Eldora Herald (Newspaper) - July 21, 1875, Eldora, Iowa ISAAC 1 i nil ii In you tho books whiel wore deposited funds 1 recollection now o public tho same time of a private I other do or check the db piait since yin boon superintendent of the School aside from tho referred if so will you produce il or them examination was locator in Loo 1 did business in hanks nt Pleasant and had they are down at tho school and I will pro them if 1 can liml How do you the pub lic money in the banks in what In tho name of Q In whose name you usual Jv draw it by check Usually in the name of Mc How much did have oil hand on the 1st of 75 for he month of Canyon anything to the amount the State was to mo nt that yHi explain how the State can be indebted to you from your salary for your services if you did not have your individual and public funds mixed to gether in tho same account Part of the timo ac counts have boon that is my private funds and the When were they and were they mixed during the years and iip to 1st ol whore did you keep vour private book account in which the public funds and private funds were mixed 1 think they have been mixed most of the and 1 have kept the funds in the County do you keep tlie pub lic fluids mixed together with your private funds if you have not during the years and 75 kept so mixed in the Hardin County Hank on deposit 1 kept them mixed in my pocket as well as in Have you kept a private bank ing account during tho years 74 and 75 1 have not kept a separate hanking account of my private funds that I wished to deposit in Jl 1ms usually been in small amounts mid when deposited simply hn duplicate memorandum iy the bank and out the money as L need on separate by the bank differing some what from Those transactions have nol been of magnitude to demand a separate bank amount of private funds have you had deposited in the bank at any one time dining fie 74 and 75 1 do not remember Can you some thing near the amount 1 do not remember now wheth er or not 1 have had over at one If as you now the public funds and your private funds weie not deposited in the bank Hume account how could the State be owing you on account on the 1st oi 75 A It occurs in this way when 1 held whether it belonged to the State or myself and demands were made upon accounts incurred for the school 1 have paid those How much money of your own private funds had you paid on ac count of the school up to tho ot 75 1 can not How you know tho State owed you anything if you do not know how much you paid 1 have not said how much it my impression is the State owes me a small nf your own funds on account of the school if my books show an over and above receipts the surplus above receipts has been paid out of my private How could that be if you don t keep your funds mixed with the pub lic funds i i I stated before that 1 think the funds had been mixed together in bank as well in my pocket and almost all the private 1 have bandied here in this town have been invested in account the gone to pay accounts for the During tho greater part of tho time since the 1st of No to the 1st the expenditures have overrun f Thou vou think Juno the State was owing you a bal rii is mv I don t My definitely as i have not up for that Dont you know that on tho of you had a balance to vour credit nt 214 NUMBER making in bank tho sum of which you HI nut Oil tho that I h In my hand t hut it not thin I Jim in wn book shows on the 5th hist there was a balance of amount hy and that balanced the shows that oii 15th of that on the 26thof I drew out and it docs Hot show was thoro one which you on tho loth of and did it it was received and paid out as private you conic to deposit t in the bank in account kept of the funds in this It a from my I had simply re a chock for and wished it to remain in bank a few days hatl might convert it to my use and handed it to the of ho perhaps did not state to him distinctly and when ho to look and render n balance it appears hai this account was put on the Was this the only de you made in the Coun y Bank of your private funds of the account is kept in this book vith the My on point i not tiling you may have nadi sundry deposits ol your private with the funds during lie and 75 of which he account is kept in this Jly recollection is that 1 have iot done so to considerable ox you made any deposit i the Hardin either or public funds between May 7o and June that are ot recorded in this bank book which on have produced here My recollection js that I have some private funds that are ot recorded iil this How Hindi funds have on deposited in the bank during 1 cant I do not Can you approximate some lin near the amount 1 think 1 can Would you say it was as much 1 dont think it was as much s the one fourth of amount of private funds avc you boon in habit of keep ng on hand during the years nd 75 That is a question I cannot with any degree Cant you approximate some near the amount L might that here was an average of at from in tlie winter and 71 to about the commence ment ol the winter of 75 of private funds that 1 on band was separate from State funds but was used to pay the claims the For the bal ances due mo from time to would refer to tbo books of thein In what way did you mix the private funds you had on hand during limo with public funds so that they were used for public purposes Whatever balances are shown upon tho books due me at the end if any month I us private been paid out to moot expenses of the institution in some eases whore 1 have given duo accommodate creditors and to bills I deemed of im portance for u settlement with tho You must have deposit ed your private funds in the samo account with the public funds in the making the same account with and drawing upon them as one fund to pay fur public Noli necessarily How then did you your account of private funds with public funds so that at the end of each could toll there was a balance diin you on account of the use of vour private funds 1 could tell that a balance was due mo at end of from the books of How did you feep your ac count of private funds so that you upon thorn jointly for public use A was no separate account kept where the private money was tp be used in payment ol the debts of the Where do you keep your join then of public funds and private funds from which you draw for public use A In the Hardin County and kept all the accounts to tho funds used for tho q the Have von deposited tho pub lie fund private to gethor jointly in the Bank upon which fund drew fo public support indiscriminately V 1 think 1 may have done so n most instances but can not now when or How much of your privat funds havo you deposited with the public fund at any ouo time fron winch you so drawn for I no recollection at thi timu of any v Q as stated you un a in winch yoi kept an account of th bank cant you refer to Unit mid de think 1 could distinguish in all cases pn funds from public you loll the public funds on and how much o My private funds have used for tho benefit of not have the funds used for tho deposited n To suppose I receive Ira tho re is an immediate usq for i part or all of that money at this I the draft to the bank ind Zinay pri funds and use it in the payment f the debts of tho I may take or part of such baft in cash and leave the deposit and when chat for the use of the school t would stand on bank be the Have you a book in which you ave kept an account of the private which you have used for pub ic use as to able to of the amount you have jeer so using from if so vill you produce that book for in showing that account i I no than ho that was brought in and the journal and ledger f the institution j to show the state f financial account in my ion with tho iDo those books show your rivate account with the state where n you liave an account of your funds used for public if 0 will you turn to the book and and show your account The ledger of the institution hows tho receipts of the or each month in regular also the expenditures for each in regular order it further hows the balance of account at the nd of each and where is in my favor that private rif book hows in any one month that I have and paid out lie balance would show that the State owed rue and it is a latter of no importance in this iu as to where that aine Where does that book show you ever put in a dollar of your rivate funds for public use t ut the account showing anything of lie kind It shows it only by the bal found on tho Does not the show the of the public funds and IK disbursements thereof without bowing anything in our private would a of indebtedness against the State after the public und be a debt State in favor The book shows first tho of money for each month and 10 money appearing on hat private be book also shows the expenditures or each and balances for lach month the book shows in that laso that the expenditures have ex the receipts the of ex over receipts shows that oilier means have boon used in the of the debts of the have boon isod to pay balance after ex the public 1 have used my own private in some in a ew instances I have given an indii vidual Where do your books show that fact point it show the ac of such The books show no such tians other than by the balances shown on the Balances of what do you ami the excess of disbursements receipts of the public funds 1 You have said that where there was excess of disbursements receipts for you liave paid out your given obliga tions to cover ibr how you paid for one month I give the exact for any one At one during tho latter part of I col a note to the amount of brought it to aid in tho payment debts of and did not have the State to replace it till sometime in November mean by lifting a whose it It was a by of to ine draw ing me 10 per cent payable on Erbiu No vember to April 2nd7 the re fell of the tures and T could not moot the obli gallons of tho institution without oi my I thought it better money I hid authority to borrow money I in 1 collected a note instead of lifting Now when did jou u c tint And for Between November 1st 73 and from that 011 it used u the school and school and from that time on the receipts been less than tho 5 What oi did you pay with it Point out on tho show whit 9i ed of yom funds for public Tho public funds and tlm amount of private funds weio during that time and tht 6f the wore paid when demands wore so far to do Give us tho items of your Hindi fpr they ard on page of the journal and leder the journal and ledger the public cant on to whom you and of men of your private paid during that I cant point out the I suppose the question contemplated specific payments out tho of private I have before stated that public funds and my own private of were intermingled and debts of the institution were funds car ying the account or indebtedness of to of that combined If and wore mixed er yon must have had some lic on hand at tjio time the of of public funds have at that time I had jany on hand at that not had the amount was for I not draw the money on that until there seemed to be an necessity for the of the your books show the amount of funds you hid on at that dont The books show that between the 5th of of had received from the State at dif ferent times moneys in small sums to the amount of about Do your booKs show at what time you the on the note and when you mixed it with public funds if eant you tell by the aggregate amount of funds on hand nt that time have repeatedly stated that those books contain no receipts of loney except of belonging p the There areno in on this book of private funds eing recorded To did you give your individual obligations on account he public and when During the building season 874 I gave due bills to corporations nd other not money enough to iay thoir cant jer the names of all those mechanics or the exact I have uch to awyer and perhaps to all ers and perhaps to Did you not at the time have n Irom the State suf fo coyer those expenditures We Thou what was the necessity if your giving your individual oblii employes and did they interest and if so interest Tho law milking the bations for buildings the at the end of each month to nake an estimate of expenditures for building purposes during he month and transmit esumate of who upon issued a for said aid to the treasurer of lie and the of the transmitted me had been i Sometimes there was delay ho funds required a lue adopted tho of giving due bills that the ex act of duos on arid the due rills not draw The de ay in receipt of money was sioned by the time it necessarily took trustees to up to their statement to he from the Auditor to the Tcu surer of tlie for the of the school to make col same to thoir the by your giving or for that claim to him that the State owed you for the several the suins such a l i S Did not make a statement figures and month above in your own Felt when he was on the stand and claimed thit a balance for in on t as you stated him was not that introduced as evidence in connection with his testimony AV during some last winter I made a memorandum of stand books thc time and haa me at the Jlr Felt in and referred to Hiit the Felt was testifying on the stand a FeU Have you no qan Some of thorn Did you claim that the State owed you and was indebted to you reason of you giving these clue to hands 1 did net claim that it was di With what they paid woro of the several building now state for what year and months those due bills wore They were given principally in the from tlie month of May to Did you state to Folt at that the State owed you a total on account in the year for the following months as follows 47 Febi July 2s Making irt aggregate o 11 K win did the bwe you a balance on account on of those stated A In talking with Mr Pelt about tne rank of the and the shaights to which I hid put to meet I that fhe books of the institution Allowed these serial m my with the exception of the of I think the statement 353 oo of id tho I af tp wt cl the full determine the think I or expended it a made nd enj Q the inter of iii other words gave to it he State from the Bank for the benefit ef the State woulds it a that The figures were pencil by my own hand and the laid suppose it was introduced iis evidence In con with Felts I claimed that those bal ances due me as shown by tho but I also both at and ho was on tho at that those higher balances were not all duo to medi Did you not claim at that time that that statement contained exact duo you from the State for each month A not make any such claim told him specifically that I made no told him that those were the balances books If those wore the balances on pre that you your State corresponding with those balances I do not pretend to any such statement and or A v Iti my Felt I I a 1 against the school and in favor myself to the amount of to I did not claim in that conversation that the State actu ally owed me for an amount much Did you not to tho trus iees for March 74 abalance due you of M the JV that was due as having boon put of funds I exhibit vouchers properly re of To I wish to on that The lodger of the institution shows that at the March there was me that during month of had paid out and exhibited vouchers a balance at the close of that month amounting to and was to at that time and that amount includes the former If settlement during the month of did you to board of trustees at the the month of that the you a bal ince at the end of of what claim further than is shown by the books I dont remember any that was had with the in reference to that You sav in tho April settle ment you vouchers ng the of with was paid I dp not uow recollect dis funds with which it part was paid with the unds the State and a part paid rom my own and I bink it is possible there is some bor rowed means Q How much did pay of your private of pub ic and how much of borrowed v I have no distinct recollection different Cant you 1 From did borrow funds which were used in paying the balance of did you I do not remember at that time I borrowed money of the Bank think possibly did but I do riot ro I bor money anil I did time of On what securities did you borrow from the Hardin County Bank and on whose authority dit you make the loati I do not remember what so I gave and I borrowed it oi my own individual tlie trustees authorise you to make such loan think they interest on so hew much I paid interest ou mjr money I may have the Bank or qu time lit th rate of ppr llas the to pa that interest or did you of your own pocket It was lost but of hiy owi How much interest did yoi pay the bank oi account of loan made for public uso I think it was as much as I have borrowed small sums for paid interest on such sums and have made no charge against the State for the lost that inter est or given it to the 1 have taken no account of it Of profit or Do you say you have lost I say I have taken no account of it as profit Do you say you have lost it or given it to tho What did you say to the you wore making these several loans from the Bank or about them and of the necessity of making them I dont recollect of having to about loans on which I brought inno claims Tor interest What did you say to them at all I I told them about that time that I found it necessary to have means to carry on the work of tlie had used or p wards of my own money for that 4 months thereon but the money was sod in the school nearly a 4 months on On what rate did claim They awarded mo When was that I think it was a year ago last The account was presented nd allowed at a meeting of the on the last of nd as entered on the book under of May was said by you to the about loans from he bank payment of I dont recollect that I said riy Why did you not mention natter pf making the loans the 3mk for tho school to the board of that they might know all that ou were doing in reference to of the school 1 do not now remember what induced nic not to tho fact I supposed if I ad an urgent necessity for or to the demands of the I borrowed that money for a evr days and paid interest ihd made no mention of the ion or no charge that trustees nor any other person Did you make a habit of bor rowing money from Bank from for public use and ng tho interest out of own and it without men tho the if so low often and how long have you doing that I dont think I have indulged n habit to any groat extent I ah neither tell bow long or how often or I have been doing From did Hardin County and did you pay I have borrowed money from some of the employes of the school and have used it in the and paid interest thereon j no charge of interest to tho trustees oi the I thi rileI several from Patterson and Moir and cases of urgent whom and how much did you borrow from the employes in the school for public think I borrowed some money and perhaps some of Entrican and some of Rogers and I paid inter est thereon and have used the money in settling the accounts of the school and have not charged the State with the State was indebted to nic I cant tell tlie exact amount I borrowed from parties Cant you thing near tho whether it was of ever the sum may bo think to Fix the amount I cannot the Did you ever borrow any money of Miss Nancy Martin to usi for public use Does she hold your note fq amount of if how much and when was it given ey for itse aside the in County Bank how much did my note or for public use j It is i What was tho note given t i Money that you borrowed fron her A settled with her abou two weeks there was due her o salary She said she did no yant should keep it if I had any use for i I gave a note th calculation of that money public pui For what length of time w tho salary due to her before tho note how many and wa it paid to A Tins begun to ate or 14 months I state that I tled with her the 1 ut of told me ihc did riot that shoul it and me no in fortho it and charged the intend i interest of Shu seemed other employes in your note for their For length of time I think 5ari and the Misses have iny lotos IV For what length of time of ser the amount of the respec ivo notes and interest do they draw for Entrican holds my fur and the Misses Wright hold a lue for or The if Miles and draw 10 per Tho duo to the Wright was given in October ast and that is for 5 months service or one for the I bink the other given to Miles ind Entrican were not for but given n part for money borrowed of hat is I had handed them the money nd they handed it back to How of it was for bor nnd llow much Jor un salary 1 do not remember the exact approximate something ear Jt may be that half of loney or less was unpaid 3Oti had tho money of lie public fund at your disposal with to pay those salaries Not with which all other demands gainst he In payment of I have tried to pay lioso that were most How comes it that you s shown by tho statement of ao kept yourself and Mc paid up for 4 back salary while the other seem to be back with salaries for several months Tho reason that the of and McCarty entered pon the several settlements with he has done at the sequest of the ut at our last settlement forgot to make the entry the settlement was made and he page closed and in that case the in their settlement with me n the 28th of April hist inserted the Tho salaries of Superintend and Matron the past quarter ire not included in this Thou your salary for the 4 months unpaid would have been in in the settlement and paid if ou had not forgotten it sir it would have been for 3 months Theu if you had not forgotten would only 1 mouths salary due you on the 1st of Juno According to the Have the trustees requested ou at any time to claim or salary for settlement and payment or each and omitted the balance of of the They have instructed rne to enter my own claim but have given nq instructions in regard to the other Do any other employes hold your note or due for salary aside from those yor have named I do not recollect of any other notes or due bills having been given to the employes prior to my settle ment with the trustees on the 28th ol April last and which arc now they paid when the set was made in April I think Rogers held a note against mo at lime of settle ment on the 28th April When did you pay note to Rogers About 2 wooks Have you not been iii the habit of giving your note or duo to the employes o the institution for their salaries taking a receipt of pay ment for the same the money in your possession and set tling tho sumo with the board as tii i I have not boon in any such habit nor have I done it when there has boon money ou hand to meet all demands against the or where employes have really desired there have been mon ey enough on hand to have paid tht salary of yourself and wife for the last quarter if you had not to bring the claim before the boarc at its would have been enough to have paid our claims bu other claims would have gone un You find enough fron time to time to pay your salary an that of your wife up to the have between Februar and ha there been moans to pay our salaries in any other way than i by credit are given bn the each settle ment but there ha been balances duo in at tho end of each month during thu not these balances i your made ing your own wifes salai as paid and by giving your due bi to the for theirs I were no due given tb salaries du the Tst of and the 1st of BATES Hi I Om onn 1 1 iic Column one M Xo or pur fun mute I i 1bn61nt I i ft any in your sal t 11 charges fur payment ind I have own salary placed in voucher just as 1 other you come to it nuch or little in that ou may say bat this is com of my and hat certain other claims have been nid or that my wid and that certain other claims lave 1will or instance in case a balance appears in my regard these so far as the trustees f the school are under obligations to They have ed mo to make payments beyond where J have made pny beyond receipts I t own and without any anybody I done it to maintain of he institution and to best justice nd honor of the trustees to do what ras just in the How you pay of our own funds lie lial nce if for the month of I ut means of tho exact ain Do you know that 1 for that month of private on that 1 know that 1 had in use f the lit that time somc in tho vicinity of Did you pay any portion of jat on that balance of I my 3 the from to employed in I f for tho and it fas used for the month of ust as it was used for any other during this period of Will show the vliere you have used that of ur private funds for the month of larch 74 what it n I answer repeatedly it that 1 have in what proportion riVy in funds were mingled with ther You said you have paid s high as of your from 74 74 and sometimes for louth will you name any one month i which used thut amount of loney of your private funds In the month of January 74 here is a balance on tho books of that balance may he J put in and of occurs on the ust of February on the last of is a balance of it nay bo said that this balance went to or January and money re named in the until this was restored to me and of tho receipts from the State vero applied to paying of subsequent coount of the f dont ay that I fit any other or any ther specific I say there may inve been after this date additions of mall amounts from private funds hut wont to swell this first account o 1500 or or more Is this which you allude o as private funds which you have isod public use the same that you have already alluded to as hav ng a a man it I think it Have you used any other for public use aside from that of your own private funds I dont remember fhat 1 When did you put that into the public use did you re it back nit of the public funds jy a settlement write the trustees or in any other wny t 1 dont remember the exact month I collected the I ix the but it was sometime during the winter of 7o 1 got it and jut it into public and 1 think I it out in November that is the you have been alluding to all the ime as being in is that tho sum you were allowed inter est on That is the money on which I was allowed When you received the in the of November 74 by settlement with the trustees you re all that was due you of your private funds applied to public use did you not A In November 74 I thought that I to the ests of the institution withdraw tako it out of my common fund that I had and replaced it where the first was taken from and thero was still a balance due me in making up the final account for November 74 of Then you were paid back from the common or commingled fund the belonging to you as private and which you applied to pub lic use were you and this you received in the of November 1S74 the month of 74 I received of the private fv that I had employed us institution to the amount I At that time then v the sum of funds to your own ij did vou not I Do yr as baying ol
