Dublin Journal, December 16, 1802

Dublin Journal

December 16, 1802

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Dublin Journal (Newspaper) - December 16, 1802, Dublin, Dublin IMPSRUL HOUSE OF Continued from our laft glad that even by adopting rhe repelling all national irifuli and lioftile had evinced adoermination of f peaking wtttfgyeater authority to the Powers of j Europe He next notice oi the disadvantages impmed to Cinii tietal Alliances i but he considered the country in no while her ahd means were narrowed 10 defence of thBtfitifh In repjy he aliened that 99 out of 190 perfohs in this country d fired the return of Pitt to rower and if that event hould take it would be ft en that his Grenvilles friends were not fo detirous of ofpce as to oppdfe any embarraflT tnents to Lord HAWKESEURY tnumcations from the and theAddrefTes from the giver as full an explanation KF the relmivefitufttion o the cottntfy cvf iad een ufual and quoted the communications on former occiifions in He hat jthe iiterefts of the country did no allow it 10 infulate from the concerns of awd the only queftton how to make ContinentalaUrances of moil benefit JQ He denied that all the wats England had tieen engaged were by fuch alliance on the arofe thofe and in war the ttonin we Kadnot Anirericrtn war want deplored oy jhe In reply who fewned to think that ttothing prefcni redulfed extraordraary pre1 lie power that Bourbons were F0x fofmidable Government of France was much mow Sir HURI5ETT C ns acculed having futlictent information befitipft the Houfe de clared the pefmt coulrttry to be tlreadful fin 1 and mtfibUted that litu to the cnnducl bf that ibmeihingrnuft be done o regain ih of the by reforming fenfions and Mr in soqntfy the Baronet I for and happi tf not in Great JJritam Surety not in ot Switzerland it to what did England owe this rions preeminence but the talents and fagachy of the larfr urgfd orrhain the honour and independence of theErti at the bellfecunty for ihat and hap his that IJSRriaSce of Vnnnaeqt Ihould irail HWihoodof LA WRENCE thou if the ftna nees he cAtHirvwere fa flauufhirtgm they te els nbt of in1 Aity to jQtfnd wth He fpoke of the imbecility Minifters in tbejt negletfi the Houfe of in tiieir fuffeting the ar of and in directing a pro egatnft a Printer at the command of The jtJneTtj be a fyftematic Je the part to I fjmprels an that his Majeftys Miniflers fe compromifed tfte and tarnifhed the honour of the He deemed all Speech of the and learned the far greater part of whofe Speech teterred to topics which had manner of connec tion ijtijiics Ihould own pbfervations to three or fob r poijv s t learnedGcmieman Md in that by the Afficlii in the TfWiy of e5l Ing the Ihdfrrinificsttoh the Houfe of the Country had been committed that pledge fl U It was wellkno vn on this point he had himfeW fiir befog perfeiflly fatiifitd what had befn allot ted1 an to the of prangk tvjh rtfpedl to that be jlie R etc Is we under itoid the right he ihould have the honour of making ifWmmunication from His JMajfty WflpetfJihig of and feelings enterrained by llluflrjous nouTe and which on recirocal comniu iQa4e betweerr His JWinifters perfons In tht n a He cottW not he then be mow panic rf hen the day jjave was cernirn n Ciuntry to pidbliCBtinris 1 i he Government of On would nny that the French Government S to that m this the Governmetit of every other Country eji it equally eriritJeiJ ro the fafof af protedJIion and neither more nor not then ir the oi nment to produce thofe irnems give the mulideci ne Anfweri to fa thrown out out that of Ilicir purjUinjf c which the honor W their Sovereign changer if fycGoantry fll the fnfinnt it wns known to Hie his releafe and trVaf dernaad was immeliately complied ttow theaCfiuM nifters be changed with lofing fight of the honour of rhe Country only on that btit in let any Honourable hit fingef any comflance that has or any ut tered that could fuch an They had fpoken with regret of the power of but had fairly that Tuch a con fideration would not warrant hem in arfls of hof Gentlemen who difapproved of conducl of Mihtflers adopted a of proceeding on the prefent They in order re gularly to obtainthe information fo irregularly movei that progrefs ze reported or for an adjournment of the inorder to move an Addrcfs to His Majefty for the defired With refperft to their and fcope went to fltew the indifpenfible necelfity or rhe Vote before the and eflfehtially to indicate the condacl of Minjfters on the Mr FOX thought national honour the Only juft ground for Continental alliaBceSigave na real and that there was nohope of re medying the grievance ofthe enormoui WINDHAM fair lie had giveii up tionat honour and only fought for tional CASTLKRISAGH faid we could our the dlfpofitian of France and hould regulate our eflaWifhrnents ac We could not rety always which had beeri to prevent invasion of an4 therefore it oeceilkty keep a refpeilable military forces Refoiutions were agreed DECEMBER v a peiitionr from praying that to emer into recognizances to profecote returnof Harman for rhe he havingfer ibe time entering into the Thje nllawing tttrie cellor of the ivho thought thsf the ttdoner ought to have liberty to enter intorecog as it appeared no laches had incurred by Tierneyr Lord adduced fimilar inflances entered upon the the Journals of the which leave was and time enlarged for 21 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for the Houfe to refolve itfelf into a Committee of Ways and Means j and agreed He that the amount of the produce of the Permanent Taxes for the year ferred to the faid The Houfe having refblved itfelf inn a the Mu Alexander w the The CjaANCELLOR of the that before he entered on f he ftaterrJenV which had given life at ing before the the grounds on he prefumed to foHcit their to points of which we had jgiyej by rhe Order Bopk now wpofrthe Table lie had by that notice apprized theHowe of an irtteBlkyh to move in a Committee of Meanl for granting four thejrowing produce Confolidared It alfo that giverr notice of laying before the Houfe a ftajement of the financial Situation ofthis 0s as it could be ftated wuh accuracy at the p The consideration which him theMoufe to the fifft probability of our being ift a anhe fame an embarrafTed rhac in Confequence of the rapid ipcreafe yf our there might bp a larger in the iji chequer fronr the produce of thanthflffbr1 which cwdit had been taken by Government without rhe atnhoArity of Governmeiat would not w apply to public feryice of tW the m its ro the taken credit for as growing duce of the Confojjdatcd On the it had amounted to was to abftaintrom afldng the Houfe tp apply m if Parliament vere eoiifideMble fum would lie dead The reaion for the fccond part of his as the Houfe had juftifted in concluding would vote pi if s the that it the public fetisfatHory and It was on thofe grounds ceived higdnty to take the Chn on the Cofttbiidmtt to fay before it the the But before Jie adverted tp Means for producing he would ajk perm Hop of Gommirtee toadvert tottoih suwtnt It would be Geiitlcmen probably by nil lid VifM oc that in the courfe of the rangernents were made for providing foVa of of goriikU tuieJ the for which the IncomeTajt wtl i permanent provifion was made for the inteijcft if thai fum the amount of the to be added to and the Exchequer iBilfs funtTed at the commencement of the laf in all a capital fiovk of njnViy eycn millions for the inteieft was bur if was nor only admitted by but Mated as a probable that there would be a urn pro duced by the Taxes then laid exceeding the neroft of the Funded he he meant to refer to a charge nvide by an Honourable f his impfiug beyond roe immediate for which hey required j He did admit the and be ihen i i fiax thaw rea lized by the It that the produce of the foft year would not Qrojpf of had how that iheiftrft quarter they were Maty and M ALLi t rfki ti wasehtirled refult xvnaldbherefore for that Now it vbe rememberedjj thai onVfbrmer j riat onV eflefct of the Public Ser v icein the cnui the rtarkejtino lefsabfim than tjnfunded deemed of the current yeanHe fhould be aWef to ftat that the grants of the feft with the eitfejfnioo of the Arrny expiration would hft found fnmcient to provide for oM the of the buv he had ite Airttiyj were Gentlemen prefent who w the V that he had 4id not confider jjse tote for Indeed ii impofllbleto head of fervrce at tfiat tliecirctirn cif a very otir king The injiiit par he concerned to fiete would be fomethfng than One Bui hehad the fatjsfadton of fi t r T acting chat by chat amount of Aririv the riext are not likely VQ be half the with the was from Debt at the Seffion of to 4SOO vvliich he had already fed to be 6f the xfoey Dete K btu Me lijbt ableto fl ate this viifh the returns hawiig b8ejbi made up only to flared theprcfeable tfcewhole on tne returns which been Of thistlnfunded 1 confifted of Exchequer provided land and ahd on which no latereft is paid nur pay are they in the a payrhent made by rhe on account of the reactVal of its He thenoamfeto the ftatement of the Supply for the and the and Means for railing ii that men had ben voted for the fervice of theNnvyi Avhich the rateof per arobantedto oi Eamate flr buildjDg aijp untiog thenvjiole of the Supplies for tm4Meen a of my Tlie of the to haJ already al m to together the fum voted for For For Corn Servjcfij for England ami Ireland were efiimaieti at the Trim Permanent Grants af altogether fam be1 j inly contributed between England and tameto ftate the feparate by England They to pay Exchequer Bills iffued on the aids of To pay off Exchequer Bdis iffued on the of There wat to be made to the EattLtdia Company a repayment of 8Yfum ad and on there was an accqunr them and Governmentv arifing out of f dvapces made by the Company to carry on IWfiljtarjr efiortk in and on which iheCom yould have a fubftanrbl demand on Govern the itnount of one million The next was an article of Iriteteft on Exchequer rwhkh as To this was to be added ihe appropriated to the reduction of the of making charges to b defrayed1 by This Turn added to thai of ivhichhe had already flared rhe of jjbe joint contribution to bedefrayed by England and make thewholeamount to Fromthsfam was tobe deduced 31 of the fum of being the part ibuttfd by amouited tp and 2i7ths of the fum of U Lift aid other charges on the Conioli not relating to the Public to be id by amounting to 1 41 ttvo tufBMOgethcr1 would make Ydbepatd by wpuld leave the te Uulleitorbe for by Eng whole of theSuppHes would then Hand at rlptr Ordinary and including 3ur Ditto Irifh Ireland fordtting to lift PbWfe il had only tended a fennrnent which he had forrnetiy Waj fit the fctoufc fhehir tfelwi k j and be wade for 11 I fld bili ParliamentM neparar 4 not be for GftnVerjience and fjjiat operation proceeded to make produce of the laft thofeof ilTmtr by jvjikh the ihcreafe ojP of fudlBa the Igft Had oolytbegim of and that foitrce of Revenue Kad I operate on the Revenue diretfllji al iroiv that prolific fource of jvith great He then proceeded had already Raredl TThey rhe ag lefs than dobtb of tfiift j and Lottery making fum w hick obferve was gremerrHan the Supples Sji thar rhe Ways Means ftood as Land and Malt Surplus CpnipHdated Fund Exchequer pn Aids 1804 To tie contributed jointly between Enfland r 8RPARATE Tp paypff Bitkon 1801 oa Bank to He rften prooeeded ro flate the amount of the Imports and Exports of the current rhofcof former by which it thar Hry had greatly increafcd fincV thtf conblUfion of Much had betn faidon the fubjpet ofjhe ping of this and its decreafe fince the termination of the He on a former oc cafion it impofiible TO the from the different Ports but with rffped the Pure of he had been able to obtain f roro which it appeared that he number Ships that had cleared and entered1 in the year 1762 and the amount of riie Tonnage was in rhe number of was the amount of theTunage was num ber of Seameuiu was and in it w ihe number of Foreign Ships had decreafed proportion to the iticreafe of tnie from 3jSj to He tbtn pr ceeded nearly at u is impoffible for me to by any eommrnt at to the fatisfaclion which the Hotrfe derive from the which to has made irnprefllon which i will not attempt to becaufe I believe rhat would be very fince a ment of labels be liable and reafon ing may often be inceaclufiveht the of however ir may carry conviction I exprefs Come on look ing back to the period to which this ftatement ap of what I venturedtQ flats both in rhe laft and m the prefem year It expreflfcd that there would an immediate defi in theRevenue alier but now there is proof to and I iruft that every man who is capable of feeling a wilh for the welfare of hit will rejoice at this nor can there be in rtany parts of Eurbpe any fo ihort Aghted as not to fee that this flatementof the fituf aiion of Country is interefling to Let it not be luppofed that what we gain by M loft Korheis or that the pteeminenee of WeHed by and guided by wif dorn of has made irade aftonilhment of the has injured the fiateot others on the it hap made not only the Proteclrefs of the Civil but paradoxical as that may that very greamefs of ktng 4oip hai betn Oieaia Aft ;