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   Dublin Journal (Newspaper) - March 9, 1802, Dublin, Dublin                                HOUSE OF MARCH 4 The Order of the Day having becu rtad fur going into a Cmufltee of Tht at WAK That the whifli tftimntcs rcfpcciing the bren reicrrcd toilic fid the llaufc ihen refolvcd itfelf into a Committee of at that the eawnates r trbicn bad Wn refused to the and upon whicMtt meant certain for related te moft tfot WwtotHe whole of tbe I y were thej efti and Barrack fer Tortign hey were emulated oo fAWhralc thofe prcfcnted bfl and the hull rfeftW wby it liad been lound watbctau had taken place in tbe fnuation of forue of He theii pocetdcd to Utc the number of Aerieiiiployed iuifvc the total nuhibcr andVthc expcncc lor two monthi would be It did not appear to him that he iltould at prcfcnt occupy time of the Genflcnau for aiij ex on auy particular was At prefcnt he flinutd content hinvelfVtfh which a nuihbcr i Urtiat explanation wat not Tlut e bent fail for It might perhaps be but Iet4h e vrat in the hbit of tfanfporfing her troopt I it muft M Spain and Hollwtd alfo at a loft tied purpo eipUnation fliould have that Prance in men of Spain and Holland alfo at a loft for tranfports f But if it watntcefiary that the fuch as it fhould fail he would whether it would not hXvcJictH bvtMr policy in to Ijvc your fltct goer we will fciid a fleet 4fo and nhethep hit Miaiftert would nuttinvc demc mure for the of the public pfjnjaii iy ing bV Delicacy confidence Co fomiiplaced The though podthly givfug nn very great atJdifionaKaufe to be iatialicd with IK were yet rtra OMLtofficieotly TUere might be aflbrancet of friendfWp and e conduct of our Advcrfary be and too evident to he that it was the of France to fubvtrt When a Preliminary had the that would ceatt that boili pertfet hould ftand and neithcrlhoBld do anythiMto the injury of the la the cafe a Truce relative to Befieged a was put to the effuiion of hjunan And the operatiwnt on rtfh fide were thejBefivegart were not allowed to make to repair the old The talewas fiimlar with to a Treaty betwccaj It that which affected jeftyt Miwftfcri hai Weti tti cofawwir U I found fog thought thai the public ooght at from too eonfldbm and deftkkndencr oq the other made of the he tathtt that Miiiiftert had oot France but W ftrong for moving for a large France has 1 there r great A additional Troatiet erentt which happened fubfe She had left us the burtbcjis of war without the benefits qttent tprtue cpncfuTfOQ the thbfe to that but were t of land jocludtig 7115 not employed in fcrrai from the 45th March to tbe 1 firfl LIUTdH not the ghr aperiod iiko fuifcr ifelf to to eoriOirtced riectflity ofexpencei of wad bten the wife policy country to to contincflWl airtaiw aad to regnlnte the lyftem of itt own by the late of Tjiesinpre loofeed at tJiie fuccpflion of defenfive meafttret finee the communication of the s fie wat convinced that the preTcnt of the menacing to our rigktt and B frre he catered fan her into this he wirticd to L MB ffft A It of while our trade xvas in mejfure fufpend fd from Uncertainty to tbe iffue of the He with voting for the that the Hcufe onthis ntantfeft its uftial generous arid fpiritcxl Lord that forajtmeafutct which Minifters had fiucc Use of the prclirujna rtfpofiblr to tothtCfHintry anil e hoped the would dotlum tlic Jufliceto when thr proper occafioajhtauld the would not jjite any ceffary information every jyri ojf t1 iffcring from of the in thj meafuret whiter He had the misfortune to differ from tfrtm iilio with reipedl w live prcAminariet of peace and though vra thtft us now not fo to duty at not to bow ui what had obtained the concurrence of the yet nee A A not change tbe determination of bis He wat ftillojf the fame and he that every days experience did not coavince him of flic t nth of what he had then that when the Nobc had figned the he had pot hit ture to a national Having been once the preliminaries fliould be that i he faith of the country would violated if they were while the circumftancet under which they were HUIIUM ronxaia tbe fonier but we were mt bound to oblcrvc if tho circuiwftancet undtr which we contraiflcd otally We had by difarm oiirftlvct0f the right of adverting to things not only with the but calculated to change whole nature of the We had not deprived outfelvet of the right of attending to what had taken place in He would do Miniftcrs the juflice to fup fjofe when they figned tKe they thought they a fpirit of moderation in the Govern ment of and there might have been reafnn to think fbthcrrs It might havebeen hoped chat the Ciitil Republic may at one time become aud t a cutck on the ambition of Frantic and Isarricr power and thje other parts of WuVwhat the event The Ffertch Government hacl uot even Hopped to draw Pending the t for Definitive witnStttJtuy commutiicatiow if hisddign to thii or any other Firfl Conful had to where the Cilalpiuc were allcmblcd fo meet him having found in the popu Uion of aad thickly inhabited no pcrfowtt fit govern he had kindly taken upon him ielf that charge He confefled he wan alarmed wheu he iiw 110 notice taken ot fuch conduit on our He thatff vn pcrfcvcrcd in fubmiflion to fuch encroach France may conceive that our fpirit wat extin and may gradually eftablilh a fyttcm of disregard tor the opinions gf other which may be in tjme applied to Britain The Firft Couful had returned to Iaris widi the nickname of PreCdeut of the Italian Republic but in having attached to and having extended thcuncontroulcd dumi of that country over this large and populous tract Vet hit acquisitions were not copnned to that by a mod ilcitrous diplomatic manoeuvre he1 bad got poflVfCtm of the whole of the liUnd of By treaty figued in the month he had ctprefsly Vliat part yf which belonged to Tulcany liould leimio to it but by Concluded With Spain ill the xffuccccding month of he had obtain td pofltfliou of Porto Ferrajo By the fame tieaty he bad acquired the river which was the only frontier of the wcftcrn dates of America a river which rnijht lur nilh the of of our and of coufolidating in a power per tn every He did not iman to a lie the Nobli Lord io ivbat late we fluod with Io but be rcflccled on the ambition aud infolencc tlifplay by that ke thought Mmfclt srppeal iiU to tbe Noble would lo hlm1ut tu the when ht igncd the prelimina he that he was the Duchy of Tufcouy whetbcrlxc wai aware tlut he Was giving au in America which tvouUinfurv a in quarter He did believe that were ij narant of thtfe iiifitad of treating whh France for her they bad treated with ihe they would not have been Jiut there iwut fubjcct tl leafl which Ut thuught it impolitic not to France foine If no anfwer was giten there fhtwld have an end of all treaty if tin anlwer wat and that Muftrcr wat nut adhewd however it mav otllnd he 4Spd fty there had bttn grols and palpable tallehood ou 4ht part of It was that a larjje ptirtMin of the vitb ftrong quadrant uf the trtijcb nittt bad MinilUrb aumitted the but exprctVed of the policy of nuking uiy or betraying any fulpicion npoa He ndiild ao as he that Minifkrs voiildexpiitinthc matter to tbe the Hniilej im i hey did explain alluwiiig the Und to be Dicccltary uot cvufc to France hove to contend with lurh a but ouf He adrajtud France a right to make fuch a distribution of her forces tbould think proper but he ndericd right ot England to inquire iuio that dii and rcSlt it if it appeared In the cir when the Ruilians had gained tome advantage overlhe France Iwgiin to vfUtu it what wks the it aiifwered that it was intended and what Wat the language upon be vrordr were her to or he wouW bcitd tor fail tia tUit if Majeltyt thought it poflfiilyUe uecctTary fuch a force fliouid the lUcy at Uail have dctaaudcdl would they fltrink Irotn tbt ottliejr but would be found willing to givfc the fujleft of the wnolc of their from the ginning to the moment of the aid thus fie convinced that the Committee would concur with him in thinking that the prdent wat not the proper lUumcut him to enter into upon ttie alluded tu by the important tluy might or have on the uiindti of thofe who the willing to admit fhatiif the NwW tfatffiti forii ptfinitivc Treaty wit proerajftexl for an ei of attended wrlhral Tfriiiiniccs which nuift litccflarily intend aprotratftediw Parliament had undoubted iright io requite and expect fomc He rpady loudmit the inconveniences that protracted riego tiatiuu were very even it it were not protracted to a greater length tljan the prcleut t Jlut if any Ocn tlemaii would coniidcr the 51 cat ol imercfls that were to be difculTed in the prtJcnt and the great number of that muft nJfccttVarity uiwitr he xvoutd not thttit thjt negotiation had continued to an cxtraoidinary CORNWALLIS that the Gentleman who had fiiokcn firA in thin enlarged derably npin the fituation both of Country and of but more that expedition which hiid failed from the parrt of With regard to that there realbnii be fore the to inuucc them to iuppofe tliat it not a fair though perhaps ifmight not be proper for Maj Itys Mintftcrs to uate every thing within tlidr knowledge upon lle Aihje5l but even fuppqiyg tinthe expedition hjid failed with a hcftilc which he really did not Kit there m t the lead ground fur bccaufe we had a forr moie than to re lift attack vhuh they might be iuclioedU and our in caiebe enabledto meet them in the open being employed for merely counting fleet in harbour of he friend to the continuance of the Waif which he realty was of that fleet would be to im a mat ter rather of regret there was to that had not an re i r now adopting every of precaution wliich deace aiid fituation pf ajfitirs could an for be taw no ground fur that which the Gentleman had It did not apfnr that any thing had occurred fince the fignrng of tic Prclimiuitry Articles that could juftify lAiniiig thefe fufpicinns of good faith of the of Jrante which the Getttlcttwnleenied we fliould fail id Onr endea vourt to obtain be hoped thcte werehHK little grounds of apprehentioo our fucccft in the renewal of the conttft Nobody could look at the character ot cht Noble liarl whopiciiilid at the Board of Admiralty with feeling the fame that bis judgment in di naval force of the country would lie con as liis tkill and courage had been when actively It had been that the prtlcnt negotiation had been protrtcled to fuch a as to aiTurd for tbe mod alarm but he begged to tliat it was now but A few months the Ple nipotentiaries had met to fettle the of the Defini tive In the Treaty of rhctime employed in Ntcocition wat coolidcraWy IN had bren liixt tbe Mercantile iuttreft of this country were extremely anxious that thf Drtnitivc Treaty fliouW be fettled but it would not be denied that the Merdiafet of Ore at Britain wcrq fiilly at the time of tilr Treaty of The fame obrervafiotif applied with equal force to the Treaty of Ail la Chapellf he could nut lit down without again expreiting hit de cided that titrre was no ground for the alarm which had been becaule we prdper either to give cffciSk to the if it fhouTd unfortunately be to curry on the coatetl with WiNDHAM he highly applauded the con dud of hiit rrieniU in the attention of the Huuie to thii important Vic had weighed it much in hit where ionic had taken plate bctwceo thcduy which he he owed to tbe his witli lie iuftramchtal in difclofiDgthit which it might be thought ncCvliiiry to if thfs fubjeot wa niudc the ohje5t uf without fpecitic relatife hiiMajcftya might take what part in it they hut if a motion h been brought lorward ciprelriy relating to they Ottght lctn induced to declare and fomcthing might kave Uifciolcd its getting Qiight lugliljiirjura cUc at irtatcriaHy impede its I hele rtitraincd him and his hut tto man could at the fuU jcA without fttliag it to be au unpoctaat duty attentum of the Houlc to If the Prclimiimry a wai rated at the time ot its being embraced every ftipulation the then the time em ployed lince that period rnMit be time loft but the caufct the dtlay were not j it might be The had that thing had happened lincc the Preliminary Treaty to the Itate Of ill which he fo ub at fcarcejy to What nothing vheu lo much luU to fit the PrJiuVuiary IVcaty eutircly it either party chofe to take udviioujc when gicat aud important changes ad taken to which the Preliminary Treaty did nut other events had calcu lated oducc jffbiehmuft determine tbe nature aim clUxt of Preliwinary He wifliej now to call the atuutiun of tUe Houie to the expoutioq of the Noble of the three things ucccfUiry to the forma lion of a the the And the tune to the it WAS uof fit the for the greater part fit io thefe par ticularg we were nauchon the vroort He luppofcd be mult look fuftfte tone in tbe fpiril o the Oovernnieut we treated witArand he agreed with hit that the fpirit was far fupcrior to the But more we relied upon ru of the we trtated the more diptorablc muft be our if the that tKere a fpirit ot aud that tbe continued purpoie aud of that Ooneomttai todcftroy the grcaUuft aud pcafperity of tbtf A much ufctter from thcirpottt France tilt might not ke known fo either party i but if naoaf cilculated to a Ted tile articles of Wat known to oae and atthctimc of the Treaty ffonx the was oudowbteJlly a and mwft that The nilgbr be a tecled intit is way from the nature of the Articles t IiefM ffTtny particular Ifland Of Country tie Article corrtaltttng that was dcfiaitc and cer Witlffwyere dthtr Article of more indefinite for the guaranteed arid pomftiions Which conAituted the intcgriry it wTit fotiod that at the ocriod of nvikiryg the Preliihiaary aubiher Treaty had been ddWcd wKich altered the integrity of meantttbe anil which Treaty was not nmaicated Country the time qf concluding thea the Houfc muft Treaty thus concluded afied upon without His HonI Friend dpuc u6 than in calling attention of Tituatiori of tht Cottlitry Vliat bad heen tube fo be thcr queftion and whether1 it not to any nxafurt upn this He wKvtioi but the Hiiufc otiglit t have the whole fituation of the country before Whether any tobc taken could not now be confidemT but it tliv tloule would not confidcr the they Would not decide upon thpie fleps which to be they wou4 view lubjetdt with an aparhy which fetmed to him faully to they wouldcooperate and mearuiret without a rcquifite they would go on with a ktnd of blind whteji he could otily compare the judicial blirxkicft mentiwQcd in Holy then the of the country could only be eftimated by Let them look Ihte of two Aulriaand Ruilia all the reft were fuailowcd by the power of and clearly faw that this country would only be Ictt to be the Uft It was evidently the purpolc of France to aicn At uuivcrfal wai cVidctttly thririnten dcfrroy the commerce of this He would not take up the limcof the Committee further upon tbe fubjecl wire ariJing out of to give creation to new he thought his Friend had very fairly brought the fubjedl ocforc the BAKER it was difficult to decide whether This country was at preleiit in it fhite of Perec or TKeNoble had ohlcrvcd upon the greater delay which iu conrludiug other but thin cafe mud according to its own At the Prcliniinary Treaty wat cmimunicxtcd to the he was perfectly Aliened with the yet hr that thrkcoiijitry to be taken in confctjucnce of the conduct evinced on the other but he that if this country was called upon to adhere to the tbe obligation was equally binding upon He did no call upon Hit Majdty for any tiic rcipoiifibility refled with atid tiny nuift jthiir whtn the period arrived at which they called upon tor that he theibght it of iropori t uncc that uo imputation of btarrc fliuuid goabroad agaiitl is Majcitys as arming oftt of the prcfent uif He tlat too fangtiine a ouglU nut to be foflntduT encouraged of the fuccefsiul termiMtion of the nejnciftrton the public ought to be pre pared in a manly He was ot with to had been urged relative to tinWeft that the conduct of this country bad been upon the rules tf found It had been imagined Uiat events would take in conrequence of the failing thither of tbe French highly injurious to the interefbi ot this It was impoiublt to fay that fuch events might not but if another view taken of the there would appear no ground whatever for one knew that it wat the policy of Prince to derive all the advantage fbe could from her Her two great Colonies were Do mtrfgo and the former contained a popula tion of and the latter of with a iuull prnportien of it was wcllktiown under the Government of the It had been that a large force had been fent out by but could the forct teat out be deemed when it was con fideted that was in a hoftile and that it wat ntccilary the object of France to rcflorcUto the Government of the Mother Country f We well acquainted with the operation of an force in and niuft be aware that which wax the extent of the force fait out by not difproporritiuate to the objcA that wai to be if that force was to met by an hodlle oppoiition and wren if it was when the extent of SitDumingo wat and the number of garrifons whtch would be the force which wat fent out was not dif proportionate It appeared to thut it could not have heeri the policy of this country toliave ob jected to the failing of the Expedition from This be if we looked to the ftaU of the French at it muft be equally the polrey of thia country as of that thofe Colonies fliotitd befub JeAcd to tbdr former But it had been why fuffitr fo njany of Line to go out if were thefe were not any dia take as had been predicted by Geo would be uodoubttdly for tbe thft as it would be thcneaulf found adiftance from f U He did not fee that oecaAoocaUed ipf tills aad 3W hit Msw whhrcfoecito upon tl wihgt felvct to wtsthe fttcccfti ought hoptt hope pared thatdi adoL Co lloufe He alfo thought obCerved in commenting upon Itwataot uwuld go abroad upon fuch of Jtmie Statct wat it their own fccurity and iafety 4 fix they copfidered thcm bir thofe He thought it of the noufe to forulcatc to the ht not to form too aaguioe etpeclatioiit oi iauont but on the other iqto and give all calu and rational aTthe fame time be pre t Ut them be prepared to men ill a firm and maoly and to which the urgency of aJUrs might oc prepared tor either aJtcrna There was no reafon the awftil otic their foi dtd The ATI ORBYG flf irinklng pbrervktjpns I r iwritlctVtmiTf the MaicJljt Mioidert would wantonly re olft the other there was no reafon c thty fatrifice the Honour of the atcrelyto He conudcred it nc ttflary ht thought h to For laud i ior tsfics including For four troopsof and ip recruiting for Baftti For rack Uepartineiit iu Urcat Foi eign ft Report to he received LI The W tKe In the present fituation tiie he would be univcrfally it wat adyircablc to therefore bought ilia ncfl w rqf granted ta He then 44 That towardiraJfinjj thr Suppl a Aim ilot exceeding Otic Mil Lotion Agreed and reportordered to be retired MARCH Higgins and Drtflings Utkd lad i with dilpatches of importance for 1he veflel whichbrought Ii4flltv the 1 m brought alfo Livutenant Colonel Major and Captain tht from whichthtt Iclt the latter end ot Tbe battalion it till it but the flauk are at laft fix iail of the line failed on a AddR frmn Tori My upon afecret aad Ordtt received at Fortmouth to get ready for fc ail polIiMe expedition all the men of war fitforTerete at that The activity of courfe to i the rent ofiicca at to and equip i the Oi the Aivtivet for this Of the dcQinaiicn of the we are totally igndranfc Tbeprder has excittd a degree and given variety of AU the fliip fiffor fea at tic arc Ordered to comptete their provifipog and ior aad for received byctprcjv Paftt of the i6th and tom morning thofe of the came to band Tire latter contain ai fiora dated the there iateltigrBtiiftwlpt the bctjfy iettltd to the Cape ot Oood Mid that t queflion which remained for acijuftnent the claim indenioity on the part ot thff tor fhejr detained in Bntiili i i here U art Addrvfs in the French papers fCom tbe Colonial Alfcmbly the Ifle France to etur w HS it has btcti inferted in the Official fume It neccffity otthe French Govtrnmcnt giving immediate fiipport and protection jttk iu Colo in Ve required to dilpute die the and to fecuie to other liberty ot the I hr obvious meaning of this ad that the Colouy ftiadj in great need the aiDftaoce of the mother The Princo fon of the rived at Paris on the ajtb pre ienteu to tbe FirU Coatul by tbe Muuller for Foreign An order has arrived at Florence from to celerate the ccllion of the Ifland of Tbrre is to re main in the after the of 5 M to be ly the King ol a private Better from Nothing it now more the Bode at than tot Orange iit conftquencr of the cxpciffcd vifit of tbe Hereditary Princeof Orange in that I here it t Uroug hope the French Government mtke foau arrangement his hope firooxly by all the Partizaus uf the Houfc uf Orange in Holland they all flmjer thcnjfclves with the ol tlieir in wculd futTcr no it France were to fuffer It is not wiihuiit jcaloufy and and per haps not without apprchenltoot for the that the Courts of Vicuna and Berlin nave learut IWnapariei Ac ceptance of thePiefideucf xf the Italiaii There is already a current report upon the thit Republic will iticlf with the wlulc of the Pon tifical and that a French Corps is at the prefent moment marching to which they wifh to it it for thepurpofc of making their Extract 4f a Letter from a Account from Rtbelf Bel arc in a ftate of the utmoft The Oar h t men is fpljt into a nunv Tfce Ciueit daily quarrel awgng them I daijiy Cray between their Ivllow Jffaid to open their A fwct of iwtt1 more than might hf twitiinjojie factiqit againft tbe entirely reduce the Bmapirte having taken on him fiblf tbe fuprctuc authority ot the Julian hat excited a great fcoiatiou JUtract of a Better from March jprdtrt are rjforivcd here to prepare ftreral of the for at I of receiving railed in Si to take them to and other piiritt iuthe thar they may be dif ctnbjodicd with at muth convenience to tlitnrletvcs pof borne of theft fhipt embark fenciWes at this ank are going to JcrJcy and Querntey for the like thofe iflauiit being garrifontd entirely by fenci fxcepting haViugfwur conipanics of regulats in Tpc humanity and confederation of this measure are very and die gunhoau are prcpaiing to re Cur number cf ireuch reducing a general muftci and a iupply of old returned bedding directed to be la their tl eir fljort All thclc et occurring at the fame reafon here to iuppofc the Treaty cannot be A VerviJarte reduflios trf the artificers iq tl is lUortly to uke   

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