Lords be Lord HOLLAND a Petition from the Mayor and Burgesses of for opening the East India which was ordered to lie on the His Lordship also stated that there was a Petition from the same place to the Executive the Orders in which he had had the honour of presenting this The Earl of WARWICK presented a Petition from the Ma of praying tor the opening of the East India which was His Lordship stated that it was signed by and moved that it do lie on the The Duke of NORFOLK that the Petition presented by the Noble Earl was not the result of auy communication with or other but was entirely the off spi ing of the feelings of the Manufacturers of Birmingham them He should have to present next week a similar peti tion from and he intended to take opportunity of Asking of Ministers what was the specific object of Govern ment with respect to the East India Trade HOUSK OF APRIL 9 Lord presented a Petition from the Mer of the town of against the renewal of the East India Companys Ordered to lie on the SEA WATER B MOOTIE presented a Petition from the Royal College of Physicians of London in favour of this Ordered to lie on the Petitions in favour of the same from the tants of and from the Inhabitants of which were also ordered to he on the On a Division the numbers the On the Motion of there was ordered to be laid before the an Account of the Permanent and War Taxes tor the year ending 5th of distinguishing each FULLER presented a petition from the innkeepers of the of complaining of the insufficiency of the al for the quartering of to lie on the postponed his motion on the 32dof George from the April to the 5th May Lord HAMILTON gave notice of a motion for to the effect of prohibiting the Bank of England from paying latter during the period ot the restriction from pay ment in than that which they now LYTTLETON not seeing the of the Board of Trade in his begged to ask of the Right Gen Perceval whether he was correct in certain in formation he had that there were at this moment ships in the having cargoes of rice on with li to proceed with the same to pons in France Some little debate took place on the but no question being before the the subject was dropped without any information being Sir Newport forward a motion respecting the Duties on Sugars imported inio Ireand from Martinique and Guadeloupe and moved certain Resolutions on the A division took place on the when the For the previous question For the motion 38 1 I Majority moved for copies of the under which Lord Melville and the Karl of were ap pointed to the office of 1resident of the Hoard of The CHANCELLOR of the thought the mo tion but if it were persisted in he should not re sist WHITBREAD wished to put a question of some ance to the Chancellor of the He wished to know whether the Pension of the President of the Board of Controul depended upon the continuance of the East India Companys Charter If considering also his former it appeared that the Earl of Buckinghamshire must have a direct and obvious interest in supporting the monopoly so grievously complained of by the The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought it extremely probable that the Grant depended upon the contingency of the renewal of the PERCEVAL said a few were not heard to which Whitbread that he was not surprised that the Right Gentleman had fixed upon an interested indi considering the great difficulty he had found in disco vering individuals who would consent to serve under hear from After some slight matter of course the House ad HOUSK OF APRIL After some routine the Order of the Day was for going into a Committee on the Reversion Earl as an that instead of the year to which the present the year 1840 should be The Earl of LAUDERDALE objected to the Earl GREY replied to the objections of Lord The Earl of LIVERPOOL had always been of that the question of Reversions was too trifling for serious con sideration in relation to and that they were only worth regard as they might be considered in their general on the broad ground of public The present kept the question open far deliberation the Noble Lords Amendment went to preclude all After a few words more from Lord and a brief recapitulation from Earl the Amendment of the Noble Lord was and the original went through the Their Lordships adjourned HOUSE OF APRIL PRICE OF CURWEN felt himself called by circumstances which had lately come to his to call the attention of the House and the Right Gentleman opposite the Chancellor of the to the present circumstances of the relative to the price of Last grain was imported into this country to the amount at least of The necessity of importation to so large an should have been a motive sufficient with the Government to give every possible encouragement to the agriculture of the The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would confess that the Gentleman was so kind as to intimate his sions upon this subject last nut withstand might have been the apprehension of the Gentle man last he the Chancellor of the was persuaded that there was not the least reason to apprehend a famine in the After a few words from he gave notice that he on move for an inquiry into the price of grain at Sir NEWPORT wished to know if any determination had been entered into by relative to freeing the Irish Militia Officers serving in this country from Property POLE said that their pay in be issued without any deduction of this GOLD COIN PARNELL wished that the further proceedings upon this should be postponed to this day that suf ficient time may be given for considering the state of tlie cur rency ut On the question being Mr that the question of was admitted on all hands which solves every had now solved that ques Lord and spoke on that but nothing new was in that allowing the gold bullion had decreased in the silver bullion now sur passed the price of six shillings per a circumstance un favourable to the system The House when there For going immediately into a Committee 8 1 In favour of the Amendment Majority The House adjourned at twelve HOUSE OF APRIL No business of interest in the Lords this HOUSE OF APRIL 13 CUF WEN withdrew his motion for an Inquiry into the present high price ot Different Bills were and some petitions pre in a Committee of moved that be for the Barrack Department for the year that no part of this sum could be said to be satisfactorily explained by the papers before the HUSKISSON objected to the estimates as being drawn up vv thout any view to economy in the public PAR thought the House ought to pause before ii came to a vote out of all proportion to the objects specified He wished to call their attention to one of paid to the Commissioners for auditing General ac during the five years that they have been employed upon If the public were to pay that for the de of official he thought it would be beuer to let then altogether JVi spoke to what he considered as the practice of separating the soldier from the citizen a which he should always consider as one wit kinder to the Does the Right Gentleman con whose rash and measures is now spreading over every pa t the i tru loom is and the cries nt ir sillied hy the point of the imagine hc can go on three years on his present system of ing and decreasing resources It is my that this disastrous period s not far unless a great and intire change be made in that On these I shall oppose the that he was surprised that the Gentleman should seem ignorant of those but he bound to believe this was the when he heard him pro claim to the that they were not to look at Buona parte as their and France as the cause of their cala mities and but to turn round to their own govern and there to discover the true source and of their wants and of their f If I were in any other place than tha I louse of I would ask the loudest and the warmest of all those who have cheered and supported the speech has been just whether it was not replete with the most gross misrepresentation The in which the Honourable Gentleman and his partizans seemed to was a triumph not over but over the Right Honourable Gentlemans Oh to be the House of Commons is a fine nothing but fair discus free debate and open doors and yet it that on this impartial stage a political by the aid of a cleverness in or dexterity in may arrive at that because nobody else will take from he shall dictate what he will to this and find even misrepresentations attended with applauding of rose to The Gentleman had just made one of the most outrageous personal attacks on his Right Friend which had ever been heard in that espect to the justice or propriety of the attack thus he Cries of rose to the disorder became and cries of chair chair resounded through the hlouse at length Ponsonby obtained a call he Right Honourable Gentleman himself to and on this that he having risen to call my Honourable Friend to did not confine himself to that but thought proper to advert to other thereby transgressing the regulations of the speak this Before high which will contradict me if I should be then declared his opinion o that Whitbread had been out of WHITBREAD then rose and confessed he had in some and at the had ex the limits of He that it he was described as having told the people that they were to regard the rather than as their it was a gross He did not confound the visitations of with the decrees of or the measures of the Right Honourable But he knew that thousands of manufacturers were now out of em and that tens of thousands were now working at reduced which scarcely sufficed to procure them sub It was his duty to ask the people to be misled no longer by the fatal policy of Ministers and he would ask the Right Gentleman himself not to become the victim of his own by bringing the country to the end of its Perceval and Whitbread mutually TON SON BY could not agree that his Friend in the observations he had deserved all the censure had been cast upc n He only asked of the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite put this question to his own he think it a wise or prudent thing that in the present state of the an expence as that now should be incurred for stables He waa convinced there was not a prudent man in the country who would answer this question in the affirmative under this he hoped the proposition would be ROSE that as the Orders in Council did not apply to the they could not have the smallest effect on the article of the Petitioners who had come to Go and also to complained that they were in a state of starvation arising from the want of in consequence of which they were without money to buy situation to which they were in consequence of the Orders in He had observed it that the Right Gentleman Rose had to some of those petitioners who waited upon him from compared France and England to two men up to their neck in who must try which of them could stand the longest without being He could not suppose that the Gentleman had so expressed He was the Right Gentleman could not have used such a meta as he the good ship of England to he so high above ROSE said he had been very hardly dealt with in the business alluded He confessed that some such comparison had fallen from denied that he had treat ed the distresses of the Birmingham Petitioners with anything like WHITBREAD did not suppose that Gen could have thought oi treating with levity persons in perilous a situation as he himself had FULLER would not consent to repeal the Orders in Coun though it were e en true that he could get nine shillings a pound for his sugars in If the two countries must be like two fellows each striving to save himself the longest above let it be so but Old England should never yield to HUSKISSON said he should that instead of the grant be reduced to PONSONBY said the question was not whether this sura should be voted at or not but whether or not time should be given to the Committee to understand what they were da All he should if it was true that France and England were now to be compared to two men up to the neck in and in such barracks for soldiers were to cost England it was not difficult to see of the two would be After a few words from the House when the numbers Against the Amendment 88 For it 40 Majority The other Orders of the Day were then and House
